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GaylordWilshire Dec 16, 2018 5:31 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/QCDDX6B8/NLArepubclub1-bmp.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/P50V1Cd9/uscsilver-bmp.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/SRGhjW8W/NLArepubclub2-bmp.jpg
LA Herald July 4, 1897



Ran across the above newspaper image of a house once at 533 South Main St while looking for something else...fun to see the floor plan with it. USC has a photo on which the drawing appears to have been based. Looks to be a typical 1880s Italiante city residence. The Rowans of the real estate family owned it and rented it to the Silver Republicans*--then sold it in 1905.


Convenient poultry-supplies shopping right across the street:
https://i.postimg.cc/RCQr9LvF/leespoultry.jpg


In early 1910, police raided the premises looking for illegal gambling...then in 1911 Woodley's Optic Theatre replaced it. Turns out the estimable ER and HossC got a handle on the address four years ago in post 23688 AND in post 26613 the next year--with more photographic images of the house.


Later images of the theater's exterior and interior:

https://i.postimg.cc/43J7L549/woodleysext-bmp.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/9fJ4v7zN/woodleys1-bmp.jpg



*Had to refresh my memory about Silver Republicans (if I ever had a memory in the first place). Here's what Wikipedia has to say:

"The Silver Republican Party was a United States political party in the 1890s. It was so named because it split from the Republican Party over the issues of free silver (effectively, expansionary monetary policy) and bimetallism. The main Republican Party supported the gold standard. Silver Republican strength was concentrated in the Western states where mining, particularly silver mining, was an important industry. Silver Republicans were elected to the Congress from several Western states. In 1896, Silver Republicans supported Democratic presidential nominee William Jennings Bryan over William McKinley. After 1900, the Silver Republican Party was on the decline and most of its members rejoined the Republican Party."

HossC Dec 16, 2018 9:08 PM

I've just read an interesting story which will hopefully influence future similar situations in places like Los Angeles.

Last year, Ross Johnston bought the Richard Neutra-designed 1936 Twin Peaks house in San Francisco for $1.7m. This year he demolished the house and then applied for a permit to build his planned new home. Unfortunately for Mr Johnston, the City Planning Commission has just ruled that he must rebuild a replica of the Neutra house and include a street-side plaque explaining what happened.

The story can be found at various sources including the San Francisco Chronicle.

CityBoyDoug Dec 16, 2018 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8410783)
I've just read an interesting story which will hopefully influence future similar situations in places like Los Angeles.

Last year, Ross Johnston bought the Richard Neutra-designed 1936 Twin Peaks house in San Francisco for $1.7m. This year he demolished the house and then applied for a permit to build his planned new home. Unfortunately for Mr Johnston, the City Planning Commission has just ruled that he must rebuild a replica of the Neutra house and include a street-side plaque explaining what happened.

The story can be found at various sources including the San Francisco Chronicle.

The several remodels of the house transformed it into a piece of junk.

From the article..."...the historic integrity of the Neutra design had been erased over time — first in a 1968 fire and later in a series of remodels in the 1980s and 1990s. "

ethereal_reality Dec 17, 2018 1:40 PM

mystery bungalow.

from Photoplay 1930

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Pf2WaD.jpg
internet/archive

Movietone City eventually became 20th Century Fox Studios.



This aerial of Fox Movietone was taken a year after the Photograph article. [c.1931]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/DX1Ysw.jpg
Hollywood Photographs

hmmm...I think...I might see the bungalow but I'm only about 53.5% ;) sure that it's the right building.

Does anyone see John McCormack's bungalow? (I'm curious to see if it matches my candidate)
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f.y.i John McCormack was a famous Irish tenor.

This bit of information is also quite interesting.

"McCormack bought Runyon Canyon in Hollywood in 1930 from Carman Runyon.
McCormack saw and liked the estate while there filming Song o' My Heart (1930), an early all-talking, all-singing picture.
He used his salary for this movie to purchase the estate and built a mansion he called 'San Patrizio', after Saint Patrick.
McCormack and his wife lived in the mansion until they returned to England in 1938."
wiki

Hmmm....have we seen McCormack's mansion, 'San Patrizio', on NLA?

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ethereal_reality Dec 17, 2018 2:52 PM

Tis the season.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/Twv0ea.jpg
35mm negative found in old file

Farmers Insurance Group building [1937] on the southeast corner of Wilshire and Rimpau.

I had this building confused with the Golden State Mutual Life building by Paul Williams.



Since I like mysteries, can anyone tell me what we see down the street?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/R49OB3.jpg
detail

Not only the tower...but the bright sign with red in the middle distance.

Prove to the world how sleuthy we are! :)

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Ed Workman Dec 17, 2018 3:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8410445)
mystery room.




There are two photographer's stamps on the reverse.


Tracy, Photographer
102 S. Spring St.
Los Angeles, Cal.,
Phone A 9623
Established 1902




A closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/wLIJVU.png
EBAY

I wonder if this photograph was taken in the Pacific Electric Building at 6th and Main?
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I say no
The wood ceiling appears to be too old and flammable for 6th and main
The windows do not appear to be correct.
My guess
Los Angeles Pacific depot between 4th and 5th on Hill.

HossC Dec 17, 2018 6:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8411380)

Since I like mysteries, can anyone tell me what we see down the street?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/R49OB3.jpg
detail

Not only the tower...but the bright sign with red in the middle distance.

Prove to the world how sleuthy we are! :)

My guess for the tower would be the Wilshire United Methodist Church at 4350 Wilshire Boulevard.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Methodist1.jpg
GSV

The lights may be from the Ebell of Los Angeles/Wilshire Ebell Theatre, but there's only a small neon sign for the theater there today.

HossC Dec 17, 2018 7:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8411318)

mystery bungalow.

from Photoplay 1930

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Pf2WaD.jpg
internet/archive

Movietone City eventually became 20th Century Fox Studios.

This aerial of Fox Movietone was taken a year after the Photograph article. [c.1931]

...

hmmm...I think...I might see the bungalow but I'm only about 53.5% ;) sure that it's the right building.

Does anyone see John McCormack's bungalow? (I'm curious to see if it matches my candidate)

Were you thinking of the house I've arrowed at the right?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...kBungalow1.jpg
Hollywood Photographs

The UCSB site has some 1927/28 aerial views before the buildings above were constructed, and some very detailed images from 1939. The detail view below is from one of the 1939 images. The center houses seem to match the McCormack's bungalow and its neighbor, but with the thatch replaced with a regular tiled roof.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...kBungalow2.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

Noir_Noir Dec 18, 2018 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8411318)

Hmmm....have we seen McCormack's mansion, 'San Patrizio', on NLA?

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Back in 2011 you posted this picture of San Patrizio/The Pines in reply to this post from 3940dxer -


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=5253



Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5485900)
3940dxer-
This is the ONLY photo I have of San Patrizio/The Pines. On the right through the trees there seems to be a enormous picture window.

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/134...hnmccormic.jpg
LAPL

http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=54420


Not sure if this one has been posted previousy - John Mccormack at San Patrizio in the 1930's.


https://i.imgur.com/hT19Uoi.jpg
hollywoodphotographs.com


Some more with his family in the grounds here

jdcamb Dec 18, 2018 2:19 AM

Best thread ever...

CityBoyDoug Dec 18, 2018 2:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8411742)
My guess for the tower would be the Wilshire United Methodist Church at 4350 Wilshire Boulevard.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Methodist1.jpg
GSV

The lights may be from the Ebell of Los Angeles/Wilshire Ebell Theatre, but there's only a small neon sign for the theater there today.

The two palms at the right side are displaying their sex life. On each tree we see the female at the lower portion and the male is at or near the top. I won't go into the intimate details as this is a family thread. :runaway:

Bristolian Dec 18, 2018 4:56 AM

Under Construction
 
I've been messing around with Instagram lately and came across this photo of Griffith Observatory under construction in 1933. I did a search of NLA and do not believe this shot has been seen here.

https://i.imgur.com/2SNlrDq.png?1
https://www.instagram.com/p/Be9BDnDHrnv/

ethereal_reality Dec 18, 2018 6:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8411781)
Were you thinking of the house I've arrowed at the right?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...kBungalow1.jpg
Hollywood Photographs

Yep! That's the one Hoss.

ethereal_reality Dec 18, 2018 6:55 AM

Do you think this old photograph was taken inside the Pacific Electric Bldg. at 6th and Main?
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/wLIJVU.png
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Workman (Post 8411432)
I say no
The wood ceiling appears to be too old and flammable for 6th and main
The windows do not appear to be correct.
My guess
Los Angeles Pacific depot between 4th and 5th on Hill.

Good deductions Ed.

Larger view
HERE

ethereal_reality Dec 18, 2018 7:22 AM

Just saw this on ebay.

"1913 Los Angeles, California RPPC Photo Postcard House at 3643 S. GRAND AVENUE"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/1stgP9.jpg
Ebay



Address written on reverse.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/j2iaUx.jpg

Joe Gillis Dec 18, 2018 7:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8412425)
Yep! That's the one Hoss.

Its still there!

https://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps0qgsx61i.png

https://www.google.com/maps/search/T.../data=!3m1!1e3

ethereal_reality Dec 18, 2018 3:34 PM

:previous: Hi Joe Gillis...how have you been buddy?
..ummm...which post are you referring to?

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As for 3643 S. Grand Ave.

I didn't notice the little boy on the balcony.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/GInh5j.jpg
detail

Is that a construction paper snowman in the window?

That; and the three dormant plants make me think this photograph might have been taken in the winter.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Lxir3N.jpg

1. and 2. look like sagebrush [odinthor?]. (another couple of months and a strong gust of wind might send them tumbling down Grand Ave.)

Number 3. looks like it might be yucca.



also too...
I've been staring at the curb situation. The more I look at it the more surreal it becomes.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/t18wW1.jpg

OK...I see what's going on. It's mostly reflection...and the freshly painted curb appears to be almost double in height. (compared to normal curbs)

But still...the thin strip of grass(?) between the curb and it's reflection seems like it shouldn't be there.

...or are my eyes deceiving me

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GaylordWilshire Dec 18, 2018 3:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8406623)
mystery gas station.


"Opening of Santa Claus display at station, Shell Oil Co., Southern California, 1930." (but it says 1929 on one of the giant books in the display)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/RMiB4B.jpg
USC DIGITAL ARCHIVES
USC didn't list Van Fleet, Durkee or Belmont...but they did list a ton of other details.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/IhTaXL.jpg


Meanwhile, over at The Homestead Blog, Paul R. Spitzzeri's truly great site that carries the subtitle "Creating advocates for history through the stories of greater Los Angeles,"
a new post describes Christmas the year before at another Shell station up Wilshire at Harvard--which must have been Wilshire Super Service at 3618. AND...Mr. Spitzzeri—
the director of the fantastic Workman and Temple Family Homestead Museum, by the way—has uncovered some great NOIR having to do with the photographer of the 1928
Shell Xmas scene, a different one than of Xmas 1929 at the Shell station at Catalina.... This photographer was up to other things, like leaping from a train....
The full story is HERE.

PS Anyone else curious about the balloons used in both Xmas scenes? Hmmm

https://i.postimg.cc/DZ96PFjc/NLASan...l-17-Dec28.jpg
The Homestead Blog

https://i.postimg.cc/pdX5475M/NLAxmasgassta.jpg
LAT Dec 12, 1928

ethereal_reality Dec 18, 2018 4:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8412681)

Anyone else curious about the balloons used in the Xmas scenes?

I AM GW!



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/AU2gyF.jpg

They look like cartoon acorns.

What were balloons made out of back then? Whatever the material was..it made for some really cool lookin' balloons.

Joe Gillis Dec 18, 2018 5:13 PM

Doh! sorry I meant the little thatched cottage on the Fox lot. its the one just off centre shot with the large tree and white chimney


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