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HossC Apr 16, 2014 7:07 PM

Last week I posted a few pictures of the Subway Terminal parking garage. Here's another picture I found which shows it as the Savoy Auto Park as construction begins on the Subway Terminal Building (a similar picture can be seen here in one of Flyingwedge's recent posts). The Trenton and Fremont hotels are visible on Olive, but what's the large building to the left of the Trenton? I've seen maps with that plot named as the Southern California Telephone Company building, but is that what we see here?
NB. I've grayscaled all of the CSL images to improve clarity.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ayService1.jpg
California State Library

Here's another view of the building on Olive taken from a 1930 panorama. That looks like a Bell System logo on the side. The building currently at 433 S Olive belongs to AT&T.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...A433SOlive.jpg
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

Back to the Subway Terminal Building, and as the main structure goes up in the background, work begins on the Subway Terminal Service Building on 4th. The former Hotel Sheldon now seems to be called the Hotel Eddy. The parking garage is on the right.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ayService2.jpg
California State Library

The CSL has a whole series of construction pictures for both the Subway Terminal Building and the Subway Terminal Service Building. Here's the latter with its framework in place.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ayService3.jpg
California State Library

And here it is with the exterior nearly finished.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ayService4.jpg
California State Library

My original post also mentioned the fake painted windows on the back of the Subway Terminal Building. This is LAPL's caption for the picture below.

"The painted facade of the Subway Terminal Building also features a painting of the painters at work, or trompe l'oeil (trick of the eye). This is a close-up view of murals on a blank exterior wall, adding 62 painted windows as part of a $3-million restoration. Artist Jeff Greene, using silica-based mineral paint, painted the 560' x 28' mural in 1986."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ayService5.jpg
LAPL

The fake windows are still there, but the fake painters have gone.

ethereal_reality Apr 16, 2014 8:03 PM

:previous: good post HossC.
I had to take another look at the Subway Terminal Building. I knew nothing about the service building on 4th street.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102.../843/8fknx.jpg
google_earth


4th Street building entrance
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/836/vneo.jpg
GSV

ethereal_reality Apr 16, 2014 8:28 PM

Besgrade Flour

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/203/4qeq.jpg
ebay

GaylordWilshire Apr 16, 2014 8:35 PM

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-O...Matchbook1.jpgebay

ethereal_reality Apr 16, 2014 11:45 PM

:previous: beautiful graphic.


a noirish looking bar from the 1940s.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/842/0fby.jpg
ebay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/838/ljwh.jpg
ebay



the Brix Cocktails address today. :( Sadly replaced with a building of no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/834/xx8b.jpg
GSV
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ethereal_reality Apr 17, 2014 1:32 AM

A few days ago I came across this truck on ebay.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/845/8s87.jpg
ebay

Since we've discussed so many osteopathic hospitals, sanitariums and colleges here on NLA, I'm not 100% sure where the truck belongs.

It might be from the Osteopathic Sanitarium Hospital at 235 N. Hoover. (posted by GW)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/834/zx92.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=18133


..or it could be from the
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/834/3fu7.jpg
posted by ER at http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=15314

It's difficult to figure out.
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About the same time I came across the osteopathic truck, I also found this impressive postcard from 1907.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/836/can0.jpg
ebay


-previously we only had this illustration, so the postcard is a great improvement.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/843/6moj.jpg
ER at http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=18135


HossC's posts maps here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=18137

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ethereal_reality Apr 17, 2014 2:21 AM

Los Angeles 1960
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/836/q7ej.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...0/842/7hca.jpg

ethereal_reality Apr 17, 2014 2:26 AM

Auto parts store on West Pico. (no specific address)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/838/uwcg.jpg
ebay

This store seems especially modern when compared to the automobiles.
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unihikid Apr 17, 2014 2:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6543080)

I may be wrong but thats Layfeeet Square, and not an apartment building but Paul R Williams home.It on St. Charles near Western. The area looks the same minus the old car and the mini palm.

Krell58 Apr 17, 2014 3:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6542605)

On LA Noire, there is a tunnel exit about where the two level parking is behind the building. If you drive through it, it exits at Belmont station. Unfortunately, you can't enter the building to see the terminal in the basement.

It's a shame they couldn't have used the basement terminal for the new subways. Does the new subway entrance below the park go deeper than the old terminal?

ProphetM Apr 17, 2014 4:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6542485)

Back to the Subway Terminal Building, and as the main structure goes up in the background, work begins on the Subway Terminal Service Building on 4th. The former Hotel Sheldon now seems to be called the Hotel Eddy. The parking garage is on the right.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ayService2.jpg
California State Library

The CSL has a whole series of construction pictures for both the Subway Terminal Building and the Subway Terminal Service Building. Here's the latter with its framework in place.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ayService3.jpg
California State Library

And here it is with the exterior nearly finished.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ayService4.jpg
California State Library

My original post also mentioned the fake painted windows on the back of the Subway Terminal Building. This is LAPL's caption for the picture below.

"The painted facade of the Subway Terminal Building also features a painting of the painters at work, or trompe l'oeil (trick of the eye). This is a close-up view of murals on a blank exterior wall, adding 62 painted windows as part of a $3-million restoration. Artist Jeff Greene, using silica-based mineral paint, painted the 560' x 28' mural in 1986."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ayService5.jpg
LAPL

The fake windows are still there, but the fake painters have gone.

Have they? Or are they just not quite in the assumed place? :)

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-e...0/IMG_4919.JPG
Me, taken from the south end of the plaza at the top of Angel's Flight

The old garage is on the right side of the Subway Terminal Service Building, with trompe l'oeil above it, but there is also now a garage on the left side as well, and more trompe l'oeil. There are our painters, on the left.

Here's another shot, taken from 4th St. just east of Hill:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g...0/IMG_4950.JPG
Me again

Flyingwedge Apr 17, 2014 7:06 AM

I hope these guys had health insurance
 
Pacific Guano Fertilizer Company, 1929 (4522 Worth St., East LA; newer-looking building now on site)

I don't think it's ever a good idea to stand in front of a 12-foot-high concave wall of dried bird sh*t; one moderate earthquake and this guy is a Darwin Award winner!
It looks like it would have been pretty dark in there, too, without the flash from the photo (the guy is holding a flashlight):
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...6.jpg~original

No hardhat, no eye protection, no mask, no gloves, no nuthin' -- and I hope he's not trying to pull that one sack out of the middle:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...5.jpg~original

At least they had some mechanized help with all those sacks:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...e.jpg~original
All USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/14239/rec/6

HossC Apr 17, 2014 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6542485)

The fake windows are still there, but the fake painters have gone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 6543182)

Have they? Or are they just not quite in the assumed place? :)

The old garage is on the right side of the Subway Terminal Service Building, with trompe l'oeil above it, but there is also now a garage on the left side as well, and more trompe l'oeil. There are our painters, on the left.

Here's another shot, taken from 4th St. just east of Hill:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g...0/IMG_4950.JPG
Me again

Thanks for the correction, ProphetM. I concentrated my attention on the rear of the building and didn't realize that the mural continued to the front. It's good to know that the painters are still there.



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Another quick "then and now".

Luther's Automotive Service at 1212 W Slauson, seen here in 1933.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2WSlauson1.jpg
USC Digital Library

Slauson Auto Restoration at 1212 W Slauson, seen here in 2011. The window on the left has been boarded up, but I think it's the same building.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2WSlauson2.jpg
GSV

GaylordWilshire Apr 17, 2014 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 6543097)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6543080)

I may be wrong but thats Layfeeet Square, and not an apartment building but Paul R Williams home.It on St. Charles near Western. The area looks the same minus the old car and the mini palm.


You're right, uni, that's Paul Williams's house at 1690 S Victoria. More here: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1885

GaylordWilshire Apr 17, 2014 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6543363)
Another quick "then and now".

Luther's Automotive Service at 1212 W Slauson, seen here in 1933.

http://i.imgur.com/J0CWJ7w.jpg?1?4638http://i.imgur.com/JS3gOIA.jpg?1?7682
USC Digital Library/GSV

Slauson Auto Restoration at 1212 W Slauson, seen here in 2011. The window on the left has been boarded up, but I think it's the same building.


The urns are gone, not surprisingly, but I was amazed to see that what appear to be the original four lights aimed at the signage are still there. Wonder if they still work?

HossC Apr 17, 2014 1:16 PM

Union Oil gas station on the north east corner of S Western Avenue and W Slauson Avenue in 1933.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ilSlauson1.jpg
USC Digital Library

The gas station appears to be unchanged on this 1954 aerial.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ilSlauson2.jpg
Historic Aerials

A close-up of the house that can be seen through the left side of the gas station.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ilSlauson3.jpg
Detail of picture above.

The layout of the gas station has changed over the years, but the house on 58th Street is still there.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ilSlauson4.jpg
Google Maps

whizbang Apr 17, 2014 2:02 PM

I am completely fascinated with the Willat/Spadena/Witch's House. I built a 1/2" = 1' scale model based on photos I collected from the internet. I'd post a picture but I haven't figured that out yet. I've since discovered drawings on the BeverlyHills.Org site from when the Greens remodeled it. Now I want to build a larger, more accurate model. I am working with the owner of the Beverly Hills Heritage f/b page. Does anyone out there know the colors of the shingles on the Willat Studios location of this house? I have a tinted postcard but don't know if it's accurate. Thank you.

ethereal_reality Apr 17, 2014 3:32 PM

:previous: Good luck on your project whizbang! I don't know the color of the shingles though.
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HossC Apr 17, 2014 3:49 PM

How about a "then, then and now"? The old Sunset Boulevard overpass gets replaced with a single span.

"View of the Sunset Boulevard overpass on Glendale Boulevard before reconstruction, April 7, 1934"

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...aleSunset1.jpg
USC Digital Library

"Sunset Boulevard overpass on Glendale Boulevard after reconstruction, October 4, 1934"

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...aleSunset2.jpg
USC Digital Library

The overpass today. The building on the right appears to be the same, even though the windows have been heavily modified.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...aleSunset3.jpg
GSV

HossC Apr 17, 2014 4:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whizbang (Post 6543495)
I am completely fascinated with the Willat/Spadena/Witch's House. I built a 1/2" = 1' scale model based on photos I collected from the internet. I'd post a picture but I haven't figured that out yet. I've since discovered drawings on the BeverlyHills.Org site from when the Greens remodeled it. Now I want to build a larger, more accurate model. I am working with the owner of the Beverly Hills Heritage f/b page. Does anyone out there know the colors of the shingles on the Willat Studios location of this house? I have a tinted postcard but don't know if it's accurate. Thank you.

I can't help with colors, but this 1923 picture shows a huge variety of shades.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...itchsHouse.jpg
hollywoodphotographs.com


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