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tovangar2 Mar 23, 2013 7:34 PM

Richfield Oil
 
OMG, Richfield. They knew how to splurge, including the most beautiful building money could buy and the crackerjack plane above. Left us some nice pix though. Thx MR.

"When Richfield Oil went into receivership in 1931, an audit revealed an operating loss of $54,000,000. Officials of the company had been maintaining a suite of rooms at a downtown hotel at an annual rental of $50,000 and had been spending company funds, at the rate of $50,000 per month, for entertainment. Certain of these officials were indebted to the company for sums ranging from five to five hundred thousand dollars. Items such as alimony, purchases of jewelery, "repair of speedboat", and so forth, had been blithely charged to the company. One official had given a yacht party off Catalina Island for some motion picture stars. Late at night, an airplane, specially chartered, flew over the yacht and showered his guests with gardenias."

Carey McWilliams
"Southern California, An Island on the Land"
chap XII, 3.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6063596)
Never quite understood why this building's address has been listed as both odd and even, e.g., 1421 and 1424. Reasonably sure that Joseph Schenk and his wife, Norma Talmadge had something to do with the construction and/or ownership of the building, formerly known as the Voltaire Apts.

Apparently Norma Talmadge willed this building to her sister Natalie upon her death in '57. The address was then listed as 1413-1421 1/2 N Crescent Heights: http://www.stanford.edu/~gdegroat/NT/addresses.htm

Great pix. Thx.

MichaelRyerson Mar 23, 2013 9:34 PM

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8225/8...291d3f36_o.png
Los Angeles and the automobile, Dick Whittington, 1958

An interesting if unusual take on the Los Angeles skyline.

USC digital archive/Dick Whittington Photography Collection, 1924-1987

GaylordWilshire Mar 24, 2013 3:04 AM

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5223/illich1250.jpg
Private Collection


Jerry Illich's 1895 building at 219 W 3rd St., as seen in Los Angeles Today Architecturally, published in 1896.


http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1...charticleb.jpg
LAT



Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6063022)
It looks like the rescue mission used to be a restaurant with a tent covered roof garden. I had no idea.

http://imageshack.us/a/img26/7182/aa...90laherald.jpg
Los Angeles Herald 1890
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GaylordWilshire Mar 24, 2013 3:51 AM

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/535/byrne1250.jpg
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/4...rnegsv1250.jpg
Private Collection/GSV


The Fred J. Byrne Building by Theodore Eisen and Sumner Hunt--now the Pan American Lofts--at the northwest corner of Broadway and 3rd, 1895...as seen in Los Angeles Today Architecturally, published in 1896.



Quote:

Originally Posted by JScott (Post 6063019)
Downtown Los Angeles, probably winter 1894, as viewed from the Crocker Mansion. At center, the Stimson Block (1893) – Los Angeles's first 'skyscraper' – and the Bradbury Building (1893), right, are both brand new; the Byrne Building (1895), katty-corner to the Bradbury, has yet to rise. City Hall, left, is only 6 years old.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-G...2520PM.bmp.jpg
U.S.C Digital Library/California Historical Society

The Crocker manse and Downtown skyline. In extreme closeup, I can make out a 44- and 45-star flag, which, together with the presence of the Byrne, dates the photo to around 1896-7.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h...2520PM.bmp.jpg
U.S.C Digital Library/California Historical Society


tovangar2 Mar 24, 2013 5:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6064445)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-N...925%2520PM.jpg
Private Collection


Jerry Illich's 1895 building at 219 W 3rd St., as seen in Los Angeles Today Architecturally, published in 1896.

Thx. Gorgeous pic. (Illich was sure one for flying the flag.)

This was just across Frank Court from the beautiful (and slightly later) Douglas Block and just two doors east of the Rindge Building?

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-M...155%2520PM.jpg
gsv

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3...832%2520PM.jpg
http://www.bigmapblog.com/2011/birds...f-los-angeles/


Great location.

There...
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-N...200%2520PM.jpg
LAT (detail) posted previously by GW


Sounds like heaven.



Too bad it's gone, but I guess that red car needed a parking space:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-a...454%2520PM.jpg
gsv

GaylordWilshire Mar 24, 2013 12:35 PM

http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/1...endual1250.jpg
KCET


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5856032)
Beethoven in Pershing Square, 1932.
http://imageshack.us/a/img521/5773/b...rshingsqua.jpg
ebay
Does Beethoven still reside in Pershing Square?
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He's still there--full story here.


http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6...enarty1250.jpg
GSV

MichaelRyerson Mar 24, 2013 1:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6064445)
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5223/illich1250.jpg
Private Collection


Jerry Illich's 1895 building at 219 W 3rd St., as seen in Los Angeles Today Architecturally, published in 1896.


http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1...charticleb.jpg
LAT

Beautiful as it was, it didn't last long, having been replaced by the Delmonte by 1914. Perhaps prematurely tearing down one beautiful building to replace it with a bigger, less beautiful building is in our civic DNA.

belmont bob Mar 24, 2013 4:02 PM

[QUOTE=GaylordWilshire;6064445]http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5223/illich1250.jpg
Private Collection


QUOTE]

The little circular balcony over the entry is such a small feature yet it shows the architectural thought and detail that so many of the old buildings had. It would appear to have no real value other than it was special…

Well maybe I’m wrong..i see the flag line drops to the balcony, so maybe it was used to lower and raise the flag, although I would think the flag might get caught on the building face…

tovangar2 Mar 24, 2013 6:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6064674)
Beautiful as it was, it didn't last long, having been replaced by the Delmonte by 1914. Perhaps prematurely tearing down one beautiful building to replace it with a bigger, less beautiful building is in our civic DNA.

Yes, but it's nice to "remember" what a beautiful streetscape that was around the turn of the 20th century with Angels Flight rising at the end.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-m...626%2520AM.jpg
gsv

...and it's still pretty good. Better than many.

BifRayRock Mar 24, 2013 8:22 PM

1960 - Hope Street Cottage. Exact location?

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...D82J2NRTKT.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/F/5D65...001&format=999

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...SH20_OU01_.jpghttp://www.amazon.com/Angeles-Storie.../dp/0872865193

rbpjr Mar 24, 2013 8:59 PM

Gives new meaning to the term: Tree house

BifRayRock Mar 24, 2013 9:20 PM




Glendora, also known as "Alosta." "Pride of the Foothills"


Quote:

Located at the foot of the San Gabriel Mountains, modern Glendora was founded on April 1, 1887 by George D. Whitcomb who moved to California from Illinois in the early 1880s. Whitcomb was the founder of the Whitcomb Locomotive Works in Chicago and Rochelle, Illinois. He devised the name Glendora by combining the name of his wife, Leadora Bennett Whitcomb, with the location of his home in a glen of the San Gabriel Mountains http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glendora,_California


"In 1888 brothers J. P. and Dr. A. E. Engelhardt, built Glendora's first store building, a grocery and drug store, which was located on north Vista Bonita Avenue."
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics53/00076306.jpg Lapl


1888 - Glendora Grammar School
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics43/00056117.jpgLapl


Undated - Livery Stable
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics53/00076304.jpgLapl



Undated - Rancho Los Alisos Scenery
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00076/00076283.jpgLapl


1895 - Odell Residence, Bennett and Washington Aves. (An older 2-story structure was recently found at one corner. But it looks different than the buildng pictured.)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00076/00076296.jpgLapl




Undated - Pacific Electric Station
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics07/00013181.jpgLapl




1888 - a Alosta from the air.
https://www.raremaps.com/maps/large/23039.jpghttps://www.raremaps.com/gallery/det...888/Moore.html

MichaelRyerson Mar 24, 2013 9:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6058540)
A spectacular view of the Hollywood Freeway under construction 1952 or 1953.

http://imageshack.us/a/img850/6792/1...nstruction.jpg
old cd of mine/ebay I believe

Notice the red car crossing Temple Street. It's traveling south between the two Hill Street tunnels.
(tunnel#1 lower left corner, tunnel#2 behind the apartment building)

Can anyone name the various apartment buildings? -just wondering :)
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Always really liked this image. Have we seen it here before? I don't remember it being posted. It's a nice reverse angle of your post albeit a few years earlier.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8379/8...0f11f961_o.jpg
Aerial of Civic Center, 1945

LAPL

BifRayRock Mar 24, 2013 9:57 PM





Too far north for noir?


When those special members of the BPOE need to hit the sand? What would Thaddeus Lowe and J.W. Eddy have thought?



Hope Ranch - Bryce Beach cabañas and funicular designated an Historic Landmark by Santa Barbara County Bd of Supervisors. http://santabarbara.legistar.com/Leg...2-890205DF161A




1941 - Santa Barbara Beach - Fascinating funicular looks like fabulous fun.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...DXJ3DDDYX8.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...DXJ3DDDYX8.jpg


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...B5Y88KIFEG.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...B5Y88KIFEG.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...G1CMQRKLHC.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...G1CMQRKLHC.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...3F9LRTB73Q.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...3F9LRTB73Q.jpg

MichaelRyerson Mar 24, 2013 9:58 PM


My guess is 129 S. Hope. The last surviving cottage (front left, facing the address) in an eight or nine unit court.

Godzilla Mar 24, 2013 11:34 PM

LA area funiculars.

Mt. Lowe's solitude in the heart of the city? For some reason, the depicted trolleys all seem to be going . . . downhill. (Melancholy noir?)

So many previous "Flying Trolley" references. Good starting points:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=370
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=376


Mt. Lowe - Circa '23
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics28/00063685.jpg



1962 When noir and color converge.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00102/00102813.jpg


http://jpg1.lapl.org/00102/00102814.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00102/00102798.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00102/00102797.jpg




http://jpg1.lapl.org/00077/00077821.jpg





1965 - Lonely
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00092/00092186.jpg

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics50/00074608.jpg


http://jpg1.lapl.org/00092/00092185.jpg

1965
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00077/00077825.jpg

Loneliest
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics37/00068036.jpg


Undated - Court Flight
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics14/00026573.jpg




1984 - City of Industry. An air of monochromatic solitude. (Currently part of Pacific Palms Resort, La Puente)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics47/00043246.jpg


ALL from Lapl

tovangar2 Mar 25, 2013 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5330118)
parker center was just way to sterile to ever be considered noir. you want lapd noir? then ya gotta go here................

the old central station at 1st and hill...(hell's yeah! even the meter maid trike looks noir!)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6026/...7a7c52f3_b.jpg
Source: Hollywood historic photos


e_r
reposted this pic earlier this month. I'm using it as an excuse to post some more screen grabs from "Cry Danger" (1951) (I already posted some of Union Station from the opening sequence).Most of you have already seen the film. I think "Cry Danger" is a kind of a minor, but really fun, film, said to be directed by Dick Powell, even though Robert Parrish got the credit. Filmed in 21 days. There's only a couple of green screens, most of the outdoor scenes are shot on the streets. There's a couple of good location interiors too. Snappy dialogue and plenty of nice shots of "my" childhood LA.

Lots of other screen grabs from "Cry Danger" have been posted here on the thread. I'll try not to repeat. First, to save confusion, here's a useful map of the Clover Trailer Park (not a set-up. It was real):

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 5520566)

In Cry Danger they drove up Sunset (now Cesar Chavez) and turned right on N. Hill Place. The trailer park was maybe 500 feet up the road, on the right. It sat right above Ord Street in Chinatown.

Clover Trailer Park was located in the highlighted area

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6290/trailernq.jpg
Google Maps

Title card (a train is seen zipping though orange groves; we're headed for LA):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W...710%2520PM.jpg

The dive bar (OMG, that man can rock a fedora):
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-E...559%2520PM.jpg

3rd & Olive at night (Angels Flight Cafe in the backgound):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-t...818%2520PM.jpg

3rd & Olive at night, the reverse shot (great shadows):
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-A...921%2520PM.jpg

Dick Powell drops Rhonda Fleming off at "work":
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5...114%2520PM.jpg

Looking for info:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8...234%2520PM.jpg

Finding trouble:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5...305%2520PM.jpg

Interior of the Nugent/Grand/"Crosley" Deli (so much better than that terrible grocery store set in Double Indemnity):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v...827%2520PM.jpg

Entering the Nugent/Grand/"Crosley" lobby (3rd & Grand):
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g...309%2520PM.jpg

Cab turning in at the Clover Trailer Park:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-m...307%2520PM.jpg

Clover Trailer Park at night:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-d...721%2520PM.jpg

Assassination at Clover Trailer Park:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-y...027%2520PM.jpg

William Conrad outside the old Central Police Station, 1st & Hill (the excuse for this post):
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-v...440%2520PM.jpg

Thugs traveling east on 3rd, at Olive:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-y...707%2520PM.jpg

Thugs arriving at 3rd & Olive (Angels Flight Cafe in backgound):
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-C...941%2520PM.jpg

Oh no, here come the cops (3rd & Olive):
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-I...105%2520PM.jpg

The shootout at 3rd & Olive:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3...143%2520PM.jpg

Powell walks away from Clover Trailer Park on N Hill Place:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-b...551%2520PM.jpg

All above, RKO Radio Pictures / netflix


The "Cry Danger" trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kut03z4ItU8

More location info: http://americanfilmnoir.com/page17.html

BifRayRock Mar 25, 2013 1:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6065266)

e_r
reposted this pic earlier this month. I'm using it as an excuse to post some more screen grabs from "Cry Danger" (1951) (I already posted some of Union Station from the opening sequence).Most of you have already seen the film. I think "Cry Danger" is a kind of a minor, but really fun, film, said to be directed by Dick Powell, even though Robert Parrish got the credit. Filmed in 21 days. There's only a couple of green screens, most of the outdoor scenes are shot on the streets. There's a couple of good location interiors too. Snappy dialogue and plenty of nice shots of "my" childhood LA.

Dick Powell drops Rhonda Fleming off at "work":
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5...114%2520PM.jpg




I'm sure it has been noted before. The work place is at 7000 Romaine, an address inextricably connected with RKO and someone named Howard Hughes.


http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2636/3...2311ba30_b.jpghttp://www.flickr.com/photos/hollywo...n/photostream/

See: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7681


tovangar2 Mar 25, 2013 1:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 6065317)


I'm sure it has been noted before. The work place is at 7000 Romaine, an address inextricably connected with RKO and someone named Howard Hughes.


http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2636/3...2311ba30_b.jpghttp://www.flickr.com/photos/hollywo...n/photostream/

See: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7681


I did know that one:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-x...108%2520PM.jpg

...but I can't ID the residential street and apartment building. It'll be on the net somewhere.

BTW, the best scene in "The Aviator": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH5Q12Yb5u8




P.S. Accoding to IMDB, the "Cry Danger" car was a unibody 2-door 1950 Nash Statesman 600 which featured the 1-year only "uniscope" instrument pod (seen above).

And some info on 7000 Romaine:
http://dearoldhollywood.blogspot.com...dquarters.html
http://rdujour.com/2013/03/05/places...t-one-eye-l-a/


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-d...923%2520PM.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3138321...in/photostream

rick m Mar 25, 2013 3:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6065108)
My guess is 129 S. Hope. The last surviving cottage (front left, facing the address) in an eight or nine unit court.

You are blocks north with your guess - This was at 321 S.Hope - just by its lonesome always at the top o the stairway rising from 3rd Street west tunnel-see LAPL photo database - I helped the curator with this location back in 2004 -- Actually it is in their image (A-004-109 L.A. - Residences-Bunker Hill )-Viewed looking at it from a railway position hovering over the stairway facing south and the hulk of the Sawyer Apts stand adjacent then to this wee cottage with the palm tree --


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