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FredH May 9, 2014 6:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6570516)
A trio of photographs from 1927.


the area today, minus the viaduct.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/843/1ayb.jpg
google_earth

Does anyone know when the viaduct was removed?
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ER - The L.A. Library has this photo dated 1962. According to them, the viaduct was considered an eyesore and was soon to be torn down.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps0561c03a.jpg
LAPL

Anyway, by 1972, it was gone.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps49e7098d.jpg
http://www.historicaerials.com/aeria...4207&year=2005

FredH May 9, 2014 7:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6570777)
Here's a photograph by a young amateur photographer.

Los Angeles, 1920s
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/842/6tz3.jpg
ITYL

Although it predate classic 'noir' by twenty years, I find it similarly mystifying.
I realize the clues are sparse, but I'd love to figure out where this was taken.



...and here's a second photograph by the same photographer (also from the 1920s).

-could it provide some additional clues?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/838/4ynb.jpg
ITYL

I picture this photographer hanging out along the railroad tracks just east of downtown.
(and west of the Los Angeles River)
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ER - I think you are right about the location. He was probably right around these three gas holders (they used
to be next to the 101 Freeway) and the railroad tracks.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps4dd1b5f4.jpg
http://www.historicaerials.com/aeria...4207&year=2005

HossC May 9, 2014 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6570516)

the area today, minus the viaduct.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/843/1ayb.jpg
google_earth

Does anyone know when the viaduct was removed?

I mentioned the viaduct when I posted pictures of the Pico & Rimpau Loop recently - it's just visible on the left of this aerial, although I can't see the smokestack.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...icoRimlau1.jpg
USC Digital Library

An article I found on pacificelectric.org dates the demolition of the viaduct to around January 1963. It contains the following quote:

"The job had been scheduled to take 8 weeks, but dragged on for more then 14 weeks. The bridge did not give up as easily as the contractor had thought it would."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...n.jpg~original
www.pacificelectric.org/Ralph Cantos


Previous posts on the viaduct:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=5381

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7534

HossC May 9, 2014 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido (Post 6570904)

Sorry, E_R, I don't know how to post a Google Maps picture on the thread. I checked your photo on Google Maps and I recognized the beautiful Andrew Brown Building which is still there (first on the right on the noirish photo) by its emergency stairs and the windows at the second floor. I recognized the next building too. The rest (particularly on the left) has changed. We are at Wall Street and 5th looking to 5th Street to the East.

Here's the StreetView image. Is it just me, or do the balloons take the noirish edge off the picture? :)

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AWallE5th2.jpg
GSV

For comparison, here's the image originally posted by e_r, although I've grayscaled it and tweaked the levels to try and bring out the detail.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AWallE5th1.jpg
eBay/original posted by e_r

GaylordWilshire May 9, 2014 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6570351)
:previous: -very interesting Alvarolegido. I've been trying to locate the same view today but I can't make out the cross street.

Evergreen Avenue and Malabar Street, East Los Angeles 1932
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102.../845/zqgsg.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/fu...pd/53754/rec/1
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Nearby at 2801 Wabash Avenue is the well-preserved Malabar Branch Library, built in 1927...

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics37/00038173.jpgLAPL


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_...2520AM.bmp.jpgGSV

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_...2520AM.bmp.jpgGSV
Where's my chainsaw?

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-n...2520AM.bmp.jpgGSV
Could the hanging lamp still be there?

ethereal_reality May 9, 2014 3:44 PM

:previous: I wasn't aware of the Malabar Branch Library GW. Thx for bringing it to my/our attention.


Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 6570979)
ER - I think you are right about the location. He was probably right around these three gas holders (they used
to be next to the 101 Freeway) and the railroad tracks.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps4dd1b5f4.jpg
http://www.historicaerials.com/aeria...4207&year=2005

Los Angeles 1920s
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/842/6tz3.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=21341

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/838/4ynb.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=21341

The two intriguing photographs were taken by 20 year old amateur photograph George Hodel.
(yes, that George Hodel...the Black Dahlia murder suspect)
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ethereal_reality May 9, 2014 4:05 PM

-not sure if we've seen this early pc on NLA. (worth a second look anyway)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/845/jq3l.jpg
ebay

This is the same building that housed the subterranean Dragon's Den. (seen in the classic noir 'Criss Cross')

earlier post here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=12112

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/836/q4yg.jpg

Compare the two arched windows and the two and a half basement windows with the earlier postcard.
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HossC May 9, 2014 4:37 PM

I can't find any previous mentions of the Wilcrest Apartment Hotel at 611-619 S Normandie Avenue. It's just north of Wilshire, and right next door to the Chateau La Martine mentioned recently by e_r (see here). The seller dates the postcard as 1940s.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AWilcrest1.jpg
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AWilcrest2.jpg
eBay

The sign outside now appears to say something like "Normandie Garden Apartments", but Googling that gives a different building. Have you still got that chainsaw handy, GW? ;)

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AWilcrest3.jpg
GSV

ethereal_reality May 9, 2014 7:29 PM

:previous: -beautiful postcard scan
I like that the 'concave' center entrance has survived. (we've discussed this apt. before, but like you HossC, I wasn't able to find an earlier post)


We've seen many photographs of the Hollywood Hotel over the years on NLA. Here's a photograph showing the aging hotel's
Highland Avenue side in 1952.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/841/lhov.jpg
ebay

-those first two cars need to turn into the nearest car wash.




Here's a similar view, also dated 1952. -originally posted by ChuckaLuck
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/836/q32m.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7998

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ethereal_reality May 9, 2014 7:46 PM

Shriner's Hospital, 3160 Geneva Street

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/842/vo92.jpg
ebay

ethereal_reality May 9, 2014 10:37 PM

I found this earlier this afternoon on ebay.

1920s
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102.../836/m5067.jpg

I'm struck by the unique building on the left. It doesn't appear to fit any one architectural style.
The bottom columns look as if they could have been inspired by Egyptian tombs, while the third floor with it's deeply recessed windows
looks almost bunker-like. All that said, the second floor is probably the most intriguing with it's hard to describe 'blocky' design.

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Flyingwedge May 9, 2014 10:47 PM

Tinker to Evers to _ _ _ _ _ _
 
Frank Leroy Chance, "The Peerless Leader," player-manager of the Chicago Cubs (1905-12) and manager of the Los Angeles Angels (1916-17), built the Frank L. Chance Building in Glendora (20 miles east of Pasadena) on the NE corner of Glendora Ave. and Foothill Blvd. (then Michigan and Minnehaha Avenues) in 1912. Chance and teammates Joe Tinker and Johnny Evers, immortalized in a bit of doggerel by Franklin P. Adams, were all inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1946.

c. 1912; note The Cub Grocery on the left and Cub Pharmacy on the right:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original
LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/00076/00076287.jpg

c. 1913:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...1.jpg~original
LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/00076/00076286.jpg

Chance died September 15, 1924, at Good Samaritan Hospital in Los Angeles; below is part of the LA Times article on his death the next day. The St. Maxon referred to in the article was at 653 S. Burlington, on the SW corner of Wilshire, where there is now a school.
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...2.jpg~original
LA Times

But the Frank L. Chance Building is still standing:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...3.jpg~original
GSV

ethereal_reality May 9, 2014 10:58 PM

:previous: Very interesting FW. That's a nice looking survivor.





this one turned up on ebay this afternoon as well.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/845/2oo7.jpg
ebay
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..and from the opposite direction.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/841/szwi.jpg
ebay

Andys May 9, 2014 11:04 PM

Stumbled across this: The Alex Theatre (Alex Film Society, it's a .org so I assume it's ok to post this) in Glendale, is running a film noir double feature July 26, 2014; "Gun Crazy" and "The Lineup." Here's the link, should the noir classics types be interested:

http://www.alextheatre.org/event/ale...razythe-lineup

Having gown up in Atwater (Village), I frequented the Alex Theatre (A historic landmark) as a kid/teen. If you've never been, it's worth the visit regardless of what's being screened.

Andys

ethereal_reality May 9, 2014 11:21 PM

crash!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/842/v7nz.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/841/eqb7.jpgebay

HossC May 9, 2014 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6571923)
I found this earlier this afternoon on ebay.

1920s
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102.../836/m5067.jpg

I'm struck by the unique building on the left. It doesn't appear to fit any one architectural style.
The bottom columns look as if they could have been inspired by Egyptian tombs, while the third floor with it's deeply recessed windows
looks almost bunker-like. All that said, the second floor is probably the most intriguing with it's hard to describe 'blocky' design.

The Merritt Building has caught your interest before. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5894417)

"The beautiful white marble Merritt Building." Broadway at 8th Street.

http://imageshack.us/a/img26/3033/papermer.jpg
ebay

The Merritt Building in 1957.

http://imageshack.us/a/img268/1750/a...tin1957usc.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...ner-m3091.html


so-cal-bear May 9, 2014 11:40 PM

Wowzers!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6571974)

This here is a good reply to this :P -----> http://youtu.be/FONN-0uoTHI

ethereal_reality May 9, 2014 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6571980)
The Merritt Building has caught your interest before. :)

lol. I didn't recognize it by seeing only the bottom three floors.
Here I thought I had discovered some architectural anomaly. ha

I looked again at that large photo of the Merritt Building. Were the rounded columns on the first floor still there at that point in time?
I don't see them, and the entire first floor looks much darker.

ethereal_reality May 10, 2014 12:00 AM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/838/qib6.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/843/k8n0.jpg

See what I mean. The first floor looks entirely different when compared to the 1920s photograph.
(of course this happens to a majority of vintage buildings)
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HossC May 10, 2014 12:30 AM

:previous:

Here's a better view of the Merritt Building's original look. There's some history of the building and its redesigns in an article I found on blogdowntown.com.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ttBuilding.jpg
LAPL


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