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ethereal_reality Dec 1, 2018 12:41 AM

Here's a photograph that shows Temple's two story adobe and the first city hall building. (cupola in background)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/JJlOxh.jpg
waterandpower

"Looking south toward Temple Street from some point on the Main Street side of the buildings." [1872] waterandpower


hmmm....what do you think "some point" is?..........the roof of the Downey Block?
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ethereal_reality Dec 1, 2018 1:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nealberke (Post 8394974)
Is it possible that this building was retrofitted for hot water heating and that this picture was taken closer to the 1890's? Edwin Ruud developed the automatic hot water heater in 1889
according to this Wikipedia article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_heating. By the way, flues #1 and 4 originate from the first floor and go to the roof.

nealburke, thanks or pointing out that flue #1 and #4 originate from the first flooor. I hadn't noticed that.

"Is it possible that this building was retrofitted for hot water heating and that this picture was taken closer to the 1890's? "

The photograph is dated 1858. I realize dates can be wrong..but forty years is a pretty big gap. (also.....would hot water heat require multiple flues?) The house I grew up in has hot water heat.

ethereal_reality Dec 1, 2018 1:51 AM

reposted by GAYLORDWILSHIRE
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/FMN8L9.jpg
ER: From your post of June 18, 2015

He's a bit too beefy for me GW.

I like'm mean and lean. :whip: and long and lanky.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8394148)
Looks good even in clothes (He's at right)

https://i.postimg.cc/k4YPLD0y/pederson3men.jpg

The middle guy is missing his eyeballs.




https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/SFvomH.jpg
see original 'arrest' post HERE.

Charles Putman (the blonde dude) lived two doors down from Frederick's of Hollywood at the time of his arrest in 1947.
The Capt. said that address [6624 Hollywood Blvd.] was a bowling alley at the time. He's no doubt implying that Putman is lying.


Today, 6624 Hollywood Blvd. is a one-story modern building (at least I think it's modern)
....OR could this building be the old bowling alley building?

Check it out HERE (Mike's Pipe Shop)

p.s. I need help in finding a photograph of this block from the 1940/50s. I want to see this elusive 'bowling alley' for myself


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BillinGlendaleCA Dec 1, 2018 4:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8395803)
Today, 6624 Hollywood Blvd. is a one-story modern building (at least I think it's modern)
....OR could this building be the old bowling alley building?

Check it out HERE (Mike's Pipe Shop)

p.s. I need help in finding a photograph of this block from the 1940/50s. I want to see this elusive 'bowling alley' for myself


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The one story building isn't 6624 Hollywood, it's 6620 Hollywood. The building at 6622-24 is two stories and was built in 1917. Mike's Smoke Shop used to be at 6622 but moved to the next building, at least that's what appears to have happened.

Good News! The 6622-24 building is for sale! Only $5.5 million, it's a steal.

odinthor Dec 1, 2018 5:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8395918)
The one story building isn't 6624 Hollywood, it's 6620 Hollywood. The building at 6622-24 is two stories and was built in 1917. Mike's Smoke Shop used to be at 6622 but moved to the next building, at least that's what appears to have happened.

Good News! The 6622-24 building is for sale! Only $5.5 million, it's a steal.

Hmmm. Pretty good location. [gets out check book] Does it have everything we need for the NLA clubhouse? :???:

Flyingwedge Dec 1, 2018 7:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8394958)

FW, was there ever a beacon on the top of Baldwin Hills?

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Actually, yes, there used to be a beacon atop the Baldwin Hills. But it wasn't an aircraft beacon. Instead it was beacon of Yuletide
warmth and good cheer.

Near the NW corner of the five-point intersection of La Brea, Stocker, and Overhill, one of the old oil derricks had strings of red lights
that ran from the top platform to the ground, all the way around the derrick. There was also a star with white lights on the very top of
the derrick. The star may have rotated, but I don't remember for sure.

The article below describes the beginnings of what is now Kenneth Hahn State Recreation Area. On the famous oil derrick I've
approximated one of the strings of red lights and also the star (which, again, had white lights). The article implies that the lights
were left up all year but turned on only during the Holiday Season:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psanqyppsr.jpg


http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psrs1rv8rp.jpg

April 25, 1976, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LAPL


I don't know when the lights were first installed, but I remember seeing this oil derrick lit up in the mid-to-late 1960s. The lights
and the derrick lasted until the mid-to-late 1980s, if I remember correctly. Do other NLAers recall this seasonal light display?


This c. 1952 photo looks north from the west side of Overhill Drive at the five-point intersection of Overhill, La Brea, and Stocker.
I may have arrowed the decorated derrick, or it may have been out of the photo on the left side:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...ps0hyf09d6.jpg

257391 @ HDL -- Doug White photo



Of the structures below that appear to be oil derricks, I believe I've squared the one with the lights and star, which may not
have been installed at the time of the photo:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2dl6rp0r.jpg

November 26, 1965, Flight C_25019, Frame 410 at UCSB


A utility pole at or near the site of the old derrick now has strings of multi-colored lights, but looking at various GSV images,
I don't think the lights are left up all year. I'm not sure when this new tradition began, but I believe the lights are in the oil
field, not in the park:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psptzszwhw.jpg

December 2017 GSV



http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psraat7osj.jpg

FW photo taken earlier today at KHSRA

ethereal_reality Dec 2, 2018 12:30 AM

:previous: "photo taken earlier today." Feet on the ground. :) Thanks for snapping the photo for us FW.

I didn't know about the oil well with the star on top and lights (or the current structure)

Where I live [West Lafayette IN] they decorate the dome of the Lafayette Court House in a similar manner. HERE

nealberke Dec 2, 2018 4:59 AM

The only other thing I think those flues could be for is a wood or coal burning stove or furnace. Maybe more likely than hot water?

Looking at the other things in the photo, I can't tell from the clothes or the wagon if the date was closer to 1890 or earlier.

A wood or coal burning appliance of some sort would make sense as a retrofit for a boarding house. Maybe this was not a "bawdy" house or bordello but a boarding house? Someone may have just heard wrong?

nealberke Dec 2, 2018 5:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8395765)
nealburke, thanks or pointing out that flue #1 and #4 originate from the first flooor. I hadn't noticed that.

"Is it possible that this building was retrofitted for hot water heating and that this picture was taken closer to the 1890's? "

The photograph is dated 1858. I realize dates can be wrong..but forty years is a pretty big gap. (also.....would hot water heat require multiple flues?) The house I grew up in has hot water heat.

The only other thing I think those flues could be for is a wood or coal burning stove or furnace. Maybe more likely than hot water?

Looking at the other things in the photo, I can't tell from the clothes or the wagon if the date was closer to 1890 or earlier.

A wood or coal burning appliance of some sort would make sense as a retrofit for a boarding house. Maybe this was not a "bawdy" house or bordello but a boarding house? Someone may have just heard wrong?

ethereal_reality Dec 2, 2018 6:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nealberke (Post 8396542)
The only other thing I think those flues could be for is a wood or coal burning stove or furnace.

I think this flues are for wood burning stoves.


I couldn't find any mention of the additional flues being installed in Temple's building, but here's an ad for stoves from around the same time period. LOS ANGELES STAR, Nov. 8, 1862

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/p8TcVC.jpg
LOS ANGELES STAR, Nov. 8, 1862


While skimming through the old L.A. Stars I happened upon this article about a flue made out of wood catching fire at Independence Hall.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/1LCETy.jpg
...........................................................................................................................:previous: oops, not 1989.

It was 1856 I believe.

ethereal_reality Dec 2, 2018 7:26 PM

Mystery of the 'miniature church'.

Can anyone tell me what this little structure is that's sitting in the sand? The rounded tower makes it look like a tiny Russian Orthodox Church.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/e3KK0F.jpg
DETAIL








It appears in a photograph of Long Beach that we've no doubt seen before.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/P8BY3S.jpg
Old file

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Earl Boebert Dec 2, 2018 9:30 PM

^^^

Looks like a camera obscura to me.

Cheers,

Earl

Tikiman Dec 2, 2018 9:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8396811)
Mystery of the 'miniature church'.

Can anyone tell me what this little structure is that's sitting in the sand? The rounded tower makes it look like a tiny Russian Orthodox Church.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/e3KK0F.jpg








It appears in a photograph of Long Beach that we've no doubt seen before.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/P8BY3S.jpg
Old file

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This reminds me of a stable and feed silo. Pony rides along the beach maybe?

CityBoyDoug Dec 3, 2018 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8396811)
Mystery of the 'miniature church'.

Can anyone tell me what this little structure is that's sitting in the sand? The rounded tower makes it look like a tiny Russian Orthodox Church.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/e3KK0F.jpg
[SIZE="1"]DETAIL[/SIZE






It appears in a photograph of Long Beach that we've no doubt seen before.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/P8BY3S.jpg
Old file

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that's a lifeguard station. They lasted for many years and were still there in the 1950s

ethereal_reality Dec 3, 2018 4:16 AM

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/tuIsSG.jpg

:previous: Didn't early lifeguards sometimes take rope out with them? Maybe there's a spool of rope in the round part.

It could also be a look-out for the lifeguards (but they weren't gaining much...it's no taller than a normal person) ha ha
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I like the thought of little ponies on the beach Tikiman, :banaride: Yee Ha!
.........and a camera obscure is a pretty good idea too Earl.

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ethereal_reality Dec 3, 2018 6:20 AM

...and speaking of diminuative buildings

Can anyone tell me what this is?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/C88PT0.jpg

It's located on the northwest corner of Opp St. and Eubanks Ave. in Wilmington.

(the stone structure is surrounded by an extraordinarily tall fence. (taller than what's usually found on private property anyway)





The view from Eubanks Ave.

from this side it looks like it could be an incinerator......or an oversized backyard BB-Q)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/clfatu.jpg

You can check it out for yourself HERE (or the link under the first photo)

ProphetM Dec 3, 2018 7:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8397300)
...and speaking of diminuative buildings

Can anyone tell me what this is?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/C88PT0.jpg

It's located on the northwest corner of Opp St. and Eubanks Ave. in Wilmington.

(the stone structure is surrounded by an extraordinarily tall fence. (taller than what's usually found on private property anyway)





The view from Eubanks Ave.

from this side it looks like it could be an incinerator......or an oversized backyard BB-Q)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/clfatu.jpg

You can check it out for yourself HERE (or the link under the first photo)

Provided that you zoom to the appropriate level, Google Maps has it marked as a powder magazine. This revelation led me to the nearby Drum Barracks Civil War Museum and Drum Barracks Park. (Named after someone named Drum, not a barracks for drummers.) The area was a 60 acre military post named Camp Drum. It was the Union Army's headquarters for southern California and Arizona during the Civil War. The museum is owned by the state and leased to the City of Los Angeles to run it. I did find mention of the powder magazine on the museum's web site on the Model Room page, but it was not stated who owns that property, or if the museum controls it.

http://www.drumbarracks.org

AlvaroLegido Dec 3, 2018 6:46 PM

Ambassador at the Beach
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8396811)

The double building on the left (there were posts on it) is in the style of the Ambassador Hotel. Not only impressive but beautiful... with a touch of the Japanese fashion of the 1910s. CityBoyDoug and odinthor - our 2 long beachers - do you have memories ?

odinthor Dec 3, 2018 7:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido (Post 8397691)
The double building on the left (there were posts on it) is in the style of the Ambassador Hotel. Not only impressive but beautiful... with a touch of the Japanese fashion of the 1910s. CityBoyDoug and odinthor - our 2 long beachers - do you have memories ?

Sadly, AL, the Virginia Hotel was long gone by the time my eyes came into the world. Closed in 1932, razed in 1933. Originally, as I understand, it was to have a circular ballroom at the top; but a construction accident put an end to that plan.

ethereal_reality Dec 3, 2018 8:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 8397321)
Provided that you zoom to the appropriate level, Google Maps has it marked as a powder magazine. This revelation led me to the nearby Drum Barracks Civil War Museum and Drum Barracks Park. (Named after someone named Drum, not a barracks for drummers.) The area was a 60 acre military post named Camp Drum. It was the Union Army's headquarters for southern California and Arizona during the Civil War. The museum is owned by the state and leased to the City of Los Angeles to run it. I did find mention of the powder magazine on the museum's web site on the Model Room page, but it was not stated who owns that property, or if the museum controls it.

Wow! Thank you ProphetM



Here's an image of the powder magazine...in what looks like..the early stage of deterioration. {1900s?)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/Ui0xgZ.jpg
ipmg


hmmmm.....note the single 'window'. In later pics there are two larger windows.

as it appears today,
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/nfGe3m.jpg

It makes me wonder if someone tried to convert it into a living quarters.





also.....too

The B & W pic. can't be showing this side. The door is in the wrong place.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/if9hU3.jpg

See how sleuthy I am.


;)


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