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ScottyB Feb 1, 2017 6:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffDiego (Post 7694377)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7694833)
:previous:

And why would there be a "motorcycle officer" at that location?
And where is his motorcycle?

I believe I just found Officer Edwards' bike- in the possession of "Doris Young posing on a police motorcycle as publicity for the Police Relief Association ball at the Pasadena Civic Auditorium November 26, 1941. From note with negative, "Pasadena --- How would you like to be pinched by this lovely cop? [cringe] Selected as the most beautiful working girl in Pasadena, 21-year-old Doris Young, switchboard operator at Fletcher Aviation Corporation, will be the "belle of the ball" at the annual Police Relief Association ball in the Pasadena Civic Auditorium Wednesday (Nov. 26)".

Outfit not in compliance with Old Pasadena standards.....those shoes!
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/769/32...70a42859_b.jpg
http://cdm15123.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/1355/rec/6

CityBoyDoug Feb 1, 2017 8:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 7696837)
Doesn't seem like there'd be much privacy:

http://i.imgur.com/a7L3lsX.jpg
Bing maps

Details:
http://i.imgur.com/SVQSnce.jpg
LAT 3/31/37

There was only one Father Divine (George Baker). John the Revelator's attorney was Hugh McBeth, an African-American lawyer who was very active in various civil liberty and civil rights causes in the 30s and 40s.

For a wild ride, its hard to beat the life and times of Father Divine.
Rev. George Baker [aka Father Divine], and his wife shown here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psall4cah1.jpg
alchetron

GaylordWilshire Feb 1, 2017 12:45 PM

:previous:



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/37...Q=w789-h747-no


Not totally convinced that the image above is 807 N Roxbury...very hard to get near the house on GSV. In fact, the camera skips by several houses between 801 and about 815...strange. Who lives in this forbidden stretch today?

ethereal_reality Feb 1, 2017 7:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 7696925)

Very hard to get near the house on GSV. In fact, the camera skips by several houses between 801 and about 815...strange.

Who lives in this forbidden stretch today?

Cult Mansion of "St. John the Revelator"
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/u2otTj.jpg
Bing_maps

Luckily, the Bing-Mobile didn't get the memo to avoid this stretch of Roxbury.
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And while we're on the subject.

Here's another image of Delight Jewitt.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/Pjq2lq.jpg
http://lit250v.library.ucla.edu/isla...ilyNews%3A5967

Delight Jewett and U.S. Attorney Fleet Palmer in his office. The seventeen-year-old Delight Jewett, a follower of cult leader Father Divine, was to be a witness in the case
against fellow Divine follower John Wuest Hunt, who had molested Jewett under the pretense of immaculate conception.

Text from original nitrate sleeve: Jewett, Delight; Jewett, Norman; Palmer, Fleet -- US Atty., Handwritten annotation from nitrate negative: "Delight Jewett and Fleet Palmer"





update:

Here's one more pic for good measure.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/H7pnFY.jpg
http://lit250v.library.ucla.edu/isla...ilyNews%3A5966

Delight Jewett, her father Norman Jewett, and U.S. Attorney Fleet Palmer.





Anyone who can figure out the pic on the calendar gets to join me and Lorendoc at the Feed Rack for lunch. ;)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/xxFBkg.jpg
detail

(to me...it looks like a cross between Gumby & a Tiki God) taking a bow

but I highly doubt that's correct. :)

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GaylordWilshire Feb 1, 2017 7:51 PM

:previous:


Thanks ER-- looks like a hint of the arch in the 1937 LAT image but there is some apparent remodeling--different windows at the nec. So if Bing can photograph the houses along this stretch of the 800 block of N Roxbury, why not GSV?

HossC Feb 1, 2017 8:05 PM

This Julius Shulman photoset has an intriguing title, but failed to live up to it. It's "Job 2029: Miscellaneous Buildings: St. Alphonsus Church; Crown Zellerbach; Max Factor Co.; Bethlehem Steel Company, 1955". After promising four subjects, there are only two, and the Bethlehem Steel Company building looks like a collection of shipping containers (my opinion), so I'm just posting the church.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

Here's a wider view.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Both from Getty Research Institute

St Alphonsus Catholic Church can still be found at 532 S Atlantic Boulevard. Only the small plants and lamppost seem to have changed.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
GSV

AlvaroLegido Feb 1, 2017 8:31 PM

Noirish view !
 
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7697388)
Here's another image of Delight Jewitt.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/Pjq2lq.jpg
http://lit250v.library.ucla.edu/isla...ilyNews%3A5967
Delight Jewett and U.S. Attorney Fleet Palmer in his office. The seventeen-year-old Delight Jewett, a follower of cult leader Father Divine, was to be a witness in the case
against fellow Divine follower John Wuest Hunt, who had molested Jewett under the pretense of immaculate conception.
Text from original nitrate sleeve: Jewett, Delight; Jewett, Norman; Palmer, Fleet -- US Atty., Handwritten annotation from nitrate negative: "Delight Jewett and Fleet Palmer"
update:
Here's one more pic for good measure.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/H7pnFY.jpg
http://lit250v.library.ucla.edu/isla...ilyNews%3A5966
Delight Jewett, her father Norman Jewett, and U.S. Attorney Fleet Palmer.

The noirish view by the windows made me wish to locate this attorney's office. It would take me too much time compared to the NLA scholars. Well...

ethereal_reality Feb 1, 2017 8:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7697429)

:previous:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/T0ZTkO.jpg
https://www.theeastsiderla.com/2014/...s-in-east-l-a/

Members Lifestyle Low Rider Car Club on Friday paid their last respects to a fallen member during a funeral service at St. Alphonsus Church on Atlantic Boulevard.
C.J. Salgado, who snapped the photo above, said there must have been about a 100 club members in attendance and the parking lot was full of lowriders.

:previous: Are those the cars that bounce up and down?

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ethereal_reality Feb 1, 2017 8:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido (Post 7697471)
The noirish view by the windows made me wish to locate this attorney's office. It would take me too much time compared to the NLA scholars. Well...

I had the same thought AlvaroLegido.

Let's go for it!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/98K7V7.jpghttp://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/ogtqgr.jpg


The Feed Rack is going to be standing room only by the end of the week. ;)

CityBoyDoug Feb 1, 2017 8:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7697479)
:previous:

https://www.theeastsiderla.com/2014/...s-in-east-l-a/

Members Lifestyle Low Rider Car Club on Friday paid their last respects to a fallen member during a funeral service at St. Alphonsus Church on Atlantic Boulevard.
C.J. Salgado, who snapped the photo above, said there must have been about a 100 club members in attendance and the parking lot was full of lowriders.

:previous: Are these the cars that bounce up and down?

That would have been one interesting funeral procession. (I wonder if they rigged the hearse to bounce up and down too)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/T0ZTkO.jpg
https://www.theeastsiderla.com/2014/...s-in-east-l-a/

No, these aren't the crazy bouncing cars. The bouncing cars are usually just stock colors and the body is set high off the ground.
The cars by the church appear to be low rider custom cars.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psxuyvrvhf.jpg
http://static1.businessinsider.com/i...0084470034.jpg

HossC Feb 1, 2017 9:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7697388)

Here's another image of Delight Jewitt.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/Pjq2lq.jpg
http://lit250v.library.ucla.edu/isla...ilyNews%3A5967

Delight Jewett and U.S. Attorney Fleet Palmer in his office. The seventeen-year-old Delight Jewett, a follower of cult leader Father Divine, was to be a witness in the case
against fellow Divine follower John Wuest Hunt, who had molested Jewett under the pretense of immaculate conception.

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Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido (Post 7697471)

The noirish view by the windows made me wish to locate this attorney's office. It would take me too much time compared to the NLA scholars. Well...

I think Fleet Palmer was actually William Fleet Palmer Jr. There's a free page about his father, William Fleet Palmer, at ancestry.com. Maybe he used his middle name to distinguish himself from his father (like Lloyd Wright), or maybe it was to avoid confusion with contemporary superior court judge William J Palmer. The 1936 CD lists William F Palmer as an assistant US Attorney who was resident in Monrovia (which ties into the link above), but doesn't list a business address. The same CD lists M Hall Peirson as the US Attorney with an office at 508 Federal Building. Could the view be the from the Federal Building, looking across to the gasometers?

Earl Boebert Feb 1, 2017 9:21 PM

Re: The "mystery" tower on the Iwata house:

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Originally Posted by Diamond-X (Post 7696476)
I believe what were looking at is a telescoping antenna support. My neighbor had one back in the '80s which he topped with a HAM radio antenna. There is a winch that you crank, raising and lowering the aerial which appears to be absent.

You nailed it. The 1993 Call Book for Ham operators lists Richard H. Iwata, 912 Summit Place, Monterey Park, CA 91754 as holding call sign W6NQO (since reassigned.) Born 1917, died 2000, previous address 129 S. Mathews St., Los Angeles. 33 Calif.

Cheers,

Earl

odinthor Feb 1, 2017 9:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7697541)
I think Fleet Palmer was actually William Fleet Palmer Jr. There's a free page about his father, William Fleet Palmer, at ancestry.com. Maybe he used his middle name to distinguish himself from his father (like Lloyd Wright), or maybe it was to avoid confusion with contemporary superior court judge William J Palmer. The 1936 CD lists William F Palmer as an assistant US Attorney who was resident in Monrovia (which ties into the link above), but doesn't list a business address. The same CD lists M Hall Peirson as the US Attorney with an office at 508 Federal Building. Could the view be the from the Federal Building, looking across to the gasometers?

Does this help?

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...psxacbzl57.jpg
odinthor collection (much enlarged detail from an image)

ethereal_reality Feb 1, 2017 9:31 PM

Re: Iwata house tower:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 7697557)

You nailed it Diamond-X.

The 1993 Call Book for Ham operators lists Richard H. Iwata, 912 Summit Place, Monterey Park, CA 91754 as holding call sign W6NQO.)

Cheers,

Earl

:previous:That's what I call some excellent sleuthing Earl. (and Diamond-X)

See ya at the Feed Rack.

Blaster Feb 1, 2017 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7697388)



Anyone who can figure out the pic on the calendar gets to join me and Lorendoc at the Feed Rack for lunch. ;)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/xxFBkg.jpg
detail

(to me...it looks like a cross between Gumby & a Tiki God) taking a bow

but I highly doubt that's correct. :)

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A Native American man (or woman) and child, looking into a mountain lake?

ethereal_reality Feb 1, 2017 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7697541)

Could the view be the from the Federal Building, looking across to the gasometers?

I was going to say you're probably right Hoss.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/pAg5r4.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...s_1940_Ref.jpg



I just realized there's a middle window hidden by a blind in the vintage photo. (I guess I was too busy lookin' at everything else in the room)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/Pjq2lq.jpg
base.dupral

& unless I'm mistaken the windows in the federal Bldg are in pairs. (not in threes)

tovangar2 Feb 1, 2017 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7697388)
Anyone who can figure out the pic on the calendar gets to join me and Lorendoc at the Feed Rack for lunch. ;)
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Party of four pls. Blaster & I are gonna carpool over.

That's the Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe calendar image for 1937.

"Water Birds" by E. I. Couse:

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui...&sz=w1366-h638
qstation

HossC Feb 1, 2017 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7697699)

I was going to say you're probably right Hoss.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/pAg5r4.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...s_1940_Ref.jpg

I just realized there's a middle window hidden by a blind in the vintage photo. (I guess I was too busy lookin' at everything else in the room)

...

& unless I'm mistaken, the windows in the federal Bldg are in pairs, right?

Wasn't the old Post Office still known as the Federal building in early 1937? Fleet Palmer is in his office in April 1937, and by June 25, 1937 the old Post Office looked like this.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

Here's a 1908 image for comparison. The rooms on the top floor have triple windows, and as the US Attorney's office was in 508 (from my earlier post), that was probably on the fifth floor.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

ethereal_reality Feb 1, 2017 11:40 PM

:previous: & I just realized the 'new' Federal Building wasn't completed until 1940, three years after the Delight Jewitt/Wm.'Fleet' Palmer office photograph.

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Originally Posted by Blaster (Post 7697651)
A Native American man (or woman) and child, looking into a mountain lake?

I think you're correct Blaster.

I couldn't see it at first, but I sure can now!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/SDV9xU.jpg

They're looking down toward the lake on the left.

tovangar2 Feb 1, 2017 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7697737)
:previous: I think you're right Blaster.


Hey Boss, you missed my post.


Did the image not show?


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