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QuantumX Jun 2, 2013 5:03 PM

There are 8 buildings in this row over 500 feet tall. There are two over 600 feet tall currently under construction. You can barely make out the cranes in the photo. There is another over 600 feet tall that was just aproved. The height limit here I believe is 650 feet due to the proximity of Opa-Locka airport.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2856/8...143c9b33_b.jpg
DSC_0467 by QuantumX, on Flickr

simms3_redux Jun 3, 2013 2:44 PM

^^^Posting same pic twice? It sounded more like AustinLee was poking fun at that ridiculous scene of tacky highrises filled with Russian Oligarchs (being that it's Sunny Isles), LoL. You should capture a couple of pics of Acqualina, which is slightly visible with orance stucco facade and orange roof (I actually like the clean designs of the Trump towers, but that's about it).

http://www.kafka-franz.com/images/Ac...Miami%20FL.jpg
http://www.kafka-franz.com/acqualina-condo.htm

mhays Jun 3, 2013 3:11 PM

That driveway etc. sure wastes a lot of land.

urbanactivist Jun 3, 2013 4:55 PM

I'm pretty proud of taking this shot :D

Downtown Houston, from the other side. You know the one that actually has more than 10 buildings.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ftq144fcds.../s1600/030.JPG

QuantumX Jun 3, 2013 7:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simms3_redux (Post 6151084)
^^^Posting same pic twice? It sounded more like AustinLee was poking fun at that ridiculous scene of tacky highrises filled with Russian Oligarchs (being that it's Sunny Isles), LoL. You should capture a couple of pics of Acqualina, which is slightly visible with orance stucco facade and orange roof (I actually like the clean designs of the Trump towers, but that's about it).

Well, at least I didn't post the same pic on the same page. Oh, is that what AustinLee was doing? I hadn't noticed! Acquelina is one building, BTW. Not a skyline pic.

dave8721 Jun 3, 2013 7:44 PM

That section of Collins Ave in Sunny Isles Beach always reminds me of Sheikh Zayad Road in Dubai for some reason with the single row of packed in residential towers.
http://www.guide2dubai.com/gallery/s...zayad_road.jpg

LosAngelesSportsFan Jun 3, 2013 8:06 PM

urbanactivist, great pic!

BevoLJ Jun 3, 2013 9:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urbanactivist (Post 6151285)
I'm pretty proud of taking this shot :D

Downtown Houston, from the other side. You know the one that actually has more than 10 buildings.

That is one of the best pics I've seen of Downtown Houston! Love it.

pdxtex Jun 4, 2013 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingchef (Post 6056903)
imo, toronto is one of those great cities that happen to have wonderful symmetry. i don't know if that were planned or just happened. one thing i do know is that it really does help showcase the city. very nice. i wish some of the american cities that allow developers to build skyscrapers of such enormous proportions, would think about the real possibilities of that particular city growing to the point that 6 to 12 skyscrapers of ten stories <> will likely balance such out of place structures in the city's future.

toronto is that annoying kid who was good at sports and academics, yet wasn't a jerk. its also very photogenic!!

Yackemflaber69 Jun 5, 2013 3:18 AM

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/p...um/2674321.jpg
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/p...um/2674321.jpg

Sarnia,Ontario

QuantumX Jun 8, 2013 5:55 PM

Preview to the next exciting episode of Banana Republic 5!
 
I love science-fiction! :yes::cheers:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8111/8...00238868_b.jpg
View to Sunny Isles Beach by Redroom Studios, on Flickr

Private Dick Jun 8, 2013 6:15 PM

^ Myrtle Beach?

IconRPCV Jun 8, 2013 6:53 PM

Downtown LA
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/97165717@N02/

IconRPCV Jun 8, 2013 6:57 PM

Downtown LA
 
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/97165717@N02/8988254041/" title="Downtown Los Angeles by michaelmacfarland, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2808/8988254041_3e0db1d07e.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Downtown Los Angeles"></a>

My PIC

IconRPCV Jun 8, 2013 7:04 PM

Downtown LA
 
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7296/8...b7d7abfc_c.jpg
Downtown Los Angeles by michaelmacfarland, on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5459/8...f4ed21ce_c.jpg
Downtown Los Angeles by michaelmacfarland, on Flickr

My Pics

whiteford Jun 9, 2013 8:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuantumX (Post 6150263)
There are 8 buildings in this row over 500 feet tall. There are two over 600 feet tall currently under construction. You can barely make out the cranes in the photo. There is another over 600 feet tall that was just aproved. The height limit here I believe is 650 feet due to the proximity of Opa-Locka airport.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2856/8...143c9b33_b.jpg
DSC_0467 by QuantumX, on Flickr

these towers are dreadful. such a wonderful opportunity lost.

whiteford Jun 9, 2013 9:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simms3_redux (Post 6151084)
^^^Posting same pic twice? It sounded more like AustinLee was poking fun at that ridiculous scene of tacky highrises filled with Russian Oligarchs (being that it's Sunny Isles), LoL. You should capture a couple of pics of Acqualina, which is slightly visible with orance stucco facade and orange roof (I actually like the clean designs of the Trump towers, but that's about it).

http://www.kafka-franz.com/images/Ac...Miami%20FL.jpg
http://www.kafka-franz.com/acqualina-condo.htm

unbelievable. how did it ever get approved?

jd3189 Jun 9, 2013 9:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteford (Post 6158801)
these towers are dreadful. such a wonderful opportunity lost.

I don't know. That's basically the general style of the area.

Here's a shot of Miami northward.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/miamitom/

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3058/3...ab63bf13_o.jpg

QuantumX Jun 9, 2013 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Private Dick (Post 6157961)
^ Myrtle Beach?

No, this is Myrtle Beach below!

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteford (Post 6158801)
these towers are dreadful. such a wonderful opportunity lost.

And what would you consider a wonderful opportunity found? When I've asked people this type of question in the past, I've usually found their taste to be even more dreadful.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8096/8...949c7b73_b.jpg
Girls on Film by Redroom Studios, on Flickr

QuantumX Jun 9, 2013 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd3189 (Post 6158852)
I don't know. That's basically the general style of the area.

It's the tropical palette. It's just the way that it is here.

Private Dick Jun 9, 2013 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd3189 (Post 6158852)
I don't know. That's basically the general style of the area.

Which in general is rather bland, balconyed crap (as defined by construction in the past decade+)... or, in the case of the Acqualina, overly-gaudy, cheesiness that's trying WAY to hard. Sunny Isles is particularly bad. A rare opportunity to build on a relatively blank, oceanfront slate, and they got the LCD architecturally... i.e. whatever the hell the developers wanted to put up to cash in and cash out.

Myrtle Beach on steroids.

jd3189 Jun 9, 2013 11:05 PM

^^^ I agree, but I see all of this as infill for other, more skillful architects to work with. Remember, Miami and the surrounding areas are relatively young at a urban context. However, I would like to see more densification in the future instead of suburban condos.

Private Dick Jun 9, 2013 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd3189 (Post 6158889)
^^^ I agree, but I see all of this as infill for other, more skillful architects to work with. Remember, Miami and the surrounding areas are relatively young at a urban context. However, I would like to see more densification in the future instead of suburban condos.

500+ foot towers are not infill.

And don't give the Miami is a young city line of BS. The boom in the 80s, along with 90s projects, bestowed far greater architecture in variety, form, and function for both residential and commercial developments. The past decade plus is characterized by developers run amok, with little to zero concern from the city as to what the results would be -- the story is painted clear as day all over the various skylines there.

jd3189 Jun 9, 2013 11:28 PM

^^^ Well then, I guess the city will have to control this and create a solid plan. Hopefully that will happen or Miami will continue to have the characteristics of dramatic tacky skylines not far from neighborhoods with a 3rd world feel and endless sprawl.

QuantumX Jun 9, 2013 11:46 PM

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7287/9...f7dc797e_b.jpg
DSC_0290 by QuantumX, on Flickr

QuantumX Jun 10, 2013 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd3189 (Post 6158921)
^^^ Well then, I guess the city will have to control this and create a solid plan. Hopefully that will happen or Miami will continue to have the characteristics of dramatic tacky skylines not far from neighborhoods with a 3rd world feel and endless sprawl.

We are far from done here, but when other people make the kinds of comments that they do, consider where they're living or where they might be living and what's going on there. I think that tends to explain a lot.

simms3_redux Jun 10, 2013 2:35 AM

^^^Well, I know I'm one of the biggest culprits of what you term as Miami bashing.

What I think has happened is this: in the early 2000s through perhaps 2009, the amount of construction in South FL was unbelievable. People, especially on this forum, were very excited to watch the exponential increase in the skyline unfold. Unfortunately for Miami's sympathizers, pure "construction" only goes so far. People are generally interested in design, context, and the basis behind the construction, as well. Couple that with an oddly missing element on this forum from Miami - aside from you and your pictures, and a couple other occasional posters, there isn't much "robust" discussion on Miami as there are other major cities. Take Atlanta - which does not have the overall design or construction going on that Miami consistently has these days, there is still tons of robust discussion between dozens of active posters, and the discussions are typically quite informative and intellectual in nature. I've certainly bashed Atlanta, my adopted hometown previously, probably more than Miami, but I also try to add to that amazing conversation on their construction/city threads.

What I've heard in the real estate community is that there is so much incredibly "stupid" money investing in Miami right now. Everyone's looking to scoop up any sort of core deals around Brickell or retail in South Beach because they feel they must, but Miami is the butt of so many jokes in the finance/real estate community. It's just an odd place with more than its fair share of problems, which for us end up being typified in its brutally cold skylines.

That "wall" in Sunny Isles is amazingly stupid to look at (FTR, we own an apartment complex in Sunny Isles, off the water). My perspective is influenced by the exact opposite situation here in SF - right next door to me a developer wants to put up the following:

http://www.socketsite.com/8%20Washinton%202013.jpg
http://www.socketsite.com/

http://www.socketsite.com/8%20Washin...2012-thumb.jpg
http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2...ent_as_pr.html

And because it would create a mere 136' "wall" along the waterfront, which is so public and treasured by all that nobody can even conceive of a private entity interfering with it, there is a HUGE push to not approve this. In fact the Democrat party has come out swinging against the proposal and there will be a ballot measure (basically this tiny thing will be put to vote).

So when I see a wall of exclusive 50 story Trump towers and such on a beach front, basically walling off the general public and reserving the beach for the elite Russians and Latins who live in those towers, it's a bit much. It really doesn't help that the vast majority of South FL is so poor and so lacking in great public/park space, which gets hogged by all these rich foreign millionaires along the beach and east of 95. It's almost insulting.

FTR, even though my view will be blocked by the proposal above, I am totally for it...it's not too much and preserves much of the Bay Club that occupies the site now (plus the design compliments my older towers next door).

Random SF skyline shot I took last weekend and a couple from 2 months ago:

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/a...pseebf120c.jpg

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps5494001f.jpg

http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps18a64198.jpg

QuantumX Jun 10, 2013 2:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simms3_redux (Post 6159085)
^^^Well, I know I'm one of the biggest culprits of what you term as Miami bashing.

Well, the term city bashing certainly wasn't invented by me, and this is all I've read of what you have to say!

I did notice you posted some San Francisco pics. I've lived there and I have no desire to live there again. I'm quite happy where I am!

miketoronto Jun 10, 2013 3:05 AM

Milano, Italy looking towards the Centro Direzionale di Milano, Milan's version of La Defense.
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6110/6...31fb491a_b.jpg
Photo by me.

Valyrian Steel Jun 10, 2013 3:46 AM

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7367/8...ca2c19f0_b.jpg
Perfect Storm by Matt Givot, on Flickr

Private Dick Jun 10, 2013 4:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simms3_redux (Post 6159085)
^^^Well, I know I'm one of the biggest culprits of what you term as Miami bashing.

What I think has happened is this: in the early 2000s through perhaps 2009, the amount of construction in South FL was unbelievable. People, especially on this forum, were very excited to watch the exponential increase in the skyline unfold. Unfortunately for Miami's sympathizers, pure "construction" only goes so far. People are generally interested in design, context, and the basis behind the construction, as well. Couple that with an oddly missing element on this forum from Miami - aside from you and your pictures, and a couple other occasional posters, there isn't much "robust" discussion on Miami as there are other major cities. Take Atlanta - which does not have the overall design or construction going on that Miami consistently has these days, there is still tons of robust discussion between dozens of active posters, and the discussions are typically quite informative and intellectual in nature. I've certainly bashed Atlanta, my adopted hometown previously, probably more than Miami, but I also try to add to that amazing conversation on their construction/city threads.

What I've heard in the real estate community is that there is so much incredibly "stupid" money investing in Miami right now. Everyone's looking to scoop up any sort of core deals around Brickell or retail in South Beach because they feel they must, but Miami is the butt of so many jokes in the finance/real estate community. It's just an odd place with more than its fair share of problems, which for us end up being typified in its brutally cold skylines.

That "wall" in Sunny Isles is amazingly stupid to look at (FTR, we own an apartment complex in Sunny Isles, off the water).

So when I see a wall of exclusive 50 story Trump towers and such on a beach front, basically walling off the general public and reserving the beach for the elite Russians and Latins who live in those towers, it's a bit much. It really doesn't help that the vast majority of South FL is so poor and so lacking in great public/park space, which gets hogged by all these rich foreign millionaires along the beach and east of 95. It's almost insulting.

Don't waste your time.

isaidso Jun 10, 2013 5:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Private Dick (Post 6158896)
500+ foot towers are not infill.

They are in some places.

Private Dick Jun 10, 2013 2:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isaidso (Post 6159208)
They are in some places.

Don't be an annoying nerd.

suburbanite Jun 10, 2013 4:21 PM

We're on a site where we primarily discuss building heights and population statistics, aren't we all nerds?

Private Dick Jun 10, 2013 4:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suburbanite (Post 6159547)
We're on a site where we primarily discuss building heights and population statistics, aren't we all nerds?

Nerds, yes. Chiming in with an out-of-context comment is annoying.

tech12 Jun 10, 2013 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simms3_redux (Post 6159085)

And because it would create a mere 136' "wall" along the waterfront, which is so public and treasured by all that nobody can even conceive of a private entity interfering with it, there is a HUGE push to not approve this. In fact the Democrat party has come out swinging against the proposal and there will be a ballot measure (basically this tiny thing will be put to vote).

You forgot to mention that the "huge" push to block that building isn't actually "huge". As in, it's just the result of a handful of ultra wealthy people gaming the system through their money/political connections, because they don't want to lose their views of the bay or their fancy tennis club.

The petition they started to get a ballot measure was based on lies and misinformation, claiming that the tiny building would create a "wall", that it would shade parks, block affordable housing, destroy sports fields, create massive traffic problems, etc. None of which is true. Then they got thousands of signatures from ignorant people in neighborhoods elsewhere in the city, based on those lies, which were all presented under the nice-sounding title of "no wall on the waterfront". And that's why it's now going to a vote. Half the money for the petition ($75,000) came from a single couple in a neighboring building that would lose their views if the new building goes up. Most SF residents have no idea at all about the project, and I have a feeling that most would support it, or at least be ambivalent, if they were actually supplied with the facts about it. And the developer is actually putting an opposing ballot measure up to defeat the NIMBY "no wall on the waterfront" ballot measure. It's a bunch of silly, expensive, bullshit, and I hope the NIMBYs lose out.

Anyways, here's another SF skyline shot:

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4033/4...751bddf9_b.jpg
by :munna on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/munna82/4707941221/

pdxtex Jun 10, 2013 10:17 PM

i think miami looks awesome. 500 ft mega towers on the beach? what not to like?

jd3189 Jun 11, 2013 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simms3_redux (Post 6159085)
^^^Well, I know I'm one of the biggest culprits of what you term as Miami bashing.

What I think has happened is this: in the early 2000s through perhaps 2009, the amount of construction in South FL was unbelievable. People, especially on this forum, were very excited to watch the exponential increase in the skyline unfold. Unfortunately for Miami's sympathizers, pure "construction" only goes so far. People are generally interested in design, context, and the basis behind the construction, as well. Couple that with an oddly missing element on this forum from Miami - aside from you and your pictures, and a couple other occasional posters, there isn't much "robust" discussion on Miami as there are other major cities. Take Atlanta - which does not have the overall design or construction going on that Miami consistently has these days, there is still tons of robust discussion between dozens of active posters, and the discussions are typically quite informative and intellectual in nature. I've certainly bashed Atlanta, my adopted hometown previously, probably more than Miami, but I also try to add to that amazing conversation on their construction/city threads.

I agree. The Miami construction and development thread seems to be filled with overly hopeful urbanites who believe the city is already up there with the likes of bigger global cities. Aside from QuantumX,brickell, and one other person aside from me most of the time, Miami is not taken very seriously when developments are presented, and I wish more forumers who lived in the area would outnumber those who are immature.

Quote:

What I've heard in the real estate community is that there is so much incredibly "stupid" money investing in Miami right now. Everyone's looking to scoop up any sort of core deals around Brickell or retail in South Beach because they feel they must, but Miami is the butt of so many jokes in the finance/real estate community. It's just an odd place with more than its fair share of problems, which for us end up being typified in its brutally cold skylines.
The area has been taken advantage of for many years. Like what was said before, South Florida is probably the closest the US has ever gotten to your typical tropical 3rd-world country. Poor,violent ethnic neighborhoods being contrasted with tall condos and private islands for the rich is very common here and developers have been ignoring this for many years. However, I personally think this may change soon. Aside from the constant highrise proposals being presented for Downtown and Brickell, general urban developments for other neighborhoods like Little Havana, Overtown, Liberty City, The Design District, and more should be considered for the middle class that could move here in the future. Miami Beach (particularly South Beach) should be seen as a model for the rest of the city to work with along with other great urban developments in Latin America, the Caribbean, Europe, and even in the US.

Quote:

That "wall" in Sunny Isles is amazingly stupid to look at (FTR, we own an apartment complex in Sunny Isles, off the water). My perspective is influenced by the exact opposite situation here in SF - right next door to me a developer wants to put up the following:
Agreed, and I guess that will have to change as well. But there will more opportunities in the future to recreate better waterfront developments.


Quote:

So when I see a wall of exclusive 50 story Trump towers and such on a beach front, basically walling off the general public and reserving the beach for the elite Russians and Latins who live in those towers, it's a bit much. It really doesn't help that the vast majority of South FL is so poor and so lacking in great public/park space, which gets hogged by all these rich foreign millionaires along the beach and east of 95. It's almost insulting.
Agreed. That mentality has to change soon. South Florida is not the same winter resort/ retirement center it once was. There's a growing young adult and immigrant population aside from the transplants who come from the northern US. There's too much potential being wasted in Miami, which I think could make it's nickname as the "gateway to Latin America" a clearer reality if the city's leaders wanted to. Anyways, this is extremely off-topic and might warrant another thread but I can't help but always wonder why Florida, with such a great location for international trade, never really made such an impact?

Mojeda101 Jun 11, 2013 1:38 AM

I swear, San Francisco is the New York of the west coast.

fflint Jun 11, 2013 1:41 AM

^Not that crap again.

Buckeye Native 001 Jun 11, 2013 3:49 AM

Whatever is wrong with San Francisco being the San Francisco of San Francisco? Or for that matter, Los Angeles being the Los Angeles of Los Angeles?

I ask this question repeatedly because so many of the discussions turn into worthless pissing matches: Is [your city] being the best [your city] it can be?

If the answer is yes, then what's the big fucking problem!?

And no, I'm not drunk or high. Just your average American idiot.

simms3_redux Jun 11, 2013 6:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd3189 (Post 6160190)
I agree.

Thanks for your response. I almost hijacked the thread (had to post some skyline pics to neutralize that fact), but this was good dialogue.

Urban Zombie Jun 12, 2013 2:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojeda101 (Post 6160226)
I swear, San Francisco is the New York of the west coast.

I've always thought of the west coast as the east coast of the west coast.

dc_denizen Jun 12, 2013 3:06 AM

http://www.freecodesource.com/album-...-Set-(Dig).jpg

http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/t/t...m-dead-set.jpg

BrandonJXN Jun 12, 2013 8:29 PM

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8449/8...caeb4378_h.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8449/8...caeb4378_h.jpg

jd3189 Jun 13, 2013 12:50 AM

Found a video of the LA skyline.

Video Link

atlantaguy Jun 13, 2013 2:58 AM

WOW, ThreeHundred!

Thanks for my new background. ;)

fflint Jun 13, 2013 4:43 AM

When was this taken? It looks like yesterday's sunset. I can't follow your link to find out who took it or when.

pwright1 Jun 14, 2013 8:19 AM

By me
 
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4124/5...785b5ae3_b.jpg

isaidso Jun 14, 2013 8:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Private Dick (Post 6159405)
Don't be an annoying nerd.

But that's what I do. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Private Dick (Post 6159607)
Nerds, yes. Chiming in with an out-of-context comment is annoying.

Just keeping the conversation honest. 500 ft may not be infill in Miami, but your blanket statement wasn't accurate either.


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Toronto by imcconac, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7453/8...49700234_b.jpg
what.we.have.done by jonathancastellino, on Flickr

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empire. by jonathancastellino, on Flickr

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perilously.spread by jonathancastellino, on Flickr


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