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FredH Aug 22, 2014 7:58 PM

MichaelRyerson - It is wonderful that you were able to recover a couple of the bricks from Mignonette and Fremont. I have always felt that historic
artifacts should belong to someone who appreciates them. The bricks have found a good home.

A couple of the Noirish guys have been out to Fremont Ave. in the past and took some photos before construction began. I was always hoping that
someone would salvage some of the bricks, and now you have. Congratulations!

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps1f36ad5d.jpg
Photo by kznyc2k

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...psb7baaf54.jpg
Photo by Westcork

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps8521e55d.jpg
Photo by Westcork

MichaelRyerson Aug 22, 2014 9:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 6701975)
MichaelRyerson - It is wonderful that you were able to recover a couple of the bricks from Mignonette and Fremont. I have always felt that historic
artifacts should belong to someone who appreciates them. The bricks have found a good home.

A couple of the Noirish guys have been out to Fremont Ave. in the past and took some photos before construction began. I was always hoping that
someone would salvage some of the bricks, and now you have. Congratulations!

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps8521e55d.jpg
Photo by Westcork

Thanks Fred, I appreciate it. I couldn't agree more. They should find their way into the hands of people who get a little flush of pleasure every time they look at them. The smaller Bruno stone is my favorite but I have to admit every time I touch one of the Mignonette bricks I think of Anna May Wong as a child and that goofy laundry cart.

By the way, look at your third picture here and this one of mine. I'm sure they're the same curb and gutter.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3877/...a1b096c2_b.jpgNLA Scout

ethereal_reality Aug 22, 2014 11:07 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...539/LBiqgb.jpg
old file/probably ebay




detail #1 (Melody Lane)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/LQ3q9Q.jpg




detail #2
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/AFmGsj.jpg





detail #3
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/539/vtFxrD.jpg

That hazy silhouette is what gave the location away (oops, and the fact that the billboard says Long Beach...duh)
I'm pretty sure it's the facade of the Long Beach Municipal Auditorium.
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If it turns out that I have posted it before, it's certainly worth a second look. ;) -don't ya think?

Tourmaline Aug 22, 2014 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6701519)
:previous:



HDL has this image labeled incorrectly - it's actually a south facing view of the UCLA campus not USC.



Good information, as always. I originally typed UCLA, but deferred to HDL even though I couldn't place any of the outlying landmarks.


Speaking of landmarks, how about "City on the Mount?"

1895 - Mt. Lowe
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...LJPPT7F2P5.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...LJPPT7F2P5.jpg



Venice Post Card - Undated
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics19/00009130.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/pics19/00009130.jpg



Eighth and Broadway - Undated
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067459.jpghttp://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067459.jpg


More of Great Republic - Undated
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067458.jpghttp://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067458.jpg


City Hall - undated
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics17/00018099.jpghttp://jpg2.lapl.org/pics17/00018099.jpg

Tourmaline Aug 22, 2014 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6670808)
Early PR for the glamorous Los Angeles lifestyle: Live broadcast by the pool in 1939 at the Don Lee studios. The pool was on top of Mt. Lee. That's the TV studio in the background [left]. (courtesy of Steve Dichter)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psd9c3963d.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps0bb04dbd.jpg
CD files




1948 Looking for Cheesecake from on high?
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00095/00095948.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00095/00095948.jpg

Retired_in_Texas Aug 23, 2014 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6701906)
Thanks Hoss for posting your updated info.
I really learned the hard way by trying to upgrade my old computer. Old computers are really not as sturdy and versatile as newer models are.

Most computer techs will add on memory to your old computer and take your money. If they were honest they would tell you to buy a new computer but of course they need your repair money. As I said before, I learned my lesson the old fashioned hard way. :(:D:(

Good advice! I'm going to add to that though, find a long standing clone shop and have them build the computer to best meet your needs/wants verses grabbing the sounds good, low price computer from a big box store or one of the online sellers. If ones old computer's hard drive is and IDE drive you may want to have them use a Mother Board that supports both IDE and SATA hard drives. That will provide the option of simply adding the old drive to the new computer to have easy access to all your data files. The alternative to the latter is to network the old computer with the new and do a lot of copying. Of course a new computer means the pain of re-installing all your software which can be a really bad experience if you have downloaded any of it and your only licensing info is in E-mail on the old hard drive. Print out those E-Mails before moving anything or before assuming you can transfer them to the new drive.

Lastly have a case of your favorite beer or a couple of bottles of Jack Daniels immediately available before you start.:)

Albany NY Aug 23, 2014 12:36 AM

I'm surprised it could even reach highway speeds!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 6701616)
Can't tell for sure, but it looks like the hotshot in the right lane coming our way is driving a Crosley Hotshot.

Cheers,
Earl

Good set of peepers, Earl Boebert! I also thought it was the rare Hotshot, but I didn't post it because I thought no one would have a clue what I was talking about!
http://imageshack.com/a/img742/3572/fRRTLI.jpg

Nothing even slightly noir about this car. Paint it green and call it Kermit.

Albany NY Aug 23, 2014 1:03 AM

He has a well-stamped passport!
 
Originally posted by ER

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wig-Wag (Post 6701663)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...909/qUx16A.jpg

Okay, has anyone noticed (cue the spooky music) the face in the cactus leaf?

Cheers,
Jack

Holy crap, Jack! Not only do I see the face, but I know exactly who it is.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/469yf2.jpg

He spends every Easter in the Islands. Nice guy, but a bit hard-headed.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...905/ZIPGEZ.jpg

CityBoyDoug Aug 23, 2014 1:10 AM

Movie companies were terrified of TV...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6702195)

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

At the end of WW II, there were only 44,000 TV sets in the entire US.

Don Lee was the LA pioneer in TV. He was a wealthy Cadillac dealer and had interests in other wacky things like radio.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psfbf4f4ce.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pseff9e752.jpg
TV Museum
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psfd95b4a7.jpg
TV Museum

FredH Aug 23, 2014 2:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albany NY (Post 6702257)
Originally posted by ER



Holy crap, Jack! Not only do I see the face, but I know exactly who it is.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/469yf2.jpg

He spends every Easter in the Islands. Nice guy, but a bit hard-headed.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...905/ZIPGEZ.jpg


Wow! You may be right. For some reason, I was thinking it was THIS guy.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps926d8fd2.jpg
http://www.peterford.com/ford.406.013.jpg

Wig-Wag Aug 23, 2014 3:56 AM

:D
Quote:

Originally Posted by Albany NY (Post 6702257)
Originally posted by ER



Holy crap, Jack! Not only do I see the face, but I know exactly who it is.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/469yf2.jpg

He spends every Easter in the Islands. Nice guy, but a bit hard-headed.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...905/ZIPGEZ.jpg


By golly, Albany NY, I think you're right! Great stuff! :D

Cheers,
Jack

HenryHuntington Aug 23, 2014 3:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albany NY (Post 6702239)
Good set of peepers, Earl Boebert! I also thought it was the rare Hotshot, but I didn't post it because I thought no one would have a clue what I was talking about!
http://imageshack.com/a/img742/3572/fRRTLI.jpg

Nothing even slightly noir about this car. Paint it green and call it Kermit.

Ah, but under that plain Jane exterior, what there was of it anyway, the Hotshot sported (sorry!) the world's first automotive application (in more than one sense) of caliper disc brakes. So the Crosley was a prototype in that sense for all contemporary cars.

HossC Aug 23, 2014 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albany NY (Post 6702239)

http://imageshack.com/a/img742/3572/fRRTLI.jpg

Nothing even slightly noir about this car.

The Crosley isn't completely without connections to this thread. A New York Times article titled Frugal, Before Americans Cared names a few well-known Crosley owners, including Frank Lloyd Wright. From the article:

"In the mid-1930s Wright established a second location for his Taliesin design and architecture school, near Scottsdale, Ariz. After the war, he became fond of taking road trips from the original Taliesin, in Spring Green, Wis., to Taliesin West. Wright would generally make the trip in a Bentley, Lincoln, Cadillac or Mercedes. His followers weren’t so lucky. They were banished to his fleet of Crosley Hotshots, painted his signature shade of Cherokee Red, a trip about as comfortable as crossing the country in a golf cart."

The car below is one of those Crosleys. It's part of a slideshow in another NY Times article: The Auto as Architect's Inspiration.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ghtCrosley.jpg
The New York Times/Matt Short/Auburn Cord Duesenberg Automobile Museum

Another of the celebrity owners named in the first article is Gloria Swanson. Maybe it was a case of "I am big. It's the cars that got small." :)

ethereal_reality Aug 23, 2014 2:43 PM

This looks like an interesting place.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/EUvDQm.jpgebay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...539/BVXDMH.jpgebay

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MartinTurnbull Aug 23, 2014 2:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6700601)
Lol! Hmmm...

A bit of simulated time-traveling:

I know that the film Gangster Squad is not a favorite on this board for several reasons. I still am going to see it sometime, just because, but we know that scenes filmed at the Chinese Theatre were deleted and reshot in Chinatown, or whatever, because of the Colorado incident in a movie theater.

There's some footage online that was taken while the film was being shot which shows Hollywood Blvd. and the Chinese Theatre done up in period dress at Christmas time.

It says "deleted scenes" but the footage is not from the film, but someone shooting behind the scenes.

I think it is interesting and gives a little what it might have felt like in 1949, was it? Yes, Madame Tussaud's wasn't there and the red car we see come by is fitted with tires, but go with it...if one has a mind to. It's quite short.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa2uBOHN8ps

It's indicated this was filmed in December of 2011. I surely would've gone there to see this if I had known about it. Surprised it wasn't on the news at all.

That was really interesting to see the boulevard dressed in period cars and clothes...assuming you can look past the tires on the red cars which I assume would've been CGI'd out.

Was the movie accurate? No, unfortunately not. But strictly as a movie, I quite enjoyed it. More than I was expecting to.

And in related news...my novels set in and around the Garden of Allah in the 20s, 30s, and 40s have just been optioned by a film & TV producer. His latest project is "100 Foot Journey" starring Helen Mirren which was produced by Steven Spielberg and Oprah Winfrey. At any rate, he's very into the whole old Hollywood era and wants to use my books as the basis for a film or (preferably) TV show. Part of our deal is to bring me on as an historical consultant, so should it get green lit, then--fingers crossed--we could see faithful recreations of places like the Garden of Allah, Ciro's, Cocoanut Grove, Hollywood Blvd, Don the Beachcomber, Schwab's, the Tick Tock, Bullocks Wilshire, the Sunset Strip.


For those who are interested here is some more information on my website:
http://bit.ly/1muu67L

The official announcement in the Hollywood Reporter (which is ironic, because one of my characters works at THR)
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...r-snaps-726721

ethereal_reality Aug 23, 2014 2:49 PM

Here's a handsome member of the LASD.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/5xiVuX.jpg
http://www.badgehistory.com/

The building behind his right shoulder looks like it might be an adobe.
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Hollywood Girl Aug 23, 2014 3:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krell58 (Post 6376499)
I got a DVD of the movie Wonderland, about the Wonderland murders, starring Val Kilmer.
The special features include the LAPD crime scene video, dead bodies and all.
What a rampage.

The crime scene was released in 2000 it's graphic to say the least

MichaelRyerson Aug 23, 2014 3:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6702632)
Here's a handsome member of the LASD.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/5xiVuX.jpg
found in an old file of mine/probably ebay

The building behind his right shoulder looks like it might be an adobe.
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I don't think adobe. The large building is the Post Office at Temple and Main Streets. Our handsome law enforcement officer is standing
between a couple of formidable Buick pursuit cars parked (I think) in the parking area to the immediate east of the Hall of Justice.
Recently extended Spring Street (1931) is behind him and the lower buildings are on New High Street. The building with the two roof
vents is actually a police garage and has been there for a long time. The tall building on the left edge is the Murrietta Building
(327 New High Street) which housed, for many years, on its second floor Madame Van's house of ill fame. Handy for the local government
functionaries.

By the way, great picture. (the license plates tell us 1935)

HossC Aug 23, 2014 4:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6702628)

This looks like an interesting place.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/EUvDQm.jpgebay

The snippet below is from an issue of 'The Billboard' dated 15 May 1943. I'm guessing that the Bal-Tabarin took its name from a cabaret in Paris which operated between 1904 and 1953.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...alTabarin1.jpg
books.google.com

Here's a souvenir menu which the seller dates at 1946.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...alTabarin2.jpg
eBay

And a 1940s souvenir photograph.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...alTabarin3.jpg
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...alTabarin4.jpg
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...alTabarin5.jpg
eBay

I also found information about clubs/restaurants with the same name and from the same era in New York and San Francisco. I don't know if there was any connection between them.

15513 South Western Avenue, Gardena now appears to be the parking lot/forecourt of a Honda dealership.

Martin Pal Aug 23, 2014 7:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinTurnbull (Post 6702631)
That was really interesting to see the boulevard [Hollywood Blvd.] dressed in period cars and clothes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa2uBOHN8ps

I thought so, too!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinTurnbull (Post 6702631)
And in related news...my novels set in and around the Garden of Allah in the 20s, 30s, and 40s have just been optioned by a film & TV producer. His latest project is "100 Foot Journey" starring Helen Mirren which was produced by Steven Spielberg and Oprah Winfrey. At any rate, he's very into the whole old Hollywood era and wants to use my books as the basis for a film or (preferably) TV show.



Congratulations on this news MT! Keep us posted. Coincidentally, I just saw that film last night.


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