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ethereal_reality Jul 12, 2020 3:59 AM

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Here is another Ida Wyman photograph.....I find this one especially interesting.

"A man selects a song on the jukebox at the Vera Cruz Cafe in Los Angeles, 1950."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/X7KRR6.jpg
Monroe Gallery of Photography



So was the Vera Cruz Cafe in the Vera Cruz Hotel?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/YYZixO.jpg
1942 Directory / LAPL








Just for fun. Here's a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/qf4ZJB.jpg
Ida Wyman, 1950

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Lorendoc Jul 12, 2020 6:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8978454)
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Here is another Ida Wyman photograph.....I find this one especially interesting.

"A man selects a song on the jukebox at the Vera Cruz Cafe in Los Angeles, 1950."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/X7KRR6.jpg
Monroe Gallery of Photography





So was the Vera Cruz Cafe in the Vera Cruz Hotel?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/YYZixO.jpg
1942 Directory / LAPL

416 N. Main is the address of the Masonic Lodge Building next to the Pico House. Michael Ryerson made a post about the Vera Cruz Cafe 7 years ago, but the link is gone :[
Someone posted his image on Pinterest, though, so here it is:

https://i.imgur.com/YkAKiJG.jpg


But, wait, there's more:
https://i.imgur.com/K0kjkyM.jpg
News-Pilot 6/29/57 via newspapers.com

Since this was a San Pedro newspaper, the address of the cafe in the ad would be there, not DtLA :???:

Here's a Sanborn:
https://i.imgur.com/5u4AFwh.jpg
lapl.org

A block from the waterfront, a rough neighborhood dive one would imagine...

HossC Jul 12, 2020 7:36 AM

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This undated photo shows the Vera Cruz Cafe on N Spring. The "El Nuevo Ver[a Cruz] Cafe" window text seems to match the image above.

"View of Macy and Spring Streets. The Vera Cruz Cafe and a Chop Suey restaurant are at right across Spring Street. In the background is the Terminal Annex Post Office.".

https://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...XT=&DMROTATE=0https://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...XT=&DMROTATE=0
https://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...XT=&DMROTATE=0https://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...XT=&DMROTATE=0
LAPL

(Sorry, I had to hotlink the image because Photobucket won't display my upload!)

Noir_Noir Jul 12, 2020 9:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8978421)


Here is a newstand photograph, with a glimpse of a newsboy, that we may (or may not) have seen on NLA.....The photograph was taken by Ida Wyman in 1950.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/AQ8kgC.jpg
Monroe Gallery of Photography

.......................................................................................................:previous: Does anyone have that issue of Life Magazine?


The picture must have been taken in 1949 and not 1950 as labeled.


This is the edition of Life (July 11th 1949) that card was promoting.


https://i.imgur.com/BpApk52.jpg
Google Books - Life, 11 July 1949


It has an eight page spread "City Against Auto" on Los Angeles' traffic problems - starts on page 78.



The edition of The Ring magazine on the stand is also from July 1949.


https://i.imgur.com/zgKWfIK.jpg
boxrec.com

Earl Boebert Jul 12, 2020 1:41 PM

The Alger Hiss trial ended with a hung jury on July 7, 1949.

Cheers,

Earl

Martin Pal Jul 12, 2020 6:49 PM

A lot of the magazine names in that photo seem awfully generic, but I guess you knew what you were getting! I'm getting an "Eyeful".

I had to look up what that magazine was: EYEFUL. Here's the edition on the news stand in that photograph:

It's the August 1949, "Women Are Wacky" edition. (It was published every other month.)

https://live.staticflickr.com/2553/4...cc2dd4c3_b.jpgKokoJim

If I collected a huge stack of them I'd have an Eyeful Tower :runaway:.
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If one is curious about what's in an edition of EYEFUL Magazine, this link HERE will take you through the April 1949 edition page by page. My favorite was Bubble Gum Baby in which "we have a model entertaining herself with the 'latest fad' – chewing gum. And she blows a bubble so big, that when it pops, it blows all her clothes off. Yep. That happens."

Right before the back cover there is an ad that has a height/weight chart for men and women, your height and what you should weigh. (Each height should exactly weigh the same thing?) I'm guessing it might be different today than the one in 1949? There's also a reader comment section and photos submitted by readers, too.

HossC Jul 12, 2020 7:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8978216)

It was always my understanding that the street formerly known as Charity Street was our modern-day Grand Avenue.

However, the linked book gives that legacy to two different streets - Grand and Spring:

https://i.imgur.com/bojczhG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4ZHbqgs.jpg

Is the second paragraph simply in error? My understanding is that Spring Street used to be called Beware (or Lookout) Street....

USC has two Ord maps dated August 29, 1849. The first has the streets labeled in English, with Charity Street between Hope and Olive. The second is labeled in English and Spanish, so it has Charity Street between Hope and Olive and Calle de Caridad between Calle de las Esperanza and Calle Acey Zuna [sic]. I can't post new images at the moment, but you can check them out at the links.

Slauson Slim Jul 12, 2020 10:05 PM

The news stand photo: horse racing tip sheets and magazines, boxing mags, cigars and whiskey. All the necessities. Likely one could have placed a wager there as well.

Scott Charles Jul 12, 2020 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8978237)
:previous:

That book is simply (and no doubt inadvertantly) wrong, I'm sure. Here's the beginning of my own notes on Spring St., gathered from various sources over the years. It was probably only playfully called "Danger St." due to what's detailed in the latter part of this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8978871)
USC has two Ord maps dated August 29, 1849. The first has the streets labeled in English, with Charity Street between Hope and Olive. The second is labeled in English and Spanish, so it has Charity Street between Hope and Olive and Calle de Caridad between Calle de las Esperanza and Calle Acey Zuna [sic]. I can't post new images at the moment, but you can check them out at the links.

Thanks for the info, Noirishers! :)

I guess the mistake slipped past the editor of the book I linked to.

BillinGlendaleCA Jul 13, 2020 5:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8978181)
Fire destroys roof and interior of San Gabriel Mission church:

https://www.sgvtribune.com/2020/07/1...n-san-gabriel/

Fortunately, it stopped short of the altar; and, due to a renovation effort going on (which was probably the cause of the fire), most or all of the historic items had been removed to another location.

The local photography meetup group visited there earlier this year. My photo of the altar:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...26e754db_b.jpg_2230321-Edit.jpg by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

sadykadie2 Jul 13, 2020 6:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8978454)
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Here is another Ida Wyman photograph.....I find this one especially interesting.

"A man selects a song on the jukebox at the Vera Cruz Cafe in Los Angeles, 1950."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/X7KRR6.jpg
Monroe Gallery of Photography

Boy, they really went all out in decoration at the cafe, no?:uhh:



So was the Vera Cruz Cafe in the Vera Cruz Hotel?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/YYZixO.jpg
1942 Directory / LAPL








Just for fun. Here's a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/qf4ZJB.jpg
Ida Wyman, 1950

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Boy, they really went all out in decoration at the cafe, no?:uhh:

odinthor Jul 13, 2020 7:49 PM

634 W. 15th St.
 
A structure at 634 W. 15th St. had an interesting and varied career:


https://i.postimg.cc/4yFxQNLm/634w15001.jpg
odinthor collection


https://i.postimg.cc/4yMXh2yc/634-W15th-LAT-25-22-6.jpg
LA Times, 6/22/1925


https://i.postimg.cc/2jJYGJjb/634-W15th-LAT-38-4-11.jpg
LA Times, 4/11/1938


https://i.postimg.cc/CKLMXq3z/634-W15th-LAT-38-8-7.jpg
LA Times, 8/7/1938


https://i.postimg.cc/bvCYhvPL/634-W1...T-48-11-21.jpg
LA Times, 11/21/1948


https://i.postimg.cc/T3TT5bYC/634-W15th-LAT-54-8-3.jpg
LA Times, 8/3/1954


https://i.postimg.cc/QxbRPyhJ/634-W15th-LAT-56-9-9.jpg
LA Times, 9/9/1956

Beaudry Jul 13, 2020 8:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8974147)
I don't know if Beaudry had his question answered as to what the blinking neon said on the Tanner Gray Line Depot. :shrug:

I imagine this picture has likely been posted somewhere on the thread but I can't locate it. Anyway it shows the line-up of the neon below the windows.


https://i.imgur.com/yWWaJQT.jpg
dl.library.ucla.edu

Oh my Lord thank you! No, I don't think this was ever shared before on NLA. I had despaired of ever seeing such an image. Don't know why I never found it myself at UCLA but perhaps it's a comparatively newish addition.

ethereal_reality Jul 14, 2020 3:50 AM

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Mystery 'Rotor' ride at The Pike in Long Beach. [1961]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/izyeWR.jpg
eBay


Do any amusement ride aficionados visit NLA?...I could use some help with this one.

note the life-size illustrations of women battling g-forces (and trying to keep their skirts in place) They're no doubt there to entice the guys.


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ethereal_reality Jul 14, 2020 4:37 AM

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I don't believe we have seen the Headliner Restaurant on Cahuenga Blvd.


The Headliner Restaurant - 1540 Cahuenga Blvd. - 'Til 3 A.M.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/XbsyGW.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/d2xY5y.jpg
eBay





The information inside the match cover.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/ZtpLb7.jpg


With the mention of Franklyn D'Amore I think this place might have also gone by the name, Casa D'Amore


Here's the Link to an earlier post that mentions Franklyn and the Casa D'Amore. (also on Cahuenga)





for search purposes: Think-A-Drink Hoffman and Nat Golde

Hollywood Graham Jul 14, 2020 4:49 AM

mystery Ride
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8980354)
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Mystery 'Rotor' ride at The Pike in Long Beach. [1961]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/izyeWR.jpg
eBay


Do any amusement ride aficionados visit NLA?...I could use some help with this one.

note the life-size illustrations of women battling g-forces (and trying to keep their skirts in place) They're no doubt there to entice the guys.


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Pacific Ocean Park had one also. You enter inside against the wall, it spins and spins then the floor drops down. You are going so fast you are pinned in place against the wall till the floor comes up and slows down. Unfortunately my girl friend got sick and barfed, guess who was the receiver of the barf....That was 1962 and she as well as I remember it clearly.

Noir_Noir Jul 14, 2020 5:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8980381)
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I don't believe we have seen the Headliner Restaurant on Cahuenga Blvd.


The Headliner Restaurant - 1540 Cahuenga Blvd. - 'Til 3 A.M.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/XbsyGW.jpg
eBay


The Headliner had an eleven foot tall neon sign installed in 1946.


https://i.imgur.com/O3QmmaF.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org

CityBoyDoug Jul 14, 2020 5:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8980354)
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Mystery 'Rotor' ride at The Pike in Long Beach. [1961]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/izyeWR.jpg
eBay


Do any amusement ride aficionados visit NLA?...I could use some help with this one.



note the life-size illustrations of women battling g-forces (and trying to keep their skirts in place) They're no doubt there to entice the guys.


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As far as I know, these types of rides are still existing in the US.

quickstop Jul 14, 2020 5:47 PM

United States – Several Rotors have been constructed in the United States since the 1960s. Though most of these have since been demolished and replaced by other rides, there are rotors still in operation at some places, such as Canobie Lake Park in Salem, New Hampshire ("Turkish Twist"), Frontier City in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma ("Tumbleweed"), Sylvan Beach Amusement Park in Sylvan Beach, New York. Another Rotor, with an observation platform, appears at the yearly Washington State Fair in Puyallup, Washington. (from wikipedia)

CityBoyDoug Jul 14, 2020 6:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickstop (Post 8980900)
United States – Several Rotors have been constructed in the United States since the 1960s. Though most of these have since been demolished and replaced by other rides, there are rotors still in operation at some places, such as Canobie Lake Park in Salem, New Hampshire ("Turkish Twist"), Frontier City in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma ("Tumbleweed"), Sylvan Beach Amusement Park in Sylvan Beach, New York. Another Rotor, with an observation platform, appears at the yearly Washington State Fair in Puyallup, Washington. (from wikipedia)


http://static.messynessychic.com/wp-...Rotor-Ride.jpg


Thanks Quick for keeping a close eye on these things.

http://static.messynessychic.com/wp-...nd-1950s-1.jpg
all images messyness.


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