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HossC Oct 19, 2014 10:10 PM

I've labeled some of the buildings from the panorama. The Martz Flats have already been mentioned by e_r (see here for color pictures). Some of the information below is from the 1909 and 1911 CDs, and some is from the 1910 Baist map.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...d.jpg~original
Library of Congress

Here's a better look at the Hotel Baltimore in an image dated 1905-1907. The building behind it is labeled "Pellissier Block" on the Baist map, but the writing on the tower appears to say "Block Pellissier".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Baltimore1.jpg
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

USC have titled this image "Exterior view of the Los Angeles Athletic Club building on the corner of Seventh Street and Olive Street, ca.1911". To me, it looks like the Hotel Baltimore again. I think they based the title on the board at the side, because the Los Angeles Athletic Club didn't open until 1912. The Athletic Club had roughly double the footprint of the Hotel Baltimore, as can be seen on the 1914 Baist map. It's still there, and was mentioned recently in a post by e_r.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Baltimore2.jpg
USC Digital Library

ethereal_reality Oct 19, 2014 10:45 PM

:previous: You da man HossC! :)
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ethereal_reality Oct 19, 2014 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jg6544 (Post 6774459)


"The Calla Lilies are in Bloom again."
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/xJYgsb.jpg
screengrab / youtube

-and there's also this video.
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/110...d/calla-lilies


When I lived in L.A. I had a friend who would say "The Calla Lilies are in Bloom again" whenever there was a lull in a conversation.
It was really funny at the time. I'm not sure why it was so funny :), but it was.

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ethereal_reality Oct 19, 2014 11:33 PM

detail / 1909 pano
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/VEQAzL.jpg


This building between the Wilhelm Apartments on the left and the Hotel Francis on the right intrigues me.
I can't quite figure out what going on with the facade. It almost looks open-air with a grand outdoor staircase in the center.

ethereal_reality Oct 19, 2014 11:38 PM

Sam & Gene's Deli, 1330 East Eighth Street -Los Angeles

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/HOfmXo.jpg

back of the menu
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/fh4cEo.jpg
ebay


-the menu itself is kind of boring
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...908/swY2wd.jpg
ebay



The address is along a stretch of E. 8th Street that is closed off to the public (and the google-mobile) :(

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/wGCAu9.jpg
google_earth aerial

What does it take to block off a major street?

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Wig-Wag Oct 19, 2014 11:43 PM

[QUOTE=CityBoyDoug;

[URL=http://s919.photobucket.com/user/Devak_Ananda_Das/media/westmoore1957complb_zps5c514988.jpg.html]http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps5c514988.jpg[/URL]

Joni Mitchell was right. "They paved paradise and put up a parking lot".

Cheers,
Jack

Wig-Wag Oct 19, 2014 11:47 PM

Westmore 1957
 
[QUOTE=CityBoyDoug;

Joni Mitchell was right. "They paved paradise and put up a parking lot".

Cheers,
Jack

HossC Oct 19, 2014 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6774556)
detail / 1909 pano
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/VEQAzL.jpg

This building between the Wilhelm Apartments on the left and the Hotel Francis on the right intrigues me.
I can't quite figure out what going on with the facade. It almost looks open-air with a grand outdoor staircase in the center.

You're looking at the back of the building in the panorama. From the 1910 Baist map it appears to be 634 S Grand Avenue. The 1911 CD lists furnished rooms belonging to Mrs Mary Benson at that address, with several residents also listed.

ethereal_reality Oct 20, 2014 12:06 AM

:previous: Duh, that explains it. It's the back porch. I feel like a moron.
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ethereal_reality Oct 20, 2014 12:39 AM

I searched the various flood photographs on NLA, and I believe this is a new one.
(found earlier in the week on ebay)

"Flood waters swirling over the intersection of 6th and S. Los Angeles Street in this city."

3/5/38
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/631/XYOqrl.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/743/LOdnVJ.jpgebay

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CityBoyDoug Oct 20, 2014 12:43 AM

[QUOTE=Wig-Wag;6774563]
Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug;

[URL=http://s919.photobucket.com/user/Devak_Ananda_Das/media/westmoore1957complb_zps5c514988.jpg.html
http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps5c514988.jpg[/URL]

Joni Mitchell was right. "They paved paradise and put up a parking lot".

Cheers,
Jack


Here's the song you refer to, Jack...... Joni Mitchell Big Yellow Taxi ...youtube below.

http://youtu.be/xWwUJH70ubM

HossC Oct 20, 2014 1:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6774314)
I've seen footage of JFK landing in front of the Ambassador in a helicopter during the Democratic convention in 1960.

After a quick search, I found the video on YouTube (and it's in color!):

A Rare Look at John F. Kennedy

There's no helipad in the video - they land on a flat grassy area. The musical act being advertised is the Ames Brothers.

ethereal_reality Oct 20, 2014 1:55 AM

:previous: That video is great. Thanks HossC and Martin_Pal.
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Sexism in 1930's Los Angeles?

Watch the Girls...it says.
"All Women Cooks and Bakers at Thomas' Restaurants."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/ER1Jez.jpg
ebay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/913/MGwZSS.jpg
ebay

I'm unfamiliar with Thomas' Restaurants...and there were four of them!

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Joe Gillis Oct 20, 2014 6:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 6773168)
Does anyone have the details regarding the changes made to the Angels Flight station up on Olive Street?
Here are the basics that I know (or think I know).

When Angels Flight started about 1901, the Olive Street station was just a small shelter.
I think this may be it next to the Elks building.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...psddbcceff.jpg
LAPL


About 1910, this beautiful station was built. Here is a photo, which I believe Michael Ryerson
posted (sorry if it was someone else).

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps3f45c4d7.jpg



Here is where I start to get lost. By the early 1920's, the station was down to about one third of its size.
What happened? It appears in this photo that the bottom of some of the pillars were still in place.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps9844d6e7.jpg
LAPL


Then, maybe sometime in the 1930's or 1940's (again I don't know for sure), someone with absolutely no architectural
ability tacked on the ugly addition which remains to this day.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps28c49905.jpg
LAPL


Does anyone know what happened to the 1910 station and why was it never restored?





ER - Pretty ironic that the movie sphinx also got buried in sand and had to be discovered by archaeologists.

I'm gonna go with some kind of subsidence issue, look at the angle of the rear column stump in the 1920's shot, or even tree roots pushing up the foundations? you can see one in the background of the 1910's shot.

Hell even the 30's addition has a crooked slant on it

HossC Oct 20, 2014 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6774560)

Sam & Gene's Deli, 1330 East Eighth Street -Los Angeles

The address is along a stretch of E. 8th Street that is closed off to the public (and the google-mobile) :(

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/wGCAu9.jpg
google_earth aerial

What does it take to block off a major street?

I'm guessing that the street was closed when the warehouses/depots were added to the produce market (late '80s/early '90s?). It looks like 8th Street was still open in 1980, and intersected with several cross streets which are no longer there. This view also shows the Goodyear Service Station which BifRayRock posted about here (it's to the right of where I've labeled E Olympic Blvd).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8thCentral.jpg
Historic Aerials

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6774560)

I knew "Kreplach" from an episode of 'The Big Bang Theory' where the gang played Klingon Boggle, but I think they need to be circumspect about the definition of "Bris" ;).

Godzilla Oct 20, 2014 2:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5800899)
. . . My mother and Aunt Evelyn rode the street cars from Sunset and Silverlake Blvds everyday to work on these ungainly, but durable planes. Because of my mother's small stature (she was barely 5') she could fit in the tight quarters in the cockpit and wire the radios in.


Maybe they are both in this picture...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7247/7...22a02f03_o.jpg
lockheed_1940s_hollywood_way
wesclark.com

Looks like maybe the day shift is getting off and the swing shift is coming in...


Nice aerial shots of the Burbank factory, circa 1940. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8dTWfVpGMg

Noircitydame Oct 20, 2014 3:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6773085)
California archaeologists uncover 91 year old giant sphinx movie prop near Guadalupe CA.



1923
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/913/VibVZS.jpg
http://naturetime.wordpress.com/2012...-commandments/



-buried under the dunes for almost a century.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/905/K11nCc.jpg
google_earth


1923
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/DuXpfM.jpg
http://www.livescience.com/48329-pho...-sphinxes.html





The sphinx was one of 21 that lined the path to the Pharaoh's City in the 1923 Cecil B. DeMille silent movie.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/ykQmQJ.jpg
http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/201...old-movie-prop



unearthed!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...631/FpwSLN.jpg

-for more details go here:
http://www.livescience.com/48329-pho...-sphinxes.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/201...old-movie-prop

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I second FredH's comment about the irony in this story. Next thing we know, these arachaeologists will start dying off from a mysterious curse....

MichaelRyerson Oct 20, 2014 4:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 6773168)
Does anyone have the details regarding the changes made to the Angels Flight station up on Olive Street?
Here are the basics that I know (or think I know).


About 1910, this beautiful station was built. Here is a photo, which I believe Michael Ryerson
posted (sorry if it was someone else).

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps3f45c4d7.jpg

I'd like to take credit but it wasn't me (I don't think). Really nice shot, though.

oldstuff Oct 20, 2014 4:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 6775209)
I second FredH's comment about the irony in this story. Next thing we know, these arachaeologists will start dying off from a mysterious curse....

Ha!...They do have a nice little museum in Nipomo where you can see some of the things that were dug up from the dunes and pictures of the original set.

oldstuff Oct 20, 2014 4:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6775280)
I'd like to take credit but it wasn't me (I don't think). Really nice shot, though.

I walked by it twice today and wondered, does anyone know when they painted it that awful orange? It does look seasonal now with Halloween coming up, but... I understand it has been orange for a long time.


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