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ethereal_reality Feb 13, 2017 5:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7709495)
A search of interior pix of Ocean House didn't turn up one of this particular staircase, but there is one of a hallway also w/ scenic wallpaper:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/EG...Q=w508-h387-no
pinterest

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1J...w=w504-h597-no
pinterest

:previous: Thanks for your help t2. The style of the hand-painted wallpaper appear to be quite similar.


While looking for further evidence, I happened upon the following two photographs from 1957. (I don't believe we've seen on NLA)

"Mrs. Fred Breer and Mrs. Robert Keller, both of Brentwood, were among hundreds of visitors to the former famous home of Actress Marion Davies on Palisades Beach road
in Santa Monica as sale of the furnishings and buildings started today."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/Eu5ssg.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/59922/rec/3



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/zwUCib.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/59922/rec/3

Is that Marion lying on the stage?---->
;)

CityBoyDoug Feb 13, 2017 5:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7710202)
Thanks for your help t2. The walls and the hand-painted wallpaper appear to match.


While looking for further evidence, I happened upon the following two photographs from 1957 that I don't believe we've seen on NLA

"Mrs. Fred Breer and Mrs. Robert Keller, both of Brentwood, were among hundreds of visitors to the former famous home of Actress Marion Davies on Palisades Beach road in Santa Monica as sale of the furnishings and buildings started today."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/Eu5ssg.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/59922/rec/3



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/zwUCib.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/59922/rec/3

Is that Marion lying on the stage?---->

That ''moderne" furniture was not used when Miss Davies lived in the home. The moderne furniture was later added when the Beach House was sold in 1946 and used as a ''resort hotel" which turned out to be a total flop.

ethereal_reality Feb 13, 2017 6:12 AM

Here's a rare photograph of a carousel at the beach house.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/924/Nj33pz.jpg

This was no doubt set up for one of Marion's theme parties.




with caption
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/YQFcIX.jpg
http://theloudestvoice.tumblr.com/page/397

I noticed you called it 'Ocean House' as well t2. I've always called it the beach house. Was Ocean House the name of it when it was a hotel?

CityBoyDoug Feb 13, 2017 6:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7710207)
Here's a rare photograph of a carousel at the beach house.

This was no doubt set up for one of Marion's theme parties.
with caption
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/YQFcIX.jpg
http://theloudestvoice.tumblr.com/page/397

I noticed you called it 'Ocean House' as well t2.

With flags and bunting could it have been a 4th of July Party?

Greg H Feb 13, 2017 7:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7709994)
I meant to ask this earlier. Can anyone make out the name of this noirish looking greasy spoon? (it looks like it begins with a B)



It's behind the bush in the photo below-
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/6CXMg9.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/manitobamuseum/2982773090
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I couldn't come up with the name of the greasy spoon but that place with the awning and Boss Overalls sign was once the studio of famed San Francisco psychedelic poster artist Rick Griffin (as well as the studio of bass player Randy Nuart from the Challengers surf band).
http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/...ail%20view.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

CityBoyDoug Feb 13, 2017 8:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg H (Post 7710238)
I couldn't come up with the name of the greasy spoon but that place with the awning and Boss Overalls sign was once the studio of famed San Francisco psychedelic poster artist Rick Griffin (as well as the studio of bass player Randy Nuart from the Challengers surf band).
http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/...ail%20view.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater



More about Rick:

http://www.famousrockposters.com/psy...s/rick-griffin

tovangar2 Feb 13, 2017 8:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7710202)
The style of the hand-painted wallpaper appear to match.


I dunno about match, although they are of a similar complexity and scale.

The wallpaper in the hallway pictures a tally-ho, but, in the other photo, there are some classical figures to the left of the staircase and what appears to be a Phoenician-style boat on the right. Plus, a bust, of what looks to be a Revolutionary War general, is in a niche, which rhymes w/ pastiche (no offence Marion).


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7710207)

I noticed you called it 'Ocean House' as well t2. I've always called it the beach house. Was Ocean House the name of it when it was a hotel?



I thought "Ocean House" was the official name. Maybe I've been reading captions wrong all this time. Everybody did seem to just call it "Marion Davies' beach house".

Here's a history: https://www.kcet.org/history-society...ty-beach-house

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Godzilla Feb 13, 2017 2:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7710248)


Your linked article and other sources attribute the ES poster to fellow artist, von Hammersveld. ;)

Quote:

Also, widely published is Rick’s obsession with surfing and “Duke” of surf art. In 1962 he was good friends with John van Hamersveld (who designed “The Endless Summer” movie poster).
http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocre...g4fm0q71lg.jpghttp://images.onset.freedom.com/ocre...g4fm0q71lg.jpg


http://encyclopediaofsurfing.com/ent...amersveld-john


JVS 1967
http://11l24h2pd2n91vf06x3fpeo8.wpen...rsveld_527.jpghttp://11l24h2pd2n91vf06x3fpeo8.wpen...rsveld_527.jpg



Is Van Morrison missing a hat from his collection - or does he share?:uhh:
http://images3.mtv.com/uri/mgid:uma:...k&quality=0.85
http://images3.mtv.com/uri/mgid:uma:...k&quality=0.85

Loffen Feb 13, 2017 4:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7709994)
I'm a bit embarrassed to admit, but I've never seen 'Falling Down'. (not a big Michael Douglas fan)


Falling Down [1993]
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/5rI5IJ.jpg
http://www.themoviedistrict.com/falling-down/

But it certainly looks intriguing....now I can't wait to see it.



:previous:So glad you've been following NLA.

& thanks for the video link. (we've covered it before, but it was great to watch it again)



Falling Down is one of Douglas' best. I highly recommend it. Not a masterpiece, but pretty enjoyable.

And I kinda figured the old video had been covered, but wasn't sure. It's incredible though.

Are there any good quality aerials of this hill. I can't find any regardless of what year or anything. Closest photos I find, the focus is on the Harbor Freeway/Downtown.

HossC Feb 13, 2017 5:29 PM

:previous:

I'm sure we've seen aerials of the hill before, but for now, here are most of the posts about the Temple Street Urban Renewal Project video from last June. Sorry if I missed any important ones. The first is Beaudry's post which originally highlighted the video.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=35419 - Beaudry

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=35497 - GW

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=35504 - HossC

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=35506 - e_r

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=35689 - e_r

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=35697 - HossC

CityBoyDoug Feb 13, 2017 5:53 PM

Thanks for the correction. I removed the reference. :tup::tup:

oldstuff Feb 13, 2017 6:28 PM

I finally tracked down this picture of Diamond Castle in a book called 'Alahmbra' by Michael Anthony Orozco and the Alhambra Historical Society. It gives the address as 414 W Grand Avenue. I find it a bit coincidental that both castles would have the same street number, but the 400 blocks of the cross streets of W Grand Avenue are directly north of it, and the Popular Science article says that one castle can be seen from the other.

[
Just as I was about to post, I found this clipping on Pinterest with some interesting information about Tiree Castle. There's no credit, but the original yellow highlighting suggests that it came from an online source. The page also has other pictures of both castles, one of which lists the address of Tiree Castle as 414 Grand Avenue. I wonder which castle was actually at that address.

The 1920 census has Alexander McLean and his mother Mary living at 414 W. Grand Avenue in Alhambra. His occupation is listed as a "house carpenter". Mr. McLean was born in Canada in 1856 and his mother born in Scotland in 1826. They both came to the US in 1868.

There is another photo of Tyree castle online when Alexander McLean and Alhambra are Googled together which shows more of the side of the house with what appears to be a deck off the upper floors in the back with a lattice railing around it and what is possibly a radio antenna sticking up from the house on the side. There is a man and some children in front.

ethereal_reality Feb 13, 2017 6:54 PM

I never noticed the diagonal arrow before. (circled below)

Is it pointing to parking in the rear....between the Rochester and the businesses fronting Temple Street?
(you can see the curb is open at that spot)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/Ki0Fb5.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

I didn't think there would be ample space back there for off-street parking.
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ethereal_reality Feb 13, 2017 7:08 PM

pics for oldstuff.


1916

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/wMsv69.jpg
http://351cleveland.wikifoundry.com
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 7710593)
:previous:
There is another photo of Tyree castle online when Alexander McLean and Alhambra are Googled together which shows more of the side of the house with what appears to be a deck off the upper floors in the back with a lattice railing around it and what is possibly a radio antenna sticking up from the house on the side. There is a man and some children in front.




The radio tower is visible in this photograph as well.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/k2ETx5.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com

The 'castle' is smaller than I thought. (judging by the size of the man)

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HossC Feb 13, 2017 7:23 PM

:previous:

The size is fairly well described in the caption of the last picture I posted yesterday. The inside was tiny.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7709665)


ethereal_reality Feb 13, 2017 7:36 PM

:previous: I somehow missed your post yesterday Hoss. -sorry about that. (I was fixating on the wallpaper at Marion's beach house ;))


originally posted by HossC
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/HiMK5A.jpg

A small portion of the radio tower can be seen in this pic as well.

Now let's see if anyone can come up with Mr. McLean's ham radio QSL card.

odinthor Feb 13, 2017 7:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7710660)
:previous: I somehow missed your post yesterday Hoss. -sorry about that. (I was fixating on the wallpaper at Marion's beach house ;))


originally posted by HossC
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/HiMK5A.jpg

A small portion of the radio tower can be seen in this pic as well.

Now let's see if anyone can come up with Mr. McLean's ham radio QSL card.

I'm reminded of Castle Croydon, at 7th and Orizaba in Long Beach:

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2bj2fjiy.jpg

"Pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 2.63 and with the recommendation of the Planning Commission, City Council designates the following building as a historical landmark in the City: Castle Croydon, 3000 East Seventh Street (Assessor's Parcel No. 7258030001).

"A. Specific Criteria. The structure is a mixed commercial and apartment structure at 3000 East Seventh Street. It is attached to a Craftsman bungalow, which has been modified to blend into the two-story commercial/apartment structure constructed subsequently. This latter structure has unique and novel architectural features depicting picturesque "castle" theme. There are several rounded turrets, crenelations, decorative roundels, a projecting chimney resting on corbels, scalloped archways, rounded archways, pierced decorative openwork and a Moorish horseshoe arch. Medieval Revival and Spanish Colonial Revival motifs are mixed. The exterior is stucco. Windows are metal casement with a separate subdivided transom. The corner entry to the ground floor commercial space is recessed at the corner, accessed through double doors, under a scalloped arch. A small-paned transom window is placed above the door. The ground floor storefronts have wood frames and transoms, and are original. A stucco wall incised to simulate stone connects the commercial structure to the Craftsman bungalow along Orizaba Street, and the bungalow has been stuccoed to blend. A concave stovepipe shape over the entry door to the Craftsman cottage echoes the fantasy theme.

"The Castle exemplifies typical patterns of land use and development for Long Beach during the 1920s. The two-story mixed-use structure was built in 1929 on Seventh Street as an addition to an older bungalow (1912) behind it on Orizaba Street. These two phases illustrate the transition from residential to commercial along Long Beach's major corridors. With ground floor retail shops and apartments above, the 1929 building was typical of mixed-use development of that era. The charming thematic architectural design was intended as a marketing tool of its period, attracting the eye of the motorist driving on Seventh Street. The use of medieval revival thematic design is unusual for a commercial structure.

"Period revivals were very popular in the 1920s as were exotic revivals and thematic buildings. Medieval Revival, Moorish Revival, Egyptian Revival, even 'Hansel and Gretel' houses, flourished. Medieval Revival carried out with many embellishments characterizes this building. A few of the details derive from Spanish Colonial Revival designs, such as the use of red tile on the service tower, the wrought iron gate and the pierced grillework. The older bungalow at the rear contains typical Craftsman bungalow features, with unique convex hood over the doorway that ties in with the fantasy theme of the larger building. A stucco wall scored to simulate irregular cut stones links the Castle and the bungalow, consistent with the thematic architecture.

"Located on the corner of Seventh Street and Orizaba Street, this architectural fantasy is a unique and visually prominent feature of an otherwise bland, commercial corridor. The Medieval Revival motifs and architectural richness of this building make it stand out as a community and City landmark." (from Long Beach Historic Landmarks Information 2 http://www.beachcalifornia.com/lbhis5.html .

HossC Feb 13, 2017 8:10 PM

:previous:

Interesting mix of flags on Castle Croydon. The red, green and white one is the current Welsh flag, while the red and yellow one is the Royal Banner of Scotland, historically used by Scottish kings. Both are flying on a castle which could be named after Croydon, a large town in south London, England.

odinthor Feb 13, 2017 8:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7710696)
:previous:

Interesting mix of flags on Castle Croydon. The red, green and white one is the current Welsh flag, while the red and yellow one is the Royal Banner of Scotland, historically used by Scottish kings. Both are flying on a castle which could be named after Croydon, a large town in south London, England.

When I was exploring different angles on the place on GSV, one taken at a different time showed two French flags flying.

I was once (mid-1970s) an editor on a periodical which had the then-resident of Castle Croydon as a contributor. He liked being edited even less than I do, which is quite an achievement.

HossC Feb 13, 2017 9:02 PM

We discussed William H Harrison and his impact on the architecture of Whittier a couple of months ago. This Julius Shulman photoset shows another of the schools he designed. It's "Job 3276: William H. Harrison, Pioneer High School (Whittier, Calif.), 1961". The entrance looks like a UFO landing!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

I wonder who this office belonged to.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Young ladies learning to cook.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

The school band?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

I'm guessing that only young men would've used these lathes and drills in 1961.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

Outdoor gym class?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original

I've been leaving out the color shots recently, but I though that these added something.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

Does anyone recognize the skeleton on the left? It looks about the size of a dog.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

You'll still find the Pioneer High School at 10800 Benavon St, Whittier. Sadly, it's lost the lettering on the roof, and the fencing spoils the UFO illusion!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original
GSV


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