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ethereal_reality Nov 1, 2018 5:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 8364721)
If you look carefully, the "stripe" runs vertically past the top of his head,
making the foliage behind him a bit yellow. So what we are looking at
is a flaw in the photographic negative and/or print.
Here's a closer view with the stripe slightly enhanced:
https://i.postimg.cc/LshR6JYb/striped.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8364738)
Looks like the film got fogged there.

It's the Ghost of Blue Max. I'm outta here! :runaway:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/OMbbnD.jpg
This is actually the Red Baron wearing the Blue Max
Manfred Albrecht Freiherr von Richthofen




Needless to say, good eye Handsome Stranger.

SHERIFFPAUL Nov 1, 2018 5:21 PM

Guasti Cafe
 
Originally known as Homestyle Cafe,This is slated to be be torn down this year 2007 to make room for Ontario Airport Business Towers.


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...tOfWwJRmkxASHj

photo from flickriver.com

austlar1 Nov 1, 2018 6:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mstimc (Post 8363479)
I guess I'm missing something. Despite the references to "private baths", all the room look like they share a bathroom with at least one other room?

They probably locked one of the bathroom doors when the other room was sold with private bath. There seem to be two bathrooms and two toilets opening onto the hallway only that were probably available for occupants of rooms without baths.

Handsome Stranger Nov 1, 2018 8:10 PM

I'm beginning to think the Noirishers* need their own official Order of Merit.

(*or is it Noirishians? Noirishists? Noirishonians?)

riichkay Nov 1, 2018 8:56 PM

Forgot to post these yesterday...Vampira cruising around the city, 1954.


http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psqnkfnmjp.jpg



http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psjwvtzf4q.jpg



http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psqrl4ochj.jpg

Beaudry Nov 1, 2018 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 8363872)
1929 - The Guasti-Giulii Tire Tower, formerly at 1251 East 8th Street.


D and M Lunchroom, Where the sandwiches come in single and two ply?


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMX=0&DMY=0&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=512&DMY=0&DM

http://theoldmotor.com/wp-content/up...s1-600x572.jpg

Wow, I love the tire tower; went up in 1928 and was demolished in 1960. It's by Armand Monaco, who is mostly known for Italiante Villas like this one, but this Deco tower reminds one of Monaco's early version of the People's National Bank on Hill St (later designed in a different version by Walker & Eisen).

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1470/...56fbe1aa_o.pngfrom this post

Tourmaline Nov 1, 2018 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 6495734)





1934 - 7165 and 7161 Beverly Blvd - http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/43098/rec/1


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMX=0&DMY=0&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=512&DMY=0&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=0&DMY=512&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...512&DMY=512&DM



http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=0&DMY=512&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...512&DMY=512&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...=0&DMY=1024&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...12&DMY=1024&DM



http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...024&DMY=512&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...536&DMY=512&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...36&DMY=1024&DM



http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7...axiesonbev.jpghttp://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7...axiesonbev.jpg http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3771


http://mondette.com/rosewoodandmarte...oreGazing4.jpghttp://mondette.com/rosewoodandmarte...oreGazing4.jpg




http://www.christopheloiron.com/wp-c...OSTCARDweb.jpghttp://www.christopheloiron.com/wp-c...OSTCARDweb.jpg





Evidently, BRR's post concerned not one, but two separate purveyors of wine and beer, Colvin's and The Wine Barrel, "No1." It appears that there may have been as many as ten "Wine Barrel" stores, including 7161 Beverly Blvd. :previous" A quick browse of the '35 CD indicates listings for 8503 S. Vermont and 4301 W Pico. Other possible locations include 4418 S Central, 7529 Sunset Blvd., and 416 W 4th Street, Santa Ana.

In 1925, 7529 Sunset was a location for a Van De Kamp bakery. It later became an inexpensive "variety" store until the repeal of prohibition when the alcohol started to flow. At some point the location housed a drug store, a furniture store, a photo store and currently purveys of spiritual art objects. Next door is pizza and . . . beer and wine (Cheebos) Without referring to the permits, unless the current structure was rebuilt, it certainly look like the original structure has had a haircut or two, over the intervening years.


1934 - Wine Barrel # 9, 7529 Sunset Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMX=0&DMY=0&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=512&DMY=0&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=0&DMY=512&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...512&DMY=512&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...=0&DMY=1024&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...12&DMY=1024&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...ll170/id/55488


Signage declares that good wine is cheaper than beer. Unclear how this was determined unless the comparison was between barrel loads.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...24&DMY=9216&DM



http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...=0&DMY=4096&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...12&DMY=4096&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...=0&DMY=4608&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...12&DMY=4608&DM




1934 - Wine Barrel # 10, 416 West 4th Street, Santa Ana, CA,
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMX=0&DMY=0&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=512&DMY=0&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=0&DMY=512&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...512&DMY=512&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...ll170/id/55488




No. 9 used no frills lighting
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...Y=10240&DMTEXThttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...2&DMY=10240&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...Y=10752&DMTEXThttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...2&DMY=10752&DM


No 10 got the classy lighting fixtures
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...20&DMY=4608&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...32&DMY=4608&DM

Martin Pal Nov 1, 2018 11:17 PM

:previous:

I like those prices!

Martin Pal Nov 1, 2018 11:20 PM

.

A day late, but here's THE PUMPKIN PALACE:

http://wesclark.com/burbank/pumpkin_3.jpgDept. Water & Power

Caption: View showing the Pumpkin Palace located at 3611 Magnolia Boulevard near Hollywood Way, in Burbank. (1927.)


At some point it was called The Studio Club.
Not sure I'd want to tangle with that one owner.
https://waterandpower.org/B%20Histor...tudio_Club.jpgDept. Water & Power

From the site: The Pumpkin Building would wear many hats throughout its existence. It started out as at least two nightclubs in the 1920's (Pumpkin Palace and Studio Club), later a church called Valley Gospel, an inn called the Pumpkin Inn, a real estate office called Stan Summeril Real Estate, and later a hardware store (Magnolia Park Hardware).

Martin Pal Nov 1, 2018 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 8365035)
The lot became the Sunset-Orange Motel in 1949; which was demolished in January 1994.

I was in a vintage furnishings shop about twenty years ago and they had the neon sign from the Sunset-Orange. The guy selling it remarked "What's funny is, it used to be an in-n-out motel, now it's an In-n-Out."
___________________________________________________________________

:)

Thanks for finding that info Beaudry! Since the motel was there until 1994, I must have seen it, but have no recollection of it.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....1175qeAmaL.jpg

In its 45 years there was more than one owner. This particular incarnation of the place
(above postcard) used the Orange address as stated on the back:

Sunset-Orange Motel
Hollywood, California
1501 North Orange Drive, corner of 7000 Sunset Boulevard
---
Ultra Modern 24 unit motel - Air Conditioned - TV - Radios - Center of Hollywood

Tourmaline Nov 1, 2018 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8365525)

A day late, but here's THE PUMPKIN PALACE:

;) http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=29242

Tourmaline Nov 1, 2018 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8365522)
:previous:

I like those prices!

:cheers:

Until you actually sample the goods? Doesn't look like much thought went into climate control. On the other hand, it may have been a mild season. :shhh:

Scott Charles Nov 2, 2018 1:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 8365035)
The lot became the Sunset-Orange Motel in 1949; which was demolished in January 1994.

I was in a vintage furnishings shop about twenty years ago and they had the neon sign from the Sunset-Orange. The guy selling it remarked "What's funny is, it used to be an in-n-out motel, now it's an In-n-Out."

https://fedora.digitalcommonwealth.o...ess800/content

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1919/...1c3ffe89_b.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1911/...531e6c7a_b.jpg

(pix from ebay listings)

I also posted a bit about the Sunset Orange a few months ago: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=47493

ethereal_reality Nov 2, 2018 3:03 AM

mystery house on hilltop
 
Perhaps we've seen this before....but I don't recall seeing it before.
What caught my eye is the large, and impressive, house on the hill.

The description on the cabinet card is rather vague...
"Lincoln Heights near L.A. High School."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/5yvawv.jpg
OAC

If we have seen this before...refresh my memory. Who belongs to that house on the hill? [who built it?]



It's really quite unique; especially the mansard-like roof in the back.

Here's a closer-look.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/DgyUt4.jpg

for search purposes: Lincoln Heights near L.A. High School. C.C. Pierce

Mstimc Nov 2, 2018 4:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austlar1 (Post 8365137)
They probably locked one of the bathroom doors when the other room was sold with private bath. There seem to be two bathrooms and two toilets opening onto the hallway only that were probably available for occupants of rooms without baths.

Ah, good call. Kind of like musical chairs but with bathrooms!

ethereal_reality Nov 2, 2018 4:11 AM

Here's another photograph from the same group of cabinet cards.

We have probably seen this one before (a loooooong time ago), but I have a couple questions I'd like to ask. (of course ;))

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Rwy5ok.jpg
See it BIG here > > UC Berkeley/OAC L.A.'s first street-car

#1
Why is the horse in the cart. (or is it a donkey?)
& I just noticed the mane(s)...are there two horses? If so, are they BOTH in the cart..or just one?
It's really weird. It looks like two horse heads on one horse body)

(Is the horse/donkey getting new shoes?)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/Jpvxu8.jpg
detail / I don't think the donkey/horse has to be in a cart to get new shoes.

I'm not entirely sure what it says on the cart.


#2
Do you think we're good enough sleuths now to figure out the location? (the best clue, as far as I can see, is the doctor's name)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/BNeriT.jpg

I tried to find the location but was unsuccessful. Admittedly, it was a quick search.


I realize my #1 question turned into 5 sub-questions..
but whatcha gonna do...

BillinGlendaleCA Nov 2, 2018 5:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8365675)
Perhaps we've seen this before....but I don't recall seeing it before.
What caught my eye is the large, and impressive, house on the hill.

The description on the cabinet card is rather vague...
"Lincoln Heights near L.A. High School."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/5yvawv.jpg
OAC

If we have seen this before...refresh my memory. Who belongs to that house on the hill? [who built it?]



It's really quite unique; especially the mansard-like roof in the back.

Here's a closer-look.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/DgyUt4.jpg

for search purposes: Lincoln Heights near L.A. High School. C.C. Pierce

I think I may know where the house was...here's a 1927 aerial view of the area west of Lincoln High.
https://i.postimg.cc/FzgkQSxc/Mystery2018110101.pngvia Frame Finder

There is a large house in the circle that has elements that match ER's photo, however looking at the 1921 Baist map of the area shows no house:
https://i.postimg.cc/MK3VZ7Sb/Mystery2018110103.png1921 Baist

Now ER's photo is older than 1921 and there's a house, the aerial is 1927 and it shows a house with similar features. Here's the current view from Google Maps:
https://i.postimg.cc/zvjvQrJF/Mystery2018110102.pngGoogle Maps

I believe the photo was taken at Broadway and Gates looking at the house on the hill to the northeast. But the Baist Survey only shows small houses...my brain hurts.

(After seeing Flyingwedge's post...)

"Missed it by that much..."

Flyingwedge Nov 2, 2018 5:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8365675)
Perhaps we've seen this before....but I don't recall seeing it before.
What caught my eye is the large, and impressive, house on the hill.

The description on the cabinet card is rather vague...
"Lincoln Heights near L.A. High School."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/5yvawv.jpg
OAC

If we have seen this before...refresh my memory. Who belongs to that house on the hill? [who built it?]



It's really quite unique; especially the mansard-like roof in the back.

Here's a closer-look.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/DgyUt4.jpg


If I'm interpreting the information on that photo at oldhomesoflosangeles correctly, the house was built by the Baron and Baroness Rogniat, and it burned in 1894.

William Woolwine then built a home on the property, before the original Lincoln HS campus subsequently was built on the site, now the NE corner of North Broadway
and Lincoln Park Avenue.

__________

I just found another view of the Rogniat home (at right), c. 1890. The information with this photo says the Rogniat home burned May 18, 1891*:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psme5goybq.jpg

ebay


* The fire was actually on the 17th.

Noir_Noir Nov 2, 2018 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8365739)
Here's another photograph from the same group of cabinet cards.

We have probably seen this one before (a loooooong time ago), but I have a couple questions I'd like to ask. (of course ;))

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Rwy5ok.jpg
See it BIG here > > UC Berkeley/OAC L.A.'s first street-car



I'm not entirely sure what it says on the cart.



Do you think we're good enough sleuths now to figure out the location? (the best clue, as far as I can see, is the doctor's name)



I tried to find the location but was unsuccessful. Admittedly, it was a quick search.


A. E. CRONENWETT

LEADING JEWELLER

MONROVIA USA



A possible Doctor Percival location.

https://i.imgur.com/ZiGPxv8.jpg
rescarta.lapl.org


Although the date for the listing is later, it's in the right vicinity for the first horse drawn street railway.

"On July 1, 1874, the modest, horse-drawn cars of the Spring and Sixth Street Railroad became the first streetcars to roll down Los Angeles streets. Founded by lawyer Robert M. Widney, the Spring & Sixth operated a regular schedule, running cars hourly on weekdays between 6:30 a.m. and 10 p.m. For a ten-cent fare, passengers could ride the one-and-a-half-mile route from the intersection of Temple and Spring south to Sixth, and then west to Figueroa."

kcet.org

:shrug:

Lwize Nov 2, 2018 1:40 PM

Twilight over Los Angeles.

Shot in 8K (4320P).

My video card can barely handle 4K (2160P) and can only display 1080P.

Good luck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb1NvPIhssk


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