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ethereal_reality Jul 10, 2019 8:06 PM

Here's an interesting RPPC (Real Photograph PostCard) that was recently listed on eBay.

"County Hospital - L.A. Cal"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/xt1sqL.jpg
eBay

I can't quite place this hospital. ....Is it the hospital that was located near the County Morgue? .....Are we looking at the back of it in this view? ....(inquiring minds want to know) ;)



I was surprised to find a cupola on the building in the middle. (with a flag on top)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/phWWeZ.jpg
DETAIL

hmmm...the cupola looks like a different architectural style than the front facade. (in my humble opinoin)

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ethereal_reality Jul 10, 2019 9:16 PM

I'm finding good things this afternoon. :)



Now...let's briefly return to Inglewood.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/8IGsYJ.jpg
eBay.........................................................................................................................The street situation seems rather odd.


Does anyone know where, in Inglewood, this Ford Dealership was located? ....

EDIT:
hmmm....on 2nd thought, maybe this is the Ford Factory. (the seller describes it as an auto garage)



The back of the postcard is undivided so...pre-1907.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/NXHdOq.jpg

"The postal service started allowing the use of divided back postcards in March of 1907.
If your postcard has an undivided back, it is from 1907 or earlier." from HERE



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HossC Jul 10, 2019 9:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8629008)

Here's an interesting RPPC (Real Photograph PostCard) that was recently listed on eBay.

"County Hospital - L.A. Cal"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/xt1sqL.jpg
eBay

I can't quite place this hospital. ....Is it the hospital that was located near the County Morgue? .....Are we looking at the back of it in this view? ....(inquiring minds want to know) ;)

I was surprised to find a cupola on the building in the middle. (with a flag on top)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/phWWeZ.jpg
DETAIL

hmmm...the cupola looks like a different architectural style than the front facade. (in my humble opinoin)

The building with the cupola is the extant Los Angeles County Department of Coroner at 1104 N Mission Road. The cupola appears to be intact (minus its flagpole). The larger building behind has gone.

ethereal_reality Jul 10, 2019 9:49 PM

RE: THE LARGE BUILDING

I think we're looking at the back of the old tuberculosis hospital, right?

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odinthor Jul 10, 2019 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8629008)
Here's an interesting RPPC (Real Photograph PostCard) that was recently listed on eBay.

"County Hospital - L.A. Cal"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/xt1sqL.jpg
eBay

[...]

e_r, the new Mexican Fan Palm trees along the street shown in the RPPC have survived, as have thankfully the two California Fan Palms on either side (widely) of the entrance to the building, also seen (with a bit of difficulty) on the RPPC. Perhaps even more remarkable, the fencing along the sidewalk appears to be either original or in the spirit of the original.

https://i.postimg.cc/VvQzJdcs/Coroner.jpg
GSV

Yay for arboreal preservation!

:cheers:

Martin Pal Jul 11, 2019 5:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8628905)
I'm not sure why Photobucket are watermarking my images since I pay them for hosting, but nothing they do surprises me any more!

As I've mentioned a couple times recently, some days photos are missing, the next day they're back. Some days they have watermarks on them and later on they don't. (Yours doesn't today.)

I really don't trust any photo hosting site, if I ever really did. Another forum I visit had a thread where the site masters would convert every photo posted on it to a photo hosting site so that "none of the photos would ever disappear." Around ten years ago that photo site (I believe it was called Taxine or something like that) just vanished offline one night and, obviously, all the photos that were hosted on it disappeared, too. If you had photos hosted on it you never had a warning to do anything about it.

And the reason that forum's site masters wanted to do this in the first place is that a prolific poster on that thread, who posted hundreds of photos, got disgruntled with some rule on that forum and just eliminated all his photos from it by putting them in a new folder on his hosting site.

So that phrase we keep hearing...once it's online it's always there...well not so much, eh?

Flyingwedge Jul 12, 2019 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8629097)
Now...let's briefly return to Inglewood.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/8IGsYJ.jpg
eBay.........................................................................................................................The street situation seems rather odd.

Does anyone know where, in Inglewood, this Ford Dealership was located? ....

The back of the postcard is undivided so...pre-1907.

The Ford dealership was located on the currently long-vacant SW corner of N. Market Street and E. Florence Avenue
(formerly Redondo Boulevard). So, in the photo above, the arched windows to the left of the building's corner cupola
are on Market St. I believe the photographer was standing on the north side of Florence/Redondo, which runs to the
right of the corner cupola, past the open court entrance:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psuqctdoxd.jpg

November 1923 Inglewood Sanborn Map @ ProQuest via LA Public Library



Here is a wider view of the area, with the dealership site marked by a red dot. In the old photo, the rails at left by
the bench belong to the LA Railway, whose right-of-way was on the south side of Florence/Redondo; the line then
went south on Market. Today, Grace Avenue no longer runs between Locust and Market:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psmq4wxlzn.jpg

November 1923 Inglewood Sanborn Map @ ProQuest via LA Public Library



The ebay seller may have the wrong postcard rear associated with this photo, because the dealership wasn't built until 1920:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...ps5s3bxlzf.jpg

June 20, 1920, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LA Public Library



The dealership owner, Robert P. Fite, was a thrice-wounded hero of the Great War. Henry Ford helped with his recovery:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psaurwcmae.jpg

August 15, 1920, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LA Public Library



This is a closer view of the dealership. The photo caption says, "On his return from France, as a token of gratitude for
past services, the Ford company awarded him [Fite] the Inglewood Territory, before territorial lines were eliminated."

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...ps5iirxlsk.jpg

February 1, 1921, Motor West @ Googlebooks



This photo of Robert Fite sitting in a 1919 Ford was taken inside the dealership's court and looks out its entrance. The
"INGLEWOOD WELCOME/COME AGAIN" sign at the top of the ebay photo appears to be in the distance behind Fite's
head in this image:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...pslb7sblnj.jpg

August 1, 1921, Motor West @ Hathitrust

ethereal_reality Jul 12, 2019 2:05 PM

:previous: A wealth of information! Excellent sleuthing FW.












https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/xt1sqL.jpg


Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8629233)
e_r, the new Mexican Fan Palm trees along the street shown in the RPPC have survived, as have thankfully the two California Fan Palms on either side (widely) of the entrance to the building, also seen (with a bit of difficulty) on the RPPC. Perhaps even more remarkable, the fencing along the sidewalk appears to be either original or in the spirit of the original.

https://i.postimg.cc/VvQzJdcs/Coroner.jpg
GSV

Yay for arboreal preservation!

:cheers:

That's great odinthor.


Did you happen to notice this.

....................................................There is one on the right side of the photograph as well.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/CheaLc.jpg



It reminds me of something horrific that I've seen in the past.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/V9O0ui.jpg

ethereal_reality Jul 12, 2019 2:11 PM

I made a boo boo.

Check back. I'll post something soon.




Okay. I found something.

Los Angeles

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/G4vBPi.jpg
eBay

The two lads remind me of CBD and his older brother. :)




A closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/WE6vVM.jpg

Bay Cities Laundry - 2334 Washington Blvd. - Los Angeles

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ethereal_reality Jul 12, 2019 3:33 PM

There is an interesting article on the 17 year old sleuth, Dean Gordon, who unlocked the mystery of the peristyle mural at the Coliseum in today's Los Angeles Times.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/kl1ojr.jpg

Click here - - - > Los Angeles Times



The mural artist and son.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/RvmK5B.jpg
Los Angeles Times

Noir_Noir Jul 12, 2019 3:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8630616)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/G4vBPi.jpg
eBay


Bay Cities Laundry - 2334 Washington Blvd. - Los Angeles

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Bay Cities Laundry at 2334 Washington Blvd. in 1936 and 1940.


https://i.imgur.com/6UFGXEs.jpg
santamonica.pastperfectonline.com

https://i.imgur.com/mdhulXL.jpg
santamonica.pastperfectonline.com




The ivy is gone but the building, now Bay City Lofts, is at 2100 Abbot Kinney Blvd.


https://i.imgur.com/RyDYpDN.jpg
Google Maps - GSV

BillinGlendaleCA Jul 12, 2019 6:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinTurnbull (Post 8628403)
After collecting and researching photos of the Garden of Allah Hotel for over 10 years I'd have thought I would have already seen every photo of the joint out there. But along comes this one. It's odd that there are no cars and no people in sight - where the hell was everybody??? - so it's hard to date it. All I have to go on is the tree out front of the main building. In earlier photos it's not very big but in this one it obscures most of the building so I'm going to guess late 1940s. If anybody can narrow it down for me, I'd love to hear from you.

https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...irca-1940s.jpg

There are a couple of ways to get photos without people or cars: one is to take multiple photos and combine them together(though this would have been much more difficult pre-Photoshop), the other is to take a really long exposure(usually with a neutral density filter) so the moving objects just blur out to be non-noticeable.

Martin Pal Jul 12, 2019 8:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8630694)
There is an interesting article on the 17 year old sleuth, Dean Gordon, who unlocked the mystery of the peristyle mural at the Coliseum in today's Los Angeles Times.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/kl1ojr.jpg

Click here - - - > Los Angeles Times
______________________________________________________________


Thanks for that story link, E_R.

In the article it notes this:

Years before, during a broadcast of a Trojans football game, the camera had panned under the Coliseum’s archway and focused on the mural. Watching from his home in upstate New York, Rosien’s husband, Igor, was flooded with emotion.

My first image of this mural, in person, was at the closing ceremonies of the 1984 Olympics when the official Olympic Flag was lowered from the pole inside the stadium and the flag was carried out through the arch with a chorus singing the Olympic Hymn accompanied by the assembled orchestra. On the monitors you could also see a camera shot from underneath the flag and after the flag passed over it--there was this mural complete with the most dramatic lighting showing it off. It was breathtaking. I still recall from watching the taped program later on the famous sportscaster, Jim McKay, proclaiming, "What a glorious sight."
_________________

The above was from my memory...and I just found what I was describing on youtube. Watching what I described you might not call it breathtaking or glorious, but it was. You don't see the mural in all it's detail and VHS technology of the day wasn't as clear or as large as images are now, but you can take my word for it. This whole evening was one of the Top Ten things I've ever experienced in my life.

The part I described is from 1:51:30 - 1:54:00.

Video Link



[If you keep watching you'll see a spaceship flying over the Coliseum! :)

FredH Jul 12, 2019 9:13 PM

Re: Garden of Allah photo

Another "trick" to avoid traffic is to go out early on a Sunday and hope you get lucky.

I believe that is how they got this opening shot for Breakfast At Tiffany's in New York City.

https://i.postimg.cc/7LpV2nC8/Capture1.png
Breakfast At Tiffany's, Paramount Pictures, 1961


Hey1 Is this a car I see hiding in the weeds, or am I imagining things again?.

https://i.postimg.cc/XvZLqzYk/Capture.png

MichaelRyerson Jul 13, 2019 5:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8628905)
:previous:

This store at 5820 S Vermont was built in 1927, with building permits in February and March. They both say that the building was set back to allow for widening of Slauson. A neon sign was added in 1955. I couldn't see a demo permit, but the building was torn down sometime in the 1970s, and replaced by smaller stores in 1981.

Here's another construction photo I found.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...onVermont1.jpg
LAPL

I'm not sure why Photobucket are watermarking my images since I pay them for hosting, but nothing they do surprises me any more!

I'm not seeing the watermark, Hoss.

HossC Jul 13, 2019 5:26 PM

:previous:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 8631560)

I'm not seeing the watermark, Hoss.

Due to some glitch or other, my photos and those of at least one other paying Photobucket customer on NLA appeared with ugly watermarks across them for about 24 hours earlier this week. Luckily, the problem seems to have been resolved, and our photos are watermark-free once again!

MichaelRyerson Jul 13, 2019 5:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 8625507)
The big four-story building with the many domes and skylights near the lower right corner of the 1899 photo, the Phillips Block,
burned down in late 1912, and the rest of the foreground of the photo is now mostly Spring Street and City Hall so we must look
closely to find extant structures.

At least one other remaining building is identifiable in the 1899 photo, 242-48 E. 1st Street:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psvdjqpjyq.jpg

Previously posted by Scott Charles

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Looking southeast, with the camera atop the County Courthouse (a favorite among the large-format photographers of the day). The buildings in the extreme lower-right corner are facing New High Street. We can see (left-center middle distance) a little section of San Pedro Street (later Wilmington then Weller and finally Astronaut Ellison S. Onizuka Street) pointing almost directly at the camera. This section of San Pedro/Weller/Onizuka is only one block long running from 2nd Street (and San Pedro) to 1st and Los Angeles Streets (nearer the camera). This is one very good and consistent reference point telling us we're on the County Courthouse. Nearer the camera (left near foreground) we can see the infamous Vienna Buffet, on Court Street between Spring and Main Streets, just poking out around the corner of the J.A. Bullard Building (5 stories with the domed turreted corner). St. Vibiana's Cathedral can be seen (center-right, middle distance) at Main and 2nd Streets and the Orpheum Grand Opera House at Main and 1st. To the right of St. Vibiana's you can see the unique round structure of the Panorama Skating Rink at 320 S. Main Street although the rink itself set well back from the street and was accessed through a long covered walkway. An altogether nice shot.

Detroit Publishing Company glass negative.

MichaelRyerson Jul 13, 2019 5:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8631570)
:previous:



Due to some glitch or other, my photos and those of at least one other paying Photobucket customer on NLA appeared with ugly watermarks across them for about 24 hours earlier this week. Luckily, the problem seems to have been resolved, and our photos are watermark-free once again!

Wow. Thanks. I thought I was going blind.

Martin Pal Jul 13, 2019 7:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8631570)
Due to some glitch or other, my photos and those of at least one other paying Photobucket customer on NLA appeared with ugly watermarks across them for about 24 hours earlier this week. Luckily, the problem seems to have been resolved, and our photos are watermark-free once again!
___________________________________________________________________

I don't think it's a glitch or a problem. I think Photobucket does it on purpose off and on whether you're a paying customer or not.

Slauson Slim Jul 13, 2019 10:40 PM

The Slauson Vermont Sears store was looted and torched in the 1965 Watts Riots. I saw the looting there and other places from the family car as my father drove West on Slauson to get us out of the riot area.


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