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ethereal_reality Apr 18, 2019 5:49 PM

:previous: Good eye fnarf!



Thanks for the help on the mystery' locations, HossC and FredH. ....ha ha ..very funny badrunner and Martin Pal. :D

So we're still searching for the location of the pig pic., right? (#2)






Here's another 'mystery' street.

ORIGINAL SLIDE SL80 ☆ 1962[ LOS ANGELES STREET SCENE CARS BILLBOARD 889A.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/TmSdVh.jpg
EBAY / 1962

Anyone care to wager a guess?


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ethereal_reality Apr 18, 2019 6:22 PM

One more mystery for this fine afternoon.


"Original Snapshot - Los Angeles Ca 1920's L.A. Restaurant & Autos."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Rd5TJj.jpg
EBAY

I briefly thought this might be Mexico...


until I noticed the blade sign.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/UYmdcV.jpg
DETAIL / WALLACE CHINA BLADE SIGN






I found a couple of addresses...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/Qi5p9T.jpg
LAPL


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/MhKEr6.jpg
LAPL

...but I haven't been able to piece it all together. :shrug:




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HossC Apr 18, 2019 8:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8545049)

Here's another 'mystery' street.

ORIGINAL SLIDE SL80 ☆ 1962[ LOS ANGELES STREET SCENE CARS BILLBOARD 889A.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/TmSdVh.jpg
EBAY / 1962

Anyone care to wager a guess?

It looks like the Hollywood Dance Center is still in business at 817 N Highland Avenue. The other buildings are still there too, although I had to go back to 2011 to get a relatively tree-free view.

https://oi809.photobucket.com/albums...ighlandAv1.jpg
GSV

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 8544002)

You beat me to it (HossC is just too good)

It was literally by seconds! I thought I'd start with the last ones and work backwards, but you obviously did the same :).

Tehmeh Apr 19, 2019 2:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnarf (Post 8545035)
Yes, I am more than seven years behind in Noirish Los Angeles, but can date this great newstand photo. That's the October 1939 issue of Daring Detective in the bottom center, as I discovered on this great repository of classic pulp covers:
https://pulpcovers.com/wp-content/up...39-600x786.jpgpulpcovers.com

Also visible in the left window: Early DC issues of Detective Comics (early appearance of Batman), All-American Comics, Mutt & Jeff, Movie Comics...all minty fresh!!!

FredH Apr 19, 2019 2:40 AM


Anyone notice how desolate it is around this Tamale place? Doesn't seem to be anything else around for miles. the front of the building seems to say: N.W. Lane. :shrug:


I know one thing...if I tossed down a malted milk and a couple hot tamale pies, there better be a bathroom in the vicinity. :hell::runaway:



On further review, I found that the place still exists at 6418 Whittier Blvd. in East L.A.

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums...le%20place.png
Google Street View

Civilization has moved in.

FredH Apr 19, 2019 5:19 AM

I may have posted this photo years ago, but it's in color and pretty neat...so what the heck.

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums...tleTokyo-3.jpg
Earl Witscher, Modernage Photo

We are looking at Little Tokyo and the Civic Center. Notice the color contrast. Little Tokyo had a lot of red brick buildings and the City Hall buildings were lighter concrete.

If you scroll all the way to the right, you see Central Avenue going up from the bottom of the photo. The street going left to right is East Third Street. Way over on the top right is Alameda.

I am not sure about the date of the photo, but it has to be prior to the 1971 earthquake. Many of the buildings along Third Street were destroyed or heavily damaged in the quake.

CaliNative Apr 19, 2019 9:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 8545904)
I may have posted this photo years ago, but it's in color and pretty neat...so what the heck.

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums...tleTokyo-3.jpg
Earl Witscher, Modernage Photo

We are looking at Little Tokyo and the Civic Center. Notice the color contrast. Little Tokyo had a lot of red brick buildings and the City Hall buildings were lighter concrete.

If you scroll all the way to the right, you see Central Avenue going up from the bottom of the photo. The street going left to right is East Third Street. Way over on the top right is Alameda.

I am not sure about the date of the photo, but it has to be prior to the 1971 earthquake. Many of the buildings along Third Street were destroyed or heavily damaged in the quake.

Yes indeed--pre 1971. The turreted castle-like old Hall of Records building (one of my favorite old L.A. buildings no longer there) across from City Hall at an angle would have been torn down by 1971/72. The new Superior Court Building which was built next to it was also built by 1971/72, but isn't even under construction in the pic. I'm not sure, but I believe City Hall East would have been under construction by 1971, but the photo show just a parking lot and small buildings where it is. My guess would be the pic is 1967-1970.

CaliNative Apr 19, 2019 9:29 AM

https://waterandpower.org/D%20Histor...The_Tamale.jpg
Programmatic Architecture
Los Angeles Historical Photos[/QUOTE]

Two tough looking flappers in the rumble seat. One of the menu items on the building is "Spanish Delight". What is that? A relative to Turkish Delight?

odinthor Apr 19, 2019 12:31 PM

:previous:

https://i.postimg.cc/VvtJRRwG/3-1-33.jpg
LA Times March 1, 1933, via ProQuest via CSULB Library

--in which you get not only Spanish Delight, but also "Angelina, the decorous Spitz dog."

EDIT ADD:

https://i.postimg.cc/7YT3pRMV/angelina1-29-33.jpg
LA Times January 29, 1933, via ProQuest via CSULB Library

https://i.postimg.cc/pT6jSQm4/angelina2-9-36.jpg
LA Times February 9, 1936, via ProQuest via CSULB Library

Martin Pal Apr 19, 2019 5:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnarf (Post 8545035)
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5402862)
News Stand... Los Angeles.
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/7...ybodiebail.jpg
lapl or usc

Yes, I am more than seven years behind in Noirish Los Angeles, but can date this great newstand photo. That's the October 1939 issue of Daring Detective in the bottom center, as I discovered on this great repository of classic pulp covers:


I love photos with newsstands in them. When they're contemporary we hardly notice them. When they're in period photos they stand out because they can be so time specific.

I was recently trying to find an old commercial on youtube, but not having any luck because I don't remember what the product was it was selling. (I have an idea, but don't want to influence anyone else's memory.)

I think it was from the 90's, but it could've been 80's. The commercial is set at a newsstand and the camera is the POV of the clerk inside the newsstand, with the stand opening framing the TV screen, with magazines and papers around it. In the commercial, people come up to the newsstand from a certain time period and then we cut to a new time period with different people a few more times. (I guess the idea was to show the product has been popular for so long?)

Anyone remember this in any way?

sopas ej Apr 19, 2019 7:35 PM



I'm wondering how women climbed into and out of those rumble seats back then, considering the skirts they wore during that period. Did they give everyone a free show?

FredH Apr 19, 2019 9:45 PM

Recently, I watched one of the Lost L.A. shows produced by KCET. This one was Lost-L.A.-Hills. Featured on the show was Gordon Pattison.

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums...Capture1_4.png
KCET.org/shows/lost-LA-hills

He grew up in The Castle...

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums...y/Capture2.png
KCET.org/shows/lost-LA-hills

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums...y/Capture3.png
KCET.org/shows/lost-LA-hills

...and lived there until 1964. His family owned both The Castle and The Saltbox.

At one point in the show, he traveled to the original site of The Castle, which is now the Wells Fargo building food court.

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums.../Capture_3.png
KCET.org/shows/lost-LA-hills

The interesting thing was that, although this was the original site of the house, it would have been located five or six stories above where he was standing.
That is how much of the hill had been shaved off.

If you look at these comparison photos Beaudry posted recently, you can visualize how high the old Castle stood on the hill, compared to the modern buildings.

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums...d%20street.png

59imperial Apr 20, 2019 2:07 AM

I think it says N.W. Lane Prop.(proprietor) on the tamale building.

ethereal_reality Apr 20, 2019 4:50 AM

'mystery' location SOLVED.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/HSSWeG.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8545350)
It looks like the Hollywood Dance Center is still in business at 817 N Highland Avenue. The other buildings are still there too, although I had to go back to 2011
to get a relatively tree-free view.

GSV

Thanks for figuring out the location Hoss (and FredH).

At first, I didn't understand why you said the "Hollywood Dance Center is still in business"

That is, until....I zeroed in on the white sign about the woman.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/3rYrUO.jpg
DETAIL


You must have a good pair of peepers, Hoss.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/6Ao6Hx.jpg

So what do you think the large letters on the building spell out? All I can think of is...PETCO. (it's not)

hmmm...& why do the first two letters appear to 'bleed' over the streetlight? -optical illusion :shrug:






Here's a glimpse inside the second story of the Hollywood Dance Center. (middle building, I presume)

It looks rather 'old school'.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/s3cJZr.jpg
YELP




https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/dhXzIg.jpg
YELP I smell feet and moth balls.



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Martin Pal Apr 20, 2019 5:19 AM

PBS's AMERICAN MASTERS series has an 83 minute documentary premiering tonight titled: "Garry Winogrand: All Things are Photographable."

Remember this photograph that E_R first posted in January, 2017, and the NLA sleuths discovered exactly where it was taken...in Los Angeles.

The photograph appears within the first ten minutes of the film. I do wish they'd mentioned where it was taken because so many sources have it labeled as New York, as E_R first noted in his post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7668482)
'mystery' location / mislabeled photograph?

The recent discussion on sailors made me think of this noirish photograph I happen upon a couple months ago.

It's attributed to the famous street photographer Garry Wynogrand [1950]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/yPAnia.jpg
https://artblart.files.wordpress.com...32-008-web.jpg

Even though it's shrouded in fog, I believe the building in the far distance is the Post Office Terminal Annex down by Union Station.

But the majority of websites place the location as New York.

[...]


_________________________________________________________________


I discovered this program flipping through channels and didn't have time to view it, so I'll have to go back to watch it at some point. The brief few minutes I watched near the beginning also had film or video of Winogrand shooting photos on Hollywood Blvd. PBS often airs their programs more than once, or streams on PBS station affiliated websites. A short description online says that in the film there are several photographic sequences set to music.

ethereal_reality Apr 20, 2019 5:25 AM

Is this Los Angeles?

"Unusual 1920 Middle Street View 3 Automobiles Bicycle 2 Riders Danger Hand Work"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/xecyBl.jpg

The ebay seller doesn't know the location of this horribly cropped photograph...

and there's no information on the reverse.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/Hiv3zB.jpg
EBAY front and back

but I believe the large building down the street might be the Shrine Auditorium.





Let's take a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/SEtRiH.jpg
EBAY

What do you all think...is that the Shrine?


That man swerving to avoid the boys on the bicycle has turned white as a ghost.


By the way...

The seller is asking $225.00 for the photo.

GAZOOKS! :eek:

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acorn8332 Apr 20, 2019 6:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8546820)
'mystery' location SOLVED.


You must have a good pair of peepers, Hoss.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/6Ao6Hx.jpg

So what do you think the large letters on the building spell out? All I can think of is...PETCO. (it's not)

hmmm...& why do the first two letters appear to 'bleed' over the streetlight? -optical illusion :shrug:



Those old Marbelite twins are pretty fragile, and it's not uncommon to see the liberal application of black electrical tape to keep the street lights in one piece. That might explain the "bleed" of the black letters.

I wish the sun had been a little more cooperative, but note the electrical tape around the base of the left luminaire, and the left arm of the candelabrum on this twin Marbelite that can be found on San Vicente Blvd. in Brentwood.



https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1e2e457e_c.jpg


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1e2e457e_c.jpg

My photo: 04-17-15

HossC Apr 20, 2019 7:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8546820)

You must have a good pair of peepers, Hoss.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/6Ao6Hx.jpg

So what do you think the large letters on the building spell out? All I can think of is...PETCO. (it's not)

Although it ends in "CO", I'd ruled out the Ashco Electronic Supply. It appears in several CDs at 823 N Highland Avenue, but that's the building next door and the letters don't fit. A little more digging found Rico Products at 819 N Highland during the 1960s. No description is given, but earlier CDs list a company with the same name (but different addresses) under musical instrument manufacturers.

ethereal_reality Apr 20, 2019 8:29 PM

acorn8332, I think you're probably right about black masking tape. that's about the only thing that could explain the visual anomaly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by acorn8332 (Post 8546850)
Note the electrical tape around the base of the left luminaire.

Did you mean to say the right luminaire? The left one appears to have less tape. (or am I seeing thing...again)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC
A little more digging found Rico Products at 819 N Highland during the 1960s.

Thanks again Hoss. :)

Rico Products makes reeds for clarinets and other woodwind instruments.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/gjUPiy.jpg
REVERB




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FredH Apr 20, 2019 9:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8546838)
Is this Los Angeles?

"Unusual 1920 Middle Street View 3 Automobiles Bicycle 2 Riders Danger Hand Work"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/xecyBl.jpg

The ebay seller doesn't know the location of this horribly cropped photograph...

and there's no information on the reverse.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/Hiv3zB.jpg
EBAY front and back

but I believe the large building down the street might be the Shrine Auditorium.





Let's take a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/SEtRiH.jpg
EBAY

What do you all think...is that the Shrine?


That man swerving to avoid the boys on the bicycle has turned white as a ghost.


By the way...

The seller is asking $225.00 for the photo.

GAZOOKS! :eek:

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I think you are right on this one E.R.

This is the intersection of Jefferson and Hoover. That is the Shrine Auditorium down the street.

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums...ley/shrine.png
Google Street View


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