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JimCraig May 16, 2019 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 8573179)
Happy May 14th, Los Angeles Noirishers! (Or is it Norishians? Noirites?)

On May 14th, 1874, notorious bandido Tiburcio Vasquez was captured at the adobe home of "Greek George" Caralambo, near where Melrose Place in West Hollywood is now situated.

https://i.postimg.cc/KcWbK8K0/vasquez.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ez_Capture.jpg
[source: wikimedia]

Vasquez Rocks Park, one of Hollywood's favorite locations for outdoor filming over several decades, is so named because Tiburcio Vasquez often used the area to avoid capture by law enforcement.

On May 14, 1904, Sunset Boulevard opened.

https://i.postimg.cc/2yxrL4gM/glenda...unset-1904.jpg
[source: USC Digital Library]

The Los Angeles Herald enthused:
“Los Angeles and Hollywood united yesterday in celebration of the opening of Sunset boulevard and its adjacent systems. The splendid highway was inspected by nearly 2,000 Los Angeles people, who proceeded to Hollywood in vehicles of every sort, ranging in design from a high-geared automobile to a goat cart."
On May 14, 1935, Griffith Observatory was formally opened with a ceremony for 500 invited guests.

https://i.postimg.cc/wxs7wZdT/Griffith.jpg
[source: UCLA digital library]


There's a nifty little history of the observatory here.

Did I miss any May 14th events related to Los Angeles?

Handsome Stranger - You touched on something very interesting. What would we call a group of us Noirishers? What is the collective noun we would use to describe a bunch of us together? We all know these:

A gaggle of geese
A flock of birds
An army of ants
A swarm of bees
A flight of butterflies
A pod of whales
A school of fish
A herd of elephants
A pride of lions
A parliament of owls

A black hole of Noirishers?

I'm sure with the collective intelligence and creativity of this august group we can come up with a good collective noun. How about it?

ethereal_reality May 16, 2019 2:53 AM

:previous: "A parliament of owls." ...I've never heard that one!...That's really cool/

I don't want to be a black hole. :(







mystery location.


'Santa Monica Store Interior “Palace of Fun” RPPC Ocean Park—Los Angeles Photo." ....Home of "Jake's Tin Dollar."


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/vghYKg.jpg
Ebay

Do you suppose this little store was located on one of the tourist piers?

ASKING:....$179.99.




REVERSE
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/Jmzm1K.jpg


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Lomara May 16, 2019 6:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimCraig (Post 8574719)
Handsome Stranger - You touched on something very interesting. What would we call a group of us Noirishers? What is the collective noun we would use to describe a bunch of us together? We all know these:

A gaggle of geese
A flock of birds
An army of ants
A swarm of bees
A flight of butterflies
A pod of whales
A school of fish
A herd of elephants
A pride of lions
A parliament of owls

A black hole of Noirishers?

I'm sure with the collective intelligence and creativity of this august group we can come up with a good collective noun. How about it?

I am surprised you missed "A murder of crows", which is pretty Noir-ish if you ask me.

Handsome Stranger May 16, 2019 7:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimCraig (Post 8574719)
What would we call a group of us Noirishers? What is the collective noun we would use to describe a bunch of us together?

A Chandler of Noirishers.

https://i.postimg.cc/bvMjgT2t/9781598533194.jpg

Earl Boebert May 16, 2019 2:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimCraig (Post 8574719)
Handsome Stranger - You touched on something very interesting. What would we call a group of us Noirishers? What is the collective noun we would use to describe a bunch of us together? We all know these:

A gaggle of geese
A flock of birds
An army of ants
A swarm of bees
A flight of butterflies
A pod of whales
A school of fish
A herd of elephants
A pride of lions
A parliament of owls

A black hole of Noirishers?

I'm sure with the collective intelligence and creativity of this august group we can come up with a good collective noun. How about it?

I suggest "A Hammett of Noirishers"

Cheers,

Earl

Andys May 16, 2019 3:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 8573179)
Happy May 14th, Los Angeles Noirishers! (Or is it Norishians? Noirites?)

On May 14th, 1874, notorious bandido Tiburcio Vasquez was captured at the adobe home of "Greek George" Caralambo, near where Melrose Place in West Hollywood is now situated.

https://i.postimg.cc/KcWbK8K0/vasquez.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ez_Capture.jpg
[source: wikimedia]

Vasquez Rocks Park, one of Hollywood's favorite locations for outdoor filming over several decades, is so named because Tiburcio Vasquez often used the area to avoid capture by law enforcement.

Did I miss any May 14th events related to Los Angeles?

Here's some more information on Vasquez, who some viewed as a sort of a Robin Hood:
https://scvhistory.com/scvhistory/vasquez-thrall.htm

What the heck, here's the whole index with some colorful stories such as local ranchers who hid there daughters from him:
https://scvhistory.com/scvhistory/go...yuez&sa=Search

Andys

ethereal_reality May 16, 2019 3:20 PM

Tunnel Construction
 
Here is another snapshot from the "Claire & Clio" photograph group. [1918 - 1920]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/6fmpUV.jpg
Ebay

hmmm.....that might be Clio sitting on a rock to the left of the excavating thingy (steam shovel?).

Unless I am seeing things...there appears to be a man straddling the hood of his car on the far right of the photograph. > > >

Scott Charles, is it possible to get rid of that glare?...(or if anyone else wants to give it a try that's good too)

I hope Beaudry bids for the photographs. ;)

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Beaudry May 16, 2019 8:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8575209)
Here is another snapshot from the "Claire & Clio" photograph group. [1918 - 1920]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/6fmpUV.jpg
Ebay

hmmm.....that might be Clio sitting on a rock to the left of the excavating thingy (steam shovel?).

Unless I am seeing things...there appears to be a man straddling the hood of his car on the far right of the photograph. > > >

Scott Charles, is it possible to get rid of that glare?...(or if anyone else wants to give it a try that's good too)

I hope Beaudry bids for the photographs. ;)

.

How did you know?! I have an esnipe bid in—I love all the pix of course but this one (which is a little later than 1918-20, probably about 1922, judging by the progress on the tunnel) especially moved me to bid on the lot. Of course I'll scan and share with the group so as to answer all the mysterious questions about Clio, hood-straddling, etc. I won the recently-discussed shots of Fourth and Olive, btw! And for peanuts! (Though there were a gaggle of nice neony LA slides I was recently outbid on, alas.)

I also purchased that $29 1949 Broadway tunnel negative. I have a lot to say on the subject of reproducing eBay images here, on cleaning them up, how sellers and collectors might feel...but that will have to wait for another time. I need to run and get my hair cut and pack—Avalon Ball weekend begins tomorrow!

HossC May 16, 2019 9:18 PM

:previous:

Looks like the Stanley on top of the Second Street tunnel. My full 2015 post can be found here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7039822)

And now, the Stanley from the Clift Hotel. The Dome Apartments are on the left, and the Stoll Apartments are on the right. This is the west end of the 2nd Street tunnel.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
getty.edu
"Fremont Ave., Figueroa St., 1955 September 16" > "BH2-14 (negative 17)"


ethereal_reality May 16, 2019 9:25 PM

:previous: Good eye Hoss. I believe you're right.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 8575617)
How did you know?! I have an esnipe bid in—I love all the pix.

That's such great news, Beaudry. I hope you win the bid!




I just noticed that there's a second snapshot of the house being moved!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/3EnHiK.jpg
Ebay

I think this is the same house, minus the bric a brac.

HERE is the photograph I posted yesterday of the house jacked up.




DETAIL OF PIC ABOVE.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/catTTG.jpg

;)




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Beaudry May 16, 2019 9:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8575654)
:previous:

Looks like the Stanley on top of the Second Street tunnel. My full 2015 post can be found here.

Oh yeah, definitely the Stanley, née the La Nel (E J Borgmeyer, 1913). Here's another pic like the one eBay, from 1921

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9c21bdf3_b.jpgucla

More West End of the Second Street Tunnel Porn here

FredH May 16, 2019 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8575660)
:previous: Good eye Hoss. I believe you're right.



That's such great news, Beaudry. I hope you win the bid!




I just noticed that there's a second snapshot of the house being moved!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/3EnHiK.jpg
Ebay

I think this is the same house, minus the bric a brac.

HERE is the photograph I posted yesterday of the house jacked up.



Detail of the pic above.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/9kfnob.jpg
TEE HEE

I was just kidding around, but now I think it is Claire & Clio.


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I don't think it is the same house in both pics E.R., there is a couple year gap in the photo dates.

https://i.postimg.cc/3xNbxxC6/Capture3.png

https://i.postimg.cc/MpL3MJ9G/Capture4.png



By the way, is it my imagination or did these girls really age between 1918 and 1919?

https://i.postimg.cc/JhB6jYF5/Capture5.png







These two girls showed up in more places than Kilroy did during WW2

https://i.postimg.cc/1RGySJJT/1qxyefsrpm901.jpg
reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/7pw89i/job_is_done_kilroy_was_here_decal_get/

GaylordWilshire May 17, 2019 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 8575716)


By the way, is it my imagination or did these girls really age between 1918 and 1919?

https://i.postimg.cc/JhB6jYF5/Capture5.png


Claire & Clio, grown up and time-traveling back to the First Methodist Episcopal Church (@ Hill and 6th)...

https://i.postimg.cc/vBFJQb7P/church4nla-bmp.jpg
USCDL



Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8575660)
I just noticed that there's a second snapshot of the house being moved!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/3EnHiK.jpg
Ebay


The big white building at left is the Wellington, which we've seen on NLA before:


https://i.postimg.cc/cJzWLX8H/Wellington1.jpg
From this 2014 post by HossC

Noir_Noir May 17, 2019 4:11 PM

:previous:


It's nice to put names to familiar though blurry faces. :) I think this is Claire and Clio - the Heller sisters.

Here in their early twenties living with mum and dad, Charles and Cecelia, at 741 W. 11th Street in 1930. They were living there when the pictures were taken.


https://i.imgur.com/pggcuAu.jpg
rescarta.lapl.org


Dad Charles maybe had a thing about moving buildings. He had one moved himself in 1923.


https://i.imgur.com/kuN9gPO.jpg
http://ladbsdoc.lacity.org

ethereal_reality May 17, 2019 9:08 PM

Wow! That's some mighty impressive sleuthing, Noir Noir.
I'm not sure how you did it, though. How'd you figure out their last name was Heller? (you don't have to answer my question if it's a trade secret) :)



I am sure -at this point- some of you are experiencing Claire & Clio fatigue. . .

...but there have been additional sightings.

#1
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/8rDNsb.jpg
Ebay

Do you see her?




Let's take a closer look.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/fM6gHo.jpg

If you look closely, the word Clio & an arrow appear in the rocky terrain.

Now it's getting downright spooky. :runaway:




In this 2nd pic, her mom (or her father) had Clio back up even farther! (not taken on the same day / the excavation has progressed)

#2
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/I7HmbN.jpg

She's barely perceptible. Ha Ha



REVERSE
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/mUO77C.jpg
"Clio in the distance"


I don't know about you, but I don't believe I'd send my little girl down into a giant excavation pit.

When I first saw the photographs I wondered if her father worked for the excavation company. (Noir Noir's research says Clio's father was a dentist)

Claire is missing in action.


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ethereal_reality May 17, 2019 10:51 PM

...........................................................................................................................................How about some Kodachrome slides.

..................................................................................................20 Rare Kodachrome Slides RUSSELL BROS CIRCUS Downtown Los Angeles 1947 + Ticket

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/dtcv7n.jpg




...................1947, LOS ANGELES.........................................

#1
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/p1aYDM.jpg

I'm almost certain the large white building in the background is the Mode O Day building.






.......................................................................................................................................THE BIG TOP!
#2
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/mNCCwf.jpg







Does anyone know what these two red wagons/railcars(?) are for? One appears to be attached to overhead wires.

#3
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/YDgtAb.jpg







#4
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/RNB4tA.jpg







#5
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/gYb5j5.jpg

.........................................................................................................................:previous: Cute little boy meets a clown.










#6
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/YLp5Fb.jpg

Clowns are creepy.








#7.............................................................................................................#8
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/D7JKKa.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/lU804s.jpg







#9..............................................................................................................#10
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/H52ZxZ.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/QjBxpz.jpg









I decided this one should be seen larger. :)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/EUu3Jf.jpg

It is the only slide where you can see the MODE O DAY sign.






https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/z2HR2u.jpg


The slides are being sold as a group on Ebay




p.s. My numbers are kind of wacky.

Flyingwedge May 18, 2019 3:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8575660)


These "Claire and Clio" photos are very interesting, e_r. Thanks for finding them!


Since this photo looks west from Figueroa and Orange (now Wilshire) on January 23, 1920, I wonder if the house being moved
is the old Samuel Foy home, on its way from 651 S. Figueroa to 625 Witmer? The permit to move the Foy house (in two sections)
is dated eight days before the photo was taken.



Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7236483)
Speaking of the Foy House, both Big Orange Landmarks and Nathan Masters say it was moved from 651 S Figueroa to Wilshire Blvd, then to Witmer Street and on to Carroll Ave, but that's not reflected in the permit:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V...4%252520PM.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-C...0%252520PM.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7...2%252520PM.jpg
ladbs

1919, the year before the move:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-l...8%252520AM.jpg
bigorangelandmarks

625 Witmer St, after 1960:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-F...3%252520PM.jpg
uscdl
:previous:
I well remember the Foy residence on Witmer. I used to drive by it often. In later years it was painted a not-unattractive, pale aqua/mint green color with white trim.

1337 Carroll Avenue. The home was moved overnight on Dec 8/9 1992, according to LAT reporting at the time (although wiki pegs it at 1993):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6...6%252520PM.jpg
bigorangelandmarks

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odinthor May 18, 2019 5:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 8574596)

I'm pretty sure we're looking east. That bag company building beyond the Brew 102 complex, I think I recall seeing it back in the old days when I would be departing east (homewards) from downtown on the Santa Ana Freeway. It could be that NLA has had a view like this long ago (I still consider myself a newbie). Someday some lunatic incredibly talented person who has a lot of time will make an index to NLA which would assist with this sort of situation!

Isn't the Brew 102 area where the old Aliso tree that pre-dated the founding of L.A. was located?

BillinGlendaleCA May 18, 2019 7:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 8577235)
These "Claire and Clio" photos are very interesting, e_r. Thanks for finding them!


Since this photo looks west from Figueroa and Orange (now Wilshire) on January 23, 1920, I wonder if the house being moved
is the old Samuel Foy home, on its way from 651 S. Figueroa to 625 Witmer? The permit to move the Foy house (in two sections)
is dated eight days before the photo was taken.

Here's a more recent view of the Foy house on Carroll.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a5813d13_b.jpg_7220007.jpg by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

BillinGlendaleCA May 18, 2019 7:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8577274)
I'm pretty sure we're looking east. That bag company building beyond the Brew 102 complex, I think I recall seeing it back in the old days when I would be departing east (homewards) from downtown on the Santa Ana Freeway. It could be that NLA has had a view like this long ago (I still consider myself a newbie). Someday some lunatic incredibly talented person who has a lot of time will make an index to NLA which would assist with this sort of situation!

Isn't the Brew 102 area where the old Aliso tree that pre-dated the founding of L.A. was located?

That's looking east and the Aliso tree was at the Brew 102 brewery. They recently installed a marker commemorating it's location: https://homesteadmuseum.wordpress.co...e-los-angeles/.


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