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GaylordWilshire Nov 2, 2018 2:57 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/PJ6g6gCg/laplfirefull-bmp.jpgLAPL


A must-read--a brilliant writer on the 1986 fire:


https://i.postimg.cc/Gm9ySG5V/librarybook4nla.jpg

Earl Boebert Nov 2, 2018 4:12 PM

News for Flickr users:

https://gizmodo.com/flickr-is-going-...you-1830177165

Earl

Martin Pal Nov 2, 2018 5:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8365739)
Here's another photograph from the same group of cabinet cards.

We have probably seen this one before (a loooooong time ago), but I have a couple questions I'd like to ask. (of course ;))

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Rwy5ok.jpg


The man in the light(er) colored hat instantly brought to mind Will Rogers to me.

https://americacomesalive.com/i/will...40-210x300.jpg

Martin Pal Nov 2, 2018 5:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 8365548)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8365525)
A day late, but here's THE PUMPKIN PALACE:
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;) http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=29242
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Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8365739)
We have probably seen this one before (a loooooong time ago), but I have a couple questions I'd like to ask. (of course ;))
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8365616)
I also posted a bit about the Sunset Orange a few months ago: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=47493
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NLA has become so big that who can remember all of the things posted on here!? (This is a good problem.)
Someone should go through the forum and make an index of all the places and photos. :haha:

I know that's :koko: but I thought I'd say it anyway!

On the other hand, I guess some duplication isn't necessarily a bad thing depending on where the photos are sourced:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 8366135)
News for Flickr users: Flickr Is Going to Delete a Bunch of Photos—Back Up Yours Now.

https://gizmodo.com/flickr-is-going-...you-1830177165

Earl
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ethereal_reality Nov 3, 2018 3:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8365779)

...my brain hurts.

I'm sorry your brain hurts. sad

but that was some mighty fine sleuthing you did on that first cabinet card. (even if you were wrong off by a tiny bit.

As always, I appreciate your help.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 8365798)
I just found another view of the Rogniat home (at right), c. 1890. The information with this photo says the Rogniat home burned May 18, 1891:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psme5goybq.jpg

ebay

Amazing find FW! If the house burned down in 1891...that means the cabinet card must be from the late 1880s. ( they don't call me a sleuth for nuttin' ;))




The windmill is huge!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/S2qcOy.jpg
DETAIL

Unless it's a lot closer to the camera. (but it looks fairly close to the house)




This is a bridge, right? Is it just going over a road...or is there a stream as well?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/fuxu3d.jpg
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I am surprised by how wide it is...especially for the late 1880s.

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BDiH Nov 3, 2018 4:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8365525)
.

A day late, but here's THE PUMPKIN PALACE:

http://wesclark.com/burbank/pumpkin_3.jpgDept. Water & Power

Caption: View showing the Pumpkin Palace located at 3611 Magnolia Boulevard near Hollywood Way, in Burbank. (1927.)


At some point it was called The Studio Club.
Not sure I'd want to tangle with that one owner.
https://waterandpower.org/B%20Histor...tudio_Club.jpgDept. Water & Power

From the site: The Pumpkin Building would wear many hats throughout its existence. It started out as at least two nightclubs in the 1920's (Pumpkin Palace and Studio Club), later a church called Valley Gospel, an inn called the Pumpkin Inn, a real estate office called Stan Summeril Real Estate, and later a hardware store (Magnolia Park Hardware).

Thanks for the memories! I grew up around the corner from the Pumpkin when it was a hardware store. We lived on Chandler when it was still a gravel road (I remember the day they paved it with asphalt) and the old steam trains operated adjacent to Chandler.

I was watching the Spade Cooley show on TV one afternoon, when my grandfather walked me up to the Pumpkin to buy me some rope to teach me how to make a lariat. Albin's Drugs was on the corner where Porto's is today and Albin's Hobbies and Toys was where the Train Shack is now. I recall when they opened the California Theatre and when they closed the Magnolia Theatre, both on Magnolia Boulevard.

ethereal_reality Nov 3, 2018 5:00 AM

Does anyone know where silent film star Louise Brooks lived?

I came across several photographs of her- that were taken at her home, and in her backyard, in 1925.


I'll start with this one. (they get more interesting as I go along) note the wrought iron lamp

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/8fzhVL.jpg
fromthebygone








Louise having tea with her younger sister, June.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/xWvw8D.jpg
fromthebygone




I find the next two photos especially intriguing becase of the ornamental 'garden', that was constructed around a small group of trees in her backyard.
I don't believe I have ever seen anything quite like it.

It's almost like a little stage.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/cRhX1F.jpg
fromthebygone

If you ask me (and you didn't), the poor trees seem a bit confined. I wonder if something like this is detrimental to the trees? (Yoo Hoo, odinthor)







This one is my favorite. A regal spot for a photograph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/bZodtL.jpg

fromthebygone


If we're able to figure out where she lived [at least in 1925], I thought it'd be fun to to snoop around the property [via google_earth] and see if this strange garden feature is still intact.

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Louise Brooks, as LuLu, in her most famous film, Pandora's Box. [1929]

https://imageshack.com/a/img921/5240/bjlMk7.gif
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https://imageshack.com/a/img924/5302/UMSTL0.gif
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Gotta' love LuLu.



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ethereal_reality Nov 3, 2018 5:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8365882)
A. E. CRONENWETT

LEADING JEWELLER

MONROVIA USA
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A possible Doctor Percival location.

https://i.imgur.com/ZiGPxv8.jpg
rescarta.lapl.org


Although the date for the listing is later, it's in the right vicinity for the first horse drawn street railway.

"On July 1, 1874, the modest, horse-drawn cars of the Spring and Sixth Street Railroad became the first streetcars to roll down Los Angeles streets. Founded by lawyer Robert M. Widney, the Spring & Sixth operated a regular schedule, running cars hourly on weekdays between 6:30 a.m. and 10 p.m. For a ten-cent fare, passengers could ride the one-and-a-half-mile route from the intersection of Temple and Spring south to Sixth, and then west to Figueroa."

kcet.org
:shrug:

Thanks for your help Noir Noir.

R. M. Widney [attorney] is listed, with scant details, in the 1875 Southern California Directory.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/sFxKH0.jpg
lapl



By 1887-88 he has become a judge, the president of the University Bank of Los Angeles, and a real estate dealer living at 310 S. Olive Street.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/H12Sfz.jpg
lapl




There are quite a few more Widneys listed in the 1894 L.A. Directory.

R. M. is still the president of the bank, but has moved to 416 S. Olive St.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/Hm1rSF.jpg

I didn't find any indication that he owned a street car 'railroad'. I'll keep looking.


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Lomara Nov 3, 2018 8:04 AM

Louise Brooks, Helen Twelvetrees, Laurel Canyon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8366982)
Does anyone know where silent film star Louise Brooks lived?

I came across several photographs of her- that were taken at her home, and in her backyard, in 1925.


I'll start with this one. (they get more interesting as I go along) note the wrought iron lamp

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/8fzhVL.jpg
fromthebygone


A google search led me to the "Louise Brooks Society" blog which says Louise Brooks lived in Helen Twelvetrees old Laurel Canyon home. It didn't provide an address anywhere, though. But there are many photos of Louise around the property with current photos of the inside and outside. It also identifies the photos as from 1927, not 1925. The trees may or may not be the same ones, but the "stone throne" is no more.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4871/...fee17b0a_c.jpg
Louise Brooks Stone Throne by Kimberly, on Flickr

There are tons more photos on the blog. It's broken down in 4 parts. Unfortunately all of the text is small and embedded in images.

Part 1: http://louisebrookssociety.blogspot....n-home-of.html

Part 2: http://louisebrookssociety.blogspot....ome-of_12.html

Part 3: http://louisebrookssociety.blogspot....ome-of_13.html

Part 4: http://louisebrookssociety.blogspot....ome-of_14.html

More googling led me to an undated page for a property in Laurel Canyon named "Twelvetrees", also without an address. It appears to be the same place judging by the staircase photo within. It has been painted but appears to be the same one. This property page says they restored the home, and the photos appear to be quite a few years old.

http://www.jamanproperties.com/twelvetrees.html

So, I have found the house, but not the address! I know the sleuths here will find it.

Handsome Stranger Nov 3, 2018 8:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8366982)
Does anyone know where silent film star Louise Brooks lived?

I came across several photographs of her- that were taken at her home, and in her backyard, in 1925.

Just to back up what Lomara wrote...the photos must be from 1927 or later. Louise Brooks' whereabouts in 1925/1926 are discussed in her book Lulu in Hollywood. She was in New York City then, and it wasn't until 1927 that she moved to Hollywood.

Scott Charles Nov 3, 2018 9:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lomara (Post 8367036)
A google search led me to the "Louise Brooks Society" blog which says Louise Brooks lived in Helen Twelvetrees old Laurel Canyon home.

So, I have found the house, but not the address! I know the sleuths here will find it.

Is this it?

Quote:

8127 Gould Ave Los Angeles, CA 90046

Vintage one bedroom, one bath with bonus/office area, small yard and back patio in Laurel Canyon. Airy and light, lots of windows and sunshine, surrounded by greenery and trees. First floor of two story rustic country house, once owned by silent film star Helen Twelvetrees.

https://www.apartments.com/8127-goul...es-ca/rlx7ek3/
https://i.imgur.com/Bfu0GeE.jpg

GOOGLE MAPS LINK

Lomara Nov 3, 2018 9:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8367046)

No. I found that earlier too but it's tiny. No pool. Look at the property link I posted earlier for the description of the property. It's HUGE.

Quote:

FEATURES: Five bedrooms/7 baths; private, gated entry and driveway; walled courtyard with koi pond and fountain; master suite with sitting room; formal, paneled dining room; sunroom; mature landscaping; 180 degree city views; custom leaded glass windows; diver’s pool with Jacuzzi and pool pavilion; sleeping porch; guest house and walk in vault.
http://www.jamanproperties.com/twelvetrees.html

Lomara Nov 3, 2018 9:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 8367042)
Just to back up what Lomara wrote...the photos must be from 1927 or later. Louise Brooks' whereabouts in 1925/1926 are discussed in her book Lulu in Hollywood. She was in New York City then, and it wasn't until 1927 that she moved to Hollywood.

I just found this page regarding the documentary film about Louise Brooks. More photos of the house exterior here.

http://www.documentaryofalostgirl.co...of-a-lost-girl

And then I found Movieland directory that says at one time Louise lived at 366 Laurel Canyon. If you read the Louise Brooks Society blog entries, it mentions the street was renumbered. If we dig up older maps maybe the renumbered address can be found.

http://movielanddirectory.com/star.cfm?star=26953

Scott Charles Nov 3, 2018 10:31 AM

Found it - it's 8110 Gould Avenue:

https://i.imgur.com/r0ybA7b.jpg

Link to house on Google Maps

https://i.imgur.com/ahpe2MO.png

https://i.imgur.com/lLuOjms.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/s0ZFSmS.jpg

The Brooks house is just a few doors down from the house I posted in my previous post...

https://i.imgur.com/uqxBXEV.jpg

The real estate link in my other post (LINK) claims that the house with the green border is the Twelvetrees house... they must be mistaken. Either that, or Helen Twelvetrees owned houses on both sides of the same street.

Lomara Nov 3, 2018 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8367058)

Well done Scott! I found it too and was going to post the address only you beat me to it. Besides, your images are so much nicer than what I had.

Scott Charles Nov 3, 2018 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lomara (Post 8367060)
Well done Scott! I found it too and was going to post the address only you beat me to it. Besides, your images are so much nicer than what I had.

Sorry if I beat you to the punch, Lomara! I'm just glad we were both able to find it! :)

Lomara Nov 3, 2018 5:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8367058)
Found it - it's 8110 Gould Avenue:

https://i.imgur.com/r0ybA7b.jpg

Link to house on Google Maps



The Brooks house is just a few doors down from the house I posted in my previous post...

https://i.imgur.com/uqxBXEV.jpg

The real estate link in my other post (LINK) claims that the house with the green border is the Twelvetrees house... they must be mistaken. Either that, or Helen Twelvetrees owned houses on both sides of the same street.

While checking real estate sites, I'm seeing the property with the address 1881 Laurel Canyon as well as 8100 Gould. However, each real estate site I check has varying details on build date and number of bedrooms. I wonder what state the public records are in. One has last sold 1990, one shows last sold 2005.

I also wondered about the other site allegedly owned by Helen Twelvetrees. Redfin puts it at 8125 Gould with a build date of 1959. She passed in 1958, so maybe this is on the right location but was torn down and rebuilt?

Martin Pal Nov 3, 2018 8:43 PM

As with Flickr monkeying around with their policies...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 8366135)
News for Flickr users: Flickr Is Going to Delete a Bunch of Photos—Back Up Yours Now.

https://gizmodo.com/flickr-is-going-...you-1830177165

Earl
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...in searching things on NLA I've recently discovered photos, like the one below, with new watermarks on them
that were not there when originally posted:

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/newberry.jpg


A search shows photobucket is up to some new tricks:


Quote:

Proudly Hosted on Photobucket watermark

Photobucket hosts over 30 million images for free every day! In order to keep our basic hosting services absolutely free for all members, we overlay a discreet “proudly hosted on Photobucket” watermark on all images that are displayed by our free members on sites other than photobucket.com.

By watermarking images, we are able to reduce our brand marketing expenses to offset our bandwidth costs. Everyone wins!

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Martin Pal Nov 3, 2018 9:42 PM

Also, E_R, in the first part of a post you made, do you know why the picture is NOT what you are describing? Just noticing a lot of weird things today.

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7413459)
A commenter over at eastsiderla asked this question about the Crittenton and Booth Home for Unwed Mothers.
"Is this the reason there’s a Florence Nightingale statue in Lincoln Heights? I’ve always wondered about that."
First of all, I didn't know there was a statue of Florence Nightingale in Lincoln Heights.
It turns out, she's located in Lincoln Park, on the southeast side of the lake (circled below)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/HI74gc.jpg
google_earth
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Martin Pal Nov 3, 2018 10:10 PM

Since Daylight Savings Time is to be adjusted again this weekend...

https://www.creativetourist.com/cms/...SafetyLast.jpg

Do any out of towners/staters know that it's on the California ballot in the next election?

https://mediaassets.10news.com/photo....0_640_480.jpg


I'm inclined to vote yes.


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