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ethereal_reality Feb 18, 2017 9:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tehmeh (Post 7716332)
One of the more notable films is 1951's "The Terrible Truth. "This particular film is laden with L.A. and film sites
in and around Stanley Avenue in the Melrose-Fairfax area.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDXR0p69S8M

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vOF-YOIBpvA/hqdefault.jpg
YouTube

I'm curious about the scene below.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/oD5Ku4.jpg
screen-grab from 'The Terrible Truth'.

Does anyone recognize the large cream colored building in the background? ( there is writing above the porch....'religious science' maybe)



As the camera moves a bit to the right...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/X9mAhj.jpg

The street the kids are parked on, appears to be at an angle to the street in the background.


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BifRayRock Feb 18, 2017 9:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelton Verdugo (Post 5333914)
Wow, that camouflage netting over Lockheed is amazing! I'd heard about that project, but never realized it was so elaborate.

The Merle Norman Studio building is a beauty.

it was Here's an interesting section of Vine Street, between Sunset and Hollywood Blvds. I believe the big streamline deco building, then housing gift shops and a bowling alley was built in 1937.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...vineSt1941.jpg
personal collection

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...SunsetVine.jpg
Warner Home Video

You can get a glimpse of it in "Mildred Pierce".

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...riedVineSt.jpg
personal collection photo by Bob Plunkett

Here's a view after Tom Breneman moved in, broadcasting his popular "Breakfast in Hollywood" radio program from the site. Before the mid forties, he occupied the former Hollywood Tropics nightclub, the neighboring building just south of 1539 Vine St. Mmmm, "Glorifried Ham 'n' Eggs"! Yessir!

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...9/MDY_orig.jpg
Warner Home Video

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o..._AhFongs_1.jpg
Warner Home Video

Both buildings can be seen in back projection shots in "My Dream is Yours", a 1949 Doris Day movie.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...DY_ahFongs.jpg
Warner Home Video

It looks like the ghost image of "Breneman" can be seen behind the dimensional letters sign for "Ah Fong's" restaurant.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...ineStStart.jpg
Sony Pictures Home Entertainment

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...589/VineSt.jpg
Sony Pictures Home Entertainment

The block makes an appearance as a matte in the 1991 "Bugsy", a biopic about Los Angeles mobster Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...VineSt1991.jpg

I visited the spot in the early '90's. At that point, the old recreation center building was used for taping "The Love Connection".

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...St_08_2010.jpg

When I visited the area last summer, I was surprised the see the building had been repurposed as a condo project. At least the beautiful facade was preserved and incorporated into the new (but overwhelming) construction.
I don't know what the deal is with the Schwab's sign.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...eBasRelief.jpg

The bas relief detail on the corner has held up well.





The above area was indeed iconic, the address being approximately 1555 Vine St. But how about a little further south, circa 1937? I think this image has previously seen the NLA light. Probably taken from near Selma and east side of Vine looking S x SW (note Mueller Bros sign in distance). The proliferation of signage seems far more charming than the ever-expanding and overly-dense megaliths that replaced it.



http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...psni0lqcnk.jpgGoogleMaps



1937 - Vine Street (Billy McCain's Finance Co., 1529 Vine St.)
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...b.jpg~original http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...0coll2/id/3449


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http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...e.jpg~original






Mueller Bros - on Sunset in distance
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...x.jpg~original



1509 Vine housed the Radio Transcription Company of America. Per LABP. a residence was built on the site in 1917 and replaced ten years later (1927) with the commercial structure, pictured here in '37. The structure was demolished 55 years later, in 1982.

Serve Schlitz - with Sunshine Vitamin D while playing badminton or tennis?
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...g.jpg~original




"Beer is good for you . . . but Schlitz is extra good for you." (It's the brewer's yeast.)
http://cms.wisconsinhistory.org/cmsg...Large/3569.jpghttp://cms.wisconsinhistory.org/cmsg...Large/3570.jpghttp://cms.wisconsinhistory.org/cmsg...Large/3905.jpg
http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Cont...tails=R:CS2859



"Gee Officer, I was only getting my daily requirement of Vitamin D. hiccup."



ethereal_reality Feb 18, 2017 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tehmeh (Post 7716332)


Here's a 2nd short scene I'm curious about.

#1

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/OCAitS.jpg


#2 (the building on the corner turns out to be a cafeteria)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/w641wT.jpg



#3 ( in this shot you get a glimpse down the street)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/8L3vQV.jpg


#4

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/ATOCkq.jpg


#5 mystery civic building

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/6dkKJ2.jpg

Does anyone recognize where this scene was filmed?
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GaylordWilshire Feb 18, 2017 10:48 PM

:previous:


The lady is being led from the car into the Hall of Justice... the cafeteria is at the swc of Broadway & Temple...


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics17/00018435.jpg
LAPL

BifRayRock Feb 18, 2017 11:00 PM




Source identifies this pre-pavement residential image as Venice, California.
Could it be the 1700 Block of Washington Way, Venice? Early '30s?:yes:
Curious about the small objects in front of the buildings near the curb that vaguely resemble ice buckets/pails. Or could they be signs, "stay off the grass."

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...z.jpg~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20063


http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...n.jpg~original


Radio antenna masts? (Flagpole, chin up bars, goal post, clothes line:P)
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...x.jpg~original



http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...psjmhdqb36.jpgGoogleSVU



http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...0.jpg~originalGoogleSVU





CityBoyDoug Feb 18, 2017 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7716834)
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Source identifies this pre-pavement residential image as Venice, California.
Could it be the 1700 Block of Washington Way, Venice? Early '30s?:yes:
Curious about the small objects in front of the buildings near the curb that vaguely resemble ice buckets/pails. Or could they be signs, "stay off the grass."

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...z.jpg~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20063

Radio antenna masts? (Flagpole, chin up bars, goal post, clothes line:P)
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...x.jpg~original

Bif:

The photo shows the little cans that were the old garbage cans. Therefore it was 'garbage pickup day'. This was before sink disposers and consolidated trash hauling in LA County. This was also when everyone burned their trash in the backyard incinerators. All the hardware stores sold the cans.
I can remember that my mom taught me how to line the little can with old newspapers. Notice that each can has a dark ring below the lid....that's the newspaper lining showing.

tovangar2 Feb 19, 2017 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7716834)
Curious about the small objects in front of the buildings near the curb that vaguely resemble ice buckets/pails.

They're where water meters are usually located. I sent an email to Jack over at Water & Power. Maybe he knows (?)

John Maddox Roberts Feb 19, 2017 12:14 AM

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;7716731]:previous: An incinerator had crossed my mind too JMR, but I thought it would have a 'flue' on top. -but maybe the top part is just missing.

ER, my great-aunt's and the others I knew of never had flues. They were just open fire pits. You tossed in your burnable trash, set fire to it and stirred it with a stick until it was just ash. It was one of my earliest chores. I was always delighted when the fire reached paper with colored ink and the flames turned bright blue or green.

BifRayRock Feb 19, 2017 12:16 AM





:previous: Thanks CBD and T2. I understand most folks incinerated their trash and garbage pickup was a limited service, but with cans that small, the occupants must not have been big consumers. I also wondered about temporary water meters or access to water main cut-offs, since the street had yet to be paved. :shrug:



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Originally Posted by Ninja55 (Post 5206778)
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I'm not sure this is noirish enough or at all, but it's a cool pic. That's Bert Rovere on the left, then L.A. County Sheriff Eugene Biscailuz (1932-1958) and Silent Screen star Roman Navarro next to Bert. The other gent is unkown, but the back of the pick says "commish man", whatever that means.






Among other things, Eugene W. Biscailuz was a deputy in the LA County Sheriff's office in '07. He served as a member of the city's first planning commission in 1920. In '29 he was appointed the first Superintendent of the C Highway Patrol and later became "the" LA County Sheriff in 1932, a position he held until '58. So arguably he could have been called Sheriff Gene, Superintendent Gene or Commissioner Gene. "Ten-Four" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_W._Biscailuz




Here is Biscailuz in plain clothes, sometime in 1929 on South Main Street. Martin Petersen's Used Cars was at 1132 S. Main Street.
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...x.jpg~original http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...coll2/id/16872



http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...g.jpg~original



1930s - Los Angeles County Sheriffs Eugene Warren Biscailuz and his predecessor, William I. Traeger. As many NLA'rs are aware, Traeger was a Deputy US Marshall, Coached the 'SC football team (1908) and after his run as Sheriff, became a US Congressman. Evidently he was a good eater and rumor has it he was impervious to a frontal assault by small caliber arms. ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_I._Traeger
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The handsome silver trophy is symbolic of the city shooting championship. For the first time in Los Angeles' history the sheriff's office pistol team defeated the police department team in competition.
1934 - Chief "Two-Gun" Parker hands off shooting trophy to Sheriff Gene Biscailuz.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics17/00028055.jpghttp://jpg3.lapl.org/pics17/00028055.jpg



1948 - Alice Kelley (left), Sheriff Eugene Biscailuz sitting and holding a mask, and the late actress Debbie Reynolds.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics20/00029975.jpghttp://jpg3.lapl.org/pics20/00029975.jpg


odinthor Feb 19, 2017 1:02 AM

In re: Biscailuz (from my unpublished [so far!] notes [my notes on L.A. only go up to mid-1870s], a work in progress):

Biscailuz, Jean ca. 1810, born in France; 1860, present in L.A. as a plasterer; wife, Juana Boulantoya; son, Martin Vincent.

Biscailuz, Martin Vincent attorney; April 29, 1861, born in L.A.; father, Jean Biscailuz; May 20, 1882, married Maria Rosario Warren (desc. of Claudio Lopez), who at length divorced him; involved in litigating the Oxarart will, bagging a fee of $40,000, for a time the largest legal fee on record for L.A.; June 22, 1899, died in L.A., having lost reputation and health due to absinthe; children: Eugene Warren, Julio Juan, Luisa.

tovangar2 Feb 19, 2017 1:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninja55 (Post 5206778)
The other gent is unknown, but the back of the pick says "commish man", whatever that means.

BiffRayRock,

Doesn't "commish" usually refer to the police commissioner? I assume the guy is an assistant.

BifRayRock Feb 19, 2017 1:54 AM




:previous:T2, your guess is as good as anything I can conjure. I suppose the tag "Commissioner" might apply to all sorts of office holders who receive a commission, e.g., Baseball Commissioner, Insurance Commissioner and the like. It could also be a nickname or honorary title. Perhaps the title referred to someone else in the photo. Could Mr. Navarro have played a film role as a commissioner? :shrug:


Source identifies subject as " 'Happy' Moore" at an unidentified location. :shrug:


1930 - per source.
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...q.jpg~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...0coll2/id/3977


Vehicle ID?
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...c.jpg~original


A much younger "Happy" demonstrating his open road skills with four-legged passenger, "Scruffs."
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...k.jpg~original:P




BifRayRock Feb 19, 2017 2:58 AM





Know your LA COuNty Law Library! http://framework.latimes.com/2015/08...y-law-library/


1953 - LA County Law Library Construction
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1954 - The "New" LA County Law Library
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...h.jpg~original
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...0coll2/id/7950



1954
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1958 - The Almost-New Law Library - neighboring hill gone.
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...r.jpg~originalhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...oll44/id/90111



2015
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CityBoyDoug Feb 19, 2017 3:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7716891)
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:previous: Thanks CBD and T2. I understand most folks incinerated their trash and garbage pickup was a limited service, but with cans that small, the occupants must not have been big consumers. I also wondered about temporary water meters or access to water main cut-offs, since the street had yet to be paved. :shrug:

]

Our dear T2 is probably too young to remember the awful days of Los Angeles area ''garbage cans". Believe me, they were nasty.

I think the truck came down the street twice a week. Where we lived in San Gabriel the truck was just an open dump truck...primitive [shown below]. Always black guys were driving and doing the dumping of the stinky little cans.

You only put things in the can that didn't easily burn. That was usually very wet items and hard things like bones from last night's steak dinner.

Before school on Monday and Thursday I had to be sure to remember to put the kitchen refuse garbage can out by the curb to be in time for the pickup truck. I did this from age 6 to 9.

I believe the city switched from the little cans to large barrels in the mid 1950s that were large enough for grass clippings and leaves, etc. [By 1957 the incinerators were banned as were the little stinky cans.]

Here is the type of truck that collected from the little garbage cans on our street in the early 1950s.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psqakoa6io.jpg
file CD

Tourmaline Feb 19, 2017 5:06 AM

:previous:;)

1948
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New type garbage truck tested in Valley - Carlos Cortez working at sanitary equipment which will replace open trucks.
1948
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00114/00114736.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00114/00114736.jpg


1957
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00134/00134089.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00134/00134089.jpg



http://jpg1.lapl.org/00134/00134087.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00134/00134087.jpg


[QUOTE]"Ready for new Valley refuse service - This is motor pool of new white refuse collection trucks which go into action Monday when city inaugurates new pickup program in Valley area. Homes have received notice of collection dates. Containers and contents can't weigh more than 80 pounds." [QUOTE]

1957
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New municipal rubbish truck unloads first day's collection at fill pit at 9701 San Fernando Rd. Fifty trucks begin rubbish collection in Valley. By week's end 200,000 homes in six Valley districts will be serviced. Seven trucks had compressor trouble first day, but collection went on as scheduled.
1957
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00134/00134086.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00134/00134086.jpg


1961 - Hooray! It's trash day!
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics21/00060238.jpghttp://jpg3.lapl.org/pics21/00060238.jpg

Flyingwedge Feb 19, 2017 5:34 AM

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Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 7716912)
In re: Biscailuz (from my unpublished [so far!] notes [my notes on L.A. only go up to mid-1870s], a work in progress):

Biscailuz, Jean ca. 1810, born in France; 1860, present in L.A. as a plasterer; wife, Juana Boulantoya; son, Martin Vincent.

Biscailuz, Martin Vincent attorney; April 29, 1861, born in L.A.; father, Jean Biscailuz; May 20, 1882, married Maria Rosario Warren (desc. of Claudio Lopez), who at length divorced him; involved in litigating the Oxarart will, bagging a fee of $40,000, for a time the largest legal fee on record for L.A.; June 22, 1899, died in L.A., having lost reputation and health due to absinthe; children: Eugene Warren, Julio Juan, Luisa.

On August 25, 1897, Martin Biscailuz was arrested for stealing law books from the office of Major Horace Bell
(Bell was absent from his office at the time because he'd been arrested for battery). This description of Biscailuz
is from an article the next day about the arrests of Bell and Biscailuz:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...r.jpg~original

August 26, 1897, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LAPL

CityBoyDoug Feb 19, 2017 5:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 7717070)

Eventually that mess of lose trash was outlawed. Not in proper can...no pick up. [Trash truck attendants are not your maids.]

@Tourmaline.....good collection of historic trash trucks.!!!

odinthor Feb 19, 2017 6:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7717080)
On August 25, 1897, Martin Biscailuz was arrested for stealing law books from the office of Major Horace Bell
(Bell was absent from his office at the time because he'd been arrested for battery). This description of Biscailuz
is from an article the next day about the arrests of Bell and Biscailuz:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...r.jpg~original

August 26, 1897, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LAPL

Most interesting, Flyingwedge--thanks!

My note "desc. of Claudio Lopez" about Maria Rosario Warren, Martin Vincent Biscailuz's quondam wife, prompted me to refresh my memory and check my notes further about her, with an interesting result. Maria's father was William Crossman Warren, the Marshal who was killed near the intersection of Spring and Temple in 1870 by deputy Joseph Dye (Maria Rosario's mother was Maria Juana Lopez, great granddaughter of early Angeleno Claudio Lopez). Even more noirish, it was the deceased Warren's ghostly image which "mysteriously" showed up in later photographs of another deputy, Francis Baker, photos taken by Wolfenstein. I looked into this latter a little bit a few years ago, and found that Wolfie eventually returned to his native Sweden, where he became known in Stockholm for . . . trick photography . . .

And Maria Juana Lopez was the daughter of Chico Lopez, known as one of those who saw the Elizabeth Lake monster!

Bristolian Feb 19, 2017 7:12 AM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7716744)
It was only a few days ago that we had a Julius Shulman post from Manhattan Beach, and now we have another. This is "Job 3359: Flewelling and Moody, Mira Costa Auditorium (Manhattan Beach, Calif.), 1962". I've picked a selection of the black & white images, and left out all three of the color ones.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

The front of the auditorium looks like this.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original


This is my high school and also, our junior high graduation was held in this auditorium. I never thought I would see anything about it on this page. Who knew? I feel compelled to add some useless information so here goes: The arched building under construction at the left of the first photo housed the indoor pool which has since been replaced by an outdoor version on the other side of campus.

HossC Feb 19, 2017 9:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7716947)

Source identifies subject as " 'Happy' Moore" at an unidentified location. :shrug:

1930 - per source.
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...q.jpg~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...0coll2/id/3977

Vehicle ID?
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...c.jpg~original

The car is an American Austin Bantam, made under license from the British Austin Motor Company between 1930 and 1934.


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