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http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics01/00020217.jpg http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8273 Mr. Kosloff produced the '51 noir movie, "The Hoodlum." It features several LA exteriors that has been discussed in this thread. Viewable here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGR3yAh3XIc http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...he_Hoodlum.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...he_Hoodlum.jpg |
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If I were to read a book or article or website about the BD case, does anyone have a recommendation on what would be the best one? I am not a student of the case nor have I ever read much about it. My information has come in bits and pieces over the years because of its notoriety. I'd be interested in something that is perhaps viewed as the most objective research on the case, if there is such a thing. It's my perception that there is a lot of stuff out there of the salacious or speculative or biased variety that muddles the issue. Was there ever a decent documentary produced about this case? Many posts on NLA refer to other crimes of similar nature in the late '40's and one poster said something like "it seems clear there was a serial killer on the loose" at that time. I wondered if the police back then thought about this, that many of these similar crimes were the work of one person or wasn't it brought up or considered? Thanks for any suggestions any of you might have. |
I'm really impressed with the time and effort you put into your post on the Baldwin Hills Oil House Flyingwedge.
It was a great read! Kudos to you. This is probably a stupid question, but what kind of security is set up for the area? Is there at least a fence around the perimeter of the property? originally posted by Flyingwedge http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/835/dkwq.jpg I can easily imagine nefarious activities taking place under the cover of darkness. No people, no street lights, loose gravel= body dump __ That said, I hadn't noticed the detached garage before. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/826/bquf.jpg http://baldwinhillsoilhouse.com/ __ I was shocked by the rude response you got from Ms. Gosnell. She was probably leery, perhaps thinking you were researching to have the house landmarked. Again, great work FW. |
This is the best image I've seen of the Chutes Theater at Chutes Park.
It's a detail/I can't locate the original photograph (when i find it I'll post it) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/46/2otg.jpgebay The decorative archway over the entrance owe some gratitude to Louis Sullivan and his Transportation Building at the Chicago World's Fair. So, I wonder what took place in this 'theater'? |
-here's a better example
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/24/zom1.jpg ebay Transportation Building, Chicago 1893 http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/31/gkdf.jpg http://www.travel-studies.com/geogra...louis-sullivan |
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Martin: Over the years I've read just about every major book that has come out on the BD, including the Donald Wolfe and Hodel books. As for the latter, after a certain point, I felt that any truth was tainted by what I perceive to be Hodel's strange, self-serving dedication to the proposition that his father was the killer. If not pathological, it began to seem more of a perverse gimmick to sell books. I'm in Larry Harnisch's camp: http://www.lmharnisch.com/home.html And his Daily Mirror blog: http://ladailymirror.com/category/black-dahlia/ |
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Yes, there's a security fence around the oil field; you can't just walk or drive in. I suspect there is a security patrol and/or cameras, and that security has been beefed up since 9/11, like everywhere else. But before that, it was possible to drive unchallenged into the oil field at the entrance on Stocker, near Fairfax (not near the brick house), even during daylight. Or so I'm told. ;) |
I found this photograph of Venice Beach while I was searching for the postcard of the Dancing Pavilion.
I know the enormous gas-meters downtown, as well as the one next to Charlie Chaplin's Studio in Hollywood, but I don't remember a gas-meter this close to the ocean. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/839/598r.jpg old file of mine Any one else aware of this one? I'm sure someone is. __ |
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http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eGasometer.jpg Historic Aerials At the middle of that lot today you'll find Google Los Angeles. The gasometer would have been just off the right of this picture. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Binoculars.jpg www.google.com |
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http://www.westland.net/venicehistor...naPark-LA.html http://samlanddisney.blogspot.ie/201...ment-park.html |
:previous: -I appreciate the links HossC.
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1925. It appears it had a 'mini-me' meter as well...to it's left (north) :) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/716/lg8m.jpg http://hollywoodhistoricphotos.ipowe...oducts_id/3244 Here it is in 1941. (almost needs a magnifying glass) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/513/gnv6.jpg www.westland.net __ |
The Sternwood Mansion
FWIW, here are the geographical references in The Big Sleep. Chandler was usually pretty good with his locations, just changing names.
Address: 3765 Alta Brea Crescent W Hollywood Description: "A winding driveway dropped down between retaining walls to the open iron gates. Beyond the fence the hill sloped for several miles. On this lover level faint and far off I could just barely see some of the old wooden derricks of the oilfield from which the Sternwoods had made their money. Most of the field was public park now, cleaned up and donated to the city by General Sternwood. But a little of it was still producing in groups of wells pumping five or six barrels a day." Reference: Less than 10 minutes drive or half an hour of "nimble walking" to "Laverne Terrace" off Laurel Canyon Drive. Reference: Abandoned well down the hlll, through the quiet, opulent streets ... bore east to La Brea, then south. Ten minute drive. Again, FWIW. Cheers, Earl |
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I am going to post them here for the casual NLA viewers that skip the links. __ The chronology is confusing to me. It's difficult to reconcile the single chute/theater photographs with these later images, -added rides, a drained lagoon etc. Here is a good view of the Chutes Theater. -notice the round windows on the side. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/838/4cym.jpg http://samlanddisney.blogspot.ie/201...ment-park.html repairs? -the 'electrical' fountain is in the distance. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/849/k2f0.jpg http://samlanddisney.blogspot.ie/201...ment-park.html -the 'electric' fountain close up/as seen in the earlier postcards. (I thought it was on the other side of the lagoon) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/13/nwta.jpg http://samlanddisney.blogspot.ie/201...ment-park.html -what are the buildings in the distance? -one is obviously a church...but the building to it's right? http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/196/0k4z.jpg http://samlanddisney.blogspot.ie/201...ment-park.html -interesting to see the vast residential area that surrounded the park. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/585/zvb8.jpg http://samlanddisney.blogspot.ie/201...ment-park.html I spy an Orpheum. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/203/ytxg.jpg http://samlanddisney.blogspot.ie/201...ment-park.html http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/30/mvvc.jpg http://samlanddisney.blogspot.ie/201...ment-park.html Is this really the same amusement park? http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/35/gmll.jpg http://samlanddisney.blogspot.ie/201...ment-park.html Amazing images. __ |
The Black Dahlia case.... finally solved?
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It got so hot for the Dr. that he actually left the US and hid in another country. He was questioned by the LA police on more than one occasion concerning E.S. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psc9442804.jpg. |
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Bing Streetside is fairer with respect to the country I mentioned. There's no coverage at all inside the country--but they aren't allowed to use it on other countries, either. So there! That'll teach 'em. |
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But where's the proof? Like his father, Hodel has no shame. His books are full of holes and absurdities, beginning with photographs of Short that are not her. And last year's publicity stunt featuring Buster the Wonder Dog isn't exactly encouraging as to the reputation of the man with the father animus: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1...2520AM.bmp.jpg http://ladailymirror.com/2013/11/14/...en-house-fail/ |
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/13/vb6j.jpgUSCDL
Seems unlikely that we wouldn't have seen a shot of the door of the old LA High on the grounds of the 1917 school, but here it is... dates ca. 1930 by the USCDL. |
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Here's a really fun photograph. 1930s?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/24/rudr.jpgebay The following are all details. -notice the stairs leading up to...storage?....observation deck? (we've previously seen a food stand with an observation deck on NLA) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/41/ggeg.jpg above: I wonder what kind of machine that is just to the right of the stairs? -anyone want to wager a guess? (I didn't get a detail of it :() -nice car http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/824/3ghx.jpg -this car isn't as impressive. ;) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/706/ybqx.jpg close-up of the street sign. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/849/g8ht.jpg Pretty cool place huh. __ side note: There is still a Triple XXX here in Lafayette IN where I live (to be precise it's across the Wabash in West Lafayette) It started life shaped as a barrel as well. (but only a single barrel) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/842/dpxg.jpg https://www.google.com/maps/preview/...d=0CJsBEKIqMAs |
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