:previous: amazing photograph sopas. it's so serene. -a total of three automobiles...five, if you count the two a mile away.




"1950s 35MM Kodachrome Slide - Cars Parked on Santa Monica Street"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...910/X53Zrk.jpg
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The deco/streamline apartment building looks familiar but I can't quite place it.



below: I was hoping to gain more information from the Apt. sign, but the lettering is just too small

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/Y0asU4.jpg


you can view the slide here:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Orig-1950s-35...cAAOSw14xWN~yL

What appears to be tiny stairs is actually an optical illusion. It is a mosaic pattern on the floor of the entry way to the building. I did think the same thing initially as it looked sort of like an Aztec pyramid with a dog dish on top.

If your Hugh McCrum is the one born in August of 1835, he appears back in San Francisco in the 1900 census. Listed with him is his wife Helen and an Adelaide Jensen, noted to be a guest at the time the census was taken on June 7, 1900. He is listed in that census as a liquor dealer.

An earlier census, taken in 1870 shows him as a liquor dealer in Virginia City, Nevada. This was a mining town and was on the downward slide by 1870, having peaked in the mid 1860's. That census notes him as a liquor dealer there as well.

The voter registrations in 1880 show him in San Francisco as a liquor dealer. That registration shows him at 301 Turk, San Francisco.

Yes `oldstuff` thats the one, been trying to hunt down info like that the last couple of years!! In fact i found online a 1860 census from Pine Grove Township No?, Sierra county, where Hugh is 23 and listed as a `Miner`. Wiki describes Pine Grove then as a `gold Camp`. I`m guessing at this time he may have struck it rich there?? The only thing i`m really missing is a photograph of the old guy. He`s mentioned quite regularly in those old digitized newspapers of the time that are online particularly the Arizona and California ones, and you`d think with the mining and liquor circles he walked in there`d be a photo about somewhere.
By the way he married Helen in the First Congregational Church, Los Angeles in 1895.

First Congrgational Church, Los Angeles
 

First Congregational Church (built 1883), NE corner 3rd and Hill (diagonally across from the future site of Angels Flight):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7...6%252520AM.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F..._(CHS-491).jpg

The church was sold to the Baptists in 1889 who sold it to the Unitarians ca 1892. They moved it, in about 1900, to 925 S Flower St. Now demolished.

It appears that at least some of the buildings are still there. The School is apparently now Sherman Oaks Charter Elementary. It says that it was started in 1924. The address has changed from Dickens Street to Greenleaf on the other side. I don't find any pictures online either

There are online pictures of the First Congregational Church, which is said to be the oldest Protestant church in Los Angeles. The pictures show both outside and inside.

I could only find the Dickens Street School in the 1937-1938 San Fernando Valley City Directory. It's listed at 14726 Dickens Street with Earl R Swaim as principal. I haven't found any ground-based pictures yet, but here are some aerials to show the evolution of the site. The first is from 1947, so should represent the layout at the time that rbpjr attended. It looks like the largest building faced Dickens Street. The lower street is Greenleaf Street.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

The 1952 image shows some extra buildings on the site.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

I think the original Dickens Street building is still there on this 1972 image.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

The site looks quite empty in 1980. The 1977 image is actually very similar, but not as clear.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

A few buildings have been added since 1980, but there's still a large playground through the middle of the site. As mentioned by oldstuff, Sherman Oaks Elementary Charter is the only school that's there now. You can find their website here.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original
Google Maps

Here's a view of Dickens Street where the original school once stood.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original
GSV

We're going south for today's Julius Shulman photoset. This is Harbor Savings and Loan in San Pedro. It's "Job 3478: Young and Remington, Harbor Savings and Loan Association (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1963". There are three color images in the set, but apart from this first one, I preferred the black & white ones.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

The circular building featured full-height glass windows and stone walls.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

There was water around the sides to give the building a floating appearance.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

The exposed stone continued inside.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original

The central piece of stonework contained the safe.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

A final look at the interior.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

Here's an article announcing the opening date of the branch from the November 1, 1961 edition of the Torrance Press. Note that the caption has the wrong address. The correct location of 2470 Western Avenue is in the body text.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original
www.torranceca.gov

The building's still there, although it's lost some of its charm (as well as its surrounding water) over the years. The Mobil gas station seen in the Shulman pictures is also still there just to the south. I was amused to see that the article above was followed by a piece about Starbuck from Moby Dick - check out which famous coffee shop is now next door!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...0.jpg~original
GSV

Also seen in this old post--
5697--- but more importantly, the architect was Arthur R. Kelly

Slosson died in the house on June 4, 1946

In my opinion the building has not lost some of its charms. Its lost all of its charm.
:(

:previous: I agree, it's such a shame. ! want the moat back. ;)

originally posted by HossC
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...905/6rZIqx.jpg

:previous: Place this on a 500 ft pedestal and it would be the Jetsons all over again.
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and while we're looking at round buildings...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...907/RXQDkv.jpg
http://www.paulrwilliamsproject.org/...l-pasadena-ca/

"The proposed $2,750,000 Arroyo motor Hotel seen in this 1960 drawing would have been a strikingly modern addition to Pasadena. The project proposed by Hawkins Petroleum, by Paul Williams and associates included 180 units, a private "mens only" Executive Club with individual suites and a heliport (L.A. Times, Dec. 4, 1960) The planned hotel featured a dramatic courtyard dominated by an elevated circular platform housing a restaurant and dining room. The developer, Hawkins Petroleum, was known for it's diverse investment portfolios. The project was not realized."

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Here's an amazing photograph I recently found on eBay. (what clarity!)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...907/dN09Ls.jpg
eBay

reverse / Wm Petgold, De Long St., L.A.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/1hmlqj.jpg


but I can't find De Long Street anywhere near 13th Street.

*I just checked again......now I can't even find De Long Street.

Help!
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Although the seller doesn't say, I believe this is another Rood snapshot. [c.1928]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/aAd74G.jpg
eBay

Perhaps what was meant was Delongpre St. - ?

1321 De Long St
 

"De Long St., bet. 16th (present Venice Blvd.) & Pico, is under the L.A. Convention Center"

-Los Angeles in the 1900s/Streets of a Hundred Years Ago by George Garrigues

:previous:
very useful website this.

Baist 1910, plate 9. 1321 De Long is near the top, at center. De Long is two streets west of Figueroa:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V...9%252520PM.jpg
historic mapworks

http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/...ys/California/
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DeLong Street disappeared under the Convention Center (and Staples) along with most of Georgia Street. (ha. well, second place isn't too bad)

1321 De Long Street
 

1905 LA City Directory:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...n.jpg~original
fold3.com

1906 Sanborn Map; that's Pico running vertically on the right side. You can see 1321 De Long one house to
the south of the alley south of Pico:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...c.jpg~original
LAPL

The site of 1321 De Long is now under the Convention Center. There are little stubs of Wright at the bottom
and Georgia at the top, with Pico running across the center:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...z.jpg~original
Googlemap

The house was still there in 1950.

That's the Fire Dept float for the 26 April 1928 City Hall dedication parade. Too bad it wasn't made out of cake:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D...2%252520PM.jpg

The float from a group of Chinese organizations was made of cake:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-h...0%252520PM.jpg

Pix (and reporting) from LAT

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Meet Mr. William Petzold, his wife Eva and daughters Florence,on right, and Nellie, on left. Mr Petzold was born in New York of German immigrant parents, in February of 1866. His wife was also born in New York as were both his daughters. The younger daughter, Nellie, was born in 1897 so that would mean that the family came to California between that time and 1900 when they appear in the Census in Los Angeles. They lived at 506 E. 1st street in 1900 and then later moved to 842 Beaudry where they lived until the mid-1940's. They must have lived in the De Long house for only a very short time.

Thank you oldstuff. We've already met the Petzold family ("Petzold" is a hard name to forget):


825 Bartlett is still a pretty house:

Thanks for everyone's help in finding the vanished De Long Street.
-as well as the information on the Petzolds.

It appears our jack-of-all-trades R.H. Rood made friends with a couple of Fanchon & Marco showgirls. (the photographs are all dated 1928)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...907/KtXJC0.png
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...908/1JPHXi.jpg
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...908/oFCt2o.jpg
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:previous: I'm having trouble reading the left margin.



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...905/QmS8Kw.jpg
eBay

:previous: He seems a bit distant with this one.



below: Definitely more chummy with Ms. Gaily.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...633/g36LDL.jpg
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We've seen the Fanchon & Marco girls a few times on NLA.

Here's my favorite:

Fanchon & Marco girls posing at the Midwick View Estates, Monterey Park 1930.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/l5gD6v.jpg
old file

:previous: Does anyone recognize Berneice[sic] Ann Gaily or her brunette friend?


The "cascades" the girls are posing on are still there in Monterey Park!
go here: http://i1.wp.com/la-explorer.com/wp-...19-800x600.jpg

Here's the link to my Midwick View Estates post if anyone's curious. (I am working on replacing the missing photos)
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=23847
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I think the house may have survived until at least 1980. The plots either side became apartments, but it looks like there still a small building at 1321 De Long Street in this view.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LongStreet.jpg
Historic Aerials

The apartments are visible in an oblique view I posted regarding the Georgia Street carbarn in post #21064. Unfortunately, they hide the house.

:previous: Good eye Hoss! -very cool.

By chance, today's Julius Shulman post is a similar business to yesterday's. This is Lytton Savings and Loan on Topanga Canyon Boulevard in Canoga Park. It's "Job 4012: Kurt Meyer, Lytton Savings and Loan Association (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1966, 1967". This set is also a mixture of color and black & white pictures. I've omitted some of the exterior shots and some duplicates.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

Here are the ends of the building.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

I'm not sure how accurate the interior colors are. I've left them as I found them.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

This is the area beyond the stairs in the photo above. That red looks very dark to me.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

The upper level only occupied the rear of the building, and was open at the front.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original

Here is that open area.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

I'm assuming this is the back of the building.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original

They sure liked their big pieces of art.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original

The corner office had a slightly angled desk.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...0.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

The clipping below is from the February 25, 1965 edition of Valley News. The last paragraph mentions the art pieces seen above.
NB. I've rearranged the original layout to be more screen-friendly.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
www.newspapers.com

The building is now a branch of Chase. Other than the blue panel housing ATMs on the left, the exterior looks intact. I wish the Googlemobile had made a recent pass on the far side of the street so I could get a better wide view. End views are also tricky due to trees - no doubt part of the "richly-landscaped, park-like plaza".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
GSV

More Rood photos
 

Huh. Me too.

Best dancing - girl - of the diz/dig (?) Baby & etc

Her partner - Fanchon Marco girl


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Called Los 5 Puntos and talked to 'Javier' (perfect English) asked him if he knew what the white rocket-looking monument was and he said it was a monument to Mexican veterans and I asked if it was for any specific war and he called out to a buddy nearby who said he didn't think it was any particular war, just 'Mexican veterans'. How appropriate.

:previous: Thanks for the additional information M_R. Did he know anything about the other 'thingy' that looks like a vent-





This appears to be the same photo in my earlier post, but it has different writing in the borders.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...907/Etj5KF.jpg
eBay

although it pretty much says the same thing.

thanks for your help t2. Mr. Rood certainly got around didn't he.

It is generally known as the "Mexican-American All Wars Memorial." There is some controversy about the name:

http://egpnews.com/2012/12/stolen-ve...d-controversy/

It was put up in 1947.

Cheers,

Earl

"...East Los Angeles already has an All Wars Memorial: it’s at Atlantic Park." (per Earl Boebert's linked article :previous:)


The other All Wars Memorial,
Atlantic Park
566 S Atlantic Blvd. East LA

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w...2%252520PM.jpg
gsv

The 1876 Glover birdseye (looking SE) shows 3rd and 4th running down to Flower off Bunker Hill. Did this ever actually happen IRL?

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0...5%252520PM.jpg
uscdl (detail)

Fanchon and Marco
 

A great site with plenty of pix on the brother and sister team of Fanchon and Marco, put together by a son, is here

A good single page on F&M is here

They gave a start to Cyd Charisse (age 12) Joan Crawford, Martha Raye, Johnny Downs, Janet Gaynor, Dorothy LaMour, Judy Garland (Gumm Sisters), Doris Day, Bing Crosby, etc

Fanny (Franchon) and Mike (Marco)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-J...3%252520PM.jpg
www.fanchonandmarco.com

Fanchon's husband, Wm Simon, Sr, founded Simon's Drive-ins.

'mystery' rooftops.

I found the following four photographs in a very old file of mine.
They show gymnasts performing stunts on a rooftop(s) in Los Angeles [c.1930s]

There are two big hints:

#1 I had them filed under "Poly" / so they could be gymnasts from L.A. Polytechnic High School (or they could just be training there) -perhaps for the 1932 L.A. Olympics?

#2 I recognize the tall building in the distance in the first photograph (below) as the Mode O Day building on W. Washington Blvd.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/OqktGo.jpg
eBay / detail




below: This appears to be a different rooftop.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/z286bq.jpg
ebay / detail

I am especially intrigued by the building behind the gymnast; it has some excellent architectural detailing.




In this similar photo, it's clear there is a sign on the building, F O R E something.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/eRWfb8.jpg
eBay / detail

:previous: Does anyone recognize the building in the distance?



Here are the whole photographs as they appeared on eBay.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/Na4NKG.jpghttp://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...910/rV2uVc.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/80gyRR.jpg


The fourth photograph shows a gymnast in an interior setting.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...905/eBQoNM.jpg
ebay


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Here's a view of Dickens Street where the original school once stood.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original
GSV[/QUOTE]

Thanks...I only attended sixth grade there then onto Van Nuys High School, which I think contained the Jr. High on campus...was only there for seventh grade before moving back to south-central L.A. I can't remember if we had those so called "portables" at the Dickens Street school then or whether my classroom was in the old building...I just remember the old building with lots of trees around the playground...

My Mother Was the Mistress of the Owner of Clifton's Cafeteria
 

After their recent re-opening, Clifton's Cafeteria has really been in the news lately. I've visited a few times and was really impressed by the amazing restoration job (though I fully agree with popular refrain that the cafeteria line and menu need more work).

Anyway, I came across this article the other day, which was quite a fun read: http://www.laweekly.com/arts/my-moth...eteria-4183131

Also, FWIW, the founder's grandson will be giving a talk at the Los Feliz library Nov. 19. I plan on going, it sounds interesting! http://thesilverlakenews.com/calendar/?mc_id=11

ER<

By the looks of the your second pic, it looks like the Foreman Building. Found this link,

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2014/0...g_mixeduse.php

Casey

:previous:

Thanks for your help Casey. Here's the building.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...633/CMRVN3.jpg
http://la.curbed.com/archives/2014/0...g_mixeduse.php

To be honest, I wasn't expecting the building to be downtown.

What do you guys think....is this the building? Did it ever have writing along the roof-line? (as shown below)
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...907/eRWfb8.jpg
ebay / detail

Excellent post on Canoga Park's Lytton Savings and Loan Hoss. Thanks for posting all the photographs in that series.

originally posted by HossC
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/lmaaA6.jpg
:previous: this was my favorite. (I so loved my tricycle when I was a kid)


That said, I couldn't help but notice all the "modern" art in the interior (some worse than others)

In all honesty, I rather like this severe looking sculpture. (it reminds me of a prop from the movie "Alien")

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...910/1x1RHy.jpg
detail

I wonder if it's still inside?

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405 @ 101, 1958
 

Are we sure about that date? I have a note here:

"Construction began on the 405 in August 1960."

UCLA alumnus checking in...

To be clear, I believe the lab school's physical location has been the same ever since it moved to the Westwood campus in 1947. The mailing addresses have been changing over the years as required by changes to street names and mail distribution protocols.

Until sometime after 1984, when I finished my degree, Charles E. Young Drive used to be Circle Drive--then as now with the requisite directional prefix East, South, West, or North. IIRC when it was Circle Drive it wasn't used in addresses. The UES could be listed with a Sunset Boulevard address, as noted above, but there are documents relating to the school from at least as late as 1991, which used 405 Hilgard as the address. The Hilgard address was (is) basically a catch-all address that could be applied to any building or office on campus, with the specifics usually provided in the second line of the address. (Note also the 213 area code, as this was mere months before the change to 310.)

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/566/2...c144ac_o_d.jpg

Another change with Circle/CEY Drive that directly affected UES, and that also happened around the same time as the renaming, was the street's realignment to run nearer along Sunset, in fact nearly abutting it. My memories of the details from nearly thirty years ago are sketchy, but I believe that the present-day alignment this section of Circle/CEY Drive was merely a drop-off/pick-up/carpool area for parents and UES students, with a few curbside parking areas for faculty and staff. Circle/CEY used to be aligned further to the south so that it ran behind the lab school, completely separating regular university traffic from that of the lab school. For that reason I think the realignment was a bad idea, because now the main flow of traffic around the campus now has to pass right alongside the elementary school, negotiating speed bumps and stop signs along the way.

ETA: Now looking at the current Google Earth aerial view, it comes back to me (north to the right).

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5728/...b33455_o_d.png

In the above screengrab from Google, note Sycamore Court, a cul-de-sac near the center of the frame. I now remember that this used to be part of Circle Drive, and it went all the way through to Westwood Plaza. However, the construction of the new Anderson School Of Management facility in the early 1990s put a stop to that.

Meanwhile, what is now the current day alignment of CEY drive also used to run all the way to Westwood Plaza, but you hardly noticed it unless you were actually going that way. I'm not even sure we were allowed to drive through there at all.

[Aside]
Regarding Google Earth, has anyone else found a way to turn off those aggravating pop-ups that say "UNITED STATES - Fly me to this location"? It seems you can't even click on the map without having the program back you out to where you can see the entire county of L.A. I'm already LOOKING at a city in the United States, so why does it keep wanting to fly me there?

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Hi, I am new here, hope that this works and that someone did not already supply this info after Page 864. The first mystery image was shot from the front lawn of Glendale College. View is generally north, and maybe a little west of that. In the foreground is N. Verdugo Road. Road the truck is on is Canada (with a tilde) Blvd. Just over the truck is Verdugo Park with the Verdugo Mountains beyond it. In the center distance is La Crescenta with the Mt. Lukens massif above it. The autos lead me to think this is the early '60s. Second mystery image is from the same spot but panned to the left and showing the front steps of GC. Across the street is the Glendale Civic Auditorium. At last living in LC for over 70 years has paid off!

I've certainly never seen any photographic evidence they did. The rights-of-way depict the streets were laid out to fully traverse Bunker Hill but as we've seen with Teed Street and, more prominently, with Broadway/Sunset, what the maps show isn't always what came to pass. You'll notice on the 1910 Baist that 4th Street appears to reach Flower but the center line of the roadway is abandoned for a short distance just about where the stub would be. I don't think either 3rd or 4th Street succeeded in establishing an actual hook-up with Flower.

:previous: Thanks for the information gcube1942!

Welcome to "noirish Los Angeles."

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I just discovered that Steven Soderbergh's "The Limey" is available on DVD from Netflix. Terence Stamp vs. Peter Fonda in a true-to-noir-spirit gem, filmed entirely on location in 1998 Los Angeles.

Cheers,

Earl

That may very well be; it's possible that the USC Archive put the wrong date.

But I also figure that the 405 Freeway was built and opened in sections.

I just looked it up on Wikipedia; according to that, construction started in 1957, mostly north of LAX, being completed in 1961 and signed as SR-7, with the route number being changed to I-405 during the 1964 renumbering. The whole 405 Freeway with the Orange County section wasn't completed and opened until 1969.

If you've ever seen that silly (but somehow fun) Tony Curtis/Natalie Wood 1964 sex comedy "Sex and the Single Girl," there's a big scene towards the end of the film where the cast of characters are chasing each other on the freeway on the way to LAX. I imagine that the freeway they're using is the 405, and there are sections that don't look completed.

Thx. Sometimes Baist is too subtle for me, but I knew 4th didn't go through in 1910:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-x...6%252520AM.jpg
baist 1910, plate 7, historic mapworks

Here's another Rood snapshot of the 1928 City Hall dedication parade.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...910/zZhy9A.jpg
eBay

This float isn't as impressive at the float with the City Hall model we saw a few days ago.
-since it's a boat, I'm guessing it is representing San Pedro.

At first glance I thought it had a Menorah on the bow.
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In the background is the old Los Angeles Times building before it was bombed out of existence by terrorists who didn't like what they wrote.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Times_bombing