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tovangar2 Dec 27, 2015 4:57 AM

Neutra's Jardinette
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mstimc (Post 7281245)
Sermon over. :rolleyes:

Thx for speaking up Tim. I didn't take that as a sermon at all. It would be awful if we all had the same opinions.

An unfortunate thing about the Jardinette is that it was designed for a different site. As built, it's facing north, so all the lovely winter sunshine hits the back of the building. Conversely, the balconies are probably too hot in summer.

Mstimc Dec 27, 2015 5:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7281296)
Thx for speaking up Tim. I didn't take that as a sermon at all. It would be awful if we all had the same opinions.

An unfortunate thing about the Jardinette is that it was designed for a different site. As built, it's facing north, so all the lovely winter sunshine hits the back of the building. Conversely, the balconies are probably too hot in summer.

Thanks, Tovangar! You make a good point. A building of any style in the wrong spot will never look quite right. Plop the Gamble House in a tract of Spanish-Mediterranean knock-offs and it would look a bit out of place!

tovangar2 Dec 27, 2015 6:57 AM

:previous:

Actually, if you take Marathon east across Western from the Jardinette, within just two blocks of the Neutra building, there is the darling (IMHO) neighborhood of Melrose Hill. It's got some of the prettiest streetlamps in the city:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-t...4%252520PM.jpg
gsv

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-u...0%252520PM.jpg
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0847.../data=!3m1!1e3

jumbo0 Dec 27, 2015 8:47 AM

Im' not sure if this was already posted -i'm reading through all the pages but this takes time ;) - but I just love the before/after photos! I would like to contribute a few aerial images from historicaerials.com. It's sometimes sad to see how things have changed.

http://s30.postimg.org/of60bnskx/image.jpg http://s30.postimg.org/fvmmdwk8h/1_1.jpg
Farmers Market.

http://s30.postimg.org/zaxe70dip/image.jpg http://s30.postimg.org/truupsghd/2_1.jpg
101 Hwy close to the Hollywood Bowl.

http://s30.postimg.org/xhuhiosc1/image.jpg http://s30.postimg.org/mxkk03nu9/3_1.jpg
Santa Monica Pier. Note how they added some extra beach.

http://s30.postimg.org/73apnc5f5/image.jpg http://s30.postimg.org/8jm85h8c1/4_1.jpg
I710 / I10.

http://s30.postimg.org/lg45lnpf5/image.jpg http://s30.postimg.org/dktm6ufsh/5_1.jpg
Downtown Los Angeles.

http://s30.postimg.org/plf27kn75/image.jpg http://s30.postimg.org/4r2ppqstt/6_1.jpg
Dodger Stadium.

http://s30.postimg.org/giql0jng1/image.jpg http://s30.postimg.org/7c8ad9i7l/7_1.jpg
Berverly Hills (Sunset Blvd in the top from left to right).

ethereal_reality Dec 27, 2015 3:04 PM

:previous: Excellent before and after aerials Jumbo0!



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HossC Dec 27, 2015 3:55 PM

I came across this "hyperlapse" video earlier - I don't think we've seen it before. From its creator, Vadim Tereshchenko:
This is compilation of hyperlapse videos that I shot over the course of the past 2 years. I spent a lot of time scouting for locations, waiting for the perfect conditions, and catching the beauty of the city. Lighting is important. Sunrises, sunsets; transitions from dawn to day, and from dusk to dark. I used a lot of self-developed tricks and techniques in both the shooting and editing processes - it took a lot of time and passion to make this video.

:previous:

It's well worth clicking the video link to watch the video at a larger size :).

sdmichael Dec 27, 2015 7:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6862740)
Unknown production company filming at the Bronson Caves in the 1920s.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...913/Op75Nv.jpg
ebay


I know most of you know where the Bronson Caves are located, but for those who don't, they're located southeast of the Hollywood sign (midway between the Hollywood Reservoir
and Griffith Observatory)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/k6sePc.png
Google Earth

In 1903, the Union Rock Company founded a quarry, originally named Bush Canyon, for excavation of crushed rock used in the construction of city streets.
The quarry ceased operation in the 1920s, leaving the caves behind. The caves became known as the Bronson Caves after a nearby street.
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This shows a bit more of the cave.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/hnIWVa.jpg
ebay
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Those caves aren't the Bronson Caves. What is shown is an actual glacier, not sure where however. You can see layers of snow/ice as well as glacial moraine. The geology is wrong for the Bronson location.

HossC Dec 27, 2015 8:06 PM

Thanks for the follow-ups on the Jardinette Apartments.

What a coincidence that jumbo0 chose to post a "then-and-now" of Chavez Ravine, because that's the subject of today's Julius Shulman post. It's a rather poignant look at mainly empty/abandoned streets. I can't help wondering how this neighborhood would look today if had been left to develop naturally. This is "Job 1537: Chavez Ravine (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1953".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

We've visited this area before - Tetsu posted pictures of the Sisters Of The Society Of Mary Convent on Paducah Street in post #18275, and I followed up with some aerials and other pictures in post #18280 and post #18316. To help make sense of the Shulman photos, I've highlighted Curtis Street and Malvina Avenue on this detail from Hill’s 1928 street map. The arrow marks a location between Paducah and Davis Streets where the Baist maps show a short diagonal road also called Curtis Street. I'm not sure which one is shown above.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original
www.bigmapblog.com

ethereal_reality Dec 27, 2015 10:29 PM

:previous: great map. note Lilac Terrace.




"View of Angelino Heights across Lilac Terrace" [1910s?]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...903/xyoPjU.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...907/Tgfnw1.jpghttp://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/D...wdate=&hidate=


Do you suppose the diagonal "road" is Ravine Drive? or am I looking at this wrong?

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ethereal_reality Dec 27, 2015 10:51 PM

I finally located further evidence of Mathie's.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...908/iwWdDg.jpgebay

:previous: I'd love to know where that truck is parked. It looks like an intriguing area.








below: Here's my earlier post from May of 2014.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6583109)


Bristolian Dec 27, 2015 11:04 PM

What a coincidence that jumbo0 chose to post a "then-and-now" of Chavez Ravine, because that's the subject of today's Julius Shulman post. It's a rather poignant look at mainly empty/abandoned streets. I can't help wondering how this neighborhood would look today if had been left to develop naturally. This is "Job 1537: Chavez Ravine (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1953".

Years ago I heard somebody say something to the effect of "When covering sports in Los Angeles, one of the questions you don't ask is how the Dodgers acquired the land for Dodger Stadium"

CityBoyDoug Dec 27, 2015 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdmichael (Post 7281527)
Those caves aren't the Bronson Caves. What is shown is an actual glacier, not sure where however. You can see layers of snow/ice as well as glacial moraine. The geology is wrong for the Bronson location.

Correct SDM....that is not the famous Bronson Caves. I too wonder where it is. It was probably wrongly labeled on ebay, so don't blame ER.

HossC Dec 28, 2015 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7281633)

I finally located further evidence of Mathie's.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...908/iwWdDg.jpgebay

The Mathie Brewing Company didn't just use trucks for deliveries!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
eBay

This clipping is from the April 5, 1908 edition of the Los Angeles Herald.
NB. I've balanced the columns.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
California Digital Newspaper Collection

tovangar2 Dec 28, 2015 12:36 AM

Vids
 
Some end-of-year vids from LA Curbed

(Click the links for full screen)

The 2024 (Olympic) Bid vid (includes some Ian Wood drone footage):

Video Link



Drone flight over and through Hollyhock House
(click the link below the image for this one):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2...5%252520PM.jpg
houzz


Peterson Automotive Museum redesign:

Video Link




And, of course, the Ian Wood drone videos of LA:

100+ LA locations:

(MAP for the above)

DTLA (from 2014):



I hope someone posts more; I am so in the mood for vids



P.S.

Also from LA Curbed, the Best LA Maps of 2015





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ethereal_reality Dec 28, 2015 2:54 AM

Thanks for the postcard of the Mathie Donkey Cart Hoss. It was great!

The 1909 Mathie Brewing Company ad has a typo.
The address should be 1834-1858 N. Main Street not East (obviously).

1916 directory
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...633/FCxMpe.jpg
lapl
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ethereal_reality Dec 28, 2015 3:10 AM

I just happened across this amazing original photograph on eBay.

"c1890s Los Angeles California Streetcars and Railroad Workers Photograph."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/905/7XuJcU.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/c1890s-Los-A...YAAOSwJcZWd4Lk


:previous: Why the shallow ditch running beneath the rails? -note the wood plank crossing it on the left. (maybe it's deeper than it looks)
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An hour and a half left on bidding.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/c1890s-Los-A...YAAOSwJcZWd4Lk

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CityBoyDoug Dec 28, 2015 3:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7281696)
Some end-of-year vids from LA Curbed

(Click the links for full screen)




Drone flight over and through Hollyhock House
(click the link below the image for this one):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2...5%252520PM.jpg
houzz





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The Hollyhock House:

This home, like all of FLLW's houses, were actually his homes.!! He just let you live in it.

tovangar2 Dec 28, 2015 4:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7281811)
The Hollyhock House:

This home, like all of FLLW's houses, were actually his homes.!! He just let you live it.

...on his terms.

ethereal_reality Dec 28, 2015 4:21 AM

I found this intriguing photograph earlier this evening on eBay.

Is anyone familiar with a tea house located in Silver Lake in the 1920s?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/jFoX11.jpg
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Los-Angele...UAAOSwjVVVpavw

This looks like an amazing place!



reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...910/CVUcGB.jpg

:previous: Silver Lake Tea 8/17/22 L.A. CA

Usually postcards that are undivided in the back are pre-1909, so I was surprised this one is dated 1922.

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Flyingwedge Dec 28, 2015 5:23 AM

Lilac Terrace and Chavez Ravine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7281621)
:previous: great map. note Lilac Terrace.

"View of Angelino Heights across Lilac Terrace" [1910s?]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...903/xyoPjU.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...907/Tgfnw1.jpghttp://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/D...wdate=&hidate=

Do you suppose the diagonal "road" is Ravine Drive? or am I looking at this wrong?

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You might be right, e_r. The direction of the photo seems to be OK for that. I can't pick out any landmarks, though,
other than the Baldwin Hills in the distance.

There was (and still is) a street called Lilac Terrace. The north and south sides of the street are on different Baist
Maps, and one of the maps didn't enlarge as much as the other. But you can match up the cross-streets like Boylston
and Chavez Ravine Rd. Sunset angles off of Lilac Terrace at the lower left corner of the top map, matching where
Sunset angles off Lilac in the upper left corner of the bottom map. The "dip" at the right side of Lilac Terrace on each
map is where Lookout Drive comes down off the hillside. Yale Street is at the extreme right of the bottom map (partially
cut off):
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...o.jpg~original

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...a.jpg~original
1921 Baist Maps @ HistoricMapworks -- http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US/19434/Plate+028/ and http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US/19412/Plate+006/

This is described as a 1951 Sanborn Map, but I think it's actually more like mid-40s. It shows the streets north of
Lilac Terrace (in the pink square on the top Baist map). I'm sorry that putting north at the top put most of the
names upside-down. In the lower left corner is Joplin Street:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...r.jpg~original
LAPL

I would now ask you to please scroll back up and look at the lower Baist map and review where it says "Los Angeles Brick
Co" below the Los Angeles Detention Hospital and the City Quarantine Station (between Lilac Terrace and Chavez Ravine
Road) . . . . OK now here's that same area on the 1951 Sanborn. "Steep Hill Side" and "High Clay Hill" are on the left side
of the map. The sort of bullseye thingy is a 75-foot-tall brick chimney:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...c.jpg~original
LAPL

Now, with those maps in mind, here are some c. 1950 Chavez Ravine photos.

Here is an overlapping panorama that includes what must be that 75-foot brick chimney between Lilac Terrace
(diagonal, just in front of chimney) and Chavez Ravine (rear, at the base of the steep hill side). I'm pretty sure
this is looking southwest. I am less sure of which streets, but I think coming up out of the lower left corner of the
left photo is Joplin Street. The home at upper right in the right photo might be on Lookout Drive. In any case, the
home is also in the next pic:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...t.jpg~original http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...f.jpg~original
LA Daily News/Islandora/UCLA -- http://lit250v.library.ucla.edu/isla...ailyNews%3A494 and http://lit250v.library.ucla.edu/isla...ailyNews%3A493

The house in the upper right corner of the right-hand photo above can be seen at left here:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...q.jpg~original
LA Daily News/Islandora/UCLA -- http://lit250v.library.ucla.edu/isla...ailyNews%3A126

Here is one last photo showing two women walking up . . . well, I'm not sure where. Could it be Lookout Drive?:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...f.jpg~original
LA Daily News/Islandora/UCLA -- http://lit250v.library.ucla.edu/isla...DailyNews%3A27

Here is a 1952 aerial of Lilac Terrace (with that same "dip" from the Baist Maps at right; the dip is Lookout Drive)
and Chavez Ravine Road (now Stadium Way). The Naval Armory is just about in the middle. I can't exactly
make out the brick chimney, but it's probably there:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...j.jpg~original
Historic Aerials -- http://www.historicaerials.com/


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