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NYguy May 2, 2020 12:34 AM

NEW YORK | 70 Hudson Yards (517 West 35th St ) | FT | FLOORS
 
The office tower of the 2 tower development:


https://therealdeal.com/2017/02/01/s...n-yards-sites/

Spitzer, Related team up to develop 1.4M sf Hudson Yards sites
Project would include residential and large office component



https://s14.therealdeal.com/trd/up/2...ds-Spitzer.jpg


February 01, 2017
By Rich Bockmann


Quote:

Eliot Spitzer and the Related Companies are joining forces to build a 1.4 million-square-foot apartment-and-office development on a pair of adjacent sites they own in Hudson Yards, The Real Deal has learned.

The partnership doesn’t simply place the former governor and top executives from Related back at the negotiating table – Spitzer’s administration in Albany worked with the firm and Vornado Realty Trust a decade ago on the Moynihan Station project – it also helps them potentially front-load the development’s residential portion at a time when there’s still heaps of competition for office tenants on the Far West Side.

Representatives for Spitzer declined to comment on the partnership, while Related did not immediately return a request for comment.

Related signed a contract in September 2013 to buy its site at 517 West 34th Street for an undisclosed price, while Spitzer paid $123 million to assemble his site next door, records show.

The partners have asked the city for permission to split the project into two phases. In addition, they’re asking the city for special permission to build all 341,000-square-feet of residential space in the first phase. Under existing zoning conditions, they would only be able to build up to 100,000 square feet of residential space in the first phase.

Phase one would start with what the developers are calling the “Tenth Avenue Parcel between West 35th and West 36th Streets,” where they wish to build a 415,000-square foot, mixed-use building with 400 apartments set atop nearly 75,000 square feet of office and retail space.

Phase two, which would rise directly next door on the “Hudson Boulevard Parcel,” would see the construction of a roughly 950,000-square-foot office tower overlooking Hudson Boulevard Park.

Their proposed development sits in an area of the Far West Side that the city rezoned in 2005 when it paved the way for Related’s Hudson Yards megaproject, which is now rising a few blocks south over the Metropolitan Transportation Authority’s rail yards.

City planners zoned the blocks north of 34th Street where the Spitzer and Related properties sit to encourage developers to build large, mixed-use projects. But the city officials wanted to keep an emphasis on commercial use in that stretch of the Far West Side, so they included a stipulation that a developer could only build residential units once all of the floor-to-area ratio designated for commercial space on a site was exhausted.

But the city left open a back door in case the market became oversaturated with office space. It allowed developers with large sites – those with a lot area of at least 69,000 square feet – to build their residential portions first, so long as the final project met the required ratio for residential-to-commercial square footage.

Spitzer and Related’s combined sites, however, don’t meet the mark. The sites combine for a lot area of just 56,793 square feet. Under the current zoning rules for lots that size, even if the developers phased their projects they would have to stick to the site’s residential-to-commercial ratio. Under that guideline, their 415,000-square-foot building would be allowed to have only about 100,000 square feet of residential in phase one, not the full 341,000 square feet they’re asking the city to green-light.

In their application to the city, Related argued that there’s already a “substantial” amount of commercial development underway or planned in the Hudson Yards district, and they wanted the “flexibility” to meet the demand for residential housing first.

Spitzer and Related aren’t the only developers who would rather focus on residential use in the Far West Side.

Silverstein Properties is considering splitting its 1.6 million-square-foot development site several blocks north at 11th Avenue between West 40th and 41st streets into residential and commercial phases. Under that proposal, the residential component would be built first. That site, however, lies outside the Hudson Yards district and is subject to its own unique zoning conditions.

NYguy May 2, 2020 12:35 AM

https://therealdeal.com/2019/06/12/g...n-yards-tower/

Golden years: Spitzer, Related bringing senior housing to Hudson Yards tower
Developers received permission in 2017 to build residential portion before offices



https://s11.therealdeal.com/trd/up/2...ds-650x405.jpg


By Kevin Sun
June 12, 2019


Quote:

The next new development to ride Manhattan’s senior housing wave could soon be coming to Hudson Yards.

Eliot Spitzer and the Related Companies’ mixed-used project at 451 10th Avenue is now set to include 126 “long-term care facility dwelling units” across the fifth through 12th floors, according to plans pre-filed with the city’s Department of Buildings on Friday. The 44-story tower will also contain roughly 400 apartments on its upper floors, in line with the developers’ previously-disclosed plans for the site, which represent the first phase of an apartment-and-office development totaling 1.4 million square feet.

Quote:

Though Spitzer was originally reported to be planning a boutique office building and hotel on his parcels, the partnership with Related evidently led to a change in plans. In May 2017, the partners received permission from the city to split the project into two phases, and to build all 341,000 square feet of residential space first, despite local zoning rules that prioritize the development of commercial space.

Plans for the second phase of the development, a roughly 950,000-square-foot office tower overlooking Hudson Boulevard Park, have yet to be filed with the DOB.


Zapatan May 2, 2020 12:44 AM

Nice. With 950k SF I take it it will be well taller than the apartment counterpart?

NYguy May 2, 2020 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zapatan (Post 8910320)
Nice. With 950k SF I take it it will be well taller than the apartment counterpart?

Should be at least in the 700 - 800 footer range.


The office tower would be on the western side (left) of the block.



https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...CIWtLHo.d1.JPG

NYguy May 9, 2020 1:41 AM

https://zap.planning.nyc.gov/projects/P2014M0440

May 8, 2020

Quote:

Applicant Team:

511 WEST 35TH ST., LLC. (Primary Applicant)
511 WEST 35TH ST., LLC. (Primary Contact)


Project Brief:

This is a private application by 511 West 35th Street LLC for a Hudson Yards District Improvement Bonus Chair Certification pursuant to Section 93-31 for a property located at 511 West 35th Street in the Hudson Yards neighborhood, Community District 4, Manhattan.


NYguy Aug 9, 2020 8:11 PM

Not sure if this is the winning design.



https://ferrisarch.com/70-hudson-yards.html


70 Hudson Yards


Quote:

70 Hudson Yards is a new high rise building north of Hudson Yards proper. As part of the new phase, 70 is intended to be the first tower in New York City to be considered a zero-carbon emission building.

The building folds and shifts subtly throughout the building, providing views and outdoor spaces for the office tenants. The stone façade acts similarly as the building, shifting light and shadow throughout the form.

On the lower floors of the building, the façade is held off three feet from the glassy exterior wall on a metal chassis, eroding the mass of the building as it lands on the ground. A glassy storefront meets the ground at the lobby entrance, inviting users to enter the ground and mezzanine amenity floors which will be filled with cafe and retail uses.



https://ferrisarch.com/assets/compon...b7c7c5075a.jpg



https://ferrisarch.com/assets/compon...b7c7c5075a.jpg



https://ferrisarch.com/assets/compon...b7c7c5075a.jpg



https://ferrisarch.com/assets/compon...b7c7c5075a.jpg



https://ferrisarch.com/assets/compon...b7c7c5075a.jpg



https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...ez27Ioy.r3.jpg



https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...sLVt6lq.r4.jpg



https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...5zKJnKK.r5.jpg

Hudson11 Aug 9, 2020 9:00 PM

Ferris isn't known for his highrise architecture but i'd be delighted if that's the office design. I wouldn't bet on it though, the residential tower on this plot is already under construction and we still haven't seen renderings of that yet. Of course, that doesn't mean that this isn't it.

iiConTr0v3rSYx Aug 9, 2020 9:18 PM

Looks like a stubby 35 Hudson Yards.

chris08876 Aug 9, 2020 9:54 PM

Counted like 45/46 floors give or take 1 or 2. The eyes start to melt looking at that rendering when counting. Just gonna take a guess and say this is between 670 and 700 ft.

NYguy Aug 9, 2020 11:31 PM

Sounds about right. Really hard to grasp from that rendering. Could be a design that didn’t make it, but the website says in progress. Still, hard to think that Related wouldn’t go with one of the usuals, like KPF. This design reminds me of 35 Hudson.

Hudson11 Aug 10, 2020 1:17 AM

this tower is Hudson 36 across the street. It is 418ft tall. Additionally, the first phase can be seen depicted behind at 583'. I would imagine this design is around 800ft.

https://i.imgur.com/GftBIAB.png

chris08876 Aug 10, 2020 1:40 AM

I wonder whats up with this guy.

The Weeknd became translucent. Blinding lights on 99 Hudson crown.

https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/busin...1cebcfa96.jpeg

Lots of shady stuff going on... :sly:

NYguy Aug 10, 2020 2:51 PM

^ This guy is obviously up to no good. Or his wife left him. Bad news either way.


https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...nEr17QN.g1.JPG



https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...0cfP20.g1b.jpg




Quote:

Originally Posted by Hudson11 (Post 9005804)
this tower is Hudson 36 across the street. It is 418ft tall. Additionally, the first phase can be seen depicted behind at 583'. I would imagine this design is around 800ft.

https://i.imgur.com/GftBIAB.png


Also, it almost goes to the head of the Spiral, a 1,000 ft building. So yeah, maybe 800 ft or so. I still have doubts about this being the final design, but maybe.

Prezrezc Aug 10, 2020 4:56 PM

re NYGuy's zoom-in guy: I guess Tony Shahloub digs photo Bombs......

Busy Bee Aug 10, 2020 5:07 PM

One person's Tony Shalhoub is anothers Jason Segal.

He's totally peeing in the bushes. So NYC.

ESysyn Aug 10, 2020 10:58 PM

If that is going to be the final design, I would not mind.

jbermingham123 Aug 11, 2020 1:00 AM

delete

NYguy Aug 11, 2020 1:22 AM

Feels very 35ish to me...


https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...5zKJnKK.r5.jpg

https://www.som.com/FILE/31895/35-hu...ve-burk_02.jpg
https://www.som.com/projects/35_huds...al_engineering

chris08876 Aug 11, 2020 3:34 AM

Complements its surroundings. Doesn't deviate too too much, which is good. Almost airs on the side of safe in a way.

citybooster Aug 11, 2020 4:24 AM

^True, but it works and doesn't thankfully stink. It's safe but nicely functional, not too bland. For this area of development there wasn't going to be major deviation from the whole. But just enough to render a positive impression if that's the choice.


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