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The website above says that brothers Zelotes Larkin Parmelee and Charles Albert Parmelee moved to California in the 1870s, first to Dixon, then to Los Angeles. It also says that their first store was at 210 N Main St, but the first appearance I found in the City Directories is at 110-112 N Main in 1886-7. This store, selling crockery, glass, stone, plated ware and lamps, is listed as Parmelee's Bazar. A year later, gas and oil fixtures have been added to the inventory, and the business name had changed slightly to Parmelee's Bazaar. It looks like the store had expanded to include 108-112 N Main Street. Notice that both of these businesses are only in the name of Zelotes Parmelee. By 1893, his brother, Charles, was added as the company moved to 232-234 S Spring Street. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original LAPL Here's a picture of the S Spring Street store. USC have it mislabeled as "The Parmelee Dohrmann Company at the corner of Fifth Street and Broadway in Downtown Los Angeles". Their date is also wrong, so I send them an email. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original USC Digital Library The first mention of Mr Dohrmann comes in the 1900-1901 CD. It looks like his arrival led to a change in the company's structure. F W Dohrmann is listed as president, Charles Parmelee as vice-president and manager, and another brother, Elbert Russell Parmelee, as company secretary. Zelotes Parmelee seems to have moved a block away to 334 S Spring Street to concentrate on selling gas and electric fixtures. I found the advert below in a 1901 newspaper at the Library of Congress. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original Library of Congress (PDF file) Both businesses changed premises again by 1906. The Z L Parmelee Co moved to S Broadway. This advert from the 1906 CD says they were at 749-751 S Broadway, but the alphabetical listing includes a note saying "after Oct 1st at 718-722 S B'way." http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original LAPL The Parmelee-Dohrmann Co also moved to S Broadway. Their new store was at 436-444 S Broadway. The 1906 CD lists their president as A B C Dohrmann (San Francisco), which may explain why Mr Dohrmann doesn't show up in the CDs. Here's an article about Parmelee-Dohrmann's expansion from a 1909 edition of the Los Angeles Herald. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original California Digital Newspaper Collection And here's the store on S Broadway. USC describe it as "Building exterior--436 South Broadway, Parmelee-Dohrmann, Los Angeles, CA, 1927". The signage, which appears to have been added to the photograph, preempts my next image by advertising the company's move to S Flower Street. According to thefamilyparmelee.com, Elbert Parmelee died in 1920, and Zelotes Parmelee died in 1926. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original USC Digital Library Finally, here's a reverse view of the S Flower store seen in my first image. USC date this picture at 1928. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original USC Digital Library This detail view shows Ransohoffs at 729 S Flower and Myer Siegel & Co at 733 S Flower, both mentioned yesterday by Noircitydame. Abigail Stark's house is also visible with a parking lot either side. My 1937 image at the top of this post shows a four-story building housing the Kizer Business College in the plot next to the Kayser Shoe Company. The building obviously didn't last long as the extant parking garage seen in the 1966 Shulman photos appears to occupy the same space. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original Detail of picture above The 1934 CD lists "Bullock's Parmelee Dohrmann" at Broadway, Hill and 7th. It's the only mention I can find with the Bullock's name attached. The company is missing from the 1936 and 1938 CDs, but returns as the Parmelee Dohrmann Co at 510 W 7th Street in the 1939 and 1942 CDs. The last listing I found is at the same address in the 1956 CD. From thefamilyparmelee.com, "Dohrmann eventually bought the Parmelees out. The Dohrmann Commercial Co. was bought by the Broadway-Hale Corp., became part of Robinsons-May in 1996, and then rebranded as Macy's." |
By coincidence, I found this Parmelee postcard yesterday.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/903/UztARK.jpg http://www.plummersearch.com/blog/wp...EEedited-1.jpg This is the same address Hoss found in the 1906 directory. -note the empty lot next door. Plummer & Associates on the postcard is a modern 'watermark'. _ |
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http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...ocks2-6-33.jpg http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...s-PD2-6-33.jpg 2-6-33 LAT. Dohrmann apparently kept 436-444 S. Broadway for the hotel/restaurant supply side of the business until they moved to a new plant at 8888 Venice Blvd. Aug 11, 1952. http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...lle/_57tra.jpg postcard view of the 400 block of Broadway showing Parmalee-Dohrmann. my files Another view of the Flower St. Parmalee-Dohrmann. The parking lot extends to the corner of 8th. http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/lapl-P-D.jpg LAPL Charles A. Parmalee retired in 1927, the same year the Flower St. store opened. He died at 93 in May 1960. The little building with Kizer, 721 S. Flower: I have noted that it was built in 1930 (Harold Johnson, architect) with retail on the ground floor and lofts above. It was trimmed in silver & black and the first tenant was "tailor to the stars" Eddie Schmidt until 1937. 715-719 was the Wetherby-Kayser shoe store, who opened their outlet here 12-15-1925. This location was chosen specifically to "provide better facilities for women who drive their own cars" and featured a barber shop for women only. Claire Windsor being "bobbed and shod" at Wetherby-Kayser Flower St. and Claire sporting a bob in 1925 (the earrings have a picture of Bert Lytel, her husband at the time) http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...w-k6-27-26.jpg http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...aire1925_1.jpg 6-27-26 lat (ad); photo by Keytone- Getty Images There's a little 2-story jewelbox of a building squeezed in next to W-K, at 713. It opened Jan 4, 1931, housing tailor Charles Tartaglia & Bros. (founded 1907). http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...3-s-flower.jpg 1-4-31 lat It's dwarfed by Barker Brothers, who'd opened on the corner of 7th Jan. 26 1926. |
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ER, I really tried to set up photos in Flickr, but an Internet access issue tripped me up. In the interest of getting info out there, here's what I've found re: your movie screenshots from yesterday:
1. Believe the Soil-Off building to be at 4860 San Fernando Rd., Glendale. I found some pics of the product's packaging on Ebay U.K. (go figure), and their address was given as Glendale and their founding year as 1932. This location would be in the right sequence in the film, and the smaller building across Vine St. looks right to me. 2. I'm a little less convinced, but the building in your #3 would be at 4916 San Fernando Rd. 3. The bus in #15 is Asbury Rapid Transit. I'll see if I can get images up on Flickr tomorrow, meanwhile anyone who wants to check out the locations and get them up sooner should feel free to do so. |
Los Angeles Railway Car 2501
[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;7294544]'mystery' location
I just came across this photograph on eBay. "1946 Los Angeles Transit Railway CA #2501 Special Car." http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...903/KjRx9f.jpg http://www.ebay.com/itm/5C212-RP-194...cAAOSwZd1VXSaN :previous: Did that kid in the white shirt just fall down in the gutter? -also note the guy in the dark hat and coat exiting the street car from the back. As seen in the photo, car 2501 carries a "Special Car" dash sign. It was most likely on an enthusiasts special trip. However, it was truly a special car, having been used as an experimental test bed for a number of Los Angeles Railway innovations. Today it survives after a fashion as a car body without trucks (wheels) at the Orange Empire Railway Museum in Perris, Califiorna, having been rescued from "the pile" at Terminal Island. For additional information see: http://www.pacificelectric.org/los-a...1-not-at-rest/ https://books.google.com/books?id=6-...202501&f=false Cheers, Jack ______ |
:previous: Interesting information Wig-Wag.
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...633/MQj2Ll.jpggsv http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...910/9m1M7v.jpg 1946 / Columbia Pictures & here's the smaller building across the street. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...905/D854Z5.jpggsv http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...910/dpu1hc.jpg Thanks for your help HenryHuntington! & good luck with flickr. I hope it works for you today. __ |
'mystery' apartment building
Somewhere in the vicinity of USC campus, ca. 1951. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...907/7syqBr.jpg http://www.ebay.com/itm/29-Vintage-S...UAAOSw9r1WBHKj There are several additional slides from the 1951 graduation here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/29-Vintage-S...UAAOSw9r1WBHKj -two show a small 'mystery' statue in exposition park. as well as scenes taken at the coliseum. -also an entrance to a second apartment building. __ |
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I could only find a couple of mentions of the Larronde Block on NLA, and no good pictures. This undated image shows the New Times Building in the background.
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original lacity.org (PDF file) The Larronde Block was a wedge-shaped building opposite the Hotel Nadeau on the corner of 1st and Spring. There was also a Larronde Building nearby on Spring Street. I've highlighted both on the 1910 Baist map below. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original www.historicmapworks.com |
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http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original GSV It's the H-shaped building on the left of this aerial view. The tower in the background of the eBay image can be seen in the top-right. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original Bing Maps |
:previous: In all honesty I thought the building would be gone. So this is a pleasant surprise.
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With your information Hoss, I was able to find this. Exterior view of Aeneas Hall (now Stonier Hall) ca.1930s http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/T4G3WC.jpg http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics32/00065704.jpg |
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Soil...-/121662694887 If this experiment worked, there'll be a regrettably small image of the Soil-Off one-quart can above. However, it can be enlarged when viewed on Ebay. For anyone who might be interested in vintage packaging like this (or vintage products and/or companies), I found a few more details. The company name, "Soil-Off Manufacturing Co.", pretty much indicates that its namesake product likely was its only one. Ditto the slogan on the back of the can, "Perfected and Established 1932". So the inventor likely was the business owner. The company filed a trademark application on August 7, 1947; it expired on November 3, 1992. Google Books turned up a mention in a display ad in the San Jose Evening News of September 4, 1944: 60 cents for the one-quart can pictured, $1.00 for the half-gallon glass jar. There's a photo on-line of the half-gallon jar with updated artwork (from the mid/late-1950s, I'd guess): https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1537/...96f4fb86_s.jpg http://mrsguy.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-days-haul.html So the company apparently lasted at least that long. A search of the CA Secretary of State's database didn't find a corporate match, but it might not have records from that far back. Ecolab, Inc. sells an industrial strength (literally) cleaner named Soil-Off II, but I don't know if there's a relationship to the original product. |
The images at the Getty Research Institute were unavailable again yesterday, so here's a quick Julius Shulman post of an image I found when the site came back online a few hours ago. It's "Job 1023: United States Postal Service Office Building (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1951". There's no other information with the image, and I've drawn a blank in finding the location. The image contains a few clues - the street number is 5054, and the sign on the window says Station "G" Zone 37. The only post office I could find at that street number was 5054 York Boulevard, and it doesn't look right in GSV.
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...e.jpg~original Getty Research Institute ----------------- Thanks to Noircitydame for the additional information about the Parmelee-Dohrmann Company, and thanks to oldstuff for confirming the name of our New Year baby, Louis Angulo. Sad to hear that Louis died so young - I might not have posted the image if I'd known. |
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-just found on eBay. :) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/6tv5DI.jpg http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Post...cAAOSw4UtWQ-Vi Postmarked 1933. _ Colonnade, Cinderella Roof, Sixth at Olive |
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This PO was at 5054 S Vermont-- a building permit for it was issued March 27, 1951, and one for its demolition on October 14, 1992. |
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Well, finally, I have a chance to help out. The coffee shop pictured here is located at 8445 W. 3rd St., just east of La Cienega. When I went to work at this corner in 1974 the subject property was Gottfried's Deli. I was in the place hundreds of times. The Shulman photos are apparently tagged "demolished" according to the original post, so Gottfried's Deli I guess was a completely different bldg. But I don't know, the interior of Gottfied's was laid out just like this place. Poster HossC is precisely right, he guessed that the bldg to the left of the subject was a Mode O'Day location in 1956. In 1974 old timers in the neighborhood told me that was the case. When I worked there the bldg had been converted to office space, as the Mode O'Day usage was more of a warehouse, from what I was told. In the 3rd photo down you can see in the distance, between Johnny's and the Mode O'Day bldg, some of the offices of Dart Square. Of course on the Beverly/La Cienega corner of Dart Square was the Rexall store (Rexall, Owl Drug etc were all part of the Justin Dart empire, he really established the model for the modern drug store). Dart was also instrumental in the political career of Ronald Reagan. I worked on the ground floor of the old Mode O'Day bldg for the now defunct Transamerica Title Insurance Co. Yes, that Transamerica, founded by A.P. Giannini, as a holding company for B of A. The people in the S.F. pyramid. The 2nd floor of the building, when I was there, was the offices of David L. Wolper Productions. In about 1976, we saw actors like LeVar Burton hanging around the Wolper office. We were told that Wolper had a project in the works, a TV mini series of an Alex Haley novel called "Roots". I think you all know the rest of that story. At the far end of the Mode O'Day/Transamerica/Wolper bldg, right at the La Cienega corner, was United California Bank, which later became First Interstate Bank. Across 3rd street from Gottfied's Deli was a Chuck's Steak House location. That was demolished for an office bldg in the early '80's. Across from the parking lot you see here was a variety of small retail bldgs, including the space for The Record Plant recording studio, one of the busiest studios at that time. It was the first "living room" type studio. The address was 8456 W. 3rd. Long since torn down and assembled with adjacent properties for a strip mall. Look up the Wikipedia page for The Record Plant, every big name in the industry was there in the '70's. The Wiki page tells the story of one of the studio's owners, Gary Kellgren, who had a noirish death. He drowned at his home in '77, along with his secretary/girlfriend. There's also a photo of the front of the building during a 1978 fire. The Gottfried's Deli bldg is still standing, it's still a restaurant. The Mode O'Day/Transamerica bldg is now retail, TJ Maxx etc is in there, part of the Beverly Connection development. As are the Dart Square bldgs, all of which were torn down for what I have always thought was a pretty awful mall. |
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