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GaylordWilshire Jan 10, 2013 3:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 5967227)
have we discussed the entrance cement post on washington bl in this area? i think they have two,one at hobart and i cant think of the other,but they are in pretty bad shape.

uni--in reference to the West Adams Heights gateposts--a few priors:


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7558

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7561

unihikid Jan 10, 2013 3:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5967567)

Thanks GW ive always loved thoes gatepost,you would think with the cemetary so close they would help out with the stonework

Horthos Jan 10, 2013 4:15 PM

Some stuff and some things as well!
 
I have been watching work being done lately on a couple Broadway buildings...

First off this is one I have been looking forward to for some time now...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...io-/blegh2.jpg
image from google earth

This building has had a sheet over it for the past few months now and you could never see what it looked like as the work was being done. All anyone knew was that the mural was being taken off and the building was being restored. This morning, while going to get some breakfast, I saw that the sheet had been removed.

Enough blabber. Picture time.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...66853x1280.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...67853x1280.jpg
Photos by me

As you can see they are still working on it, I dont know when work will be done, but its coming along nicely.

Another building seems to be getting some love a bit further down on Broadway...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...io-/blegh1.jpg
Photo from google earth

I have been watching them mess around with this one too.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...69853x1280.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...701280x853.jpg
Photos by me...

Slowly life returns to Broadway.


On another completely random note, I was wondering if anyone may be able to help me figure out what these businesses and buildings were at one time. There are these signs on the ground here and there, or designs on the sidewalk indicating that there was at one time an entryway to some building/business.

Stationers Corporation?
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...711280x853.jpg

This design right next to the stationers corporation.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...72853x1280.jpg

Both of those are directly next to the Alexandria in that parking lot.

Also there are these two as well.

I cant make out what this one is/was. I am guessing perhaps a drug store or something. 4th street between Broadway and Spring.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...731280x853.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...74853x1280.jpg

And Glasgow Tailors? Next to the Hotel Barclay on 4th and Main.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...75853x1280.jpg
All photos by me.

Can anyone shed some light on these?

GaylordWilshire Jan 10, 2013 4:38 PM

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4...ofrbsq1000.jpgBSQ


The evolution of the Hal Roach Studio main building, 1920-1963:

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/1...constructi.jpgSony Pictures Museum

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6...aerial1000.jpgLAPL


And after a ca. 1934 remodeling:
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/8...5remod1000.jpghollywoodphotographs.com

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/290...sgreen1000.jpgNNNN

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5...mosign1000.jpgThe Foxling

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3...lished1000.jpgLife/The Studio Tour

ethereal_reality Jan 10, 2013 5:14 PM

Horthos, such a great post! I can't wait until someone (perhaps me :)) finds answers to those wonderful sidewalk fragments you've discovered. Very exciting!
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Thx for the post on the evolution of the Hal Roach Studios main building GW. I liked it better before they tacked on the faux-colonial facade.
I had never seen it in it's original state.

I used to get the Hal Roach Studios building confused with the Selznick International building (also in Culver City...and still standing).

http://imageshack.us/a/img23/3931/aabselznick.jpg
http://caroleandco.wordpress.com/201...s-august-2009/

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GaylordWilshire Jan 10, 2013 6:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horthos (Post 5967629)
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...701280x853.jpg
Photos by me...

Slowly life returns to Broadway.


On another completely random note, I was wondering if anyone may be able to help me figure out what these businesses and buildings were at one time. There are these signs on the ground here and there, or designs on the sidewalk indicating that there was at one time an entryway to some building/business.

Stationers Corporation?
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...711280x853.jpg

This design right next to the stationers corporation.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...72853x1280.jpg

Both of those are directly next to the Alexandria in that parking lot.

Also there are these two as well.

I cant make out what this one is/was. I am guessing perhaps a drug store or something. 4th street between Broadway and Spring.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...731280x853.jpg


Great post, Horthos--downtown will never be what we imagine it was before the long postwar decline, but it is fantastic to see the demolitions slowing and the historic fabric of the district being restored. Who'd have ever thought? Anyway, let's see.... The Schulte-United store was at 529 S Broadway, built in 1928 as part of a national chain. It didn't last long...

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/9206/horthosads.jpgLAT June 19, 1932/Dec 28, 1934


The sunburst was in front of 523 S Spring, a narrow building between the Stationers Corp and the Alexandria. 523 S Spring had a number of tenants on its ground floor in the 1910s and '20s, among them the Prudential Building-Loan Association ('20s) and before that, the stationery outlet of Stratford & Green Booksellers...not that any of this explains the sunburst.... The Angelus Drug Co was at 214 West 4th St... the blue-and-white tiling seems to be a remnant. I can't find anything about Glasgow Tailors....

Earl Boebert Jan 10, 2013 8:42 PM

Va Va Voom
 
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4...o1_r1_1280.gif

http://rogerwilkerson.tumblr.com

Abbe Lane in front of Ciro's. I'm so old I'm almost more exited about the Jaguar.

Almost ...

Cheers,

Earl

oldstuff Jan 10, 2013 9:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5966720)
I'm glad you posted that Magnolia Park ad T2. It made me go back and reread this really good post by 3940dxer.

The name "White Spot" probably came because the man who developed Magnolia Park was Harry White. He had a real estate business and also was the one who was responsible for cutting Barham Blvd through what was then called Dark Canyon. Mr White was my cousin's maternal grandfather. My mother worked for him in his real estate office in the early 1930's

AlvaroLegido Jan 10, 2013 9:49 PM

Late 1910's/early 1920's style...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horthos (Post 5967629)
This design right next to the stationers corporation.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...72853x1280.jpg

This design made me think of your avatar. It is no wonder, Horthos, you were sensitive walking by...

oldstuff Jan 10, 2013 9:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5967835)
Great post, Horthos--downtown will never be what we imagine it was before the long postwar decline, but it is fantastic to see the demolitions slowing and the historic fabric of the district being restored. Who'd have ever thought? Anyway, let's see.... The Schulte-United store was at 529 S Broadway, built in 1928 as part of a national chain. It didn't last long...

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/9206/horthosads.jpgLAT June 19, 1932/Dec 28, 1934


The sunburst was in front of 523 S Spring, a narrow building between the Stationers Corp and the Alexandria. 523 S Spring had a number of tenants on its ground floor in the 1910s and '20s, among them the Prudential Building-Loan Association ('20s) and before that, the stationery outlet of Stratford & Green Booksellers...not that any of this explains the sunburst.... The Angelus Drug Co was at 214 West 4th St... the blue-and-white tiling seems to be a remnant. I can't find anything about Glasgow Tailors....

My aunt worked at the Stationers Corporation, probably in the 30's. I have at home right now a chalkboard eraser (the old felt kind) that has a label on the back that says "Stationers Corporation". Since we have a big chalkboard in the kitchen we use to write down grocery lists, the eraser is still in use every week. As for Stationers, I understood that they were sort of the precursor to Office Depot or Staples.

oldstuff Jan 10, 2013 10:07 PM

I don't know specifically what street the Palms station was located on but you can still see the building. it was moved to Heritage Square in Highland Park and serves for the gift shop-ticket booth now

ethereal_reality Jan 10, 2013 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 5968167)
The name "White Spot" probably came because the man who developed Magnolia Park was Harry White. He had a real estate business and also was the one who was responsible for cutting Barham Blvd through what was then called Dark Canyon. Mr White was my cousin's maternal grandfather. My mother worked for him in his real estate office in the early 1930's

Very interesting. Thanks for the information oldstuff. I am glad Magnolia Park was brought up again because now we have the definitive answer.
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ethereal_reality Jan 10, 2013 11:32 PM

I haven't heard of this inn before and certainly don't recognize the building.


http://imageshack.us/a/img163/1720/a...iewinnebay.jpg
ebay

reverse
http://imageshack.us/a/img853/9002/a...ewinnebay1.jpg





I found only one other photograph.

http://imageshack.us/a/img13/4641/aa...ewwmarkatb.jpg
https://www.hollywoodphotographs.com...?c=20&i=1&r=96

Bruce Torrence at Hollywood Photographs locates the inn on Brokaw Place at Hollywood Blvd.

http://imageshack.us/a/img805/4020/a...iewinninfo.jpg
https://www.hollywoodphotographs.com...?c=20&i=1&r=96


Well, I checked my 1947 street map and there is no Brokaw Place. I also checked Google street views without success.



After numerous attempts, I finally found this reference to Brokaw Place.

http://imageshack.us/a/img835/3384/a...ewbrokawpl.jpg
http://cityclerk.lacity.org/lacitycl...number=06-0407

..but I still can't locate it on Google street views. :(

Does anyone have information on Brokaw Place or the Mountain View Inn/Hotel?
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FredH Jan 11, 2013 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5965444)
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6...3ba6a97970b-pi Los Angeles Times file photo

Muir, above, has a terrific description of the Busgy Siegel crime scene and, yes, she’s the reporter who got hit in the rear during the attempted killing of Mickey Cohen at Sherry’s in 1949. Trivia note: The Times’ only mention of Muir being shot is in a Hedda Hopper column that says Muir was sporting an “Italian sunset.”

rcarlton:
It seems that I may have underestimated Florabel. I was reading an old blog in the L.A. Times called The Daily Mirror by Larry Harnisch. At the end of his column, I found this comment by one of his readers:

"Hey Larry: My Old Man broke into newspapers in the mid-1920's. He answered an ad for a 'copy boy' and was interviewed by the editor, Florabel Muir. As it turned out, she wanted a bootlegger/gofer, not a copy boy. The newspaper, in Pasadena is long defunct as are most of the papers that I have worked for. He stuck with papers until he retired in the late 1960's and followed Florabel's career and even sent her a get-well card after she got shot while riding in the back seat of a car with Mickey Cohen during a botched gangland hit. The driver that night, Neddy Herbert was killed and Mickey wasn't even scratched. My dad said that she was quite a 'tough old gal' who once knocked Franchot Tone out with one punch at a night club on Sunset Strip. Speaking of Tone, why don't you do a piece on his ex, the movie starlet Barbara Payton. I met her in the early 1960s when I was working at the old Hollywood Citizen News. She lived across the street at the Wilcox Hotel and by that time had gone from a $10,000 a week starlet to a $5 a trick street hooker. Interesting stuff."
Yer pal, Bill Hilser

Franchot Tone seems to have lost a lot of bar fights. Remember the one with Tom Neal?

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/87/tonec.jpg
Mutiny on the Bounty Trailer

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8476/imagescapnrkhu.jpg
www.peoplefamous.why.com

GaylordWilshire Jan 11, 2013 1:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5968382)
I haven't heard of this inn before and certainly don't recognize the building.
http://imageshack.us/a/img163/1720/a...iewinnebay.jpg
ebay
Does anyone have information on Brokaw Place or the Mountain View Inn/Hotel?
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The Mountain View sat on the southerly of J. B. Brokaw's two tracts in the block of Prospect Ave/Hollywood
Blvd between Bronson and Gower. Brokaw Place ran from H'wood Blvd south a block to Carlton Way, as
indicated in gray next to the hotel on the 1921 insurance map below.

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/9...w1921baist.jpgHistoric Map Works


A little more history on the Inn:

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/1...tartscompl.jpgLAT


The hotel was rebuilt after the fire, and continued to advertise into the early '20s. Not sure when it disappeared. Given the buildings and
parking lots now there, Brokaw Place appears to have been ignored way before the official "vacation" you cited earlier:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5968382)
After numerous attempts, I finally found this reference to Brokaw Place.

http://imageshack.us/a/img835/3384/a...ewbrokawpl.jpg
http://cityclerk.lacity.org/lacitycl...number=06-0407
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ethereal_reality Jan 11, 2013 2:53 AM

:previous: Thank you GaylordWilshire...I knew you would come through.

Brokaw Place
http://imageshack.us/a/img152/5171/a...tainvsspgw.jpg




and today....so where is this 5 foot wide walkway? -gone forever obviously.
http://imageshack.us/a/img594/1063/aabmountainv1.jpg
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ethereal_reality Jan 11, 2013 3:13 AM

John B. Brokaw residence at 539 E. Prospect Avenue (now 6029 Hollywood blvd.)

http://imageshack.us/a/img692/2584/a...brokawresb.jpg
http://paradiseleased.wordpress.com/...ifornia-hotel/


originally posted by GaylordWilshire
http://imageshack.us/a/img502/3162/a...brokawssp1.jpg
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ethereal_reality Jan 11, 2013 3:49 AM

ahhh...Mimeograph memories.


Canoga Park Prom circa 1944.

http://imageshack.us/a/img32/7259/aa...canogapark.jpg
http://www.themuseumsfv.org/


http://imageshack.us/a/img59/3047/aa...nogaparkmu.jpg
http://www.themuseumsfv.org/

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unihikid Jan 11, 2013 4:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 5968267)
I don't know specifically what street the Palms station was located on but you can still see the building. it was moved to Heritage Square in Highland Park and serves for the gift shop-ticket booth now

oldstuffthanks,last yr when i was living in LA i went on a tuesday and the park was closed, and since my move out to dallas ive been waiting for a trip back to la to see the building.

ethereal_reality Jan 11, 2013 4:57 AM

The overlooked Kipling Hotel at 4077 W. 3rd Street. (at Kingsley Drive)

http://imageshack.us/a/img204/8357/a...elnecorner.jpg
google street view




matchbook cover
http://imageshack.us/a/img171/6229/a...ericlcatfl.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79761301@N00/7743698476/






Excellent photo by Marc Shur
http://imageshack.us/a/img502/6477/a...7marcshurf.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/70839390@N00/6771924663/




by Corey Miller
http://imageshack.us/a/img26/41/aabk...7coreymill.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/toomuchfire/5402365379/





I love this giant arrow above the sign. (I wonder if it flashed?)

http://imageshack.us/a/img441/41/aab...7coreymill.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/toomuchfire/5402365379/




Here is the Kipling with it's 4 story annex. (and a nice view of the noirish arrow)

http://imageshack.us/a/img96/7716/aa...telloopnet.jpg
http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/17386...os-Angeles-CA/





below: Aerial.

http://imageshack.us/a/img839/7375/a...erialannex.jpg
google aerial




The Kipling with the ground floor somewhat non-offensive.

http://imageshack.us/a/img838/3323/a...elloopnet2.jpg
http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/17386...os-Angeles-CA/




The Kipling today, with fuckery on the ground floor.

http://imageshack.us/a/img706/9269/aabkiplingodd1a.jpg
gsv






a w f u l
http://imageshack.us/a/img842/791/aabkiplingodd.jpg
gsv






The underground garage, as advertised in the 1940's matchbook, is visible at far left.

http://imageshack.us/a/img829/727/aabkiplingodd2.jpg
gsv


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