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NYguy Feb 6, 2013 9:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NYC4Life (Post 6003724)
Facade looks a lot like the International Gem Tower in Midtown.

It reminds me a lot of that.


http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2011...r--300x450.jpg http://upload.pbase.com/image/148641346/medium.jpg

reencharles Feb 7, 2013 1:50 AM

I liked... The facade is really amazing, and will match the WTC complex. But as said before, it could be higher.

Antares41 Feb 7, 2013 2:53 AM

I find it quite intriguing. Seen like fancy facade design is becoming all the rage; I welcome it. It will be especially interesting to see how it interacts with the change in daylight from dawn to dusk.

NYguy Feb 7, 2013 8:19 AM

http://www.selldorf.com/projects/fea...nhattan-tower/


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Selldorf Architects created a concept design for a 400,000 gsf residential tower located on a prominent site in lower Manhattan. Surrounded by other high-rise developments, the 54-story building has a faceted façade of irregular glass bays which provides direct and oblique views for residents, while also creating depth and changing patterns of shadow and light on the exterior. Cloaking the façade, a system of operable terracotta louvers animates the building with its changing configurations and reflectivity.

The louvers are controlled by each individual apartment to create privacy and have dual matte and mirrored finishes to reflect or refract light as desired. Functioning as a second skin, the system also provides the environmental benefits of reducing solar gain and creating a stack-effect for natural cooling and heating. Beyond its striking figure, the building engages the neighborhood with public programs in the base including a performing arts center for dance with theater and rehearsal spaces, as well as a health club and café.


http://upload.pbase.com/image/148641346/original.jpg

Dylan Leblanc Mar 18, 2013 4:08 AM

How about 450 Elizabeth in Melbourne



http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=196364

NYguy Mar 18, 2013 5:04 PM

^ Very similar. I like the pattern on that one better.

NYguy Apr 12, 2013 10:14 PM

http://tribecatrib.com/content/touri...tion-thames-st

Tourist-Clogged Streets Feared with Imminent Demolition on Thames St.


http://tribecatrib.com/sites/default...mes-peds-2.jpg



By ALINE REYNOLDS
Apr. 12, 2013


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With the four-month demolition of a nearby building beginning on Monday, April 15, some Financial District residents are railing against street-closure plans they say will choke their already tourist-packed neighborhood. The city will close Thames Street, a main pedestrian corridor to the National Sept. 11 Memorial, to vehicles and pedestrians, and Cedar Street, a block north, to general vehicular traffic. The plan is to reroute pedestrians to Cedar, which the residents fear will further congest their streets.

Developer Fisher Brothers is tearing down 22 Thames, formerly an American Stock Exchange building, to make room for what will likely be a towering building with up to 360,000 square feet of apartments and retail. Fisher Brothers reportedly purchased 22 Thames, along with the 86 Trinity Place, the former main American Stock Exchange building, for $150 million last year.

Fisher Brothers executive Alex Adams and Thomas D’Ercole, from Plaza Construction, faced the angry residents earlier this month at a meeting of Community Board 1’s Financial District Committee where they had come to discuss their plans.

Dianne Blell, from 125 Cedar, threatened to “throw a tantrum” if the city proceeds with its plans to close Cedar. “You’re going to have 100 breakdowns and lawsuits on your hand besides me screaming in the street,” she said.

James Fernandez, who lives at 114 Liberty, called the plan to close Thames Street “completely nuts.” The area, he said, is already so packed that he and his 6-year-old son have to dismount their bikes to avoid hitting pedestrians near the memorial.

“You’re going to be taking the major thoroughfare to the memorial completely out with Thames Street,” he said. “We recognize that this is a very sensitive area and a sensitive site,” Adams said, “and we’re trying to do our best to respect everyone’s interests.”

In an e-mailed statement, DOT spokeswoman Nicole Garcia told the Trib that the agency reviewed a permit request by the developer outlining plans for street closures and traffic management. “Safety is DOT’s first priority,” she said. “Important to note, DOT also coordinated this temporary detour with local stakeholders and partner agencies.”

But residents said the street closure plans were sprung on them at the last minute. “I don’t know what your outreach was supposed to be, but it failed miserably,” said Pat Moore, a member or the committee and resident of 125 Cedar St. “You have to work with the management of the buildings so that the residents know exactly what’s going on.”

D’Ercole said that he and a colleague did distribute notices of the demolition and street closures in nearby apartment buildings on Albany, Liberty and Cedar Streets. He and Adams said they have been talking to administrators at the 9/11 Memorial, which attracts up to 18,000 visitors a day, and two neighboring high schools about ways to keep the demolition from overcrowding streets, distracting students and obstructing emergency exits in the schools. Pedestrian managers, for example, will help oversee traffic flow to and from the memorial, and work will be halted during students’ Regents exams.

But as for complaints that the residents have been kept in the dark, “You’re getting a commitment to improve that communication,” he said, “we hear you loud and clear. We’re going to do better.”

There is heightened speculation over what will be constructed at 22 Thames, a building that can rise more than 600 feet. Adams said he couldn’t share details about the developer’s plans for the future building, whose construction is slated to start next spring. “I’m sure a lot of you would like to hear about our longer-term plans for the site,” he said, “[but] there’s not a lot of specific information I can give you on that tonight.”

antinimby Apr 12, 2013 10:22 PM

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James Fernandez, who lives at 114 Liberty, called the plan to close Thames Street “completely nuts.” The area, he said, is already so packed that he and his 6-year-old son have to dismount their bikes to avoid hitting pedestrians near the memorial.
Aw, life can be so tough. :rolleyes:

NYguy Apr 12, 2013 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by antinimby (Post 6089184)
Aw, life can be so tough. :rolleyes:

Well, this is the best. I wish all NIMBYs did this:

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Dianne Blell, from 125 Cedar, threatened to “throw a tantrum” if the city proceeds with its plans to close Cedar. “You’re going to have 100 breakdowns and lawsuits on your hand besides me screaming in the street,” she said.

babybackribs2314 Jul 3, 2013 3:08 PM

Ummm, so while no-one was paying attention, permits for 22 Thames were re-filed - the last ones (rejected) were for a 70-story 841-foot tower by Vinoly!

Demolition is also well underway.

22 Thames Street July 2013 Demolition Update

http://www.yimbynews.com/wp-content/...7/22Thames.jpg

MarshallKnight Jul 3, 2013 6:44 PM

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Originally Posted by babybackribs2314 (Post 6185495)
Ummm, so while no-one was paying attention, permits for 22 Thames were re-filed - the last ones (rejected) were for a 70-story 841-foot tower by Vinoly!
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So what is the relationship between that and the Selldorf concept above with the dynamic facade?

babybackribs2314 Jul 3, 2013 7:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MarshallKnight (Post 6185831)
So what is the relationship between that and the Selldorf concept above with the dynamic facade?

There was speculation the tower could rise here, or at an adjacent site - but that does not appear to be the case, at least at 22 Thames, as Vinoly was the last architect of record on the most recent permits.

Crawford Jul 3, 2013 7:30 PM

Time to change thread title to 70 floors and 841 ft., per building permits.

I have high hopes for this one. Hopefully Vinoly comes up with something good.

NYguy Jul 3, 2013 9:52 PM

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Originally Posted by babybackribs2314 (Post 6185495)
Ummm, so while no-one was paying attention, permits for 22 Thames were re-filed - the last ones (rejected) were for a 70-story 841-foot tower by Vinoly!


Then that's most likely the one being planned. Good heads up...:tup:

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01


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PRIOR TO APPROVAL AMENDMENT FILED TO SUPERCEDE APPLICANT OF RECORD,CHANGE FILING REPRESENTATIVE AND CHANGE OWNER. ALSO SUBMITTING REVISED PLANS FROM NEW ARCHITECT

MarshallKnight Jul 4, 2013 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by babybackribs2314 (Post 6185884)
There was speculation the tower could rise here, or at an adjacent site - but that does not appear to be the case, at least at 22 Thames, as Vinoly was the last architect of record on the most recent permits.

Ohhh, thanks for the clarification. So, we still have to figure out where that tower will rise (if at all), correct?

Excited to see what Vinoly has in store. I just hope they make with the quality renderings early, instead of the same kind of crappy ones that caused all the negative hullabaloo over 432P.

reencharles Jul 4, 2013 4:07 AM

Cool. I thought that building at the top of the page would be built here, but the way it was just a proposal. Anyway, I'm happy with this height increase. Will be somewhat less than the 4 WTC, and has a very thin footprint. I hope Vinoly do something worthy of this place.

It would be cool if someone made a model of mass here to get an idea.

NYguy Jul 17, 2013 4:00 PM

http://therealdeal.com/blog/2013/07/...-22-thames-st/


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Starchitect Rafael Vinoly, most recently of 432 Park Avenue fame, has been tapped to design the Fisher Brothers’ project at the former American Stock Exchange buildings in Tribeca, according to a community board agenda seen by the Tribeca Citizen.

In September, Fisher Brothers purchased the buildings –located at 22 Thames Street and neighboring 86 Trinity Place —from investors Michael Steinhardt and Allan Fried for $150 million, as The Real Deal reported.Plans from Selldorf Architects released in February for 22 Thames Street called for a 54-story mixed-use building with 428 residential units, five floors dedicated to retail, and two floors of performing arts studios.


StoOgE Jul 17, 2013 7:59 PM

In what world is this tower in Tribeca?

Onn Jul 17, 2013 9:29 PM

Vinoly's on a roll! A 70 story tower could easily reach 900 feet if there were a crown or mechanical floors. Hopefully he comes up with a bold design that challenges 56 Leonard and 30 Park Place and Beekman Tower. :)

401PAS Jul 18, 2013 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by StoOgE (Post 6201297)
In what world is this tower in Tribeca?

Was thinking the same thing. Since when did Tribeca extend south of the WTC? :shrug:


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