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odinthor Feb 22, 2017 8:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7720069)
Just wondering, when these mystery locations are identified, like this one or the Santa Monica Beach houses photo, which were determined to be in Hermosa Beach, does anyone go back to the eBay post and offer the seller this information?

Many moons before I was a member here, for about a decade or so I was a constant snatcher-upper of L.A. etc. postcards and such on eBay (back when members had a distinctive moniker-identity rather than the random I.D. which presently shows on auctions/buy-it-nows). I'd frequently message sellers who weren't aware of what something was/where something was, even if I wasn't planning to make a bid; and sometimes I'd even message longtime auction rivals who managed to top my bid and win because I wanted to make sure they knew the value of what they had gotten. It was fun, and I made several firm cyber-friendships. The one such interaction I remember most, though, was a seller who had an image of something on Hill St. (I forget just what), and he proudly said in the auction text that he "obtained it directly from Mr. Hill, whose great-grandparents the street was named after" (or something much like that). He didn't seem very enchanted when I told him that the street's name was Calle de las Lomas long before anyone named "Hill" lived on or near it; but he at least thanked me, if a little stiffly . . .

Martin Pal Feb 22, 2017 9:07 PM

^^^

Interesting...I wondered how people selling things on eBay would react if one offered correct information. I'd rather some of them would say they don't really know, but that it might be...such and such. Of course, their main interest is in selling it. Maybe NLA could open a location detective service!
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Love those gas station photos, HossC!

ethereal_reality Feb 22, 2017 10:28 PM

OK, I've stared at this photograph for quite awhile.


What, pray-tell, is this horizontal square attached to the pole.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/r92ahe.jpg
Originally posted by HossC

At first I thought it might it be where you stand to sign credit card receipts. Then I thought it might be a snack table.

but now I'm not sure it's high enough off the ground.

Does anyone know what it is?

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ethereal_reality Feb 22, 2017 10:35 PM

And while I'm asking questions.

What about the color-coordinated hoses.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/vJvbGR.jpg
detail

edit:


oops. I just realized Hoss said it was lubrication.
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Martin Pal Feb 22, 2017 10:48 PM

I don't know why I never thought about it, as I know about a lot of things concerning the coast of California and WWII,
but I noticed an out of print book online called Santa Catalina Island Goes to War and in looking for photos from it, without
much luck, I saw that the relatively new Catalina Island Museum also had an exhibit called "First Line of Defense," but it's gone
and so is their webpage for the exhibit that was on their Museum site.

I did, however, find a few items from some various news articles written about the exhibition, I don't recall seeing on NLA before.
I am assuming the accompanying photos from the articles came from the exhibition.

This was the exhibition's logo:

http://ecatalina.com/images/1768/2654_1__medium.jpg


When WWII began Catalina Island became "a training camp for OSS spies, commandoes, merchant marines, Coast Guard recruits, and other uniformed service
members. Vacant hotels became barracks. Empty marinas, yacht clubs, and even the Cubs' spring training ballpark were transformed into simulated war zones.
Between 1942 and 1945 four different branches of the Military were stationed on the Island.


This is captioned "Soldiers march through Avalon." (You call them sailors don't you?)

http://ecatalina.com/images/1768/2654_4__large.jpg
^^^
I noticed a sign for "Hotel Central" and one for a "Cafeteria" whose name possibly has two O's in it. GOOD? FOOD?

At the Island villas. (Shooting craps? Shooting the breeze?)

http://ecatalina.com/images/683/967_2__large.jpg

United States Maritime Service (USMS) soldiers with anti-aircraft guns on Casino Point.

http://ecatalina.com/images/1768/2654_2__large.jpg


http://ecatalina.com/images/52/52_3__large.jpg


The USMS soldiers during water training; learning to swim through oil and oil fires.

http://ecatalina.com/images/1768/2654_3__large.jpg

http://a.scpr.org/i/0c711fc4e4f5020e...58236-full.jpg


Recruits running up the islands steep firebreaks.

https://www.kcet.org/sites/kl/files/...ire-breaks.jpg


Recruits training in Avalon Harbor.

https://www.kcet.org/sites/kl/files/...-Harbor-sm.jpg


Sixteen year old Norma Jean Baker (Marilyn Monroe) married Jim Dougherty. When he was
sent to Catalina during WWII, he brought her along where she resided for a year. (1943)

http://cdn.20m.es/img2/recortes/2011...82-557-550.jpg

Martin Pal Feb 22, 2017 10:48 PM

Speaking of WWII, the 75th anniversary of
The Great Los Angeles Air Raid is this weekend.

http://www.redhotretro.com/wp-conten..._n-198x300.jpg

Is anyone going?

HossC Feb 22, 2017 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7720518)

This is captioned "Soldiers march through Avalon." (You call them sailors don't you?)

http://ecatalina.com/images/1768/2654_4__large.jpg
^^^
I noticed a sign for "Hotel Central" and one for a "Cafeteria" whose name possibly has two O's in it. GOOD? FOOD?

"Boos Bros. Cafeteria, located on the corner of Crescent Ave. and Metropole Ave. in Santa Catalina Island. Several people can be seen sitting on the long wooden benches, possibly waiting to enter the cafeteria, while others walk along the sidewalk. Two men riding horses and a three automobiles share the street."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...sCatalina1.jpg
LAPL

ethereal_reality Feb 22, 2017 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovanger

Brentwood Canyon, 1924, dry as a bone, looking SE from the air above Brentwood Country Club:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4V...g=w600-h505-no
lapl (detail)

The water tower (upper right corner, above) doesn't exist anymore, but the Mt Olivet reservoir is still there on Franklin St.

:previous: Thanks so much for this t2.

Your labels really made things much more clearer.

(I certainly don't remember a water tower at that spot!)
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Blaster Feb 22, 2017 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7720520)
Speaking of WWII, the 75th anniversary of
The Great Los Angeles Air Raid is this weekend.

http://www.redhotretro.com/wp-conten..._n-198x300.jpg

Is anyone going?

I wonder if they'll play John Williams' march from 1941.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wYIGy0E3ps

tovangar2 Feb 22, 2017 11:40 PM

Ethelwyn Manor Heights/Mount Olivet/Franklin Hill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7720545)

(I certainly don't remember a water tower at that spot!)
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I love the 1913 artist rendering of the planned Ethelwyn Manor Heights development in that link I posted. That gazebo never got built (I'd guess we're looking west here):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jj...=w1241-h563-no
http://westsidetoday.com/2014/09/19/...-lost-canyons/

ethereal_reality Feb 23, 2017 1:01 AM

Here's a rare collectible currently on ebay.

"Black-Foxe Military Academy belt buckle"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/oMEkwe.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Black-F...UAAOSwZQRYhpRo

I like the fox head design.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7585218)


tovangar2 Feb 23, 2017 1:49 AM

Black-Foxe
 
e_r, Did we talk about the surviving Black-Foxe buildings?:

"The men of the Black-Foxe Military Institute gathered at the school‘s last surviving buildings -- the erstwhile kindergarten and headmaster’s quarters -- of the long-closed academy on Wilcox Avenue just below Melrose. The Harry Hayden Whiteley--designed Mediterranean Revival structures are city-designated historical monuments and today form the home of David Aguirre. Aguirre, who hosted the reunion, is the Magic Castle maitre d‘ who bought the property five years ago and rehabilitated it from a homeless squat to its former glory."
http://www.laweekly.com/news/men-of-...school-2133325

I can't find them.

ethereal_reality Feb 23, 2017 1:50 AM

:previous: I can't remember offhand t2. I'll have to check it out.


Remember the ax murderer we most recently discussed back in January?

Well here's the girl he took to the movies a few hours after he committed the murders.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/wMPhuy.jpg
ebay


"Miss Mary Johnson, age 21, at the trial of Louis Rude Payne charged with hacking to death his mother and brother.
Miss Johnson accompanied Payne to a picture show a few hours after the mother and brother were killed.
She said she noticed nothing peculiar about the youth except that his clothes seemed disheveled when he called on her." 7/25/34


I think it was GW who pointed out the lack of blood in the bedroom-murder scene photographs.

So are we to believe Payne didn't change his clothes (before going on his date) after hacking two people to death?

Where's all the blood!!



press release
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/GNKd4F.jpg

tovangar2 Feb 23, 2017 2:42 AM

Payne Murders.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7720741)

So are we to believe Payne didn't change his clothes (before going on his date) after hacking two people to death?

Where's all the blood!!


I think the pair were already dead when Payne hacked them up. Could he have poisoned them first?

ethereal_reality Feb 23, 2017 3:07 AM

:previous: I didn't think of that t2.

So no blood splatter, but there'd still be blood.















made me think of this.....

http://imageshack.com/a/img922/8435/V4ty1h.gif

where's the blood? ;)

tovangar2 Feb 23, 2017 4:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7720824)

So no blood splatter, but there'd still be blood.


I think corpses don't bleed much, if at all, just leak a bit, depending on how long they've been dead. Do we know how much damage Payne did to the bodies? Are there autopsy pix?


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On those Black-Foxe buildings, they're apparently the ones at 601 Wilcox (I was looking for something more institutional). That lot is within the old Black-Foxe footprint.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ri...A=w502-h494-no
google maps

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/us...=w1024-h468-no
gsv

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/cg...w=w820-h476-no
google maps

Harry Hayden Whiteley was the architect, but he didn't design the building and garage for the school. That was his own office at 520 S. Western Ave. The structures were moved to Wilcox for the headmasters residence and the kindergarten:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/cM...Q=w675-h442-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/T9...g=w674-h448-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8c...w=w673-h149-no
ladbs

This is what is at 520 S Western now:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Hb...w=w496-h437-no
gsv

ethereal_reality Feb 23, 2017 4:11 AM

'mystery' roster.


I had never heard of the 'Order of the Rainbow for Girls' until I came across this pamphlet.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/mNUqZQ.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1945-Or...UAAOSwa-dWosM3








http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/nJAQM4.jpg
ebay

Note that they're meeting at the Masonic Temple on Hollywood Blvd.....................................................:previous:

Do you think the 'Order of Rainbow for Girls' was connected with the Masons, or were they just using the space?





Dedication page.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/cFr4GY.jpg
ebay




Sample roster page. G thru L
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/UtI99r.jpg
ebay

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The Pin

I'm thinking the cauldron might represent the 'pot of gold' at the end of the rainbow. (but the lid's on so I can't tell) ;)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/2DrnwS.jpgdetail

But what does B. F. G. L. stand for?

(The R inside the triangle no doubt stands for Rainbow.



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Earl Boebert Feb 23, 2017 4:23 AM

It's the Mason organization for young women.

Cheers,

Earl

RudyJK Feb 23, 2017 4:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7720317)
Today's Julius Shulman subject isn't new to NLA, but I thought it was worth posting the other four color photos from the set. It's "Job 2202: Mobil Station (Anaheim, Calif.), 1956". Does anyone recognize the car on the far right?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original





Competition wasn't far away - I spy a 76 sign on the far right.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute


This is maybe the most beautiful gas station ever. Pegasus is spectacular; did he survive?

ER I thought maybe the platform was a shelf to display cans of oil or other products with signage above and asymmetrical. Maybe the free 6 pack of Coke or dinnerware of the week. http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Y3EAAO...SjJ/s-l300.jpg

tovangar2 Feb 23, 2017 4:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7720500)
OK, I've stared at this photograph for quite awhile.

What, pray-tell, is this horizontal square attached to the pole.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/r92ahe.jpg
Originally posted by HossC

Does anyone know what it is?

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Could it be for cigarettes? Back in the day one could buy packs ($0.25) and cartons ($2.00) from the pump attendant. They were kept in a lock-up out on the apron.



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zo...A=w529-h509-no
pinterest


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