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ethereal_reality Dec 2, 2015 5:55 PM

I just happened across this postcard in one of my old files.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...633/872xvt.jpg
old file / eBay

I am unsure where this particular depot was located.
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ethereal_reality Dec 2, 2015 5:58 PM

While we're in the Pasadena area, I thought I'd go ahead and post this 1960s photograph just for fun.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...633/BpLc13.jpg
old file / eBay

I'm guessing this was taken after the Rose Parade. (or perhaps before) -in other words; I have no idea. ;)

What is that light-colored strip of land meandering down the mountainside? -is it an aqueduct cascade?

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HossC Dec 2, 2015 6:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7255305)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/safW7m.jpg
detail

:previous: Can anyone make out the long horizontal signs in the middle distance?

The one on the left says "Kerckhoff-Cuzner Mill". I think I can make out "Sash Doors ..." from the one on the right.

ethereal_reality Dec 2, 2015 6:05 PM

:previous: Thanks Hoss, much appreciated.

CityBoyDoug Dec 2, 2015 6:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7255326)
While we're in the Pasadena area, I thought I'd go ahead and post this 1960s photograph just for fun.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...633/BpLc13.jpg
old file / eBay

I'm guessing this was taken after the Rose Parade. (or perhaps before) -in other words; I have no idea. ;)

What is that light-colored strip of land meandering down the mountainside?

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:previous: ER

That meandering strip on the mountain is a Firebreak. They are supposed to keep a fire from spreading from one area to another.

ethereal_reality Dec 2, 2015 6:19 PM

:previous: I didn't think of that CBD. Is it still there?

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tovangar2 Dec 2, 2015 7:35 PM

Firebreaks
 
:previous:

It's still there. The system of firebreaks gets constant maintenance to keep them clear:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-P...8%252520AM.jpg
pasadena bootcamp

"Firebreaks" wiki

tovangar2 Dec 2, 2015 7:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7255322)
I am unsure where this particular depot was located.
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The Salt Lake Railroad Depot was on West Colorado Street between N. Pasadena Ave & N. Vernon Ave (now St John Ave):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Q...8%252520AM.jpg
hometown pasadena

(The site is under the Long Beach Freeway now)

HossC Dec 2, 2015 8:25 PM

Another handy Julius Shulman post today where the address is in the title. This is "Job 5914: 6801 Iris Circle (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1981". The description says "For Bob Crane and Associates" - I'm assuming that's not the guy who played Col Hogan, as he died three years earlier. It also says "Photography credit to Carlos von Frankenberg." For some reason, 6801 Iris Circle doesn't seem to appear in the City Directories, even though some of its neighbors do. That means that I haven't been able to work out what the initials on the gates might stand for.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Getty Research Institute

None of the historic GSV images give a good view of the house from the street because of the trees. You can, however, see that the entrance is unchanged.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
GSV

Here's an aerial view which also shows the proximity to the Hollywood Freeway (lower left).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
Google Maps

The property websites give a build date of 1924. One of them, estately.com, has a collection of pictures of the property, including the ones below. Another site, abirdseye.com, has the photos presented as a slideshow. The first image shows that the gates are still the same as they were in 1981, although without the initials.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

I love this door with weird-shaped glass.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

The colorful tiles from the entrance continue inside the house.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original

The view at night isn't bad!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

All from www.estately.com

ethereal_reality Dec 2, 2015 8:28 PM

I don't believe we have seen this very early view of the first (?) Lanfranco Building.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...908/kzjRBS.jpg
old file


This image is from
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...905/okc5MP.jpg
http://gutenberg.polytechnic.edu.na/...0-h.htm#i_145b

illus. with caption
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...905/VMaLvL.jpg




You can see the later Lanfranco Building at 218-222 N. Main Street here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=21311
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ethereal_reality Dec 2, 2015 8:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7255532)
The Salt Lake Railroad Depot was on West Colorado Street between N. Pasadena Ave & N. Vernon Ave (now St John Ave):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Q...8%252520AM.jpg
hometown pasadena

(The site is under the Long Beach Freeway now)

:previous: Thanks tovanger2!

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CityBoyDoug Dec 2, 2015 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7255503)
:previous:

It's still there. The system of firebreaks gets constant maintenance to keep them clear:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-P...8%252520AM.jpg
pasadena bootcamp

"Firebreaks" wiki

When I was 5 years old I thought people would drive up those ''roads''. My Uncle set me straight on that...:D :previous:

ethereal_reality Dec 2, 2015 10:54 PM

I can see where a five year old would think that was a road. :) -kids are cute.
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"1950s Kodachrome Slide, Pasadena Calif."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...910/OrgnNF.jpg
eBay

This is looking east from Los Robles Ave. toward the intersection of E. Colorado Blvd. & Oakland Avenue. What shiny cars!


E. Colorado Boulevard today.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...903/BlK4Ee.jpg
gsv

ethereal_reality Dec 2, 2015 11:00 PM

And now back in wartime Hollywood.


Sailor buddies posing at Hollywood & Vine, 1940s.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...911/04umEv.jpg
old file / eBay

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CityBoyDoug Dec 2, 2015 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7255791)
I can see where a five year old would think that was a road. :) -kids are cute.
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Colorado Blvd. & Oakland Avenue. What shiny cars!


:previous:

This was back in the day before the high quality gloss coat car paints of today. Generally speaking, you don't have to ''wax'' your car in 2015.

The big thing in those days was making sure your dull 1950s car was ''waxed'' and looking spiffy.

tovangar2 Dec 3, 2015 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7255578)
I don't believe we have seen this very early view of the first (?) Lanfranco Building.
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Harris Newmark remembers the Lanfranco brothers:

"The Lanfranco brothers—Juan T. and Mateo—came from Genoa, Italy, by way of Lima, Peru and New York, whence they crossed the Plains with James Lick the carpenter later so celebrated, and they were both here in business in 1853; Juan, a small capitalist or petit rentier, living where the Lanfranco Building now stands, opposite the Federal Building, while Mateo kept a grocery store on Main Street, not far from Commercial. In 1854, Juan added to his independence by marrying Señorita Petra Pilar, one of fourteen children of Don José Loreto Sepúlveda, owner of the Palos Verdes rancho; the celebration of the nuptials, in dancing and feasting, lasting five days. It was at that ranch that a great stampede of cattle occurred, due to fright when the pioneer sulky, imported by Juan Lanfranco from San Francisco, and then a strange object, was driven into their midst. About 1861, the first Lanfranco Building was erected. Mateo died on October 4th, 1873, while Juan passed away on May 20th, 1875. His wife died in 1877. A daughter married Walter Maxwell; a second daughter became the wife of Walter S. Moore, for years Chief of the Fire Department; and still another daughter married Arthur Brentano, one of the well-known Paris and New York booksellers."

ethereal_reality Dec 3, 2015 2:22 AM

:previous: Thanks t2...much appreciated. It's great to see a date (1861) of the building I posted earlier this afternoon.
How did you like that 'horse' on top of the building? I thought it was pretty cool.
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Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug
The Famous Door nightclub stood on Vine Street, Hollywood, some time in the 1930s.
Apparently, they were very proud of the fact that Fats Waller came to play there.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...908/LMEHmL.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=20702

:previous: I've been trying to find the street address of Hollywood's 'Famous Door'.*
(perhaps this was discussed, but I searched the thread & didn't find any specific information in terms of location)
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The only info. I found in the directories at lapl was this:

1938 City Directory
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...905/Ao0DJj.jpg
http://www.lapl.org/collections-reso...al-collections

:previous: George McCullen's (whoever that is.....maybe a manager?) home address at 6146 Eleanor, which is just a few hundred feet off of Vine Street.


6146 Eleanor Ave.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...908/pKOpRe.jpg
gsv

So perhaps the 'Famous Door' was somewhere in this general vicinity.
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*I just noticed there are numbers on the Famous Door awning, but they're difficult to read.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...908/JfHAqY.jpg
detail

Is it 813, 815.....615?
I was hoping this little building would show up in some vintage aerials.
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Those Who Squirm! Dec 3, 2015 2:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7256000)
:previous: I've been trying to find the street address of Hollywood's 'Famous Door'.
(perhaps this was discussed, but I haven't found any specific information in terms of location on NLA)
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The only info. I found in the directories was this:

1938 City Directory
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...905/Ao0DJj.jpg
lapl

:previous: George McCullen's (whoever that is.....maybe a manager?) home address at 6146 Eleanor, which is just a few hundred feet off of Vine Street.


6146 Eleanor Ave.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...908/pKOpRe.jpg
gsv

Since this is so close to Vine Street, perhaps the 'Famous Door' was somewhere in this vicinity.
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According to this it was on North Vine. I can't make out the number here, but could it be in the 800s, which would put it somewhere near Melrose Avenue?

tovangar2 Dec 3, 2015 3:10 AM

Lloyd Lane 1924 / Iris Circle 1950
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7255571)
...This is "Job 5914: 6801 Iris Circle (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1981". The description says "For Bob Crane and Associates" It also says "Photography credit to Carlos von Frankenberg." For some reason, 6801 Iris Circle doesn't seem to appear in the City Directories, even though some of its neighbors do. That means that I haven't been able to work out what the initials on the gates might stand for...

The property websites give a build date of 1924...

More mysteries. Lloyd Lane and Iris circle don't appear on the 1921 Baist map. Both Lloyd Lane and the owners' home (before the 101 got it) were very near to the relocated house. The owners' house was built n 1916.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i...3%252520PM.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-A...2%252520PM.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-c...1%252520PM.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E...9%252520PM.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8...7%252520PM.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i...1%252520PM.jpg
ladbs / 6801 Iris

The subject properties were/are between Highland and Cahuenga:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5...4%252520PM.jpg
whitleyheights.com

No sign of Lloyd Lane or Iris Circle in 1921:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_...5%252520PM.jpg
historicmapworks, 1921, plate 40

2015. Lloyd Lane is gone again:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4...3%252520PM.jpg
google maps

The above doesn't explain what the "D" stands for either.


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Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7256000)
How did you like that 'horse' on top of the building? I thought it was pretty cool.

I've always loved that horse :-)

John Maddox Roberts Dec 3, 2015 3:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7255503)
:previous:

It's still there. The system of firebreaks gets constant maintenance to keep them clear:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-P...8%252520AM.jpg
pasadena bootcamp

"Firebreaks" wiki

When I was a boy in Pasadena in the '50s all the neighborhood kids would climb up the Chamberlain Street firebreak on the 4th of July. Up there you're looking right down into the Rose Bowl and after dark we'd catch the fireworks show. I went back there a few years ago and now it's fenced off, but you could walk right up onto the firebreak in the '50s.

ethereal_reality Dec 3, 2015 3:23 AM

:previous: That's a great memory J_M_R.
I was born on the Fourth of July, so I especially enjoyed your comment. :)
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Noircitydame Dec 3, 2015 3:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7255571)
Another handy Julius Shulman post today where the address is in the title. This is "Job 5914: 6801 Iris Circle (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1981". The description says "For Bob Crane and Associates" - I'm assuming that's not the guy who played Col Hogan, as he died three years earlier. It also says "Photography credit to Carlos von Frankenberg." For some reason, 6801 Iris Circle doesn't seem to appear in the City Directories, even though some of its neighbors do. That means that I haven't been able to work out what the initials on the gates might stand for.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Getty Research Institute

None of the historic GSV images give a good view of the house from the street because of the trees. You can, however, see that the entrance is unchanged.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
GSV

Here's an aerial view which also shows the proximity to the Hollywood Freeway (lower left).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
Google Maps

The property websites give a build date of 1924.

I have no clues on the D.D. front but may have worked out why its not showing up in the directories as well as why, though clearly a c. 1924 house, I found no reference to that address in newspapers: It appears to have been moved to the present site in 1950 from a street that was all or partly wiped out in the freeway construction, Lloyd Lane.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...01-10-6-50.jpg building permit records, dated 10-6-1950

It was at 2053 Lloyd Lane. Built for producer Lewis Lewyn in 1924. He married actress Marion Mack the same year.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...53%20lloyd.jpg
building permit record, 3-28-24

Lloyd Ln. was named in honor of Harold Lloyd, in 1924.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...lloyd%20ln.jpg LAT 4-7-24

In 1950 the house had to be moved, because it was in the path of the freeway. Mack & Lewyn had moved long since, like most of the other 20's stars they once called neighbors. http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...loyd%20lan.jpg LAT 5-14-1950


So that's when a couple William and Hazel Farrell got it and moved it to 6801. There's a permit for moving a garage also.

It's a nice house. I love the tile on the stairs.

ethereal_reality Dec 3, 2015 3:43 AM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...908/sE80Ak.png
detail

:previous:
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7255331)
I think I can make out "Sash Doors ..." from the one on the right.


Hoss, do you think this could be the business that belongs to that sign? (long shot guess)

1926 Directory
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...911/mF7OO4.jpg
http://www.lapl.org/collections-reso...al-collections

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tovangar2 Dec 3, 2015 6:58 AM

Whitley Heights
 
The 1924 development had a sign, on a smaller scale than "Hollywoodland":

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-a...8%252520PM.jpg
hollywoodhillshomes

1907. Whitley Heights before it was Whitley Heights:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-A...4%252520PM.jpg
hollywoodphotographs (altered)

Another thing I found interesting in googling Whitley Heights is I found out where Laughlin Park got its exceedingly ugly gates (the way they open is the ugliest thing about them).

After a ten-year city approval process, Whitley Heights installed seven gates in the early 90s (costing about $350K altogether and were promptly and successfully sued by neighboring residents. LAFD was none to happy with the gates either.

Anyway Laughlin Park bought some of the rejected gates. They're a real eyesore. There used to be lovely, discreet, little painted-wood signs that said, "Private Drive" at the Laughlin Park entrances, which I found sort of classy.

Dozens of neighborhoods have applied to the city to privatize public streets, usually citing high crime and heavy traffic as the excuse. However, the agitating neighborhoods are, of course, the low-crime, low-traffic ones. An instant effect on real estate prices seems to be the real reason. Folks want to be able to say their home is in a "gated community" when it comes time to sell.

Thx NCD for the added info

tovangar2 Dec 3, 2015 8:45 AM

Famous Door
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6524894)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7256000)
:previous: I've been trying to find the street address of Hollywood's 'Famous Door'.*

*I just noticed there are numbers on the Famous Door awning, but they're difficult to read.

Is it 813, 815.....615?
I was hoping this little building would show up in some vintage aerials.
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I love this place, the billboard roof is so wonderfully shameless.


The Story of Hollywood, An Illustrated History by Gregory Paul Williams says the Famous Door was on Vine at Willoughby and gives 1936 as its start date. If the address is 813 or 815 Vine, that puts the club closer to Waring (which isn't far).


I'm confused by MartinTurnbull's web page on the Famous Door (CBD's source), as it shows two different buildings.



A not-entirely-successful hommage:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9...0%252520PM.jpg
allmusic

HossC Dec 3, 2015 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 7138993)

Have we ever seen a proper photo of the Tanner Gray Line at Third and Boylston? I seem to remember one but I've searched and searched to no avail. Specifically, I want to know what that neon says. I'm thinking the first two words are "sightseeing" and "limousines" but who knows.

You know, this one:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/579/2...386f0fc7_o.pngfrom those 1955 blimp aerials at usc

Thanks to Beaudry's recent post, it didn't take me too long to figure out where these pictures were taken, although I think the only word that can be confirmed on Tanner sign is "SIGHTSEEING". The photos are dated May 5, 1952. The London buses were taking part in a 12,000 mile tour of the United States and Canada as part of a "Come to Britain" campaign.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

This detail from another picture in the set shows the British bus drivers making tea for their guests. Note the "Brewing Up Kit" bearing the phrase "Let's have a Cup-a-Char!".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
Detail of picture at USC Digital Library

The last picture in the set is very similar to the one above, so I've omitted it.

For all the public transport enthusiasts out there, the three buses returned to Britain at the end of the tour. After being exhibited for a while, they entered regular service in 1953. From globallink-travel.com:
A plaque carried inside the buses read:-

This bus was driven by London Transport crews through the United States of America from New York to San Francisco and back, and through the Eastern Provinces of Canada - a journey of 12,000 miles - as part of the 'Come to Britain' campaign of the British Travel and Holidays Association, March - August 1952.
The bus on the left of the pictures above, with the license plate LYR 826, was acquired by a bus museum when it retired from service in 1977. In 2012, to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the North American tour, the bus was restored to its 1952 appearance. The picture below, along with a load of additional information, can be found at londonbusmuseum.com.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
Peter Zabek/www.londonbusmuseum.com

GaylordWilshire Dec 3, 2015 4:35 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pse89a1769.jpg


Re the Famous Door

Quote:

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 7256017)
According to this it was on North Vine. I can't make out the number here, but could it be in the 800s, which would put it somewhere near Melrose Avenue?

It was at 875 N Vine

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T...2520AM.bmp.jpg

Also listed in the '38 CD at 875


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Q...2520AM.bmp.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-R...2520AM.bmp.jpg

1948/1964: It doesn't appear obvious in the photo at top, but it seems the building sat at an angle at the SW corner of Vine and Willoughby. Apparently demolished 1967


Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7256229)

I'm confused by MartinTurnbull's web page on the Famous Door (CBD's source), as it shows two different buildings.

The picture of Dorothy Lamour may have been taken at a Famous Door here in NY-- there were several locations of it on W 52nd St. There was a tradition of musicians signing a door-- not necessarily the entrance, but an old door set up for the purpose, apparently. Some sources say the LA club also followed this tradition, though.

ethereal_reality Dec 3, 2015 6:14 PM

:previous: Thanks for the clarification GaylordWilshire.

-also thx for posting the vintage aerials.

HossC Dec 3, 2015 6:23 PM

Thanks to tovangar2 and Noircitydame for your follow-ups on 6801 Iris Circle. I didn't know the house had been moved. Now we just need to find what those initials on the gates stood for :).


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Many of the Julius Shulman photos I'm currently looking through date from the 70s and early-80s, so I was slightly surprised to see that this color image is from 1955. The cars on the left are the only giveaway. It's "Job 1975: Blanchard Lumber Company (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1955".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Getty Research Institute

The building stood at 5360 Lankershim Boulevard. A previous incarnation of the store was posted by e_r back in February, with a follow-up by Wig-Wag:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wig-Wag (Post 6910764)

ER, this is my home town of North Hollywood, and this is where I developed my interesting in railroading and electric traction as we did not have a car. The PE Hollywood cars were my ticket to adventure!

Where Blanchard Lumber Company stood is the entrance to today's METRO Red Line. Also, after the end of rail passenger service the station was used as a builders supply until the late 1990's or early 2000's, and has since been restored. See:

http://la.curbed.com/tags/north-hollywood-train-depot

I found a second 1955 picture of the Blanchard Lumber Co at LAPL. The picture below, dated May 6, 1955, comes with this helpful description:
"Await Grand Opening -- Officials of the Blanchard Lumber Company, 5360 Lankershim Blvd., North Hollywood, look over final plans of the grand opening of their new, ultra modern office and salesroom. Destroyed by fire just one year ago, the new structure, built by Kersey Kinsey Company, utilizes many strikings examples of utility of construction. From left, officials are R.W. Blanchard Jr., R.W. Blanchard Sr., president and founder of the firm in 1911; W.J. Blanchard, in charge of the Burbank yard, and Lemoine Blanchard."
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
LAPL

The fire mentioned in the description above was reported in the May 7, 1954 edition of The San Bernardino County Sun.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ardLumber3.jpg
www.newspapers.com

The early-50s weren't good for the Blanchard Lumber Company. Their Burbank yard also suffered a fire a year earlier. That one appears to have been the work of 12-year-old boy, as reported in the June 21, 1953 edition of The San Bernardino County Sun.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ardLumber4.jpg
www.newspapers.com

USC has a series of 12 photos from April 11, 1953 showing buildings on fire and the aftermath at the Blanchard Lumber yard at 150-154 East Angeleno Avenue. Here's one of those images.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

ethereal_reality Dec 3, 2015 8:05 PM

:previous: Very interesting post Hoss!



I happened across this amazing photograph yesterday on eBay.

"1919 Pasadena California Parade rppc Real Photo Postcard"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...903/Nb8ybI.jpg
eBay

Does anyone recognize this street?




reverse (mentions 48 star flag)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...907/AVp02w.jpg
eBay

:previous: Fell free to decipher the writing on the back. ;)


Here is the link to the photo on eBay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1919-PASADEN...UAAMXQLoZR3Le2

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GatoVerde Dec 3, 2015 8:35 PM

I wonder what happened to the horse sculpture on the roof. I can't see it getting tossed, and I also have a vague feeling I've seen that horse on top of some other building in LA or the Valley. Maybe a bar or restaurant. Perhaps someone else has some idea.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7255578)
I don't believe we have seen this very early view of the first (?) Lanfranco Building.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...908/kzjRBS.jpg
old file


This image is from
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...905/okc5MP.jpg
http://gutenberg.polytechnic.edu.na/...0-h.htm#i_145b

illus. with caption
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...905/VMaLvL.jpg




You can see the later Lanfranco Building at 218-222 N. Main Street here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=21311
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ethereal_reality Dec 3, 2015 9:08 PM

:previous: I wonder if the horse was made of tin?
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below: I've been trying to find this same view on google-street-views, but I haven't had much luck. (I wanted to make sure those hideous apts. on the left are gone)


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...910/U4N377.jpg
http://s147.photobucket.com/user/VIE...FRWY5.jpg.html

The caption is:
"El Monte Busway at Long Beach Freeway looking West before Construction 1960s"

.....but the Long Beach Freeway pretty much runs north and south, so I don't see how this view is looking west.

ethereal_reality Dec 3, 2015 9:39 PM

"Arrow Chevrolet, 8th & Soto, Los Angeles."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...908/NtuANY.jpg
eBay

note the 12 cent hamburgers, far right--->





below: This massive building (one source says 80,000 sq. ft, another says 66,000 sq. ft.) is still standing. Today it is the Plaza Del Sol shopping mall.

-the building is so big it's rather difficult to capture on google street-view.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...633/grF1b5.jpg
gsv


Interesting Los Angeles Times article on the Plaza Del Sol struggles as a mall in 1987.
http://articles.latimes.com/1987-03-..._plaza-del-sol




The one story tile-roof buildings (outlined in red below) are also still standing. (they're located on the northeast corner of Short Street and Boyle Avenue)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/qGQvL0.jpg
eBay


here's a view from Short street.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...907/xejb6e.jpg
gsv

:previous: The shape reminds me of the early adobes. I'd love to know when they were built.


and here's a view from Boyle Avenue.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...910/7y4Gzg.jpg
gsv

Like I mentioned before, the design is reminiscent of an adobe.

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oldstuff Dec 3, 2015 9:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 7253613)
I just came across a full-text PDF document containing an application by the L.A. Conservancy to have the Plaza district added to the National Register of Historic Places. The original part is dated 1972, but there seem to be several addenda added over the following years into the 1980s. There's at least some discussion for just about every building on the site, contributing to a count of 35 pages.

I haven't read it through yet, but I can't help wonder if this is when the last businesses were evicted, including La Esperanza? Does anyone have access to phone books or directories from 1970 to about 1974?

It wouldn't surprise me if this was the source document for the informational pamphlets the Park passed out to visitors in the 1970s and 80s.

Here's a little bit of background on Ezequiel Moreno: He was a baker in his native Mexico. He was born in 1896 in Guadalupe, Zaca, Mexico. Mr. Moreno came to the US in 1917 and initially settled in Arizona where he was listed in his WWI draft registration as a miner. By 1919 he is in Los Angeles when his daughter was born. He is listed in the 1940 Census as the owner of a restaurant. Mr. Moreno became a naturalized US citizen in 1942. He died in South Pasadena in 1976.

tovangar2 Dec 3, 2015 10:15 PM

Wyvernwood and Estrada Courts adjacent
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7257021)

The shape reminds me of the early adobes. I'd love to know when they were built.
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1947 as eng(ineering) offices.


The neighborhood:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-R...5%252520PM.jpg
google maps

oldstuff Dec 3, 2015 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7255326)
While we're in the Pasadena area, I thought I'd go ahead and post this 1960s photograph just for fun.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...633/BpLc13.jpg
old file / eBay

I'm guessing this was taken after the Rose Parade. (or perhaps before) -in other words; I have no idea. ;)

What is that light-colored strip of land meandering down the mountainside? -is it an aqueduct cascade?

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The picture would have been taken in Victory Park where they bring the floats after the parade for viewing. The light strip on the mountain is a fire break/fire road

oldstuff Dec 3, 2015 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7257021)
"Arrow Chevrolet, 8th & Soto, Los Angeles."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...908/NtuANY.jpg
eBay

note the 12 cent hamburgers, far right--->





below: This massive building (one source says 80,000 sq. ft, another says 66,000 sq. ft.) is still standing. Today it is the Plaza Del Sol shopping mall.

-the building is so big it's rather difficult to capture on google street-view.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...633/grF1b5.jpg
gsv


Interesting Los Angeles Times article on the Plaza Del Sol struggles as a mall in 1987.
http://articles.latimes.com/1987-03-..._plaza-del-sol




The one story tile-roof buildings (outlined in red below) are also still standing. (they're located on the northeast corner of Short Street and Boyle Avenue)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/qGQvL0.jpg
eBay


here's a view from Short street.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...907/xejb6e.jpg
gsv

:previous: The shape reminds me of the early adobes. I'd love to know when they were built.


and here's a view from Boyle Avenue.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...910/7y4Gzg.jpg
gsv

Like I mentioned before, the design is reminiscent of an adobe.

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The County Assessor has a secondary build date of 1945 but the original build date is not there. They are listed as commercial property by the assessor and offices by real estates sites

BifRayRock Dec 3, 2015 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7255578)
I don't believe we have seen this very early view of the first (?) Lanfranco Building.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...908/kzjRBS.jpg
old file
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As horses go, here is another to ponder. Could it be related?


It is said that WJ Rooks was in Hollywood. 1906 Hollywood Directory lists him at Wilcox, south of Sunset blvd., "Home 261."

Photo undated
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...b.png~originalNatHistMus








HossC Dec 3, 2015 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7256970)

I've been trying to find this same view on google-street-views, but I haven't had much luck. (I wanted to make sure those hideous apts. on the left are gone)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...910/U4N377.jpg
http://s147.photobucket.com/user/VIE...FRWY5.jpg.html

The caption is:
"El Monte Busway at Long Beach Freeway looking West before Construction 1960s"

This is about as close as I could get to the original angle.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
GSV

I'm afraid "those hideous apts. on the left" are still there. They've had a makeover, but it doesn't help much.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
GSV

BifRayRock Dec 4, 2015 12:45 AM





Source lists this image as an Orphanage/Asylum in Vista Del Mar, Palms area, 3200 Motor Ave, circa 1925. Vista Del Mar Family Services and Vista School are among the current occupants of the 3200 Motor Ave Address. Could there be a connection with a '27CD listing for 7619 Exposition Blvd., "Palms" ? Building permit for 7619 Exposition indicates '28 date.


http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...3.png~originalhttp://collections.nhm.org/seaver-ce...&refirn=552253






CityBoyDoug Dec 4, 2015 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7257199)
This is about as close as I could get to the original angle.



I'm afraid "those hideous apts. on the left" are still there. They've had a makeover, but it doesn't help much.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
GSV

Fake pseudo Hacienda balconies to nowhere. The building actually looked better before.

BifRayRock Dec 4, 2015 2:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5882941)
That article on the Alexandria 'wing' is sooo interesting. Thx for posting it Lwize.


Just a reminder of the opulence of the mighty Alexandria (amid all that grandeur is a porcelain spittoon).

http://imageshack.us/a/img593/1230/aabalex.jpg
http://www.homerlea.org/photoarchives5.htm

above: I'd like to see the light at the end of that chain at far right (obviously it's down in the lobby). Lobby pic anyone?





The magnificent stained glass in Palm Court (still in place in the old Alexandria ballroom)

http://imageshack.us/a/img820/5382/aabalexpalmcourt.jpg
http://bigorangelandmarks.blogspot.c...ria-hotel.html
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Interesting interview re Alexandria Hotel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEugZGBL-nU


Curious image purportedly from Alexandria Hotel featuring Fatty Arbuckle. Different sources peg this at 1913 and 1918. Seated to the right of FA is Adolph Zukor and Carl Laemmle. Other faces are familiar but their identities do not readily come to mind. (De Mille toward center of mirror?) Guessing Sam Behrendt is across the table sans headgear. Although this could be the Alexandria, the room does not have any of that Hotel's renowned opulence. The hats, aprons and lettering on mirror suggest this could have been a lodge meeting. :shrug:


Beefsteak Dinner To Roscoe Arbuckle By His Friend Sam Behrendt, Alexandria Hotel
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...a.png~original

http://collections.nhm.org/seaver-ce...&refirn=751404




Sam Behrendt, who is mentioned above and whose collection of Photos is held at the Natural History Museum is second from the left, top row.
1896
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...psjqulkeoq.jpgwbtmurals




1916 J. Lasky (Famous Players), A. Zukoph, Goldwyn, C. De Mille and Kaufman
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ymyJtrqeDT...ufman.1947.jpghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ymyJtrqeDT...ufman.1947.jpg




J. Lasky and Arbuckle, circa 1920
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ckle,_1920.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ckle,_1920.jpg



Quote:

What is now known as Paramount Studios actually began in 1916 when Adolph Zukor merged his Famous Players Film Company with Lasky Films to form Famous Players-Lasky. A year later, Zukor took over Paramount Film Distribution and the new company was named Paramount Pictures.


92 year old Adolph Zukor in 1965
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00113/00113128.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00113/00113128.jpg



Although this1936 image of 5555 Melrose may be familiar to most, for some reason I do not think it has been posted on NLA.
http://www.30view.com/uploads/compan...udios-12-g.jpghttp://www.30view.com/uploads/compan...udios-12-g.jpg http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics39/00069491.jpg






Pdxrailtransit Dec 4, 2015 3:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7256970)
:previous: I wonder if the horse was made of tin?
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below: I've been trying to find this same view on google-street-views, but I haven't had much luck. (I wanted to make sure those hideous apts. on the left are gone)


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...910/U4N377.jpg
http://s147.photobucket.com/user/VIE...FRWY5.jpg.html

The caption is:
"El Monte Busway at Long Beach Freeway looking West before Construction 1960s"

.....but the Long Beach Freeway pretty much runs north and south, so I don't see how this view is looking west.

The apartments are still there, although with a new facade. Coords: 34.064639, -118.158344

ethereal_reality Dec 4, 2015 2:51 PM

re: El Monte Busway



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...910/qX0y7Q.png
http://metroprimaryresources.info/40...-station/2745/

above: Pacific Electric streetcar track removal for El Monte Busway construction, early 1972.





below: Inspecting the model of the El Monte Busway Station Terminal. (well, half of the model actually..........it's a cut-a-way)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...908/Dc8oMW.png
https://www.flickr.com/people/metrolibraryarchive/




below: The distinctively round bus terminal.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/dI5YBY.png
http://ptatransitauthority.blogspot....way-buses.html





aerial / date unknown
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...908/5gKL5p.jpg
http://ptatransitauthority.blogspot....way-buses.html

The bus terminal was 11 miles due east of downtown Los Angeles.



the station itself.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/Hgzfa8.png
https://www.flickr.com/photos/metrol...ive/2930789078






This is my favorite photograph of the bus station.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...903/UC509U.png
http://picssr.com/photos/25380437@N0...d=25380437@N04



I'll end with this nifty illustration.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...905/PwNjOK.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/metrol...ive/2929932553



I'm outta' town until Monday. Have fun everyone!

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John Maddox Roberts Dec 4, 2015 6:45 PM

Who's the lady inspecting the model? She's a looker.

Those Who Squirm! Dec 4, 2015 10:23 PM

Speaking of El Monte
 
Has anyone gotten a good look at the new bus terminal yet? Certainly there are some images online, as well as the VIP grand opening video on YouTube (in which the facility is pretty much empty). But I haven't seen anything yet that gives the feel of the place in typical conditions, or what the usual experience is of a passenger arriving or leaving at the station.

Although Metro says it's the largest bus-only facility west of Chicago, that hardly seems possible in the photos.

Tourmaline Dec 4, 2015 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Maddox Roberts (Post 7258109)
Who's the lady inspecting the model? She's a looker.

:shrug:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7257727)
below: Inspecting the model of the El Monte Busway Station Terminal. (half of the model actually..........it's a cut-a-way)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...908/Dc8oMW.png
https://www.flickr.com/people/metrolibraryarchive/

No idea of :previous:

But have to ask, how many times have you seen Superman, the movie, circa 1978?;)

Margot Kidder.
http://iv1.lisimg.com/image/5387137/...got-kidder.jpghttp://iv1.lisimg.com/image/5387137/...got-kidder.jpg

CityBoyDoug Dec 4, 2015 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 7258497)
Has anyone gotten a good look at the new bus terminal yet? Certainly there are some images online, as well as the VIP grand opening video on YouTube (in which the facility is pretty much empty). But I haven't seen anything yet that gives the feel of the place in typical conditions, or

Although Metro says it's the largest bus-only facility west of Chicago, though it hardly seems possible in the photos.

Where is this new Bus Terminal?

HossC Dec 4, 2015 10:46 PM

This is the Warner-Elektra-Atlantic (WEA) office building in Burbank. It's Julius Shulman's "Job 6109: Hugh Gibbs and Don Gibbs, Warner-Elektra-Atlantic Corporation (Los Angeles County, Calif.),1982".
NB. I've omitted some of the exterior photos and all of the black & white ones.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

The sign at the reception desk names it as the Joel M Friedman Building (see below). I'm not sure who thought that white lettering on an off-white background was a good idea!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

Some more interior shots.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

The clipping below is from the Oct 17, 1981 edition of Billboard. It gives some information about what the building was used for, and who Joel M Friedman was.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...0.jpg~original
books.google.com

A week later, Oct 24 1981, Billboard published this article about Joel M Friedman, or "JMF" as he was obviously known. I tried adjusting the contrast on this one, but kept losing the lower-left corner.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
books.google.com

Now a Warner Bros office building, it still stands at 111 N Hollywood Way. That's the corner of W Olive Avenue, opposite Warner Bros' Studios. From laconservancy.org:
"...the Gibbs & Gibbs-designed Warner Bros. office building on North Hollywood Way is a deconstructed residential building expanded into a commercial high-rise.

Completed in 1981, this office building has a wood post-and-beam structural system like the classic Mid-Century Modern homes built by USC School of Architecture-trained architects like Carl Maston, Raymond Kappe, Ladd & Kelsey, and Buff & Hensman. The wood structural members are exaggerated, extending far beyond the building's dark-tinted glass walls, and feature exposed hardware."
I can't help feeling that the current paint scheme and abundance of trees detract from the original design.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original
GSV

Those Who Squirm! Dec 4, 2015 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7258504)
Where is this new Bus Terminal?

In El Monte, where it has replaced the old round one in the photo above. It does look rather interesting from the pictures I've seen, though those have mostly been limited to wide exteriors and bus bay close-ups. It's basically the eastern end of the Busway, though it also serves Greyhound and other carriers in addition to Metro.

https://lametthesource.files.wordpre.../elmonte22.jpg

(This is only a pre-construction rendering, but it's better than anything I can find of the finished structure, which is pretty close to it, anyway. And, not that I look at that tiny bus next to it, it's obviously bigger than I thought.


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