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Illithid Dude Oct 24, 2012 5:20 AM

LOS ANGELES | Hollywood Center | FT | 46 + 35 FLOORS (1,005 Units)
 
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8053/8...b60d4a07_b.jpg

Lot of controversy around this one, mostly focusing on view cones and overshadowing landmarks (Capital Records Tower). Curbed LA Reports:

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2012/1...ol_records.php

Quote:

The (conceptual!) plan is to build two towers on 4.47 acres "using the Capitol Records Tower as a centerpiece"; they'll hold "approximately 492 residential units, 200 luxury hotel rooms, 250,000 square feet of Class A office space including Capitol Records and the Gogerty Building, 35,000 square feet of restaurant space, 40,000 square feet of sports club use, and 15,000 square feet of retail space." Millenium Hollywood will also include about 2,000 parking spaces in eight levels of above-ground parking (in podiums at the bottom of the buildings) and up to three levels of below-ground parking. (The project will replace multiple surface parking lots.)
Depending on neighborhood and official reactions, this project may become shorter. It would be, after all, the tallest tower in the area by a good 250 Ft.

http://millenniumhollywood.net/

blackcat23 Oct 24, 2012 5:31 AM

Taller building looks about 50 stories.

Yeah, I can see these getting shrunk a bit to satisfy the NIMBYs. Still would be a very substantial development, though. Nice to hear they managed to get Capitol Records on board with the project. Last I'd heard they were against the high rise proposal.

Would also like to see them finish the plans for the adjacent Pantages Theater that were proposed before the economic downturn.

Quixote Oct 24, 2012 5:51 AM

This is the type of project that can really jumpstart activity in a neighborhood brimming with potential. A 6-story stucco mid-rise won't have the same effect. I say yes to this project in its current iteration.

Mojeda101 Oct 24, 2012 6:34 AM

It's one of the only times I would actually prefer something shorter. It's just too tall. If they're building something of this height, might as well be in downtown. I feel something along 32 stories would suit the area better.

LMich Oct 24, 2012 7:20 AM

Oh, this is nice. That's a quality project, right there. I, too, wouldn't mind them being brought down a few stories.

arkitekte Oct 24, 2012 2:13 PM

I don't mind either one, but I'm a huge fan of the Capital Records Tower, so I hope they're shortened some. Either way, its nice to see some surface lots disappear and these will add density.

KevinFromTexas Oct 24, 2012 9:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LMich (Post 5877603)
Oh, this is nice. That's a quality project, right there. I, too, wouldn't mind them being brought down a few stories.

Yeah, I'm no Nimby, but come on, that's the Capitol Records Building next door.

I was reading up on the Capitol Records Building. It was built in 1956. The height restriction in that area is 150 feet, or was. The spire atop the Capitol Records Building flashes out the message "Hollywood" in morse code.

NYguy Oct 24, 2012 9:36 PM

Reminds me of that battle on Conan...(watch the video in the link)


http://curbed.com/uploads/Screen-sho...8.50.13-AM.jpg
http://curbed.com/archives/2011/11/1...conan.php#more

Quixote Oct 30, 2012 5:54 AM

Another (much better) design:

http://la.curbed.com/uploads/2012-10...ol_records.JPG

LosAngelesSportsFan Oct 30, 2012 6:49 AM

i think if someone can put together a rendering of the Hollywood skyline with maybe 4 or 5 more 300 - 500 footers, it would make this look much more fitting. i personally have no problem with this proposed project, but it would be interesting to see the potential

Mojeda101 Oct 30, 2012 7:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LosAngelesSportsFan (Post 5884758)
i think if someone can put together a rendering of the Hollywood skyline with maybe 4 or 5 more 300 - 500 footers, it would make this look much more fitting. i personally have no problem with this proposed project, but it would be interesting to see the potential

That being the case, I suppose I wouldn't mind. Could be another Century City type of skyline. Problem being the demand and the location. Wish it were so simple.

blackcat23 Jan 20, 2013 7:40 AM

Rendering of the proposal from a different angle.

http://millenniumhollywood.net/wp-co...1187710998.jpg

Quixote Jan 20, 2013 11:35 AM

Still not bothered by the scale although I'm not at all a fan of the above design.

caltrane74 Jan 20, 2013 1:32 PM

What is with height freaks in LA?

This is a great way to bring lots of people into the core. NIMBY's can sit on it.

blackcat23 Jan 20, 2013 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caltrane74 (Post 5980606)
What is with height freaks in LA?

This is a great way to bring lots of people into the core. NIMBY's can sit on it.

Part of it is people stuck in the 1950's, scared of height.

The other aspect is parking. There's a 20 story proposal for the corner of Hollywood and Gower that hasn't been been able to get off the ground because the neighbors have sued over the plans supposedly not including enough parking.

Either way, the neighborhood around Hollywood and Vine is going to develop nicely in the coming years. Lots of quality mixed-use projects in the pipeline, with several 20ish floor residential buildings planned or under construction.

aquablue Jan 20, 2013 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackcat23 (Post 5981112)
Part of it is people stuck in the 1950's, scared of height.

The other aspect is parking. There's a 20 story proposal for the corner of Hollywood and Gower that hasn't been been able to get off the ground because the neighbors have sued over the plans supposedly not including enough parking.

Either way, the neighborhood around Hollywood and Vine is going to develop nicely in the coming years. Lots of quality mixed-use projects in the pipeline, with several 20ish floor residential buildings planned or under construction.

Terrible, I can't believe that. :koko:

LosAngelesSportsFan Jan 21, 2013 4:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackcat23 (Post 5981112)
Part of it is people stuck in the 1950's, scared of height.

The other aspect is parking. There's a 20 story proposal for the corner of Hollywood and Gower that hasn't been been able to get off the ground because the neighbors have sued over the plans supposedly not including enough parking.

Either way, the neighborhood around Hollywood and Vine is going to develop nicely in the coming years. Lots of quality mixed-use projects in the pipeline, with several 20ish floor residential buildings planned or under construction.

its not neighbors, its that asshole lawyer and that bullshit home owners association that greenwash every development in town. They should all be prosecuted and thrown in jail for all these frivolous lawsuits and damages. its unbelievable.

blackcat23 Jan 21, 2013 7:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LosAngelesSportsFan (Post 5981435)
its not neighbors, its that asshole lawyer and that bullshit home owners association that greenwash every development in town. They should all be prosecuted and thrown in jail for all these frivolous lawsuits and damages. its unbelievable.

Ah, I didn't remember specifically what the situation was.

After looking the article up on Curbed again, I realized it's the same group profiled a couple weeks back for essentially blackmailing developers.

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2013/0...ers_1.php#more

The La Mirada Avenue Homeowners Association.

blackcat23 Feb 20, 2013 2:37 AM

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2013/0...d_towers_1.php

Planning Department has recommended the project for approval. Next up is approval from the Planning Commission.

blacktrojan3921 Feb 20, 2013 7:32 AM

Yeah, Los Angeles has this huge of a problem because of the California Environmental Quality Act; specifically "In other states and under NEPA [a federal law similar to CEQA], if your interests are primarily economic, you cannot sue under an environmental statute ... California has gone in a remarkably different direction." Ironically according to that Curbed article blackcat posted, most of these lawsuits have nothing to do with the environment and are often abused :shrug:.


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