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njbeliever777 Nov 10, 2007 3:16 PM

NEW JERSEY | American Dream@Meadowlands (Xanadu)
 
This is a mega-mall being built right next to the Izod Center (Continental Airlines Arena). If anyone has any news of things that are going there or pictures. please post ;)

http://www.meadowlandsxanadu.com/ste...ets/056910.jpg

http://www.herrmann-vermoegen.de/xanadu1.jpg

http://www.mack-cali.com/graphics2/props/images/MX1.jpg

NYC2ATX Dec 23, 2007 1:46 AM

Hey! Any updates on this amazing mega-development?

Seat24inNJ Dec 25, 2007 2:45 AM

The only updates are this monstrosity is getting bigger everyday. You cant even see the Meadowlands arena from route 3 anymore.

njbeliever777 Dec 26, 2007 10:43 PM

if anyone has any pictures, please post :)

and yeah it is getting bigger and bigger everyday

Lecom Jan 3, 2008 11:09 PM

They're applying cladding to the finished ski ramp structure and the surrounding garages and complex building. So far the cladding looks quite ugly.

njbeliever777 Jan 9, 2008 2:03 AM

not to sound stupid. but wahts cladding?

Crawford Jan 9, 2008 3:59 AM

This will be the most expensive mall on earth (in terms of construction costs). It will be the third largest mall on earth after one in Dubai and one in Canada.

Given that it is just a few miles west of Manhattan and has great highway and rail access to the world's second largest consumer market (after Tokyo), I think it would be shocking if it were not a big success.

njbeliever777 Jan 10, 2008 11:56 PM

oh yeah theres no doubt this is going to be successfull. i just hope it doesnt become dumpy as the highly hyped Jersey Gardens malls has became. That mall was supposed to be the "greatest thing ever" when it was built some years ago but nows its gone trashy. i hope it doesnt happen to this mall

Scruffy Jan 18, 2008 8:47 AM

cladding = the outer layer of materials. The last exterior design touch

njbeliever777 Jan 19, 2008 3:04 AM

oh is that like the blue and white stuff right

NYguy Mar 6, 2008 8:31 PM

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...C9I&refer=home

Corzine Spoils Manhattan View for New Jersey With Ferris Wheel

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/data?p...d=i94BYnwKiW_c

The proposed Pepsi Globe, a 287-foot Ferris wheel, is shown at the Xanadu sports and entertainment complex in East Rutherford, New Jersey, in this undated artist's rendering. Residents of Bergen County, New Jersey, who view the Manhattan skyline from their homes soon may be looking at the giant Ferris wheel instead.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/data?p...d=i_Db.UFkdgjA


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/data?p...d=iFUOd8zmLIzA


By Terrence Dopp
March 6 (Bloomberg)

Don't expect residents of Bergen County, New Jersey, to be first in line for a ride on the Ferris wheel going up in their backyards, the tallest in the U.S.

Neighbors complain that the project will obstruct their view of Manhattan's skyline across the Hudson River, hurting property values. Lane Biviano, Rutherford borough's attorney, is mustering public opposition to the Ferris wheel on a Web site listing beefs about its safety and aesthetics.

The ride will tower 287 feet (87 meters), eclipsing Dallas's 212-foot Texas Star. It's part of the $2 billion Xanadu sports and entertainment complex being built next to the Meadowlands racetrack, a project Governor Jon Corzine backs as a way to stimulate the state's economy.

"We don't want our town to be associated with some honky- tonk Ferris wheel,'' said East Rutherford Mayor James Cassella, whose community includes the Xanadu site. "There's a concern about our image.''

Construction of the Ferris wheel is scheduled to start in midsummer, said Xanadu spokesman Rich Edmonds. It will be ready to open with the rest of Xanadu in November, said Lloyd Kaplan, a spokesman for Meadowlands Development.


"I'm sure there were people who didn't like the Eiffel Tower being built because they felt it would impede their view,'' Kaplan said. ``You can't please everybody. We believe this will be of enormous beauty.''

The ride will be called the Pepsi Globe under a 10-year naming-rights agreement with Purchase, New York-based PepsiCo Inc. The wheel's 26 glass-enclosed, climate-controlled capsules will hold as many as 20 people each for 25-minute rides affording views of New York City and the Hudson. Ticket prices haven't been set, Edmonds said.

New Landmark

Ferris wheels are named after George Ferris, an engineer who designed the first one for the 1893 world's fair in Chicago. New Jersey's ride will become as recognizable as the St. Louis Gateway Arch, the Seattle Space Needle or the London Eye, another Ferris wheel, PepsiCo said in a statement announcing its sponsorship.

The wheel's high profile is just one concern of East Rutherford's Cassella. It will sit within 100 feet of the New Jersey Turnpike, one of the busiest highways in the U.S., and Cassella said it may distract drivers.

"People will take their eyes off the road,'' Cassella said. ``Your natural instinct will be to look at it. There will be a safety issue.''

Pollution, Police, Noise

Rutherford Mayor John Hipp said he hasn't heard one person in his community of 18,000 voice support for the ride. Hipp said he will lose the view of Manhattan from his front porch and Xanadu will increase pollution, use too much electricity and strain local services such as police.

Residents also say the Ferris wheel will generate too much noise, endanger planes using nearby Teterboro Airport and create an eyesore with its huge Pepsi logo, according to Biviano's Web site.

"Doesn't taste count for anything?'' Biviano said. His www.savetheskyline.com trumpets the Star-Ledger newspaper's report that state Senate President Richard Codey called Xanadu "yucky-looking.''

Lilo Stainton, a spokeswoman for Corzine, referred calls about the Ferris wheel to Dennis Robinson, head of the New Jersey Sports & Exposition Authority. He said Xanadu is providing hundreds of construction jobs and will create 12,500 permanent positions and millions of dollars in tax revenue.

"There is more economic development activity taking place at the sports complex than anywhere else in the state,'' Robinson said. He cited $1.3 billion being spent on a new stadium for the New York Giants and $185 million to link the Meadowlands to the state's mass transit system.

Skiing, Bowling

Plans also call for a 780-foot indoor ski slope with man- made snow, a martini bar with bowling alleys, a skydiving simulation, shops, restaurants and an 18-screen movie theater.

The company hasn't submitted a design to obtain a construction permit for the Ferris wheel, said Chris Donnelly, spokesman for the state Department of Community Affairs, which regulates amusement rides. Meadowlands Development partners include Colony Capital LLC, a Los Angeles-based real-estate company led by billionaire Thomas Barrack; KanAm, a German real- estate firm; and New York-based Dune Capital Management LP's real estate fund.

Corzine's administration participated in several meetings when Colony Capital Acquisitions LLC was negotiating to purchase Mills Corp.'s Xanadu stake in November 2006, after Mills ran out of money for the project, said Jim Gardner, a spokesman for the governor.

The Ferris wheel will play a central role in Xanadu's success, generating interest and luring families, Robinson said.

Biviano is sticking with his view: The wheel is "structural graffiti.''

Dac150 Mar 6, 2008 8:46 PM

So this will be the largest mall in the United States, beating out the Mall of America? It looks horrible in person, especially driving down the NJ Turnpike. Very gaudy presentation to say the least.

Seat24inNJ Mar 7, 2008 5:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dac150 (Post 3399398)
So this will be the largest mall in the United States, beating out the Mall of America? It looks horrible in person, especially driving down the NJ Turnpike. Very gaudy presentation to say the least.

Uhhh its not close to being done yet. Another year and a half of construction will make anything look like shit.

Seat24inNJ Mar 7, 2008 5:41 PM

It will undoubtedly be a very big tourist attraction in North Jersey and New York. I hear they are putting a mega 20-screen movie theatre in there so I kind of feel bad for all the movie theatres in the area.

njbeliever777 Mar 7, 2008 8:57 PM

eh i dont know if i like that ferris wheel. we will see what happens in the future. and i dont agree with your comment on its current looks. one its not done and 2 there are construction materials absolutely everywhere in that complex. hopefully it all looks good though cause im scared that people arent going to want to live around there anymore. seeing especially that they are building new homes as seen above

Thundertubs Mar 9, 2008 6:40 AM

Boo!!!
 
As a Bergen County native, I LOATHE this development. We already have malls coming out our ears. The last thing we need is more of this crap.
This monstrosity is being dropped on the doorstep of Bergen County, and no one wants it except the developers.
That awful pepsi wheel is from a galaxy of tackieness that my Jersey ass can't even fathom. I don't even think the most shameless Nevada tourist trap would want a giant glowing pepsi logo in thier town.
:yuck: ptooey!

Lecom Mar 9, 2008 7:27 PM

Good wheel design - Great Dubai wheel

http://www.gelderlander.nl/multimedi...7-_629575b.jpg

Can we in the US seriously not come up with anything better than this?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/data?p...d=i94BYnwKiW_c

It's sad when, of all places, Dubai is teaching us a lesson in classy developments.

NYC2ATX Mar 10, 2008 9:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lecom (Post 3404803)
Good wheel design - Great Dubai wheel

http://www.gelderlander.nl/multimedi...7-_629575b.jpg

Can we in the US seriously not come up with anything better than this?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/data?p...d=i94BYnwKiW_c

It's sad when, of all places, Dubai is teaching us a lesson in classy developments.

A- That Dubai Ferris Wheel is just as bad, if not even more hideous, than this Pepsi wheel. I mean, it looks like an homage to the cavemen who invented the wheel however many thousands of years ago.

B- While I don't think a Ferris Wheel will either contribute to or detract from this development, I think our consumer culture has gotten just about too out of control when we are erecting 287-foot PERMANENT Pepsi advertisements. :yuck:

njbeliever777 Mar 10, 2008 7:23 PM

i agree with you. they are both ugly. and yes its even more hideous with that pepsi sign. it doesnt need it. its only there cause this project needs more money to be completed. making it look more tacky. i really hope it comes out well

Dac150 Mar 10, 2008 8:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seat24inNJ (Post 3401161)
Uhhh its not close to being done yet. Another year and a half of construction will make anything look like shit.

Uhhh have you seen that facade? No matter what stage it is in construction, the facade that is completed shows that it will look like 'shit'.....:rolleyes:

Busy Bee Mar 11, 2008 2:27 AM

As far as the Pepsi wheel representing an "out of control consumer culture", I say that's nonsense. Since the age of the electric sign, signs of over the top scale have always existed, some still. Many became instant landmarks. They are a part of the urban environment. This Pepsi wheel is just taking it one step further. If the argument is that it's tacky—then maybe. But some things can and will become delightfully tacky. The setting also has a lot to do with it. No one would agree with this at the sight of the London Eye on the Thames, but at a sports complex next to the highway in the Meadowlands?... I'll take it.

NYguy Mar 11, 2008 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lecom (Post 3404803)
Good wheel design - Great Dubai wheel

http://www.gelderlander.nl/multimedi...7-_629575b.jpg

Can we in the US seriously not come up with anything better than this?.


I do hope you are joking...:lmao:

NYguy Mar 11, 2008 11:04 PM

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/200..._meadowla.html

Legoland moving in to Xanadu at Meadowlands

by Maura McDermott
March 10, 2008


The Xanadu retail/entertainment complex at the Meadowlands will include a Legoland Discovery Centre, developers announced today.

The 44,000-square-foot children's attraction will be a "virtual city" made out of colorful, interlocking blocks, with hands-on activities such as model building, rides, a cinema with special effects, party rooms and a cafe.

Currently the only Legoland in the United States is in Carlsbad, Calif. Other locations include Denmark, Germany and the United Kingdom.

The Legoland attraction will be run by Merlin Entertainments, which is also set to operate the Pepsi Globe observation wheel. Merlin is also the operator of the London Eye observation wheel in England.

Merlin's presence at the complex "affirms the attractiveness and magnetism of Meadowlands Xanadu," said Larry Siegel, president of Meadowlands Development, which is building the complex.

The $2 billion Xanadu complex is under construction at the Meadowlands Sports Complex, and it is due to open in November. It is being financed by Colony Capital, a private equity firm.

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http://www.businesswire.com/portal/s...79&newsLang=en

Merlin Entertainments to Open LEGOLAND Discovery Centre at Meadowlands Xanadu

March 10, 2008

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--LEGOLAND Discovery Centre, an indoor LEGO® world designed for families and children aged 2 to 12, will open its second and largest location in the USA at the spectacular Meadowlands Xanadu entertainment and retail complex, it was announced by Meadowlands Development, the developer of Meadowlands Xanadu and Merlin Entertainments today.

The UK-based visitor attraction operator will also lease and operate the spectacular Pepsi Globe observation wheel.

“We are delighted to welcome world renowned Merlin Entertainments to Meadowlands Xanadu,” said Larry Siegel, President of Meadowlands Development. “They have a special gift for magnificent attractions that combine fun and learning for children and families. They marked the centennial for the world with the opening of The London Eye, and will make their mark here operating the Pepsi Globe and launching their newest concept - LEGOLAND Discovery Centre. Their presence affirms the attractiveness and magnetism of Meadowlands Xanadu at the dynamic core of a population center of 18 million, expected to draw 50 million visitors annually.”

The 44,000-square-foot, interactive virtual city will feature a huge central iconic structure fabricated entirely of the iconic interlocking colored bricks; and activities ranging from hands-on LEGO play to life–sized LEGO adventures designed to provide hours of family entertainment centered around children.

The attraction will also combine LEGO model building and unusual construction challenges with theme park-like attractions such as a dragon ride, adventure trail, and 4D cinema incorporating fantastical LEGO creatures and LEGO-based special effects. Other highlights will include a DUPLO play area for younger children, birthday party rooms, a LEGO café, a LEGO store, and a special room with rotating exhibitions of work by master LEGO builders.


The world famous London Eye is that city’s most popular tourist attraction and under Merlin’s aegis the 287-foot high Pepsi Globe promises to be among the most outstanding tourist attractions in the metropolitan region.

“Merlin Entertainments is currently opening five or six new attractions every year around the world, and the attractions at Meadowlands Xanadu will be important additions to our portfolio,” said Nick Varney, Chief Executive, Merlin Entertainments. “As the leading operator in Europe, we see enormous potential for our high quality attraction brands in the US – all of which are based on a strategy of ‘fun-learning’ and we look forward to enormous success at Meadowlands Xanadu.”

ABOUT MEADOWLANDS XANADU

Meadowlands Xanadu, under construction in the heart of the NY/NJ metropolitan region, will feature approximately 2.3 million square feet of unique entertainment, interactive attractions, sports and retail unlike any other in the world.

The $2 billion complex features five themed districts, Sports, Entertainment, Youth Culture, Food & Home and Fashion, providing a wide variety of experiences catering to different lifestyles and interests.

The spectacular complex in the New Jersey Meadowlands will be home to North America’s largest climate controlled Ferris wheel, The Pepsi Globe, offering breathtaking views of the Manhattan skyline and northern New Jersey. The top-of-the line retail stores, gourmet restaurants, America’s first indoor snow dome, a skydiving tower, multiple movie theaters, a concert and live theater venue and much more will be set in a high-energy, media-rich environment.

Meadowlands Xanadu is a unique destination that will redefine leisure time. It will be a stage where brands, entertainment and technology join to create larger than life experiences. Meadowlands Xanadu is being developed by Meadowlands Development whose investors include Colony Capital, The Dune Real Estate Funds and KanAm.

njbeliever777 Mar 12, 2008 12:40 AM

wow that sounds cool. im glad this place will at least break records around the world for malls and will have stuff that will make people want to come to jersey

NYC2ATX Mar 12, 2008 9:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 3407745)
As far as the Pepsi wheel representing an "out of control consumer culture", I say that's nonsense. Since the age of the electric sign, signs of over the top scale have always existed, some still. Many became instant landmarks. They are a part of the urban environment. This Pepsi wheel is just taking it one step further. If the argument is that it's tacky—then maybe. But some things can and will become delightfully tacky. The setting also has a lot to do with it. No one would agree with this at the sight of the London Eye on the Thames, but at a sports complex next to the highway in the Meadowlands?... I'll take it.

Maybe "out-of-control consumer culture" was a bit exaggerated. We do live in a country built on capitalism after all. Still though, this is not even attractive advertising, for me it would be an eyesore, in Times Square, on the Thames River, or next to the Jersey Turnpike, it really doesn't matter. I'd take the "Pepsi-Cola" sign on the Queens waterfront over this anyday.

Speaking of the London Eye, I wouldn't mind that in place of this wheel. What about the wheel at Navy Pier in Chicago? Come on people, we can do better....

MolsonExport Mar 13, 2008 2:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StatenIslander237 (Post 3405898)
A- That Dubai Ferris Wheel is just as bad, if not even more hideous, than this Pepsi wheel. I mean, it looks like an homage to the cavemen who invented the wheel however many thousands of years ago.

B- While I don't think a Ferris Wheel will either contribute to or detract from this development, I think our consumer culture has gotten just about too out of control when we are erecting 287-foot PERMANENT Pepsi advertisements. :yuck:

That pepsi wheel is undoubtedly the most appalling thing that I've ever seen.

NYguy Mar 13, 2008 6:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport (Post 3412510)
That pepsi wheel is undoubtedly the most appalling thing that I've ever seen.

Really? Of all the horrors out there, this is it?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/data?p...d=i94BYnwKiW_c

It's not a great rendering, that's for sure. But we're talking Xanadu in the Meadowlands. It's meant to be a bit "cheesy". It could become as iconic for that complex as the Coke sign is for Times Square.

Dannyboy25 Mar 13, 2008 5:56 PM

To be honest, I live in Bergen County and I think the entire Xanadu Project is pretty disgusting. This is like the icing on the cake.

Scruffy May 7, 2008 12:39 AM

So i had to commandeer a vehicle to finally see this thing in person after so many years. now i am excited for what will be inside, but GOOD GOD its so UGLY!! That render does not do justice to all the clashing styles and multicolored facades. UGH. The person I was with tried reasoning with me that I'm being premature and that it will look better once its painted. When I told her that was the final paint job, her face was priceless. I could not see the beginnings of a ferris wheel yet so that has yet to be built.

njbeliever777 May 8, 2008 9:55 PM

yeah it really does look really ugly. i liked when they first came out with it that it was nice glass. now its horrendous. hopefully the inside will be better ;]

bbeliko May 15, 2008 4:45 AM

i've been following this development for quite a long time, it's good to see it progressing, BUT a Pepsi Ferris Wheel, i mean i'm sure there are better logos (if they have so much need for one)

NYC2ATX May 15, 2008 4:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbeliko (Post 3553650)
i've been following this development for quite a long time, it's good to see it progressing, BUT a Pepsi Ferris Wheel, i mean i'm sure there are better logos (if they have so much need for one)

Trust me, no Ferris Wheel NEEDS a ginormous logo on it. :yuck:

Jibba May 15, 2008 6:22 AM

Everytime I see this thread I keep thinking that it is some kind of Citizen Kane amusement park or something. I am glad to find out that it is an out-of-control mall with a giant Pepsi sign and an indoor ski hill. As long as you are going to build a mall you might as well go all out and make something crazy and huge like this. All we have near Chicago is Woodfield which is pretty lame, but it's not like I want anything better because I tend to stay as far away as I can from places like this.

njbeliever777 May 15, 2008 11:52 PM

this place is going to be insane with people once it opens. the meadowlands will always be packed and i expect long long long lines for everything they have inside

Scruffy May 18, 2008 4:10 AM

not for a while. official news, Xanadu's opening pushed back to Summer 2009 instead of this November

Scruffy May 18, 2008 4:11 AM

Newsday

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. - The developer of the Xanadu project in the Meadowlands says they're postponing its opening until next summer.

The massive, $2 billion retail and entertainment complex was to have opened this November.

Xanadu President Larry Siegel said delaying the opening will help meet the timetables of the building's tenants. The complex is to feature a 200-foot-high indoor snow dome, a movie complex, concert space and an upscale martini lounge and bowling alley.

The delay means a $185 million NJ Transit rail link to the Meadowlands should be completed by the time Xanadu opens.

njbeliever777 May 18, 2008 3:36 PM

thats a long time from now. but it gives them time to make it better haha

Dac150 May 18, 2008 4:47 PM

I always think of 'Citizen Kane' whenever I hear about this project. Why Xanadu? What's the meaning in relation to this project? I know in the movie the name was attributed to Kane's 'pleasure palace', but I see no pleasure when I see this building. Yet another disaster to be showcased on the Jersey Turnpike.

Dannyboy25 May 18, 2008 5:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dac150 (Post 3560100)
I always think of 'Citizen Kane' whenever I hear about this project. Why Xanadu? What's the meaning in relation to this project? I know in the movie the name was attributed to Kane's 'pleasure palace', but I see no pleasure when I see this building. Yet another disaster to be showcased on the Jersey Turnpike.

I could not agree more. This project is awful.

njbeliever777 May 20, 2008 1:49 AM

it really was a fantastic idea with all the great technology and stuff but now it seems to jsut be another ugly useless mall with some cool stuff

photoLith Oct 17, 2008 1:19 AM

Wow that ferris wheel is the most crass use of advertising ever, its despicable.

NYguy Sep 21, 2009 1:06 PM

This has been under the radar for a while, but just heard this is on hold now indefinitely...more details later.

Rail>Auto Sep 22, 2009 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 4466574)
This has been under the radar for a while, but just heard this is on hold now indefinitely...more details later.

I hate to hear that....seemed like a good idea to me... I also hope they find a way to keep the IZOD Center up once the Nets depart for wherever.. It may not be the best but I hate to see any NBA arena get torn down... Not to mention there were Finals played there among many other things..

If the ferris wheel is up yet, did they change the pepsi logo to the new logo? Personally I like the idea of the Pepsi logo....keeps it from looking like all the other ferris wheels and it generates profit for this project.

NYC4Life Sep 22, 2009 9:50 AM

Not a surprise. A mega-project originally scheduled to open in 2007, now at least 2 years behind schedule.

jamesinclair Oct 2, 2009 1:36 AM

Last month from the highway

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17...r/IMG_2858.jpg

millertime83 Oct 27, 2009 1:04 PM

Here's are two shots from March. (Nothing has really changed much since then)
http://imgur.com/HU7NM.jpg
http://imgur.com/SSiyf.jpg

blorkishdork Oct 27, 2009 4:46 PM

This place is absolutely hideous, I've driven by it several times having no idea what it is... why would they ever do such a thing?

Seat24inNJ Oct 27, 2009 5:45 PM

I live pretty close to the complex and I drive by it alot on my way to work .. I remember seeing a quote in the paper one day from an executive of the project and he said... "Dont judge the colors just yet, let it sit in for a while...When its done youll appreciate the clash of colors." .. I"m not appreciating anything


Obviously the interior of this place will be the end all - be all of this construction project / idea, but my goodness.....The Plaid colors on the outside of this place are just so ridiculously hideous. I mean I just dont understand what was going thru the minds of the designers when they said... lets make it look like something from the 70s show.

NYguy Oct 28, 2009 8:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seat24inNJ (Post 4526697)
I live pretty close to the complex and I drive by it alot on my way to work .. I remember seeing a quote in the paper one day from an executive of the project and he said... "Dont judge the colors just yet, let it sit in for a while...When its done youll appreciate the clash of colors." .. I"m not appreciating anything.

I don't know what they were going for. Maybe when it finally opens (who knows when) and develops its own atmosphere it won't seem as horrible. But its pretty horrible looking now.

NYC2ATX Oct 29, 2009 8:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lecom (Post 3404803)

Hahahaha I just realized something. I remember going on a rant about this shitty Pepsi wheel last year (bottom of page 1 of this thread) but now that Pepsi has changed it's logo...I think it's time for an updated rendering. :haha: ....and which logo will they use, now that it's varied. The main logo? the diet logo? I like the Pepsi Max one the best because it's got the biggest smile. Maybe it can hypnotize people into smiling when they see the outside of the mall itself. :P


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