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GaylordWilshire Jan 29, 2013 10:01 PM

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/1...omasdrugad.jpgMaxwell's Los Angeles City Directory
I just like the typeface in this 1897 ad...

ethereal_reality Jan 29, 2013 10:10 PM

:previous: Looks like the graphic designer was paid with free drugs. ;)

tovangar2 Jan 29, 2013 10:14 PM

PCH Pedestrian Bridge at Castellammare
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5992375)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8501/8...2269bc7a_o.png
Birdseye view of the Santa Monica shoreline north from Castellammare Drive, C.C. Pierce, ca.1932

Roland West's house is under construction and appears to be nearing completion. In three years, Thelma Todd is going to be found dead in that garage and no one is going to be able to come up with a satisfying explanation of how that happened. Thelma Todd's Sidewalk Café is down below or will be, just out of sight, hidden by the slope of the hill, where the pedestrian bridge meets the palisade. In the distance, Castle Rock and Villa Leon guard the southern approach to the Malibu.

USC digital archive/Title Insurance and Trust, and C.C. Pierce Photography Collection, 1860-1960

Wow, that pretty little pedestrian bridge was a loss, wasn't it? I love the four lamps.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-c...809%2520PM.jpg
gsv

sopas ej Jan 29, 2013 10:14 PM

Holy urinal cakes, looking back on some of the posts I've made, some of the pictures have disappeared! I must see about repairing those...

tovangar2 Jan 29, 2013 10:17 PM

time-traveling typeface
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5992521)
:previous: Looks like the graphic designer was paid with free drugs. ;)

I agree, it is very 60s.

ethereal_reality Jan 29, 2013 10:18 PM

Made in Van Nuys.


http://imageshack.us/a/img842/1/davi...nnuysjusta.jpg
unknown

4 people in the front and 3 in the back?






below: This is from an earlier post (2011).

http://imageshack.us/a/img341/219/aabdavislife.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3715




http://imageshack.us/a/img11/4733/aabdaviscolorized.jpg
http://www.suarezweb.com/davis/davismen.htm


GaylordWilshire offered further information and links in his post titled "Where's the sparking pole?".
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3718


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Los Angeles Past Jan 29, 2013 10:34 PM

For what it's worth, I have the first 257 pages of the thread completely archived; every word, and every image file. That doesn't do anybody but me any good, unfortunately. And I'm SOL for anything after that. I'm afraid I fell too far behind to keep up, and now it's way too late to go back that far and start again. I suppose half is better than none, though.

I might add, private webhosting accounts are always an option. Mine costs me $5 a month for 2GB storage. As long as I keep paying the bill, the images will remain.

-Scott

Los Angeles Past Jan 29, 2013 10:42 PM

What about starting a new thread?

Even a die-hard L.A. history nut like me, seeing this thread for the first time with 600+ pages - it would prove too daunting for me.

Just a thought. I do feel sympathy with anyone just discovering this thread now, though. It's so-o-o long, and has so many gaps. It probably disappoints readers now nearly as much as it enlightens.

tovangar2 Jan 29, 2013 10:45 PM

Kress Miracle Mile
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5081213)

Returning to the Miacle Mile for a moment, the Kress pylon looks much more substantial in the photo above than the odd-looking blade we're left with now. It must have had some sort of housing around it. It looks triangular.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-E...931%2520PM.jpg
gsv

ethereal_reality Jan 29, 2013 11:08 PM

This is an intriguing photograph. I had never heard of Cherry Street.



http://imageshack.us/a/img248/8200/a...s2info1954.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img9/5497/aab...outhernend.jpg
http://www.lapl.org/

We're looking north on Cherry Street and the cars are turning onto Washington Blvd. at a T Intersection.




1947 map
http://imageshack.us/a/img855/1930/aabtraff1954.jpg

Looking at this, I am amazed the freeway missed Chester Place (and St. James Park as well).



2011 map
http://imageshack.us/a/img338/8700/aabcherrypost1.jpg



below: The same view today. Looking north on Cherry Street from Washington Blvd.

http://imageshack.us/a/img267/822/aa...etatwashin.jpg
gsv




If you look closely, these are the same two buildings seen in the 1954 photograph.

http://imageshack.us/a/img13/5497/aa...outhernend.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img248/475/aa...eta2bldgwe.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img703/7302/a...streetatw1.jpg


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Lwize Jan 29, 2013 11:15 PM

No one?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 5990815)
Info request:

From many years ago, I remember an old, spooky church in the area east or south-east of the convention center. I believe it was the Trinity Church, with old stone construction, likely built in the 19th century. As far as I know, it was torn down in the 1990's. I'm not sure.

Does this ring a bell? Any pictures? Stories? :shrug:


Los Angeles Past Jan 29, 2013 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5992432)
(3940dxer saved pages up until 7 months or so ago).


3940dxer and I were supposed to combine our two resources into one shared archive (I had all the early stuff, he had everything up to that date), but the swap never occurred. I'm still more than willing to do that. If 3940dxer happens to be reading this, please send me a PM!

-Scott

GaylordWilshire Jan 30, 2013 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5992628)
1947 map
http://imageshack.us/a/img855/1930/aabtraff1954.jpg

Looking at this, I am amazed the freeway missed Chester Place (and St. James Park as well).

2011 map
http://imageshack.us/a/img338/8700/aabcherrypost1.jpg
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It seems apocryphal to me, but in researching the area, I came across the theory that such was the clout of the former telephone operator who rose to become a countess--Estelle Doheny--that the path of the Harbor Freeway was made to curve on its way south to avoid Chester Place....


As for Cherry Street... couldn't help but notice its proximity to Wright Street, which we've visited before:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=10696

tovangar2 Jan 30, 2013 12:07 AM

Cherry and Washington
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5992628)
This is an intriguing photograph. I had never heard of Cherry Street.



http://imageshack.us/a/img248/8200/a...s2info1954.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img9/5497/aab...outhernend.jpg
http://www.lapl.org/

We're looking north on Cherry Street and the cars are turning onto Washington Blvd. at a T Intersection.

below: The same view today. Looking north on Cherry Street from Washington Blvd.

http://imageshack.us/a/img267/822/aa...etatwashin.jpg
gsv


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Astounding ethereal! I am so not worthy.

Great to see a Studebaker. Remember the Lorimar show Max Headroom? All the cars were Studebakers

ethereal_reality Jan 30, 2013 12:42 AM

:previous: Thank you T2.
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One thing that stood out in the 1954 photograph was this large church on Cherry Street.

http://imageshack.us/a/img209/5497/a...outhernend.jpg
http://www.lapl.org/






After searching here and there, I finally located a photograph of this truly magnificent church.

http://imageshack.us/a/img27/3421/aa...eranchurch.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img541/3421/a...eranchurch.jpg
http://www.lapl.org/






below: July 1959.

http://imageshack.us/a/img28/8577/aa...heran1959b.jpg
http://www.lapl.org/





http://imageshack.us/a/img689/7168/a...theran1959.jpg
http://www.lapl.org/

:(
If that doesn't hurt, I don't know what does.

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ethereal_reality Jan 30, 2013 12:54 AM

http://imageshack.us/a/img37/2478/aablwize1s.jpg

Lwize, your church would be several blocks northeast of the Trinity Lutheran Church on Cherry Street.
Let's try to find some aerials of the area. It should be fun.
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ethereal_reality Jan 30, 2013 1:50 AM

Long Beach 1949.

http://imageshack.us/a/img208/5303/b...ongbeacheb.jpg
ebay

I'm speechless.
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kznyc2k Jan 30, 2013 6:47 AM

Lwize, it wouldn't be St. Joseph's Catholic Church at 12th and Los Angeles, would it?

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/3...30130at133.png
Circa 1901-15, USC Digital Collection

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/4...30130at142.jpg
Circa 1929, USC Digital Collection

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00076/00076329.jpg
1940s, with the Bendix Building in the background, LAPL

http://jpg2.lapl.org/spnb1/00017167.jpg
1957, LAPL

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00076/00076331.jpg
1971, LAPL

It burned down in 1983 and was replaced by the Diocese a few years later with a somewhat cartoonish--and wholly suburban--structure:

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7...30130at149.jpg

Some good reading here: http://blogdowntown.com/2011/10/6440...own-firedamage

kznyc2k Jan 30, 2013 6:57 AM

Or was it this more Romanesque number, the Christ Church at 12th and Flower?

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/4...30130at155.jpg
Circa 1900, USC Digital Collection

Satellite shots show this one being gone by 1994.

MichaelRyerson Jan 30, 2013 2:21 PM

Start the morning with a couple of cups of noir...
 
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8206/8...43c3a376_o.jpg
End of the Line, 1957


Feb. 23, 1957: Jewelry store robbery suspect Benny Hirschfield is wrestled to the ground by Patrolman Fred Kite, right, and Officer D.J. Lightfoot. Delmar Watson, Mirror-News staff photographer, shot this image after getting caught in the middle of the jewelry story robbery and helping chase Hirschfield.

The Mirror-News reported the entire incident in the Feb. 25, 1957 edition:

Mirror-News Photographer Delmar Watson and Reporter Jack Springer found it’s possible to get TOO close to the news – they covered a robbery Saturday while it was still in progress and Watson was a shot-at victim.

Springer and Watson were five blocks from the scene of a jewelry store robbery at 6317 Hollywood Blvd. when the police radio reported a holdup. They dashed to the scene just as one robber ran out.

Springer pursued the fleeing bandit while Watson ran into the Kruse Jewelry Store to discover that Bandit No.2 was still very much in business.

Benny Hirschfield, 40, the ex-convict robber, had just herded Jack Sanford, store manager, and Patrolman J.E. Eifert into an upstairs storeroom when Watson barged in.

Hirschfield menaced Watson with his gun, but the distraction provided Officer Eifert with an opportunity to fire at Hirschfield who fled from the store. Eifert’s bullet, which missed Hirschfield, passed over Watson’s shoulder.

Hirschfield was arrested minutes later in a nearby parking lot by Officer Fred Kite and Watson was on hand to get a vivid, grade-A action shot of Kite just after he stretched the bandit on the asphalt with a tackle.

Bandit No. 1 outsprinted Springer and boarded a bus just pulling away from a stop. Springer furnished the only accurate description of the thug who escaped with $20,000 in jewelry in a shopping bag.


Los Angeles Times archive


A 'getaway bus'??



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8065/8...1e7fdf0c_o.jpg
All that's good with America, 1952


Aug. 21, 1952: Halftime entertainment at the eighth annual Times charity game was provided by Spike Jones, left, Marilyn Monroe and Ken Murray (actor Paul Picerni far left peeking over Jones' shoulder). The defending champion Rams beat the Washington Redskins, 45-23.

Los Angeles Times staff writer Jack Geyer reported in the next morning’s paper:

There were a lot of fancy runs at the Coliseum last night where the Los Angeles Rams and Washington Redskins clashed in the eighth annual Times charity game, but none was more thrilling than the 50-yard dash luscious Marilyn Monroe made from the sidelines to the center of the field.

Marilyn…bounced across the field with a run that charged more batteries than a generator.

Ken Murray, the incomparable comic who emceed the terrific halftime pageant, explained it best. Said Ken:

“Marilyn had better be careful or the referee will penalize her five yards — for backfield in motion.” (Ain't America great?)

The Los Angeles Times-Rams Charity games continued until 1993.

This image was published on a photo page with five shots from the game. Photo credit for all six images was given to Phil Bath, Art Rogers, Larry Sharkey and Bob Jacobsen.


Scott Harrison
Los Angeles Times archive



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8490/8...e3afd3d5_o.jpg
Policewoman lures rape suspect, 1952


30 July 1952. Florence Coberly -- 26 years (policewoman); I have to admit, there is something very alluring about a woman with seriously plucked eyebrows wearing a tight skirt and a firearm.


USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961




http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8204/8...de2a3fa1_o.jpg
Policewoman lures rape suspect, 1952 (2)


30 July 1952. Detective F.A. Marz shot and killed suspect Joe L. Parra; Detective S.W. Griffin;


USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8477/8...a365658f_o.jpg
Los Angeles Police Department narcotics arrest, 1958


8 January 1958. Barbara Burns, 19, booked by Los Angeles Police as narcotic addict early this a.m. Narco detective in shot with her is E.L. Allen". This would be Barbara Burns, daughter of comedian/musician Bob Burns, also known as the Arkansas Traveler. Her father had been dead two years when this picture was taken.


USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8480/8...d4611573_o.jpg
Barbara Burns sentence, 1958


9 June 1958. L to R: Marshall Norman Coppock; Barbara Burns.


USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8205/8...cb9a486a_o.jpg
Mocambo Party for Mr. and Mrs. C. Ray Gilliland, 1954 (3)


2 June 1954. Paul Brinkman & Jeanne Crain dancing.


USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7138/8...ba7f0d10_o.jpg
Runaway boy (Inglewood), 1952

17 March 1952. Davies Herron -- 12 years. I hope things settled down for Davies. I hope he had a good life.

USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8200/8...4255c6c6_o.jpg
Bruce Cabot Divorce, 1951


27 November 1951. Attorney Jerry Geisler; Mrs. Bruce Cabot. And here's two more folks to whom an impending divorce moves them to laughter. I understand the lawyer's high spirits (yet another picture in the paper, big fees) but the lady seems unduly amused. Maybe she just realized the big fees for Mr. Geisler will be covered by the soon to be ex-husband. Then again maybe it's just me.



USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961




http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8202/8...1ff1491f_o.jpg
Monterey Park 'spying suitor' court trial, 1954


21 January 1954. Champion Rogers (suspect); Harry Leppek (Attorney); Caption slip reads: "Photographer: Paegel. Date: 1954-01-21. Reporter: Massard. Assignment: Monterey park's 'Spying Suitor' court trial. 3/4: Champion Rogers and his attorney Harry Leppek." I think nowadays this guy would simply be called a stalker.


USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8346/8...071062a5_o.jpg
Monterey Park 'spying suitor' court trial, 1954 (2)


21 January 1954. Jean Yates (victim).
Jean Yates, on whom Rogers was spying, hides face from photo lens."


USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961




http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8479/8...52b35ab7_o.jpg
Shooting (Wilshire Police Station), 1958


6 January 1958. 'Tim' Moore -- 70 -- 'Kingfish' of TV 'Amos and Andy,' in Wilshire Station for shooting at wife".

He took a shot at Sapphire? At Sapphire?? That man must be crazy.


USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8209/8...744e7a4a_o.jpg
Wrestling, 1951


19 September 1951. Baron Leone; Red Berry. Whoa Nellie! I don't know exactly what they're doing here but it looks as though they're both losing! The paying customers seem to be enjoying it though. I just about hear Dick Lane's voice.


USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8350/8...7001688d_o.jpg
Marriage license, 1951


Marriage license, 4 September 1951. Cornell Wilde; Jean Wallace.


USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7113/8...dd4aa7ec_o.jpg
Catholic School Mothers Club -- plan dance, 1958


10 January 1958. L to R: Mrs. Joseph Dunnigan; Mrs. John T. Cahill; Mrs. Ambrose Schnieder".
Supplementary material reads: "Photo assignment for Friday January 10 at 3 p.m. Pls go to home of Mrs. Wright, 804 North Linden Drive, Beverly Hills, CR 17814, get shots of Catholic School Mothers Club women planning dance. Candid, three cols. Contacts Monday; Thanks, Carter Ludlow".


...And you read your Emily Dickinson,
And I my Robert Frost,
And we note our place with bookmarkers
That measure what we've lost...


USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8201/8...675483e2_o.jpg
Ku Klux Klan warning (Negro house bombed), 1952


01 April 1952. On sidewalk at 2633 South Ridgeley Drive; Reporter looking on.


USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8486/8...0d26e179_o.jpg
'Queen of the Barbelles', Abbye Eville, 1949

When Abbye Eville wanted to shed some pounds, her then-boyfriend Les Stockton encouraged her to lift weights at Santa Monica's Muscle Beach. The "Queen of the Barbelles" soon was the poster-girl of fitness, and as one wag put it, her nickname, "Pudgy," became "a libel." In the 1940s, she organized the first all-female weight-lifting contest and opened the first all women's gym in the United States. She and Les, by then her husband, later popularized working out on the Sixth Street Stairs in Santa Monica. Photo dated: December 10, 1949.

LAPL



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7125/8...b41ec83b_o.jpg
Narcotics suspect, 1954


14 April 1954. Suspect Frank Rasulo, left, being questioned by Detective Al Challoner.


USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8444/7...8d915cce_o.jpg
Murder in front of 663 Lamar Street, 1952


Murder in front of 663 Lamar Street, 30 May 1952. Murder scene; Body of Fernando Reyes -- 17 years (shot and killed in street brawl) 1726 1/2 Clover Street; "Choppie" Reyes (brother of dead boy); Louis Barrera -- 17 years (friend of Reyes); William Humm (Deputy); Don Joseph (Deputy); Detective T.F. McGovern. Boy walking around officer on far left is Louis Barrera, 17. Shows murder scene, where Fernando Reyes lies dead". Murder east of the river, in a tough part of town. Then again, maybe they're all tough parts of town.


USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8436/7...58e802fb_o.jpg
Murder, 1960


Murder, 12 December 1960. Lt. R.W. Lauritzen inspects the body of L.L. Hardwick, 43. Police Sgt. Reggie Floyd, first police officer on scene, looks on. In background is victim's car.

USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961

Earl Boebert Jan 30, 2013 3:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5992857)
Long Beach 1949.

http://imageshack.us/a/img208/5303/b...ongbeacheb.jpg
ebay

I'm speechless.
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Was this the inspiration for "Even Cowgirls Get The Blues?"

Cheers,

Earl

tovangar2 Jan 30, 2013 4:13 PM

Better than Wheaties....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5993290)
Start the morning with a couple of cups of noir

Thanks! Outstanding.

tovangar2 Jan 30, 2013 4:24 PM

Fonts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5992502)

I forwarded this to my font freak daughter (there's a whole community of designers out there who collect, discuss, trade, share and, of course, use unusual/historic/classic fonts as well as design new ones). She instantly shot it out to a bunch of her typeface geek friends, who also sent it on.

So thanks GW, you amazed and delighted a whole bunch of people yesterday :-)

Lwize Jan 30, 2013 6:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kznyc2k (Post 5993138)
Or was it this more Romanesque number, the Christ Church at 12th and Flower?

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/4...30130at155.jpg
Circa 1900, USC Digital Collection

Satellite shots show this one being gone by 1994.

The location seems close and the stone structure too, though I felt it was smaller, more spooky and had the name Trinity when last I noticed it sometime in the 1980's. Hmmm.
Could be. Maybe an extra 80 years of aging, and some trees around it.
I may have to accept this. Could there have been a name change?

GaylordWilshire Jan 30, 2013 7:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5993290)
http://imageshack.us/a/img534/2209/hardwickcircle.jpg[/url]
Murder, 1960

Murder, 12 December 1960. Lt. R.W. Lauritzen inspects the body of L.L. Hardwick, 43. Police Sgt. Reggie Floyd, first police officer on scene, looks on. In background is victim's car.


Union and West 20th is the corner at left middle in the shot above; the vacant lot where Hardwick's body was found is now under the 10. The recently cleared areas were for the freeway then being plowed through the neighborhood. The house circled above still stands:
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/611...edhousetod.jpgGoogleSV


A view from the 10 today, almost right above where Hardwick's body was found:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4...viewfrom10.jpg


The story:
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3...dwickcompl.jpg

tovangar2 Jan 30, 2013 7:43 PM

Mystery Church
 
Lwize, can you find it in the below?

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-q...109%2520AM.jpg
http://www.bigmapblog.com/2011/birds...f-los-angeles/ (click the link for zoomable version)

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6558/1916itworked.jpg
uscdl

Fab Fifties Fan Jan 30, 2013 7:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5993771)
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3...dwickcompl.jpg


The vacant lot described is now under the 10 freeway....

Poor old Leo must not have been a very successful bookmaker seeing that he was living in a flophouse hotel, had only a dime in his pocket and was driving the most basic model '47 Chevy in 1960. At least he was dressed nicely. ;)

~Jon Paul

Chuckaluck Jan 30, 2013 7:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 5865301)
Recent focus on the Wilshire/La Brea area caused me to look more closely at the south side of Wilshire near its intersection with Detroit (5300 Block). Most Noir'ers might recognize it as the block with the deco camera facade, aka "the Darkroom."

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pnp/habshaer/c...s/012089pr.jpghttp://www.loc.gov

But it was other things that caught my attention. Some photographs suggest there could have been a theater on the same block, although I have not located any evidence of one in the directories and other usual resources. Upper portion of the building currently occupied by the US Post Office has an interesting theater screen-like shape. Then there is the marquee above "Busby's," although this is likely a modern contrivance.

Secondarily, above the Post Office is a freestanding white column that seems out of place. Photos depict the column was an awkward design element that advertised the business Kress.

http://la.curbed.com/uploads/2008-05-detroit_usps.jpghttp://www.google.com

http://s3-media1.ak.yelpcdn.com/bpho...DG1NxWAg/l.jpg
http://pics3.city-data.com/businesse.../1/6051601.JPG
http://s3-media4.ak.yelpcdn.com/bpho...YhblbEUw/l.jpgwww.google.com

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"Kress" column - above the post office.

2012 Column is at center of photo.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-c...2525202012.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=5905
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=5905

Column at left
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics19/00009344.jpg http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9545

Kress!

1939 Wilshire looking toward southeast corner of Detroit. Kress, Eastern Bldg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...A6D3DDD98?v=hrUSC Digital

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...16-1-ISLA?v=hrhttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=570

1932 Wilshire looking toward the southeast corner of Detroit. Notice "Eastern Bldg." and gas station at far right of frame.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...G-2057A-I?v=hrUSC Digital

1932 Wilshire and Detroit looking east. "Eastern bldg." and (far right) "Flash" gas selling for 11¢ per gallon! ($3 to fill the tank!)
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-36029?v=hrUSC Digital

Filling in some gaps a la USC Digital. And there are a lot of 'em.

Circa 1940
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0 USC Digital

Chuckaluck Jan 30, 2013 7:57 PM

More from the Wilshire-La Brea area, circa '40. :previous:

Ford Dealership or enormous Ford advertisement? In '39 Lail Oldsmobile was at 747 S. La Brea. By 1940, Lail was at 419 S. La Brea.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0USC Digital

The Four Star Theater - plenty of parking, plenty of adjacent billboard space.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0



John Burroughs Jr High School on McCadden (are those handball courts?)
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0USC Digital

Burroughs School, circa '26 Built to last.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics13/00026195.jpgLapl


The money shot. (Of course it has been posted before.)
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...SLA&DMROTATE=0USC Digital

fhammon Jan 30, 2013 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5993290)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8490/8...e3afd3d5_o.jpg
Policewoman lures rape suspect, 1952

30 July 1952. Florence Coberly -- 26 years (policewoman); I have to admit, there is something very alluring about a woman with seriously plucked eyebrows wearing a tight skirt and a firearm.

USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961

It seems that our policewoman later got married and then got busted for shoplifting. (oops)

"Police woman shoplifting hearing, 22 July 1958. Mrs. Florence (Coberly) Stanton (suspect in shoplifting)"

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...697&DMROTATE=0

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/52444/rec/1

Quote:

Florence Coberly chosen as the outstanding woman on the Los Angeles police force in 1952, today faced dismissal from her post because of a shoplifting Dismissal was ordered Wednesday by a police board which reviewed a charge that Mrs. Stanton and her mother lifted...groceries...
http://newspaperarchive.com/redlands...cts/1958-07-24

fhammon Jan 30, 2013 10:40 PM

Here's another little tidbit of noir to brighten your afternoon re. Florence:

Quote:

Trim. That is not saying enough. She
was a 26 year old dark eyed brunette, five
feet four inches tall and 1 19 pounds. A
delightful morsel of femininity in any-
body's book. A policewoman ? Yes. The
kind of a policewoman a man would en-
joy being arrested by.

along San Pedro Street was easy to see
in spite of the meager illumination. The
light colored clothing she had deliber-
ately worn for the occasion stood out
clearly in the dim glow of the street



was bait in a special kind of trap. A
well trained tidbit placed in a snare
which had been set to apprehend the
vicious human animal who had been
preying on the women of southeast Los
Angeles. The unknown predator who
had given the San Pedro Street area the
(Continued nn page 36)


The trap was carefully planned and
well set up. Early in the day Florence
and Marie had been called into the of-
fice of Captain Ben Stein, commanding
officer of the Los Angeles Juvenile Bu-
reau and ordered to report to the 77th
Street station that night. The work was
not in the general line of duty for the
girls.

Her partner, Marie Little, a beauti-
ful, blue eyed blonde, shared her role.
While Florence walked in one direction,
awaiting the assault which they said
would be inevitable, Marie walked in
another.

There's more here:
http://www.archive.org/stream/police...3sanf_djvu.txt

MichaelRyerson Jan 30, 2013 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhammon (Post 5994068)
It seems that our policewoman later got married and then got busted for shoplifting. (oops)

http://newspaperarchive.com/redlands...cts/1958-07-24

Oh, how the mighty have fallen. But for groceries? Sounds kind of sad.

tovangar2 Jan 30, 2013 10:53 PM

Las Palmas Market / Reds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 5558366)
This small market at 1259 N. Las Palmas at Fountain in Hollywood has long interested me. This is a residential area, about a block west of De Longpre Park. The place is still there and still looks like an old country store. Wonder how long it's been around?

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics33/00066420.jpg

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics33/00066420.jpg

I love the Las Palmas Market, Las Palmas at Fountain. Built in 1912, it's a genuine mom 'n' pop establishment, rare in this 7-11 era. I've known it close to 40 years and it has not changed one bit. It's called the Red Market or just "Red's" by locals. You can buy anything here, but they seem to mostly sell Lotto tix, beer & cigarettes. Street parking only. Often used as a filming location (mostly getting robbed...though that's never happened in real life in living memory). I hope it lasts until I'm gone, b/c I'd really miss it.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-m...359%2520PM.jpg

fhammon Jan 30, 2013 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5993290)



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8204/8...de2a3fa1_o.jpg
Policewoman lures rape suspect, 1952 (2)


30 July 1952. Detective F.A. Marz shot and killed suspect Joe L. Parra; Detective S.W. Griffin;


USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961

There's a lot of good stuff here:

Quote:

Eyes closed, Florence Coberly lay still,
praying and waiting. Seconds later the
sounds of running feet and her attack-
er's curse told her help had arrived.

For a moment everything seemed to
happen at once. The husky young man
forgot the girl and fled. Policewoman
Coberly climbed to her feet just in time
to see Officer Frank A. Marz dash by
shouting "Police officer. Halt or I'll
shoot."

The fugitive ran past the Oldsmobile,
shouted something to the driver, then
ran around the corner. Marz followed,
close on his heels. Meanwhile the Olds-
mobile leaped forward and plunged at
top speed down the street. Mrs. Coberly
had time to draw her revolver and fire
one shot at the fleeing car. Then it was
gone.

In the distance she could hear the
sound of other shots. Two in quick suc-
cession, an interval, then two more. Mrs.
Coberly jammed the police whistle into
her mouth and blew it frantically, trying
to attract the attention of other officers.
Marie Little, her partner, came run-
ning toward her. Together they dashed
around the corner where they saw Marz
and Officer W. \1. Clago standing over
the man who had recently attacked Mrs.
Coberly. The molester was alive, but
breathing heavily and obviously badly
hurt.


One of the men from the ambulance
knelt over the prostrate form of the
molester. He felt his pulse, then looked
up at Lieutenant Phelps.

"You need the coroner," he an-
nounced. "It's too late for us. The man
is dead."
http://www.archive.org/stream/police...3sanf_djvu.txt

MichaelRyerson Jan 30, 2013 11:18 PM

It's chinatown, Jake.

tovangar2 Jan 30, 2013 11:51 PM

Richard Neutra and de-development
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5741445)
I believe the unique (rounded) building in the 1890s photograph originally housed a 'cyclorama'.
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Speaking of cycloamas:
Not much to do with LA, except it involves "our" Richard Neutra, but does provide food for thought about what to save and from which era. Painful choices being made back in PA:

http://www.architecturaldigest.com/b...ews_2013_01_30

Neutra's Cyclorama Building, Gettysburg (1962):
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-U...228%2520PM.jpg
national park service

fhammon Jan 31, 2013 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5994147)
Oh, how the mighty have fallen. But for groceries? Sounds kind of sad.

Yessir.

[IMG]http://i47.tinypic.com/5btjd3.jpg[/IMG]

http://archive.org/stream/policepeac.../n139/mode/2up

Albany NY Jan 31, 2013 12:41 AM

Be afraid....be very afraid.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5992857)
Long Beach 1949.

http://imageshack.us/a/img208/5303/b...ongbeacheb.jpg
ebay

I'm speechless.
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It's just amazing what doctors can transplant these days. JM J Bullock, on the left, seems to appreciate it.

tovangar2 Jan 31, 2013 1:13 AM

ankle-bracelets and bombings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5993290)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8490/8...e3afd3d5_o.jpg
Policewoman lures rape suspect, 1952
30 July 1952. Florence Coberly -- 26 years (policewoman)
USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961

Is that an ankle bracelet under her stocking? Ms. Coberly sure is rocking those pumps.


Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5993290)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8201/8...675483e2_o.jpg
Ku Klux Klan warning (Negro house bombed), 1952

01 April 1952. On sidewalk at 2633 South Ridgeley Drive; Reporter looking on.

USCdigital archive/Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection, 1950-1961


2633 S Ridgeley Drive, now ready for anything, including her close-up
(not too shabby for an 85-year-old)
I'm not going to begudge her that fence:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-d...904%2520PM.jpg

ethereal_reality Jan 31, 2013 1:38 AM

Excellent 'noirish' post this morning MichaelRyerson. Very haunting crime scenes.
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Oh, and good job locating the house in the crime scene photograph GaylordWilshire.
I keep envisioning poor Leo's bones underneath the freeway (ridiculous I know).

As for the small woman's compact found in his pocket......was Mr. Hardwick a murderer as well?

http://imageshack.us/a/img21/131/aabgwfind.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img835/4681/aabgwfind1a.jpg
gsv
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Albany NY Jan 31, 2013 1:39 AM

Even LA can be a small world
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fhammon (Post 5994068)
It seems that our policewoman later got married and then got busted for shoplifting. (oops)

"Police woman shoplifting hearing, 22 July 1958. Mrs. Florence (Coberly) Stanton (suspect in shoplifting)"

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...697&DMROTATE=0

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/52444/rec/1

http://newspaperarchive.com/redlands...cts/1958-07-24

By strange coincidence, the same front page of the July 24, 1958 edition of the Redlands Daily Facts that contains the article on Mrs. Florence Coberly Stanton also carries the story of the confession by Charles Earl Brubaker to the murder of Irene Morey and her 9 year old son Craig, which was covered here just a few pages ago.

ethereal_reality Jan 31, 2013 1:56 AM

I've labeled this the 'mystery medallions' building.

http://imageshack.us/a/img90/3299/my...ons7thsout.jpg
gsv


It's located on 7th Street between Rampart and Hoover.

http://imageshack.us/a/img198/1939/m...ons7thbtwr.jpg
gsv

http://imageshack.us/a/img705/1980/m...ons7closeu.jpg
gsv

....anyone have any clues about this unique building...does anyone recognize the gentlemen in the medallions?
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rick m Jan 31, 2013 2:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 5991889)
A companion photo. Unfortunately, no location or date.

The street is wide enough for street cars, but there is no evidence of tracks other than what may have been buried. Brick and concrete roadway on a steep incline, along with commercial parking garages might be strong clues. Guessing angle parking was optional or acceptable. It certainly was understandable.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_akOD74dlP4...tor+patrol.jpghttp://imageholicsanonymous.blogspot...at-donuts.html

Motorcyle formation is cruising down incline of 300 S.Olive block- on left side of first image - Portion of big parking bldng pedestrian entrance on the front left side - followed by bit of wooden Van Sickle Apts with The Ems beyond it midway up the block. 2nd image shows these again but also includes front entrance of the Bailey Bldng @ 344 S.Olive.(orig. The Wales Apts)

Fab Fifties Fan Jan 31, 2013 2:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5983672)
The multistory The Players Supper Club on Sunset Boulevard.

http://imageshack.us/a/img703/4448/a...sartsmemeb.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=926





The Players building today.

http://imageshack.us/a/img6/6423/aabplayerscloseup.jpg
gsv





below: looking a bit forlorn. The Chateau Marmont is visible on the right.

http://imageshack.us/a/img191/1681/a...oxburyroad.jpg
gsv




below: view from Roxbury Drive.

http://imageshack.us/a/img138/4527/a...ilevelsupp.jpg
gsv


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Remember this discussion from last week? Well get a load of this itteration of the Players Club!!!!

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/232/areyoukidding.png
Vintage Los Angeles - Facebook

Mere words escape me:(

~Jon Paul

kznyc2k Jan 31, 2013 2:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 5993698)
The location seems close and the stone structure too, though I felt it was smaller, more spooky and had the name Trinity when last I noticed it sometime in the 1980's. Hmmm.
Could be. Maybe an extra 80 years of aging, and some trees around it.
I may have to accept this. Could there have been a name change?

So I did a search for Trinity Church on LAPL and you know what? The building in question apparently changed names (and denominations) and was later on known as Trinity Church, which explains why I had trouble finding shots of this particular building last night.

So without further adieu, I give you Trinity Church at 1201 South Flower Street:

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics52/00075536.jpg
1971, LAPL

And here's the associated blurb: While the church is identified as a Methodist Church, the denomination changed to United Methodist in 1968, three years before this photograph was taken. Originally a church of the Methodist Episcopal Church, South denomination until 1938, this church was closed and merged with Wilshire United Methodist Church in 1980. This structure was demolished in the early 1980s.

I hope this is the answer you're looking for!

ladowntowner Jan 31, 2013 2:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fab Fifties Fan (Post 5994427)
Remember this discussion from last week? Well get a load of this itteration of the Players Club!!!!

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/232/areyoukidding.png
Vintage Los Angeles - Facebook

Mere words escape me:(

~Jon Paul

How unfortunate. "Pink Taco". That's one hell of an innuendo.

ethereal_reality Jan 31, 2013 3:14 AM

OOPS!


http://imageshack.us/a/img69/5362/aaboops.jpg
ebay




reverse
http://imageshack.us/a/img717/6540/aaboopsr1.jpg

The riverbed looks dry to me.

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ethereal_reality Jan 31, 2013 3:28 AM

I just came across this 1942 photograph on ebay. pan right--> for gas-o-meters...or whatever they're called.

http://imageshack.us/a/img690/9279/a...1942noinfo.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1942-Victory...item53f3ec3cf0

Hmm...offhand, the only person I recognize is Jack Benny. I'll have to look at this for a bit.

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alanlutz Jan 31, 2013 3:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5994505)
I just came across this 1942 photograph on ebay. pan right--> for gas-o-meters...or whatever they're called.

http://imageshack.us/a/img690/9279/a...1942noinfo.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1942-Victory...item53f3ec3cf0

Hmm...offhand, the only person I recognize is Jack Benny. I'll have to look at this for a bit.

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When I saw this picture, I thought that locomotive looked familiar. We have one of the last working ones of its kind, the 3751, parked here in Los Angeles at the Redondo Junction Round House.
But I found the 3785 (pictured above) mentioned in this article from the 3751 web site (http://www.sbrhs.org/history.html):

The original 4-8-4s had been handling the Grand Canyon Limited between Los Angeles and Wellington, Kansas (1,534 miles) since January 1940; upon completion of its rebuilding, No. 3751 entered this pool. Operating requirements sometimes saw No. 3751 on a La Junta-bound train out of Los Angeles, but after delivery of the 10 newest 4-8-4s, Nos. 3776-3785, in the summer of 1941, this became less frequent. Effective May 23, 1942, the original 4-8-4s started running through from Los Angeles to Kansas City via Amarillo, a distance of 1,789 miles, setting a new record for through steam locomotive runs. During World War II, these engines handled both the Scout and the Grand Canyon Limited. On-time performance was not the best with the long stops to work heavy mail and express, but seldom was one of these engines cut out at an intermediate terminal due to failure. During the typical month of August 1943, the 14 engines averaged 18,435 miles per locomotive with a repair cost of 23 cents per mile, at a time when 3,600-horsepower diesels handling lightweight trains cost 32.4 cents a mile for repairs.

ethereal_reality Jan 31, 2013 4:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanlutz (Post 5994542)
When I saw this picture, I thought that locomotive looked familiar. We have one of the last working ones of its kind, the 3751, parked here in Los Angeles at the Redondo Junction Round House.

Redondo Junction Round House? -any current photographs of the 3751 locomotive?
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