Thanks.

Love "then/now" sets, or putting the "then" picture in the "now" picture. I often look at what's there now when folk post old shots here.

Here's one for you Bill. I drove by 45 S Arroyo Parkway in Pasadena the other day and was intrigued by this building.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4581/...453856a4_b.jpg
GSV

Here is the "before" when the address was 45 S. Broadway (with plaster and top deck).

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4528/...8ddeebfe_b.jpg
HDL

I love those trucks.

It looks like they took a couple of feet of the building

Winsel Gibbs Seed Catalog, Los Angeles [1925]
 

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/S8pQr3.jpg
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oldstuff, I almost forgot to thank you for the information on Winsel & Gibbs. THANK YOU. :)




Winsel-Gibb also had a small store at 211 S Main Street. (from the same 1925 seed catalog)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/tJdEpz.jpg
ebay




mentions "Our Store" at lower left.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/LNOnJk.jpg



mailer
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The Winsel-Gibb store space today.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/y40I01.jpggsv

directly across from St. Vibiana's

This intriguing photograph was published in the April 21, 1908 Los Angeles Herald (without an accompanying story)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/TRjCcN.jpg
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc

I was god-smacked by the extreme depth of this tunnel....1,300 feet!

So did this tunnel have anything to do with the old Buena Vista Reservoir that was built in Elysian Park in 1876
or is this 'tunnel' connecting to Silver Lake reservoir?

And where, pray-tell, was the pump house located? I thought it would be some distance from Elysian Park. (or maybe I'm not understanding how reservoirs work)
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A tale of two Chancellors?


The Chancellor :previous: is listed as "Apartments" in several '30s and '40s CDs. Apparently unrelated, there is another "Chancellor," some five miles away, at 3191 West Seventh Street. (Seventh and Berendo.) The "Chancellor Hotel" structure has been there since '24. Wonder how many cabbies exclaimed, "I thought you meant the other one." :shrug:


1925
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1842 N Cherokee
 

Continuing the theme, here is the Chancellor in 2017, 70 years after the Elizabeth Short murder. It suffered a parapet correction, ditched the signage, gained some greenery and got a new name, "Chateau Hollywood":

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nM...g=w596-h541-no
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Black Dahlia
 

Don't think anyone here has mentioned the brand-new book about the Black Dahlia. The improbably named British author and TV producer Piu Eatwell claims (as most of them do) to solve the murder of Elizabeth Short in "Black Dahlia, Red Rose."
Eatwell fingers a suspect I was not familiar with named Leslie Dillon, and thinks the murder was committed at The Aster Motel on Figueroa Street.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/eq0Nq8.png
The Aster Motel, a definite step down from the Chancellor.
https://ladailymirror.files.wordpres...ng?w=684&h=483


I've only read some reviews of the book, but apparently she claims that Dillon was a friend of the infamous Mark Hansen, part-owner of The Florentine Gardens nightclub, whose home on Carlos Avenue was a kind of rooming house for attractive young women. Eatwell believes that Hansen was intensely jealous of Short and ordered his psychopathic accquaintance Dillon to get rid of her. (Sounds like a shaky premise to me). Supposedly Hansen had dirt on members of the police department, who in turn arranged a cover-up when attention turned to Dillon and his connection to Hansen.
Eatwell has impressive credentials and The Times of London gave her book a good review - but the L.A. Times' Larry Harnisch totally dismisses her theory, thinks it's preposterous...and so it goes.

Here is a very sensationalized review of "Black Dahlia, Red Rose" in The Mirror UK:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...blood-11161233

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Larry Harnish says HE has the last word on the murder and probably doesn't appreciate others' opinions.

The Times (London) review is at:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/r...well-lhvptx2pn

(Man, I so don't have a dog in this fight)

Nice theory, but Betty Short mostly sponged off acquaintances. She wouldn't have la
sted a day n that place.

Thx BDiH. Nice.

(about 3/4th of the way down the page in the right-hand column)

Whoa... I walk past this place every day. Thank you for the great find.

S Raymond Pasadena
 

If I'm not mistaken this building went from Victorian to Deco.....wonder what happened to the bowling alley inside? I may have to go snooping.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4539/...2e547f3f_b.jpg
HDL

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4565/...852da84b_b.jpg
GSV

686 Carondelet, 1902-1976
 

The Feuerborn home was on the NE corner of 7th and Carondelet, which jogs to the west above 7th.
The following two images are from the January 26, 1902, Los Angeles Times:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...4.jpg~original

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...r.jpg~original

ProQuest via LAPL


Here is the front of the house, from Carondelet:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...5.jpg~original


This is the back of the house, with the garage at right, from 7th Street:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...1.jpg~original

(Both) The Inland Architect and News Record Vol 45 No 3 April 1905 @ HathiTrust


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1904 LA City Directory @ fold3.com


1906 Sanborn:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...w.jpg~original

ProQuest via LAPL


1950 Sanborn; I don't know when 686 Carondelet became a restaurant:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...t.jpg~original

ProQuest via LAPL


In 1963, 686 Carondelet was a french restaurant:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psykwrhygj.jpg

July 29, 1963, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LAPL



http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...pswmsxwcwv.jpg

February 9, 1964, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LAPL


Boccard's gave way to Helene's:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psnkpgmtoh.jpg

June 17, 1966, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LAPL


Here is 686 Carondelet at the center of this 1968 aerial that looks NW:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8x4xuh4m.jpg

DW-87-54-B26-ISLA at USCDL


The demo permit for 686 Carondelet is dated April 16, 1976. t2 already showed us what's there now
(the wide building just below center):

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Yes, that's Parkview Terrace Apartments, for seniors I'm told. Thank you FW for the history of the site.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/na...M=w960-h474-no
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Did we discuss the barrel-shaped building to the right of the garage in the 1932 image before?


The auto body shop is now vacant and "ripe for redevelopment", as they say:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ps...=w1264-h539-no
gsv 2017

Good one! As recently as 2006, this used to be my gym, back when it was a
Bally Total Fitness; it closed and became vacant after Bally closed and was bought out by 24 Hour Fitness.

And, I used to work with someone who told me that in the 1970s, this building used to be a high-end car dealership, but she didn't remember what brand; I think it might've been a dealership owned by Rusnak, who has other dealerships in Pasadena on Colorado Boulevard, near the western end of Old Town Pasadena.

Dr. Meyers Nervine and Mdme. Brady's Female Compound
 

Browsing through random Calisphere.org pictures I found the following, captioned "1957 - candidate for slum clearance, 1st and Central":

https://i.imgur.com/Sg2cVwQ.jpg
calisphere.org

It looks like the Brunswig Square building is peeking over from the next block, so we're looking at the SW corner of 1st and Central:

https://i.imgur.com/1dMPqIV.jpg
GSV

I think that water tower has been seen in other photos here. A few letters are legible: "__C PUR_". Looking for a Sanborn map of where I thought the tank would be, I found:

https://i.imgur.com/jOZyBO4.jpg
lapl.org

This shows a tank belonging to the Purepac Corporation, which was a pharmaceutical manufacturer based in New York. The lettering is hard to read, I think it might say "45,000 gal steel spklr ?? Elev. 60' abv ?? filled from city main by 120 gpm elec cent pump tank not in use"

The Purepac Corporation had a mixed reputation, being the object of enforcement actions and court cases:

https://i.imgur.com/RNTa7Ig.jpg
US Nat'l Library of Medicine

As a physician, I'm intrigued by such things as Dr. Meyers Nervine and Mdme Brady's Female Compound. I am guessing the former caused bromism (chronic bromine intoxication) which paradoxically causes the symptoms it purportedly was used to cure.

Hey guys, this ghost sign was revealed last week on Broadway during the conversion of a space to WSS Shoes.

545 S Broadway - 'HARTFIELD'S' - I can't find any vintage images showing the space or that sign. Would love to see some.


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4515/...d1f6e6ab_b.jpgWSS Shoes / Hartfields? by Hunter, on Flickr


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4523/...cf609ed4_b.jpgWSS Shoes / Hartfields? by Hunter, on Flickr