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CaliNative

Dec 18, 2020 6:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 9137127)

:previous:

A selection of the magazines and comics on display in the walk-in newsstand.

Almost all of them dating from April 1941.

https://i.imgur.com/DeySZCZ.jpg

Wow, some of those comics are worth a bundle (or should I say a bitcoin?) now! The Blue Beetle never hit the big time. I wonder what his superpowers were? Squirting annoying, acrid and stinky substances?

Beaudry

Dec 18, 2020 8:09 AM

Speaking of olde-tymie magazines!

Now normally I wouldn't use this platform for naked self-promotion buuuut...I produced something that readers here might get a kick out of, which is a) about Old LA, including much architecture and b) does after all have noir in the title, just like our beloved thread.

Behold, Bunker Noir! A 56-page, full-color magazine, designed in the style of the vintage pulps of yore, specifically about historic crime and weird goings-on atop vanished Bunker Hill.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...91bb7b00_b.jpg

Should you be inclined to pick one up, you may do so here.

Some representative shots of the interior:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...2fd41221_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...cfefe822_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d6cac098_c.jpg

Noir_Noir

Dec 18, 2020 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9137021)

As a reminder here is 'Dad' Bailey's original newstand.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/1Iqqvj.jpg
flickr

skyscraperpage

This smaller stand was thought to be on or near Florence in South Los Angeles close to USC.

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Here's another picture of Charles "Dad" Bailey next to his first smaller stand.

https://i.imgur.com/wL9sX16.jpg
David Wayne Bailey - flickr

On the building behind him is an arrow and number pointing to 7115 ½ .

https://i.imgur.com/UCZC8de.jpg

Pretty much the only 7115 ½, I could find in the CDs.

https://i.imgur.com/gU84n1q.jpg
rescarta.lapl.org

7115 S. Main Street is still there ... right by Florence Ave. not far from USC.

Dad Bailey's would have stood in the red box right by 7115 S. Main Street.

https://i.imgur.com/3pt5Vff.jpg
Google Maps

https://i.imgur.com/1Idt0L8.jpg
GSV

It may have started out life as a fruit stand until "Dad" Bailey came along.

Here's a 1922 permit application for the moving of a fruit stand from 4723 Moneta Ave. to 7115 S. Main Street.

https://i.imgur.com/JVJkKu9.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org

HossC

Dec 18, 2020 1:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9137123)

In the back of the shop is a Delaware Punch sign. I know about Hawaiian Punch. What is Delaware Punch?

Here's a summary of what I found at www.candycarrollton.com:

Delaware Punch is a fruit-flavored soft drink. Its formula uses a blend of fruit flavors, with grape being the most prominent. It is non-carbonated and caffeine-free.

Delaware Punch was created by Thomas E. Lyons in 1913 and the brand is currently owned by The Coca-Cola Company.

Delaware Punch is still sold in some grocery stores in Louisiana, Arkansas, and south Texas, and some restaurants in Houston.

Delaware Punch was commonly sold at the New Orleans drug store chain K&B, before it was bought by Rite Aid in 1997. Delaware Punch is named for the Delaware grape from which its flavor is derived. The grape is native to Delaware County, Ohio, and the drink therefore has no affiliation with the state of Delaware.

It's also available from several online retailers.

Earl Boebert

Dec 18, 2020 4:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 9137201)

Here's a summary of what I found at www.candycarrollton.com:

Delaware Punch is a fruit-flavored soft drink. Its formula uses a blend of fruit flavors, with grape being the most prominent. It is non-carbonated and caffeine-free.

Delaware Punch was created by Thomas E. Lyons in 1913 and the brand is currently owned by The Coca-Cola Company.

Delaware Punch is still sold in some grocery stores in Louisiana, Arkansas, and south Texas, and some restaurants in Houston.

Delaware Punch was commonly sold at the New Orleans drug store chain K&B, before it was bought by Rite Aid in 1997. Delaware Punch is named for the Delaware grape from which its flavor is derived. The grape is native to Delaware County, Ohio, and the drink therefore has no affiliation with the state of Delaware.

It's also available from several online retailers.

I drank gallons of the stuff when I was going through AF OTS at Lackland AFB in Texas during the summer of '62. Tasted great after marching around in that godawful heat, and the lack of fizz made it easy on the stomach. Sort of a primitive Gatorade. Surprising to see it was available in LA, maybe demand was from people moving to LA from the Southland.

CaliNative

Dec 18, 2020 5:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 9137201)

Here's a summary of what I found at www.candycarrollton.com:

Delaware Punch is a fruit-flavored soft drink. Its formula uses a blend of fruit flavors, with grape being the most prominent. It is non-carbonated and caffeine-free.

Delaware Punch was created by Thomas E. Lyons in 1913 and the brand is currently owned by The Coca-Cola Company.

Delaware Punch is still sold in some grocery stores in Louisiana, Arkansas, and south Texas, and some restaurants in Houston.

Delaware Punch was commonly sold at the New Orleans drug store chain K&B, before it was bought by Rite Aid in 1997. Delaware Punch is named for the Delaware grape from which its flavor is derived. The grape is native to Delaware County, Ohio, and the drink therefore has no affiliation with the state of Delaware.

It's also available from several online retailers.

Thanks Hoss. Hoss the answer man. "Hoss" Cartwright was everyone's favorite Ponderosa brother back in the old days.

CaliNative

Dec 18, 2020 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 9137308)

Sounds refreshing. Hoss says Coke owns it, so it still must be available. Curious to try it. Good enough for Dad, good enough for me.

quickstop

Dec 18, 2020 6:52 PM

I buy this, same recipe with real sugar in glass bottles, not cheap but only get a few bottles a year. I also drank gallons as a kid and this tastes exactly the same

https://sodapopstop.com/shop/classic...ylvania-punch/

ethereal_reality

Dec 19, 2020 4:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 9137176)

On the building behind him is an arrow and number pointing to 7115 ½ .

https://i.imgur.com/UCZC8de.jpg

7115 S. Main Street is still there...right by Florence Ave. not far from USC.

Dad Bailey's would have stood in the red box right by 7115 S. Main Street.

One of the best examples of sleuthing to be found anywhere. Fantastic job, Noir Noir. :worship:

David Wayne Bailey would love to have this information.

ethereal_reality

Dec 19, 2020 5:12 PM

,
This is interesting.

I never gave a minute's thought to where offices of a drive-in theater chain might be located.

Well here's the answer.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/YVlKh7.jpg
eBay

Pacific Drive-In Theatres at 141 - 143 South Robertson Blvd., Los Angeles. (1957)

The date is interesting as well. The number of drive-ins peaked the next year (1958) at 4,063 theaters.

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sadykadie2

Dec 20, 2020 6:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9137123)

^^^^
I see a sign that says "Dad" Bailey sold sandwiches. I think I would have passed on a room temperature egg salad or tuna fish. Rule number 1--never buy a sandwich at a newstand. Doughnuts, maybe. In the back of the shop is a Delaware Punch sign. I know about Hawaiian Punch. What is Delaware Punch? I wonder if Dad would let you peruse the magazines without buying them? Some newstands got annoyed with that. You can understand why. Free riders putting folds and tears in the merchandise. Not good. Especially not for the girlie magazines. After 5 minutes dad would probably say "are you going to buy that?"

Delaware punch was pure heaven. It had a tang to it. The taste of my childhood--the 1970's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaware_Punch

sadykadie2

Dec 20, 2020 6:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 9137152)

That is cool 7 ways till Sunday! Already bought the Bunker Hill hardback. It's priceless!

ProphetM

Dec 20, 2020 8:17 AM

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Originally Posted by quickstop (Post 9137479)

By the way, this is the web site for Galco's on York Blvd. at 57th Ave. (just a few blocks west of that Garvanza Villa that was told about a few pages back), so any local Angelenos can just go down to Galco's and pick some up, as well as innumerable other sodas in glass bottles.

CaliNative

Dec 20, 2020 1:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sadykadie2 (Post 9138613)

Delaware punch was pure heaven. It had a tang to it. The taste of my childhood--the 1970's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaware_Punch

Sounds pretty good. An uncarbonated grape drink. Maybe just mix Welches grape juice with water? Or are there other fruit juices besides grape? Seems like Coca Cola could distribute more of it.

GaylordWilshire

Dec 20, 2020 8:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 9137152)

Well, Prudent, I can't help but notice what appears to be a Model 102 on your desk. Here are my own WE relics, still operational on a copper line:

https://i.postimg.cc/DfbGY6gn/Phonec...Mlarge-FNL.jpg

As for your BH book and magazine--I'm expecting them under the tree illustrated below, but if I'm disappointed, I'll be back in touch.

https://i.postimg.cc/GprzbNXF/spinnerorn.jpg

CaliNative

Dec 20, 2020 9:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sadykadie2 (Post 9138613)

Delaware punch was pure heaven. It had a tang to it. The taste of my childhood--the 1970's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaware_Punch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 9137152)

^^^

Looks intriguing, but is it all crime focused (as noir usually is) since noir means dark or black? Do you plan to some have stories on "feel good" non-crime stories as well from the "noir" era in L.A., as this very blog by ethereal reality often does? Many people (even during the Depression) lived ordinary and often happy lives back then, as we do now ( at least until the pandemic hit). How much do you plan to charge? Will it be available online as well as paper? Good work! Thanks Beaudry! Hope you do well with this.

Martin Pal

Dec 20, 2020 9:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 9137152)

Speaking of olde-tymie magazines!

Now normally I wouldn't use this platform for naked self-promotion buuuut...I produced something that readers here might get a kick out of...

If you don't use THIS forum for naked self-promotion you'd be insane! I didn't know about this (or the earlier book) until you mentioned them here on NLA, and I thank you for doing so!

Beaudry

Dec 21, 2020 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 9138847)

I do love my 102 with the E1 handset! Though my wife has me unplug it because the bell box is so loud it shakes the whole house. You've got quite the collection! And the 500 set is BUtterfield 8, of course!

Well if we're on the subject (and pardon the slovenly housekeeping, we haven't had guests since the Ides of March after all)...

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ae8d9b35_z.jpg
Here's the 300 set that's in my boy's room. He's 12, so doesn't really get it, but does think it's cool that we can still make phone calls when the electricity goes out.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0b35c743_z.jpg
An American Electric Monophone extension line in the wife's dressing room
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c4347b80_z.jpg
A Stromberg Carlson, I think
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...42f75316_z.jpg
A Kellogg Masterphone in the library
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5358b4f7_z.jpg
In the canning room off the furnace room. One of these days I'm going to be hit by a bus and my wife is gonna have a hell of a yard sale.

Beaudry

Dec 21, 2020 1:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9138880)

Thanks, and I hope so too! My profit margin is surprisingly slim (quality paper, printing locally, hiring a real designer, these things cost a bundle) but if I sell enough...we'll see!

In answer to your question, yes, it is 100% dark and terrible! Though in the opening essay I discuss how it isn't really fair to paint Bunker Hill with such a bleak brush (but for the purposes of this mag, I do it anyway). I absolutely agree, there were a lot of happy people on the Hill—which I discuss at length in my book, and which is why sunshine is part of that book's title.

This project though was the result of my publishers looking a the litany of true crime I'd penned into that book and saying "well this is a depressing slog" and cutting it all out. So I had to do SOMETHING with it! Actually, that said, there is a lot of other stuff in Bunker Noir! besides crime and murder. There's a section on crazy car stunts, on wacky architecture, the famed Cooper donut riot, the Lizard People of Fort Moore, the abandoned cemetery, Klansmen, fires—anything I thought kind of mondo and offbeat that you wouldn't find in a traditional, serious city guidebook.

And no, definitely not online. I'm a big fan of ink and paper. And its cost is $28; all that info is here.

Barstowboy

Dec 21, 2020 1:41 AM

After seeing the self-promoting blurb for your book, I ordered one. I already have 'Bunker Hill Los Angeles' - a marvelous work.
I'm looking forward to 'Bunker Noir'.

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