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HossC

Feb 16, 2018 2:30 PM

:previous:

No need to delete your post, Lorendoc. Here's the same section of the Harbor Freeway in 1960. The full image is square, and more than twice this size.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...0.jpg~original
mil.library.ucsb.edu
Flight ID: C-23870, Frame: 682, Date: May 2, 1960

As you say, the freeway is now considerably wider, and the pedestrian bridge is no longer there.

Krell58

Feb 16, 2018 3:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8087556)

'mystery' location

SANTA MONICA 1949

I haven't been able to figure out where the man with the camera is standing.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/kxhTEN.jpg
ssilberman / flickr

Does this grassy dell area look familiar to anyone? (it's no doubt filled with houses now :()

that said...the buildings in the distance are probably the best clues (the middle bldg reminds me somewhat of Cedar Sinai Hospital) -how I remember it from the 1980s

Would you like a closer look at the buildings?

OK then, here you go.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/ReQgry.jpg
detail

Any help?

I didn't think so.
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Found this 360° view from Inspiration Point on Google maps.
https://goo.gl/maps/roU9fPkyjC72
I believe it's the same.

Tourmaline

Feb 16, 2018 3:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8087745)

Here are a few photos of the Hollywood Legion Stadium:
(all from Hollywood Photographs, except the last one)

1926: One of thestreet blade signs looks like it says El Centro.
http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/HLS-001.jpg

1938:
http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/HLS-007.jpg

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/phot...02_stadium.jpg http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/phot...02_stadium.jpg

ethereal_reality

Feb 17, 2018 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8087739)

I can tell you that the plants in the foreground are young Nicotiana glauca. Does that count as help?

No? :(

YES, of course it does odinthor.
That grassy vale was a large part of the photograph.

Nicotiana glauca - commonly known as 'Tree Tobacco': Santa Monica Mountains Trails Council

but don't smoke it...it's POISONOUS

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/AHVPeT.jpg
detail / santa monica 1949

ethereal_reality

Feb 17, 2018 1:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krell58 (Post 8088015)

Found this 360° view from Inspiration Point on Google maps.
https://goo.gl/maps/roU9fPkyjC72
I believe it's the same.

I believe you're probably right Krell58. Thanks!

The man with the camera might have been standing on that smallish mound.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/aJrune.jpg
gsv

Do you see any Nicotiana glauca odinthor?

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ethereal_reality

Feb 17, 2018 1:32 AM

OK, after looking at the 1949 slide again I traipsed back up to Inspiration Point.

I think this slight concave dip matches the dip in the slide. [ignore my stickman....I jumped the gun]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/4secSX.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/HBHtiq.jpg

So he is standing in the same spot as the google-cameraman. [give or take a foot or two ;)]

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UphillDonkey

Feb 17, 2018 2:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 8088071)

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/phot...02_stadium.jpg http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/phot...02_stadium.jpg

This is now the LA Fitness Gym at 1620 N El Centro Ave in Hollywood.

ethereal_reality

Feb 17, 2018 3:15 AM

FREE transportation to and from the King Edward Hotel

Here's an interesting card I recently found on ebay.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/gZ866D.jpg
EBAY

reverse
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/XVSfzc.jpg

As a reminder, another King Edward Hotel business card included a map showing the various depots.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal reality

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/qojdFo.jpg

Reverse of card
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/wO7wyf.jpg

from an earlier post HERE

ethereal_reality

Feb 17, 2018 3:27 AM

:previous: The same ebay seller also has this business card.

1910s?
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/YBvr24.jpg
EBAY

for search purposes

Telephone 619 _______

The Rockingham
Chas. E. Banard, Prop.
S. E. Corner Commercial
and Los Angeles
Los Angeles, Cal.

Is anyone familar with The Rockingham? (I wasn't able to locate any past posts)

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ethereal_reality

Feb 17, 2018 4:50 AM

1962 Los Angeles Freeway

I've rotated the slide so south is at the top (as Lorendo described)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/giQGzw.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/6g1H1V.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8087780)

I'm gonna say this is the Harbor Freeway with SW at the top; the divided street with the turn pockets is Broadway a few blocks below its divide at 92th St.
The street that runs along the top edge of the photo is S Fig. The pedestrian bridge over the freeway is (was?) at 110th St. There have been considerable changes
in the road configuration along this stretch due to the construction of the 105 and the carpool lanes.

Thanks Lorendo and HossC.

I have a question guys:

Where is this 90 degree angle? [also shown above right]

South at top / 92nd Street at bottom]
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/PM8sn2.jpg
GSV

I know Lorendoc mentioned considerable changes...but this 90 degree turn is pretty extreme. (maybe I'm not even looking at the correct section of freeway) :shrug:

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odinthor

Feb 17, 2018 5:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8088856)

Sadly, it appears that someone smoked it all at some point, killing both plants and self. R.I.P.

(It's quite common in my neck of the woods, though!)

Lorendoc

Feb 17, 2018 7:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8089053)

1962 Los Angeles Freeway
I have a question guys:

Where is this 90 degree angle? [also shown above right]

South at top / 92nd Street at bottom]
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/PM8sn2.jpg
GSV

I know Lorendoc mentioned considerable changes...but this 90 degree turn is pretty extreme. (maybe I'm not even looking at the correct section of freeway) :shrug:

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The white lines on your photo are of surface streets, not connected to the freeway; they mark the block bounded by W 95th street, Grand Avenue, W 94th, and S Broadway.

Lorendoc

Feb 17, 2018 7:18 AM

Duplicate removed

HossC

Feb 17, 2018 12:44 PM

:previous:

Before the freeway, Grand Avenue and Flower Street both terminated near Exposition Park. They were then extended to run along each side of the freeway, but there just wasn't enough room for Grand between the freeway and Broadway below W 95th Street (even before the freeway was widened), so the right angle was formed. Interestingly, when the streets beside the freeway restart below Century Boulevard, the one on the west becomes S Grand and the one on the east becomes S Olive. The comparison below shows 1952 (pre-freeway) and 1963.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...t.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8089053)

I know Lorendoc mentioned considerable changes...but this 90 degree turn is pretty extreme. (maybe I'm not even looking at the correct section of freeway) :shrug:

I'm afraid that you're not looking at the correct section of freeway, e_r. Your 1962 aerial shows the area below (south of) Century Boulevard. This is about as near as I could get to duplicating the original image. Remember that we're looking south.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...n.jpg~original
eBay/Google Maps

Scott Charles

Feb 17, 2018 6:02 PM

I was going through some old family photos, and came across the picture below. I figured I might add it here to see if anyone knows anything about the business or its location. I’m new to the forum, so I’m still learning the rules about posting - if my picture doesn’t belong in this thread please let me know!

https://i.imgur.com/MBmtYZY.jpg

This restaurant was apparently owned by my great-grandmother. I do not know her first name, but Her name was Emma and our family name is Diltz. It was called the Auto Wheel Cafe, and she supposedly bought it some time in the 1920s.

There are six people in the photo, only four of which can be seen clearly. From left to right, my father’s cousin Bert, in the striped shirt; my uncle Jack, holding the dog; my grandpa Charlie, seated; and my father, Douglas, with his hands in his pocket.

Written on the back of the photo are the words “Alameda, CA” - but those words have been crossed out, and next to it has been written “Thousand Oaks, CA”. I’m not sure if either is correct, but my grandfather was a movie director and Bert’s dad was an actor and stuntman, so I’d assume the cafe must not have been too far away from Hollywood and the studios. I think my dad *may* have once told me it was in Woodland Hills or Tarzana. The Auto Wheel Cafe was in Thousand Oaks.

The back of the photo also says “1946”. I’m virtually certain that this is incorrect. Both my father and my uncle Jack served in WWII, and they look like kids in this photo. If I had to guess, I would say the photo is from around 1934-1937. Maybe someone here can recognize the year of the car in the photo?

I know it’s a crazy long-shot, but does the Auto Wheel Cafe ring any bells with anybody here?

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NOTE: I have edited the post above thanks to information provided by Lorendoc several posts down.

Lorendoc

Feb 17, 2018 7:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8089383)

This restaurant was apparently owned by my great-grandmother. I do not know her first name, but our family name is Diltz. It was called the Auto Wheel Cafe, and she supposedly bought it some time in the 1920s.

There are six people in the photo, only four of which can be seen clearly. From left to right, my father’s cousin Bert, in the striped shirt; my uncle Jack, holding the dog; my grandpa Charlie, seated; and my father, Douglas, with his hands in his pocket.

Written on the back of the photo are the words “Alameda, CA” - but those words have been crossed out, and next to it has been written “Thousand Oaks, CA”. I’m not sure if either is correct, but my grandfather was a movie director and Bert’s dad was an actor and stuntman, so I’d assume the cafe must not have been too far away from Hollywood and the studios. I think my dad *may* have once told me it was in Woodland Hills or Tarzana.

The back of the photo also says “1946”. I’m virtually certain that this is incorrect. Both my father and my uncle Jack served in WWII, and they look like kids in this photo. If I had to guess, I would say the photo is from around 1934-1937. Maybe someone here can recognize the year of the car in the photo?

I know it’s a crazy long-shot, but does the Auto Wheel Cafe ring any bells with anybody here?

They're in the 1930 census at 415 N Sweetzer and in the 1940 census at 709 Seward:

https://i.imgur.com/c8W9SsB.jpg
ancestry.com - 1930

https://i.imgur.com/yoA2l1f.jpg
ancestry.com -1940

A little more digging in the earlier censuses suggests that your ggf was named Budye (?) Diltz and he married an Emma Evertsen; this couple was in Thousand Oaks in the 1930 census, but his job was listed as a carpenter. Hope this helps, I really like the photo.

AlvaroLegido

Feb 17, 2018 8:05 PM

Diving deeper down LA

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChazFromCali (Post 8087756)

'ello!

Thank you so much for this thread. I found it and registered on the forum last April - spending several hours each night diving deeper down the Los Angeles rabbit-hole, lol. Very enjoyable and I've learned a lot about our fair city. It has a fascinating history. I think it took me four months to come up to the latest posts.

I was born in the Valley, in Canoga Park but grew up in NorCal. I did spend a year in Los Angeles in 1983-84 and a job related six months in 2011. When I came back in 2011 they had a subway!

My Mom has various Los Angeles pictures from back in the day (late 50's early 60's) when I was a tyke; I'm not sure if she'd want them on the Internet but I hope I can contribute even if it's in a small way.

I'm about ready to start over from the beginning of the thread and save my favorite pic's.

Cheers,
Chaz

Welcome to the thread Chaz and please don't wait to catch up to post your 1950s/1960s photos. We like personal material... if your mom agrees.

HossC

Feb 17, 2018 8:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trucker (Post 8080249)

Forgive me if this has been posted before..
This website has lots of photos...not hi res but interesting nonetheless.

Water and Power Associates

http://waterandpower.org/museum/Earl...+)_Page_1.html

Cheers,Pat

I forgot to comment on Trucker's post from a week ago. I'm certainly familiar with the Water and Power site, Pat, but it doesn't hurt to remind newcomers of some of the resources we use. The root page of photo archive is here:

waterandpower.org/museum/Digital Los Angeles History Museum.html

The pictures are categorized under 30 headings.

The site is constantly updated, and draws from a number of sources and photo libraries. There are even some images from NLA. Note that each picture has a source attribution in code (a selection of punctuation characters) in the description, e.g. the first image on page 1 of Early City Views says:

(ca. 1925)^ - View looking west to the Hall of Records and other nearby buildings. Constructed between 1909 and 1911 to the cost of over a million dollars, the 12-story original Hall of Records at 220 N. Broadway was demolished in September, 1973. Court Flight can be seen behind, on Broadway (center of photo).

I've highlighted the code above, which corresponds to "^ LA Public Library Image Archive" at the foot of the page (highlighting by me again). In some cases the original source has much higher resolution images, especially with sites like USC, so it's often worth going to the source.

Scott Charles

Feb 17, 2018 8:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8089442)

Thanks for the information, Lorendoc! I’m glad you like the photo.

I suspect the name you’re reading is BUDGE. That was my grandfather’s middle name (Charles B Diltz), I guess it got passed down to him from his father.

My father once told me that they lived on Sweetzer, but he did not remember the address. It’s great to actually find out where they lived! This is the first time I’ve heard of them living at Seward St! My grandmother, Elva, is listed in both of the above census reports; the third son, my uncle Dennis, appears in the 1940 edition. The fourth and final son, my uncle Gary, was not born until 1942, exactly 20 years after my father’s birth.

As to my GREAT grandparents, the fact that they lived in Thousand Oaks seems to confirm that the Auto Wheel Cafe was in Thousand Oaks, too. And my father’s first job was as a carpenter, perhaps he got the job from his grandfather.

Thanks so much for the information, Lorendoc! :banana:

ethereal_reality

Feb 17, 2018 11:18 PM

Auto Wheel Cafe, Thousands Oaks Calif.

This is now one of my favorite photographs on the thread. (reminds me of pics taken by WPA photographers. It's just sooooo great

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8089383)

[SIZE="3"]
https://i.imgur.com/MBmtYZY.jpg

There are six people in the photo, only four of which can be seen clearly. From left to right, my father’s cousin Bert, in the striped shirt;
my uncle Jack, holding the dog; my grandpa Charlie, seated; and my father, Douglas, with his hands in his pocket.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/qHxvb2.jpg
ancestry.com - 1930
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/VWJcoZ.jpg
ancestry.com -1940

A little more digging in the earlier censuses suggests that your ggf was named Budye (?) Diltz

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottCharles

:previous:
I suspect the name you’re reading is BUDGE. That was my grandfather’s middle name (Charles B Diltz),
I guess it got passed down to him from his father. And my father’s first job was as a carpenter,
perhaps he got the job from his grandfather.
______________________________________________________________________

Here's good ol' Budge listed in the 1920 city directory.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/1u0IlG.jpg
lapl

And there are many more Diltzs listed in the 1938 city directory.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/c6C47L.jpg
lapl

Do you recognize any of these additional Diltzs ScottCharles?
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Thanks again for posting your family photograph. (do you have any more? ;))
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