Here's a great photo I found on ebay of the Iris Theater 6508 Hollywood Boulevard. Be sure to PAN right---> :)


http://imageshack.us/a/img856/3469/a...heaterebay.jpg


below: Here's a description from http://cinematreasures.org/

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below: Notice the line of movie posters behind the car.

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below: The building also included the Iris Candy Shop.

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One last view.

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The redesigned Iris Theater by S. Charles Lee circa 1934

http://imageshack.us/a/img163/5687/aairis1934wmark.jpg
http://www.hollywoodphotographs.com/




below: The marquee is more elaborate than the one in the previous photo.

http://imageshack.us/a/img99/9843/aa...ematreasur.jpg
http://cinematreasures.org/

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The Iris Theater can be seen on the right. The marquee is different again, this time with the word Iris.
The roofline is now straight across (compare with the last two photos in the previous post).

http://imageshack.us/a/img571/8759/a...lywoodblvd.jpg
postcard ebay


below: The candy counter at the Iris Theater in 1946. Notice the beautiful Iris floral arrangement (and all that delicious popcorn!)

http://imageshack.us/a/img24/9616/aa...hollywood1.jpg
http://www.oscars.org/features/movie...rn-origin.html


The triptych like candy counter has side panels that close over the central candy area when not in use.
It also appears to be refrigerated, or at least climate controlled.


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I just found this beautiful 'noirish' photograph showing the Iris Theater.

http://imageshack.us/a/img844/8092/aairisnoir.jpg
http://cinematreasures.org/

A woman looking over the bath fixtures at May Co. Department Store, 8th and Broadway, July 1933.

http://imageshack.us/a/img853/6717/a...1933flickr.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ozfan22...ol-812035@N24/

Is this really the same building? It's the same address.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...FoxTheater.jpg

What's wrong with people? That was a beautiful facade. I wonder if there is anything salvageable behind the present one. Are we still making these same mistakes now?
I understand the driving need in the past to look "modern" and "progressive", "cutting edge" "prosperous" etc in order to draw well-heeled and maybe younger audiences. At some point that concept falls flat once a building loses it's soul.
Notice how the building was styled after classic ancient architecture to begin with. Now what is it? 50's Kitsch. I suppose there's a certain charm in that too....

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...TD/MTLOWE3.jpg http://viewlinerltd.blogspot.com/201...e-railway.html

Mt Lowe has come up again. I highly recommend making the hike to the top. There's a good switch-back hiking trail to the top beginning at the end of Lake St in Altadena plus a stupid-easy fire road to the top beginning in Millard Canyon which if continued up the mountain takes you along the old railway bed (fire road now) all the way to where the Alpine Tavern was up on Mt Lowe. Some tell-tale foundations still remain there as well. There's still plenty of magic in that place. It's a step back in time for sure.
I lived in Sierra Madre for a couple of years and became quite obsessed with San Gabriel Mountain history and lore even to the point of sluicing about 1/2 oz of gold out of the East Fork river over many, many outings. I don't recommend it for profit.

I once hiked straight up the side of the mountain out of Rubio Canyon that was once the path of Echo Mountain's funicular shown in the 1st photo. There's still some concrete footings for the platform in the bottom of the canyon but they're crumbling fast. It was tough, it was steep and there was no trail getting to the top.
I did find some artifacts, railroad spikes etc along the way.
The most interesting and most disturbing (in hindsight) artifact I found was a small, deflated common helium balloon with a note attached to it requesting the finder to please contact some local school's 5th grade class and declare it's location. At that time I was going through some really difficult personal stuff and I never followed up and quickly lost the note. I wall always regret that loss of a perfect teaching opportunity.

Here's a Google snap of the incline now. I hope you can make out the resemblance.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...oMtIncline.jpg

[QUOTE=rbpjr;5683040]

Sorry my posts failed to satisfy your standards. Equally unaware that my keyboard somehow prevented others from posting on your board.

Do all posts require your prior approval, or only weekend posts?

Have a wonderful day.

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The Barney's discussion brought to mind many stories of the area first known as the town of "Sherman." I am also reminded of a business once known as Bailey's and later J.Sloan's that functioned for 83 years on Melrose not that far from Barney's. Because it had opened in 1919, it was exempted from many local Ordinances.*

Haven't noticed this picture posted here, it is a ca. '31, shot of Santa Monica Blvd. and the Sherman area, which probably contains both Barney's and the business formerly known as J.Sloans. In the vicinity of the train yard would be the Pacific Design Center and related structures. (Too bad it doesn't include La Cienega's middle-of-the-road oil derrick.)

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-14478?v=hrhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1692515_n.jpghttp://www.facebook.com http://www.lampsplus.com/info-center...er_5F00_01.jpg http://www.google.com

Another shot of the Rexall Drug Store, Beverly and La Cienega ca. ~ '47http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QPpPMDzig8...lyshopping.jpg http://pleasantfamilyshopping.blogspot.com/


*"J. Sloans was exempt from the normal requirement of 25 parking spaces for a bar where dancing is permitted. But then, J. Sloans was exempt from plenty of restrictions placed on other bars.

"Because it opened in 1919 and predated the Alcoholic Beverage [Control Board], it was grandfathered in," Galindo explained Friday as he sat at a table in the bar and accepted condolences from a steady stream of customers.

"It's the only license of its kind in Los Angeles. I can sell beer to go. I can have naked bartenders. I don't, of course. But I can do things that other bars can't, if I want to."

J. Sloans had an outlaw image when it opened. Prohibition was looming, so its first owner picked a spot well outside what were then Los Angeles city limits, figuring authorities wouldn't bother enforcing the national ban on alcoholic beverages there." http://articles.latimes.com/2002/mar...al/me-oldbar30

http://imageshack.us/a/img829/69/aairisdetail2bs1.jpg

Sadly, you're correct fhammon....this is the same building (kinda hurts doesn't it).

http://imageshack.us/a/img837/4143/a...badzoflick.jpg
http://cinematreasures.org/




http://imageshack.us/a/img96/5869/aa...matreasure.jpg
http://cinematreasures.org/






below: I believe this area (this design is tasteful, unlike the tacked on facade) has now changed as well.

http://imageshack.us/a/img339/6858/a...anceareact.jpg
http://cinematreasures.org/




This is the theater where x-rated 'Fritz the Cat' played for 10 years!!

http://imageshack.us/a/img834/1876/a...zctreasure.jpg
http://cinematreasures.org/

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In the picture of WeHo, what was that rail yard? It looks like it might have been a passenger depot of some kind or other.

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Sorry my posts failed to satisfy your standards. Equally unaware that my keyboard somehow prevented others from posting on your board.

Do all posts require your prior approval, or only weekend posts?

Have a wonderful day.

Bif...I apologize for my remarks about your large posts...was having a bad day...Oh, not sure what kind of keyboard you have but I'm sure it does not prevent others from posting...I'm not sure where you thought that posts need prior approval...and you have a wonderful day as well.

It also includes my old bungalow on Hancock Ave. :) (circled in red)


http://imageshack.us/a/img571/2721/aawehomybungalow.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...ller/index.htm

http://imageshack.us/a/img585/1451/aaperailsherman.jpg
http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_fo...came-weho.html



http://imageshack.us/a/img193/6863/aaper1gogo.jpg
http://gogonotes.blogspot.com/2008/1...wood-site.html



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http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_fo...came-weho.html

Bif
 

It seems you went back and deleted all your old posts. Please don't allow a jackass with no manners to ruin a great thread. We appreciate everything people put in, regardless of what rbpjr says. Personally, I'm thrilled when I see there's three or four new pages since the last time I checked. Keep up the great work people! I'm still working on my 3D model of L.A. with a time slider to show the great old buildings in their original environment and you all are a great resource. Bif, could you please put back all your deleted posts?

Quoted for truth.


Great project! What's the time span going to be? How far back? What area? Downtown?
I have a personal obsession with L.A. from 1850 - 1890

I'm a big fan of the books by Harris Newmark and Horace Bell
I wish somebody would make a movie or TV series about Los Angeles in the mid to late 1800s.
It was a lot more interesting and often a lot more dangerous than Deadwood ever was.

Thanks, E_R.

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Some of those cars in front of the Iris reminded me that Fords were apparently built in Los Angeles. ;) Which models and over what timespan, I do not know.

I have searched this thread, without success, for any posts concerning the Ford plant in Los Angeles and the Ford Plant built in the Wilmington/Long Beach area circa 1930. (If posts or pictures exist, sorry if I missed them.) Can anyone shed some light (or even dark pictures) on the exact location of the Los Angeles assembly location? http://www.californiahistorian.com/a...Tour%20B&W.jpg
TIA

http://imageshack.us/a/img856/3469/a...heaterebay.jpg

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/257047/265483.jpg
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http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/257047/265492.jpg
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/257047/265840.jpghttp://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages...tml?1328825476

I have enjoyed looking at the terrific photos on this thread and have noticed the following colorized versions. Not always, but in some instances, the colorized versions add a new dimension to an otherwise flat photo. Just wish they were bigger.

http://www.californiahistorian.com/p...arketplace.jpghttp://www.californiahistorian.com/p...hotos-la2.html
http://www.californiahistorian.com/p.../oil-field.jpghttp://www.californiahistorian.com/p...hotos-la3.html
http://www.californiahistorian.com/p...els-flight.jpghttp://www.californiahistorian.com/p...otos-la10.html
http://www.californiahistorian.com/p...mple-block.jpghttp://www.californiahistorian.com/p...hotos-la9.html

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Some FoMoCo plant info is here.

Thank you Gaylord Wilshire. I am embarrassed that I did not find your posts on the subject. :blush: Probably due to my choice of search terms.

Since Mr. Ford did not start producing his ModelT until 1908, one would assume the "early" 12th and Olive facility had a smaller footprint than the one you pictured on Santa Fe and 7th. Do you know the exact function of the Santa Fe facility? In other words, did it produce specific parts, or was it a warehouse, or was it used to assemble a final product? Thank you again, not just for answering my question, but for all of your other insightful posts!

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/f...y20Big20-2.jpghttp://media.photobucket.com/


Unknown location and date:
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La 4d
 

I'm going back as far as Photography will take me. Once we built the Pico House, we could then extrapolate other buildings photographed with it and then once we built those, worked our way out. As of right now, I'm working on downtown, Pershing Square, bunker hill. The places that have really changed over the years.

If I can find the money, eventually, I'd like to do the entire city at least as far back as 1900. Just imagine LA Noir, but you have a time slider in your car (or on your watch) and as you drive around, you can see what is there now or what was earlier.

Eventually, I want to populate the different eras with period cars and fashions. Plus, I want to have a button that makes foliage disappear so we can actually see some of these places today.

Anyway, it's years and huge$$$ until I can get it done but it is my dream! And this thread feeds it every day.

Chuckaluck: Don't be embarrassed--the search tool here is pretty clumsy. I only found that old post of mine by searching my own name.

As far as I understand it, the first downtown plants assembled parts shipped from the east; so did the succeeding 7th & Santa Fe plant until it was expanded in the early '20s to also produce whole bodies for both L.A. & S.F. assemblies, which I think included stamping.

"Old" Ascot Park? "About 63rd Street, East side Los Angeles?" (May be marked early 1900's, but based on the cars and cameras, more likely late teens, if not later.)

http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/tf4199n9w2/hi-res http://sunsite.berkeley.edu

"Barney Oldfield races his front-drive Christie against a Curtis bi-plane at the old Ascot track (1913)"
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics28/00048898.jpghttp://jpg2.lapl.org/pics28/00048898.jpg

Pardon me if this is a replication, but IMHO it is worthy of multiple viewings!

http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/tf7h4nb61n/hi-res

http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0006073A.jpg

Glad you like them, and I agree that the black and whites best hit the noirish sweet spot......it's been a blast driving around looking for pics. Anway here's another batch, this time in the pouring rain:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7048/6...cabd967e_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8015/6...50a90dfe_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7255/6...4b2a9e3c_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7206/7...6a1ab3fb_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7139/7...2bf18f47_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7075/6...288f5537_b.jpg

After all that sleuthing, it was time to get a bite:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7237/7...48a75f05_b.jpg

And some end-of-day entertainment:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7186/6...f66cbc55_b.jpg

Some of these images fit right in with the Hotel Nadeau. Source indicates Los Angeles (S. W. corner of 1st and Los Angeles Sts.), but the Ghirardelli's sign gives me pause. "L.M. Railsback Co." graphics seem very progressive but so does a Kerosene Tractor.

http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/tf387009bw/hi-reshttp://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0027650A.jpg

Wash produce carefully. Grocery near Clara Street? (Near Union Station?) (http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8...ed=0CB8Q8gEwAA)
http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/tf7199p5fs/hi-reshttp://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/...and=calisphere



Bacon, Lard and . . . Bubonic Plague, what a combo!

http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/tf5489p33p/hi-reshttp://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0027122A.jpg

136 San Pedro Street? Never know what was allegedly found there!

http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/tf8p3011vd/hi-reshttp://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0027111A.jpg

"Rear S. W. corner of 1st and Los Angeles Sts."

http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/tf8779p5z5/hi-reshttp://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0027651A.jpg

Is this really LA's first street car, with "Monrovia" markings?

http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/tf0580051q/hi-res http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0006063A.jpg

Spring and 1st, 1886?

http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/tf3q2nb3z7/hi-reshttp://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0006071A.jpg

First Electric Car on Pico Sreet 1887 C.C. Pierce? Could this be the reason Honda had a Pico Blvd Office, thinking ahead for a Hybrid?
http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/tf7m3nb5h2/hi-reshttp://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0006079A.jpg

Love this tractor/locomotive. Express train (of its day) from San Fernando Valley? The size of the tractor suggests it was not particularly fast and capable of pulling long distances - except for downhill - but it sure looks "special." "Los Angeles Special from San Fernando Valley ca 1886"
http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/tf5x0nb5dv/hi-res
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingA.../I0006080A.jpg

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Looks like the Griffith Park pool is still there, just off of the northbound onramp from Los Feliz Blvd. to the 5.

When did this stretch of concrete and asphalt cease to be called the Cahuenga Freeway?
Postcard appears to be from late '40s early '50s
http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/...6/d3e10027.jpghttp://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt3k4031c6/?order=1

I can't tell you all how pleased I am that the thread is still alive & kicking. I was an avid follower in 2009 & 2010, and even submitted a few posts. Then I had to start working in the office, so there went my fun! :P

Now I'm back home temporarily, so historic L.A., here I come!

BTW, love the photo above of Wilshire & Detroit. I used to live at Wilshire & Cochran (2 blocks west), in a 2-story Moderne building that is still there. I'm proud to say that my unit was the only one remaining with its original Murphy bed. :D

Chuckaluck: I don't want you to think we're ignoring the photos you posted.
You see, I posted the bubonic plague photographs back in June 2010.

That said, I think it's great that you're posting them...the subject matter is still fascinating and many 'newcomers'
here are unaware of posts that are nearly two years old! I have to admit I enjoyed seeing the photos again. :)
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below: The following 'bubonic plague' photographs are before/afters.
The first shows a lunch room at 450 Gladis Ave. 'before' the clean-up, and the second is 'after' the clean up.
The entire building is gone! This happened all across the poorer areas of L.A.

It's interesting to compare the two.

Sounds uncomfortable.

http://you-are-here.com/modern/cochran.jpghttp://you-are-here.com/modern/cochran.html

Welcome back Johnny S! We missed you.

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Not a problem. Thank YOU for understanding. Short of having a photographic memory and excellent search skills (I have neither), duplication is bound to happen.

Strangely enough, the photos do not look particularly pestiferous. The Lunch Room @ 450 could use for a spot of paint and a new table cloth or two, but the price is right. A hot shower seems like a good idea right now.

Muahaha my evil plan to get people to buy the game is working! Total world domination is close at hand!

....but seriously, I hope you enjoy it as much as I have.

Not a bad guess, but the game has it listed as a Delage D8 S Poutout, made over in France in the late '30s. And for what it's worth, it's my favorite car in the game...voluptuous looks, good speed and silky smooth handling.

http://www.linternaute.com/auto/maga...lin-226942.jpg



And as an aside, I just want to thank ethereal reality, gaylord wilshire and everyone else who have kept this thread going strong for so long now. It's without a doubt my most favorite thread on the entire internet. Cheers!

so a few weeks back we were talking about recording studios,then it went to cher ,then it went to gold star studios.i found this script book of my dads,dont want to make it a subject since its not noirish at all,but just wanted to toss in my 2 cents.

[IMG]http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...ihikid/new.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...kid/new002.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...kid/new001.jpg[/IMG]

Is this too redundant? Or is it interesting all over again? -be honest. (I added a few new comments and questions to the original post)
Thank you 'Chuckaluck' for renewing my interest in the bubonic plague photos.



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A 'makeshift' road undulating it's way out to San Bernardino. What happens if you meet another car!?!

http://imageshack.us/a/img225/2589/1...droadsanbe.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/

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I'm out of town but still watching the thread, and was really blown away by all the hi-res postcard images you posted. Was sitting in my Columbus, Ohio hotel room saying "Wow!" to the walls as I scrolled through them. Nice. I tried to get a Google Street View of the above scene but it looks like that section of Mulholland was realigned, and as usual all the homes, walls, and trees now block 90% of the views.

I'll have to go back and check the source where you found these. Is there much more good stuff on that site?

And I noticed that e_r has been posting images from a Library Of Congress site. Sounds like that might be another good source, will have to check that out too.

Loads of great material here lately! Sometimes this thread moves so fast, it's hard to respond to everything of interest, everything that I might like to. But thanks, and keep up the good work everyone.

An excellent question! Perhaps cars were allowed to go in one direction in the morning, and the other in the evening. ;)

You've got me convinced to get it too. Question, though, can you really just wander through the game without playing? Won't someone shoot you sooner or later and spoil the fun??

And I'd like to second your thanks to the guys who've been driving this thread. I've been learning tons of interesting and valuable information every day when I visit, so I really, really appreciate it. :)