^Was literally just going to mention MetroPark.

That area could actually use some rezoning and further densification, it's a perfect spot for it.

Yeah, I think Metropark is arguable, because it's very office parky with a few midrises (and maybe highrises?), but it's also very rail-oriented sprawl. It wouldn't exist absent rail.

And Edison, NJ is pretty old. Neighborhoods near Metropark were developed by 1950. Places like Troy, MI literally built highrises on the former site of cornfields in the 1970's, while there were still adjacent working farms. Toronto built lots of residential highrises on the very edge of development, on rural plots.

There is a highrise called Blue Hill Plaza, in Rockland County, that was built in the middle of nowhere. Basically a 1970's tower in the woods:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_H...:BHPAerial.jpg

Morristown? Bridgeport? Norwalk?
Skylines?
That's like saying San Pedro has a skyline.

Ant, you forgot to tell the internationals where Buckhead is located.

Buckhead is about 8 miles north of downtown Atlanta, Georgia but within the city limits.

None of them are huge but White Plains, New Rochelle, and Stamford all have decent skylines for their size. Newark could arguably count as well in that it is part of the NYC metro now.

Boston is similar with essentially no high-rises and only a few mid-rises in suburban environments and the only taller buildings in the metro outside of the core being in cities in the CSA like Providence, RI, Worcester, MA, and Manchester, NH

They all have intensely urban centers with midrise skylines, so very different from San Pedro. And San Pedro isn't a suburb or satellite city, and doesn't have a corporate base.

I know those places are but the three I mentioned def don't have skylines, unless you want to count numerous places in Chicago, LA, DC etc.

I think we have different standards of intense urbanity.
Morristown? Norwalk? Bridgeport?
:shrug:

This was about skylines anyway.
Their midrise skylines are pretty common in many metro areas, theres nothing that stands out about them.

Houston uptown

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e62190e6_h.jpgUptown Houston by brijonmang, on Flickr

oh there's the williams tower

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...dcb9c6cc_h.jpgUptown Houston Panoramic by brijonmang, on Flickr

They do stand out in the Northeast where outside of DC suburban skylines are an oddity. Overall they don't stand out when compared to the rest of the country I suppose, but they stand out for the region they are located in.

I don't know if I'd call Houston's Uptown/ Galleria area 'suburban'.

I'd say it's like a suburban downtown, regardless of who manages it.

Right...definitely not suburban. Way too close in. I would consider the developing Energy Corridor skyline suburban, though.

I just watched several drone aerials of Houston's Uptown and I still can't determine whether it's suburban or urban?

But is it walkable or too disjointed for walking?

Can you name these "numerous places", please?

Transit oriented suburban cores with downtown department stores in highrise office towers, and extensive prewar, rail-oriented fabric and rail-oriented commuting patterns. Where are all these alleged places?

In Chicago, Evanston is the only candidate, but I'm not even counting the "Evanstons" (ie extensions of city proper, like Jersey City and Yonkers). I'm talking about satellite cities.

In LA, I don't think there's even one such place. Maybe Long Beach, kinda, but it's more like an Evanston (an extension of LA).

In DC, there are plenty of suburban nodes, but they're postwar urban islands in sprawl. There's no prewar fabric.

Good God, man. For the second time, this thread is about skylines. Not department stores, commuting patterns. :rolleyes::uhh:
. For the third time, I was talking about Bridgeport, Morristown, Norwalk. Places you named as having skylines.

Yes, places like El Segundo, Irvine (a few areas there), Santa Ana etc have bigger clusters have highrises than those three places. I won't name every single place, or DC nodes either. I'm sure you'd disregard them for not being prewar or not having a commuter rail station. :shrug:

Yes, Stamford, White Plains, Newark etc have skylines. Duh. No one is disagreeing with those. Just those other three cities you named.

Toronto - Yonge and Eglinton

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5470d167_h.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/hotcommodity/49388333436/

Regent Park near downtown Toronto is quickly developing a skyline separate from downtown, however it may merge with downtown in the future

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3c781b93_h.jpgAerial-Toronto-109 by _futurelandscapes_, on Flickr

slighly OT, but it's totally comical to me how suburban highrise Canadian housing developments are marketed, compared to suburban midrises you see in the US.

Let's compare the websites for new condos in Surrey, BC with those in Gresham, OR (suburbs of Vancouver/portland respectively)

Park George in Surry, BC (two 30-40 story developments, 350 units each)

https://www.parkgeorge.com/

Quotes (note the awkward English phrasing, probably due to poor translation from Chinese, like they're not even bothering):

compare to Gresham - two new development totalling 700 units next to light rail, 6 stories or so woodframe

https://pamplinmedia.com/images/arti...05300-0788.jpg

Press release-note difference in phrasing and tone

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300890740.html

I think the term “suburban skylines” is quite misleading, when what we mean are skylines that are not in the CBD of a big city. Such “skylines” vary greatly from one metro to another in terms of their composition. Atlanta as an example: Buckhead is in many ways the central shopping area of Atlanta and has a very large commercial office component on Peachtree Street that is the extension of Peachtree from Downtown/ Midtown; the Perimeter area, with many high-rises contains many of the corporate offices found in the Atlanta metro –it is a few miles north of Buckhead but in essence a continuation of Peachtree; the so-called “Triangle” in the NW abuts the city of Atlanta and is where the Atlanta Opera and Ballet perform as well as the Atlanta Braves, it might appear suburban, but many components are those of a CBD. Many of the extraordinary developed high rise areas in some cities (and notably in Canada) are composed principally of residential buildings. In my view residential high rise building present a very different style of skyline from that given by commercial buildings.