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HossC Nov 5, 2014 2:18 AM

:previous:

From left to right, the buildings are the Trenton at 427 S Olive, furnished rooms belonging to Mrs Elizabeth Collier at 422 S Grand, the St Clair/Sinclair Apartments at 414 S Grand, the Rose Mansion (the Victorian) at 4th and Grand, and the Fremont at 401 S Olive.

Godzilla Nov 5, 2014 3:00 AM

Thank you :previous:


Quote:

Originally Posted by LAboomer52 (Post 5231813)
Some fotos of the "Bryn Mawr" housing development below and around the dam in the hollywood hills. Bryn Mawr Drive is off Holly drive.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics42/00070842.jpgLAPL
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics39/00039195.jpgLAPL

LA Times article on 11/15/1925 tell that "the street lights in Bryn Mawr will light up tonight for the first time". The development was owned by George Newberger and developed by R.W. Neiswendler. The article brags of home lots with views of Catalina, Long Beach and Venice, and Hollywood at night like a "twinkling like a sea of stars" and by day a "beautiful garden".

LA Times article in 1891 describes "Bryn Mawr" as a new style of architecture in homes that uses natural materials like wood, brink and stone("no disgusting paint or plaster"), and features turrets, shingles, colored roofs,and red brick chimneys. Maybe the tract was named thusly?? The article states that " Los Angeles is far ahead of San Fransisco in the individuality of it's architecture."




I believe the original post that may have mentioned Bryn Mawr has disappeared from NLA.



April 2, 1924 - Hollywood.
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Looking for information on this cloistered group of eight Hollywood bungalows. Or is it two Barns or Cape Cod style structures and six bungalows?
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Palmer Photoplay, 6362 Hollywood.
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MartinTurnbull Nov 5, 2014 4:58 AM

Like, oops
 
Here's my question:
Exactly how fast do you have to be driving in order to jump the freeway divider?

This is the 5 Freeway (Santa Ana) near the Atlantic Blvd exit, right near what is now the Citadel Outlet Mall.


http://www.martinturnbull.com/wp-con...drail19401.jpg

so-cal-bear Nov 5, 2014 2:32 PM

And that lady is still holding on to her cigarette between her fingers there inspecting her? car there. (hand on car) Oh the style of the time and cigarette smoke stench that I don't miss at all! ;)

austlar1 Nov 5, 2014 8:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by so-cal-bear (Post 6795660)
And that lady is still holding on to her cigarette between her fingers there inspecting her? car there. (hand on car) Oh the style of the time and cigarette smoke stench that I don't miss at all! ;)

I feel sorry for her. She looks quite worried. Maybe it is her boyfriend's car. I used to have a car similar to that one. It was a V8 Fairlane 500. I loved that car.

BifRayRock Nov 5, 2014 8:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5683034)
There is only vague information for this photograph from http://www.lapl.org/

http://imageshack.us/a/img823/3838/5...urtisthata.jpg


http://imageshack.us/a/img402/1291/5152infom.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=74224

After a little research: The photo is of 5152 La Vista Court looking west toward Clune Studios (now Raleigh Studios)
on Van Ness Avenue just south of Melrose.

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Clune Studios, a little history.


Quote:

1914 Fiction Players company built the first studios on this spot where they fabricated nondescript films.

1915 Fiction Players purchased by Famous Players, the New York-based film company helmed by Adolph Zukor. Zukor made the studios his western headquarters, dispatching to the studio Mary Pickford who was already in Los Angeles to star in “A Girl from Yesterday.” In making this aviation picture, airplanes landed in a field at Bronson and Melrose.

1915 The sinking of the Lusitania, taking with it Charles Froman, a major theatrical backer as well as a backer of Famous Players. At this point, Zukor returned all production from the West Coast to New York.

Clune Studio 1916
Enter William H. Clune, owner of theaters and Philharmonic Auditorium downtown. Clune purchased the studio, renaming it as Clune Studio. On that site Clune produced the second “Ramona” filmed in 1915.

1917 War in in Europe. Clune starts to lease to Paralta, independent producers creating movies related to WWI. Other production companies doing serials there.

1919 After the war, Doug Fairbanks formed United Artists, he moved in and took it over as Douglas Fairbanks studio, there shooting The Three Musketeers and the Mark of Zorro among others.

1922 Fairbanks asks Clune to purchase studio; Clune refuses, Fairbanks departs amicably with Mary Pickford, together purchasing studio at LaBrea and Santa Monica, which became Pickford-Fairbanks Studios.

1925 Tec Art, from New York shows up and makes deal to build enclosed stages and operate for Mr. Clune.

1926 Sound revolution has begun, by 1927, after The Jazz Singer, Tec Art decides to build sound stages and outfit entire studio for sound, to the delight of Clune.The first tenant to build a sound department, maintaining and sound theater, sound equipment was Roy Disney. Disney studio was in East Hollywood but brought one of their inking units to Clune Studio. Early Mickey Mouse movies inked there.

1927 Tec Art brings in Inspiration Pictures and builds them an administration bulding on Clinton street on the south side of the studio. A Spanish-style building was built with the reverse side a hacienda set, the other side of the office building used in the second Ramona (they just found this film).

1929 Clune dies at 58. His family makes a deal with USC, who administrator the Clune Memorial Trust all the way until 1979 when it was sold to Raleigh Enterprises. http://artsmeme.com/2014/04/23/photo...leigh-studios/




Available on Blueray and Beta?


1915 - Clune Studios, shooting "Ramona."
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1916 - Ramona, Get your tickets early!

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1916 - Clune
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/Clune-Studio-1916.jpg



Another Iowa picnic?





1918 - Clune co. (Unclear that Clune is in this photo. Possibly at far left? Is that a left fist or a shrunken head? :koko:)
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Clune in 1930
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1927 Tec Art/ Clune
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1915 - J. Clune residence 1424 W. 8th Street

1930 - J.Walter Clune
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ethereal_reality Nov 5, 2014 10:29 PM

:previous: Very interesting history of Clune Studios BRR.


I'm hoping someone can dig up a larger scan of this 1922 map. (I don't believe we've seen it before on NLA)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/633/bA0L6y.jpg
http://metroprimaryresources.info/19...or-relief/281/

"Grade Crossing Elimination and Union Depot Plan" 1922
Is that two side-by-side roundhouses east of the L.A. River? (I can only read a few of the captions)

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ethereal_reality Nov 5, 2014 11:42 PM

Heavy March rains and a sink-hole, 1938.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/jBEZf9.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/904/tOMsji.jpg
ebay

So what is the building with the dome? I'm trying to locate this spot on GSV.

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ethereal_reality Nov 5, 2014 11:50 PM

A couple of racially insensitive ads.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...661/hIxFzS.jpghttp://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/uqCuGR.jpg
ebay

inside of matchbook
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/901/oP3gvP.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/BCzkLz.jpg
ebay


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ethereal_reality Nov 6, 2014 12:07 AM

Hand-painted photograph showing a flapper-type girl posing on a car bumper in the Santa Monica Mountains, 1920s

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/TBnLx7.jpg
ebay
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HossC Nov 6, 2014 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6796633)
Heavy March rains and a sink-hole, 1938.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/jBEZf9.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/904/tOMsji.jpg
ebay

So what is the building with the dome? I'm trying to locate this spot on GSV.

The domed building is King's Tropical Inn. GW posted the picture below - the full post, containing other pictures of King's Tropical Inn, can be found here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5703322)


Other posts about King's Tropical Inn:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8536

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=21610

HossC Nov 6, 2014 1:10 AM

Farewell to Little Tokyo 3/28/42.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...DrugStore1.jpg
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...DrugStore2.jpg
eBay

According to the 1942 CD, Mr and Mrs Katsujiro Iseri lived at 3504 Folsom Street. The property websites say the current house at that address was built in 1912. The Iseri's drug store was at 305 E 1st Street. Most of the buildings on that side of the block look like they've been there a while - could this be the Iseris' drug store?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...DrugStore3.jpg
GSV

MartinTurnbull Nov 6, 2014 5:30 AM

Hollywood Roosevelt Plaza Hotels, 1941
 
The front of this building says "Hollywood Roosevelt Plaza Hotels" and yet it's clearly not part of the Roosevelt Hotel on Hollywood Blvd.

A streetcar is running past it, but it might be Hollywood Blvd, but has anybody seen this before?

The notation on this puts this at Highland and Cahuenga, which I guess is approximately outside the entrance to the Hollywood Bowl...?

http://www.martinturnbull.com/wp-con...ene-Lentz1.jpg

http://www.martinturnbull.com/wp-con...Lentz-copy.jpg

For those of you interested in Hollywood history, apparently costume designed Irene Lentz (more commonly known simply as Irene) had a shop in this complex for a while.

Otis Criblecoblis Nov 6, 2014 6:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 6796302)
Clune Studios, a little history.








Available on Blueray and Beta?


1915 - Clune Studios, shooting "Ramona."
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...C43D8XCFFV.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...C43D8XCFFV.jpg



BifRayRock, this is one of the most fascinating and relevatory posts I've read here, and I've read everything. I'd known Clune was a producer for a time, but I had NO IDEA he'd been so involved in elemental Hollywood history.

Thanks sincerely for your marvelous post.

Joe Gillis Nov 6, 2014 7:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 6791412)
More of the French Village at approximately 2400 N. Highland.



Before the Hollywood Freeway another fascinating interchange.



~1938 , Southern portion of Cahuenga Pass in foreground and crossing to the left. Highland Ave to the right. Hollywood Bowl is around the bend to the right.
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:previous: Were the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel and Plaza Hotel (1637 N Vine) or Park Plaza Hotel affiliated sister hotels?


1637 N Vine, former home of the "It Cafe." Currently a hostel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 6791825)

MartinTurnbull Knew I'd seen the Roosevelt Plaza Hotel in a recent post! sorry I cant quite work out how to do that post quoting thing without showing the whole of it

BifRayRock Nov 6, 2014 4:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otis Criblecoblis (Post 6797064)
BifRayRock, this is one of the most fascinating and relevatory posts I've read here, and I've read everything. I'd known Clune was a producer for a time, but I had NO IDEA he'd been so involved in elemental Hollywood history.

:)





With such large signage, it is doubtful that entrepreneur, William "Billy" Clune, wished to go unnoticed.



From the Historic LA Theaters' site:
Quote:

"Clune's electrical display on this theatre was a real achievement. The theater had entrances on both streets and over both entrances were built gorgeous electric signs that cost many thousand dollars. The interior of this theater, I have been told, would be hard to improve upon even today. It was most beautifully appointed and unusually comfortable, with wide, luxurious seats.

This theater made W.H. Clune famous from coast to coast and was a a continued success and a veritable gold mine for four years, when the lease expired and the building was razed to make room for the present twelve-story Rosslyn Hotel." https://sites.google.com/site/downto...theatres/clune
Clune's post card
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1912 - Clune's
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Yes a repost of this wonderful image.
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BifRayRock Nov 6, 2014 4:39 PM






On the subject of larger than large personalities and signage, it may be worth remembering another proponent of electric light, Tally's. Also an excuse to repost the large image at the bottom with a fleeting glimpse of Tally's.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 5166881)
The Tallys at 833 South Broadway:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5140/...5c340ab0_o.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5099/...00ce3d82_o.jpg

Electrified ad astra at some point later:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5213/...4e182d2e_o.jpg


She may be best remembered here -- don't get me wrong, with good reason, to the legion who discover her through Lloyd's work. Note how the building to her north in the original image is replaced by a kind of pitch-roofed Norman deal not too long after.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5056/...7dc35b39_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5175/...124c26c5_o.jpg

(Now, let's be quite effing clear right off the bat, lads. We're not speaking of Tally's New Broadway. She of 544. No.)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5051/...63ed79ce_o.jpg
That's a whole 'nother discussion into which we'll get into soon I'm certain, or at least I hope...

photo credits http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater2/00015469.jpg http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater2/00015464.jpg http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater2/00015466.jpg http://www.doctormacro.com/Images/Ll...Last%29_01.jpg http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/...and=calisphere


Tally's is at the far left in this impressive image.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 5786688)
A view of Eight street, circa 1920, that may not have been posted here before:
http://www.photographium.com/sites/d...rnia._1920.jpg http://www.photographium.com/8th-str...alifornia-1920



As a not-so-subtle reminder, there really is a lot of great reference material in this thread. :hi: http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...postcount=2878

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ConstructDTLA Nov 6, 2014 5:34 PM

Mandela near 7th & Olive (now Soi 7) - 1937 vs Now:

http://southonspring.com/wp-content/...-1937-LAPL.png

http://southonspring.com/wp-content/...andel-2014.jpg

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HossC Nov 6, 2014 6:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6796540)

I'm hoping someone can dig up a larger scan of this 1922 map. (I don't believe we've seen it before on NLA)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/633/bA0L6y.jpg
http://metroprimaryresources.info/19...or-relief/281/

"Grade Crossing Elimination and Union Depot Plan" 1922
Is that two side-by-side roundhouses east of the L.A. River? (I can only read a few of the captions)

While looking for a larger version of e_r's map, I came across a huge circa 1920 report titled 'Railroad Grade Crossing Elimination and Passenger and Freight Terminals
in Los Angeles' - you can find it on archive.org. The full report is around 600 pages long, and it's packed with information, statistics, photos and diagrams. I've
picked out a selection of photos and diagrams for this post, although I may revisit the report at a later date. I'm sure other members will be able to pull completely
different information and images from the same document.

Despite searching the report a couple of times, I can't see the map above. The one below is the nearest I could find.
NB. I've kept most of the following images fairly large to try and preserve the legibility of the captions. Some of them have had their levels tweaked for clarity.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
archive.org

It may be hard to see on the map above, but one of the proposed locations for Union Station was west of Alameda Street, directly on top of the Plaza. The detail below
shows the old Plaza location under the platforms, while a New Plaza would be built to the south. The southwest corner of the New Plaza would have extended nearly to
the future site of the new City Hall. Macy Street would be elevated over the tracks and join up to the Broadway tunnel. It looks like Olvera Street, Pico House and the
Brunswig building were due to be obliterated instead of Chinatown.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
archive.org

Here's an artist's impression of how the new station and plaza would look.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
archive.org

Another idea had the new station roughly where it was eventually built, although with the platforms running parallel to Aliso Street. The terminal building seems to bisect
Alameda Street, and the Plaza also gets a redesign.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
archive.org

Yet another scheme involved building the new terminal at the Arcade Depot site, and included a radial design for the New Plaza.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original
archive.org

Have we seen this station before? Its caption says it was the first Los Angeles railroad station, located at Commercial and Alameda Streets.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original
archive.org

This station has definitely appeared before - BifRayRock posted an aerial view of Salt Lake Station in post #7837, and noted that it was "awfully
close to the LA River"
. In fact it was on the east bank of the LA River, directly south of First Street. I think the station was being demolished in
BifRayRock's picture, because the roof details have all gone. You can see a streetcar heading for the station in post #14469 by Chuckaluck.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original
archive.org

Martin Pal Nov 6, 2014 6:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinTurnbull (Post 6797036)
The front of this building says "Hollywood Roosevelt Plaza Hotels" and yet it's clearly not part of the Roosevelt Hotel on Hollywood Blvd.

A streetcar is running past it, but it might be Hollywood Blvd, but has anybody seen this before?

The notation on this puts this at Highland and Cahuenga, which I guess is approximately outside the entrance to the Hollywood Bowl...?

http://www.martinturnbull.com/wp-con...Lentz-copy.jpg

I'm guessing this location is an elaborate neon billboard. (I'm assuming it is neon.) There's an arrow under Roosevelt, indicating the direction to that hotel (down Highland) and another arrow under Plaza indicating to go down Cahuenga toward where that hotel is located.

BifRayRock Nov 6, 2014 7:31 PM








As noted in the earlier post, The French Village was at the 2400 Block of Highland. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=24458


Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 6747219)

Quote:

This windshield view looking north on Highland at Cahuenga captures a woman holding a dog in her lap in the passenger seat, two police officers speaking to two different cars at a police checkpoint, and surrounding businesses like the Los Angeles Pet Cemetery (2500 North Highland) and signs including a Coca Cola billboard. This area has changed due to the 101 freeway.
1938 - Police Checkpoint. (Not clear what is being checked, sobriety?)
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1938 - Cahuenga Coca Cola, "The Berries."
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1939 Cahuenga Pass or soon-to-be named Hollywood Freeway
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1939 - Cahuenga - Highland construction, wide shot
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Related: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=24498





Martin Pal Nov 6, 2014 8:07 PM

Little newsie with big news...

http://www.theblackdahliainhollywood...es/Newsboy.jpghttp://www.thebdih.com/wp-content/uploads/sidebar_pictures/Newsboy.jpg

Cohenite...:sly:

ethereal_reality Nov 6, 2014 8:15 PM

:previous: "Little newsie with big news." :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6797586)
The 1920 'Railroad Grade Crossing Elimination and Passenger and Freight Terminals
in Los Angeles' - you can find it on archive.org. The full report is around 600 pages long, and it's packed with information, statistics, photos and diagrams.

Excellent find HossC. What a wealth of information!

Here's a couple more diagrams.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/6v5kA6.jpg
https://archive.org/stream/railroadg...ge/n5/mode/2up



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/674/gvPUPL.jpg
https://archive.org/stream/railroadg...ge/n5/mode/2up
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Godzilla Nov 6, 2014 8:19 PM

~1929 - Wilson Drug Co. - 100 S Vermont Ave. (Per '29 CD another at 3526 W. Washington)
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics37/00068475.jpghttp://jpg3.lapl.org/pics37/00068475.jpg




Late '20s - Drug store, Washington Blvd. and Western. Now a mini-mall mecca.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics37/00068451.jpghttp://jpg3.lapl.org/pics37/00068451.jpg



Undated - Sun Drugs - Hollywood and Cahuenga (6384 Hollywood Blvd.)
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011322.jpghttp://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011322.jpg



(Early '20s?) Sun Drugs, 561 S Broadway In the '23 Directory there are at least 20 listed Sun Drug Stores
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics17/00008050.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/pics17/00008050.jpg

sadykadie2 Nov 7, 2014 2:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido (Post 6793305)
Sorry to belabor that "May be stick to the buildings ?" (by Presarch #24308) but I anticipate that this recurring issue will sooner or later come back from other new-comers who are expecting a straight variation of the SkyscraperForum.
Rather than arguing, I guess the best will be to refer them to the inaugural posts of the thread : p. 2 #34 Sopas takes the initiative of posting only cars and #37 Ethereal welcomes these photos by... posting cars ; p.3 #43 Sopas posts a broad assortment of criminal photographs and #47 Ethereal adds Mickey Cohen's armoured car.

Posting only buildings would tell only 1/2 of the story!

sadykadie2 Nov 7, 2014 2:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6791769)
This is as close as I could get to the same camera position. As Godzilla noted, it's now a parking lot. The Standard Oil service station's address was 2525 Wilshire Boulevard.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ilStation1.jpg
GSV

The USC photoset also includes the image below. At first I thought it was another view of the service station above, but then I noticed a sign saying "W. EIGHT...".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ilStation2.jpg
USC Digital Library

Unfortunately, the other street name was unreadable. Standard Oil had a service station at 2100 W 8th Street, and the slope on S Alvarado initially seemed about right. There's even an extant apartment building at the top of the street with similar windows, but I eventually concluded that it wasn't a match. That only left 3029 W 8th Street, which luckily turned out to be the one in the image above. The picture shows the corner of S New Hampshire Avenue. The building just visible on the left is the former Hotel Mayan. I wrote about it in post #22901 - the first picture even shows a small piece of the service station.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ilStation3.jpg
GSV

GREAT before and afters! You rock, Hoss!:worship:

sadykadie2 Nov 7, 2014 3:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6785248)
The LAPD pistol team puts on a demonstration at the Auto Club headquarters in 1934. Looks like the audience is having some laughs.

The cop was aiming at the saucers the man is holding. I wonder if they do this stunt today?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psa54392ff.jpg
SCAC

they probably still do this stunt, but the plates are in the officer's teeth:koko:

sadykadie2 Nov 7, 2014 3:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 6783967)
...unless you are a dedicated Hawkeye...or a real masochist.


http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps596d0348.jpg
L.A. Times

Iowa state picnics in Los Angeles County
Posted By: Scott Harrison
Posted On: 12:15 a.m. | October 24, 2014
During the first half of the 20th century, state picnics were a Southern California fixture. The Iowa state picnics – held twice a year – were the biggest. Crowds of 100,000 were common. That size crowd was reported in the Los Angeles Times for picnics held on Aug. 10, 1935, and Feb. 29, 1936. The large crowds lasted into the 1950s, but dwindled afterward.


We discussed the Iowa State picnics here about a year and a half ago and I'm sure everyone is just itching for more.


OK, here is the link to the L.A. Times story and a bunch of Iowa state picnic photos. Go ahead if you want, but don't blame me.

http://framework.latimes.com/2014/10...les-county/#/0


Bring your own little umbrella hat

I can just feel that the ladies on the left are all wearing naughty underwear:haha:

ethereal_reality Nov 7, 2014 3:23 AM

Standard Gasoline Co. Long Beach 1930

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/vQEnKY.jpg
ebay

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ethereal_reality Nov 7, 2014 3:28 AM

-rare cabinet card / Old Chinatown, circa 1898.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/yhPUoS.jpg
found in an old file of mine / probably ebay

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ethereal_reality Nov 7, 2014 3:39 AM

Does anyone know who might have worn this type of badge at City Hall (around 1928)?


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/LM9hVY.jpg
ebay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/uYsydm.jpg

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ethereal_reality Nov 7, 2014 4:14 AM

Post-War housing by Spiros Ponty, 1947.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/IijH3F.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/743/s53mH9.jpgebay

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MartinTurnbull Nov 7, 2014 5:57 AM

Schwabs mens store, 6358 Hollywood Blvd
 
Does anyone know if this Schwabs mens store at 6358 Hollywood Blvd belonged to the same Schwabs family of pharmacy fame?


http://www.martinturnbull.com/wp-con...8-HWB-copy.jpg

HossC Nov 7, 2014 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6798565)

For some reason it took the St Petersburg Times over a year to publish the story, but here's the picture, and they got the caption word-for-word.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...y.jpg~original
news.google.com


From Spiros G. Ponty's obituary in the LA Times (January 26, 1989):

"Spiros G. Ponty, a Greek immigrant who not only built thousands of homes in Los Angeles but led efforts to provide long-term mortgages so returning war veterans and others could afford to buy them, died Monday at St. John's Medical Center in Santa Monica.

He was 88.

A restaurateur as a young man who later became an assistant business manager to film producer-director Cecil B. De Mille, Ponty began in the housing business as a real estate salesman.

From 1929 until his eyesight began to fail in 1963, he built homes in Westwood, Norwalk, Beverly Hills, South-Central Los Angeles and the San Fernando Valley.

They ranged from the economical to the elegant, and his 147 Spanish Colonial Revival homes in the Carthay Circle area of West Los Angeles--each one unique--are historical landmarks."

ethereal_reality Nov 7, 2014 2:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6798745)
...and his 147 Spanish Colonial Revival homes in the Carthay Circle area of West Los Angeles--each one unique--are historical landmarks."[/I]

Time to gas up the google-mobile! :)

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ethereal_reality Nov 7, 2014 3:18 PM

We recently saw Calla Lilly 'detergent'....now here's the White King. (and it's full of 80 year old soap!)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/roRP8R.jpg
ebay

"1933 White King Soap, Giant Size 3 Pound Box Full Of Soap, Los Angeles California."
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ethereal_reality Nov 7, 2014 3:57 PM

Now this is amazing...the Westwood Observation Tower, shown here in 1928.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/743/WmvDsN.jpg
http://heyler.com/blog/amh-westwood-tower

"Built by the Janss Investment Corporation in the 1920s, this oddly shaped tower
was located on the northeast corner of Wilshire and Beverly Glen Boulevards.

It stood at 420 feet above sea level, making it the highest point on Wilshire Boulevard at the time
and was used primarily as a landmark advertisement. At night, the lightning bolts along the sides
and the 'WESTWOOD' sign would light up and be seen for miles.

Potential home owners were allowed to climb the tower to get a better view of the new community
and identify the lot they would like to purchase."

-one more look / wider view
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/743/beFHEQ.jpg

Now to find some photographs taken from the observation deck showing the surrounding area and development!
You know they must exist somewhere. It's now my quest. ;)

Wig-Wag Nov 7, 2014 6:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6796540)
:previous: Very interesting history of Clune Studios BRR.


I'm hoping someone can dig up a larger scan of this 1922 map. (I don't believe we've seen it before on NLA)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/633/bA0L6y.jpg
http://metroprimaryresources.info/19...or-relief/281/

"Grade Crossing Elimination and Union Depot Plan" 1922
Is that two side-by-side roundhouses east of the L.A. River? (I can only read a few of the captions)

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ER
, after a bit of research on the issue of the twin roundhouses shown on this map I have come to the conclusion that a bit of artistic license was taken by the person who created it.

The facility in question would be the original Los Angeles & Salt Lake (later Union Pacific) yards and backshops on the east bank of the LA River. These extended from 1st Street down to 7th Street. They were eliminated when Union Pacific built its East Los Angeles Yard and and shops six miles south of LA near Montebello in 1924.

Page 77 of John R. Signor’s history titled The Los Angeles & Salt Lake Railroad Company – Union Pacific’s Salt Lake Route, contains an excellent photo of one roundhouse and a rectangular shop building taken from the 4th Street viaduct in 1915. Nowhere in the book is a second roundhouse mentioned.

Looking over the document 'Railroad Grade Crossing Elimination and Passenger and Freight Terminals in Los Angeles' referenced by yourself and HossC failed to show twin roundhouses on any of the maps or in any of the photos. It is quite a wonderful document, by the way.

Cheers,
Jack

Martin Pal Nov 7, 2014 7:25 PM

When I first noticed these photos I was...like...huh?...'til I saw what they were.
I like these kinds of photos that are "real" photos, but link the present with
our personal notions of the past...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Film_Shoot.jpg
http://en.wikimedia.org/wiki/photos/File:Black_Dahlia_Film_Shoot_2

These two photos were taken on Hollywood Blvd. in front of the Pantages during the film shoot in 2005 for The Black Dahlia film.
(Which I do not recommend.)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lm_Shoot_2.jpg

Martin Pal Nov 7, 2014 7:27 PM

I don't recall seeing this particular photo on NLA before, though the area around Sunset and Vine has been
extensively covered. It's taken from the southeast corner under the neon canopy of Carpenter's Drive-In.
We see Wallich's, Capitol Records, Coffee Dan's, the Gruen Watch Time billboard and NBC among others.
(Feel free to name them!)

http://waterandpower.org/4%20Histori...ters_1940s.jpgDWP/LAPL

The photo is dated c.1940's. Do you agree with that? I know TV came into fruition in the late 1940's
but I didn't think Wallich's was that early with their store "TV" advertising.

Martin Pal Nov 7, 2014 7:29 PM

We've covered the NBC Radio City Building on Sunset and Vine many times.
Here's a few photos of their NBC Color City Studios in Burbank.

http://www.scottymoore.net/images/NBC/1958.jpg
Photo by Frank Thomas 1958

http://www.scottymoore.net/images/NB...9e03e778_z.jpg
NBC Color City on Alameda Ave. in Burbank - ca. 1960

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...x/audition.JPG
The Monkees in front of NBC, from episode "The Audition" 1966

http://www.scottymoore.net/images/NBC/ebay1.jpg
Postcard Photo by Ellis-Sawyer 1968/Ebay

CityBoyDoug Nov 7, 2014 8:58 PM

Inflation or Devaluation....which is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6798565)

Thanks for the interesting post ER.

These nice little houses, in 2014, are now selling for around:.......$500,000.

......My aunt owned one like these from 1948 till it was paid off in 1978. Her monthly payment was about $50. We sold it in 1987 for $110K and divided the proceeds 5 ways. The neighbors thought our selling price was outrageously high. I wonder what they think now?

These late 1940s tract homes were very nice. They were all lath~plaster with beautiful hardwood floors. They had large garages with storage space. For their time and day, they were modern and up-to-date. As my mother once said, '' those houses are like pearls on a necklace."


radio63 Nov 8, 2014 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6799324)
I don't recall seeing this particular photo on NLA before, though the area around Sunset and Vine has been
extensively covered. It's taken from the southeast corner under the neon canopy of Carpenter's Drive-In.
We see Wallich's, Capitol Records, Coffee Dan's, the Gruen Watch Time billboard and NBC among others.
(Feel free to name them!)

http://waterandpower.org/4%20Histori...ters_1940s.jpgDWP/LAPL

The photo is dated c.1940's. Do you agree with that? I know TV came into fruition in the late 1940's
but I didn't think Wallich's was that early with their store "TV" advertising.

What a fantastic photo! Never seen one taken from this angle before. The photo is definitely from the 50s. I would guess mid to later 50s. The NBC building has the sign installed in front for KNBH channel 4, and also the light-up board at the roofline of the building that was installed later in the building's life which I have always guessed was some kind of a running electric billboard. Not to mention Wallich's extensively advertising television.

Arch2000 Nov 8, 2014 1:13 AM

Looking for some vintage photos- 3rd & Main
 
Does anyone have, or remember seeing on this thread or elsewhere, any vintage (really any time period) of the corner of 3rd Street & Main? There are many impressive/historic buildings around this area (Bradbury bldg & Douglas bldg to the West, St. Vibiana to the North, etc). There is a small one-story building on the NW corner, with some dive bars and a Mean Streets Cross-Fit gym in it that has so far escaped the areas' gentrification.

Walking around the building the otherday, I could see traces of mosaic tile floor and a more impressive facade that's been covered up with ugly 70's aluminum slats. It appears the building might have been something bigger and more impressive back in the day, and was wondering if anyone knew anything about it?

HossC Nov 8, 2014 2:16 AM

:previous:

Flyingwedge wrote extensively about that building at 3rd and Main in post #21015. It also quotes a previous post by Noircitydame.

Arch2000 Nov 8, 2014 2:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6799950)
:previous:

Flyingwedge wrote extensively about that building at 3rd and Main in post #21015. It also quotes a previous post by Noircitydame.

Yes, I found that after I posted. Since I couldn't do a search in-site, I figured out how to do a google search for the webpage, and found that. A trove of information, to be sure. So interesting that it used to be a taller building, I wonder why it was cut off at the knees?

Curious if anyone else was able to dig up anything since Flyingwedge's post.

unihikid Nov 8, 2014 4:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radio63 (Post 6799849)
What a fantastic photo! Never seen one taken from this angle before. The photo is definitely from the 50s. I would guess mid to later 50s. The NBC building has the sign installed in front for KNBH channel 4, and also the light-up board at the roofline of the building that was installed later in the building's life which I have always guessed was some kind of a running electric billboard. Not to mention Wallich's extensively advertising television.

I say early 50s,remember capitol tower wasn't completed til 55', also i spy an early gm convt.

unihikid Nov 8, 2014 4:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6799498)
Thanks for the interesting post ER.

These nice little houses, in 2014, are now selling for around:.......$500,000.

......My aunt owned one like these from 1948 till it was paid off in 1978. Her monthly payment was about $50. We sold it in 1987 for $110K and divided the proceeds 5 ways. The neighbors thought our selling price was outrageously high. I wonder what they think now?

These late 1940s tract homes were very nice. They were all lath~plaster with beautiful hardwood floors. They had large garages with storage space. For their time and day, they were modern and up-to-date. As my mother once said, '' those houses are like pearls on a necklace."


Funny you should say aunt city, my aunt and uncle own a house that looks very similar to the style here,its kinda near carhtay circle area but further south on the 1900 block of sterns, my uncle bought it with his first wife around 1967 and has lived there since. the house next door to them went for 900k a few yrs ago! they are mainly 3 beds,2 bath and a smaller size yard. now down the street on venice and fairfax,they are planning to build some new houses on the old KRTH 101 tower property......when completed they are asking 1 mil,and im sure they will have no yard.

CityBoyDoug Nov 8, 2014 4:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 6800037)
Funny you should say aunt city, my aunt and uncle own a house that looks very similar to the style here,its kinda near carhtay circle area but further south on the 1900 block of sterns, my uncle bought it with his first wife around 1967 and has lived there since. the house next door to them went for 900k a few yrs ago! they are mainly 3 beds,2 bath and a smaller size yard. now down the street on venice and fairfax,they are planning to build some new houses on the old KRTH 101 tower property......when completed they are asking 1 mil,and im sure they will have no yard.

Most interesting Uni. Most tract houses in the late 1940s were 2 bedrooms, a den and only one bath. By today's standards, they're a bit lacking in certain areas.

MichaelRyerson Nov 8, 2014 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arch2000 (Post 6799889)
Does anyone have, or remember seeing on this thread or elsewhere, any vintage (really any time period) of the corner of 3rd Street & Main? There are many impressive/historic buildings around this area (Bradbury bldg & Douglas bldg to the West, St. Vibiana to the North, etc). There is a small one-story building on the NW corner, with some dive bars and a Mean Streets Cross-Fit gym in it that has so far escaped the areas' gentrification.

Walking around the building the otherday, I could see traces of mosaic tile floor and a more impressive facade that's been covered up with ugly 70's aluminum slats. It appears the building might have been something bigger and more impressive back in the day, and was wondering if anyone knew anything about it?

I feel as though this may have been posted before but maybe not...

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7205/...aff58f9a_o.jpgLooking north on Main Street from 3rd, 1939

USC digital archive/Dick Whittington Photography Collection, 1924-1987


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