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odinthor Jul 31, 2016 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7517105)
UCLA identifies this photo as looking south on New High Street at the back of the (1850s) city jail, with the team of oxen
at right heading up (west) Franklin toward Fort Street. But I compared the UCLA pic to the c. 1869 Rendall panorama at
USC, and I eventually figured out that this undated UCLA photo looks south on New High toward Temple, not Franklin,
which was one block south.

The Temple Clocktower Courthouse is at the top center. Just to the left of the oxen -- which are on Temple, not Franklin --
there is a two-story building with what appears to be an angled drainpipe on its west wall, just below the roof:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...w.jpg~original
UCLA


In the east-facing section of the Rendall photo below, 18 is New High Street, 8 is St. Athanasius Church on the SW corner
of New High and Temple Streets, 16 is the southern part of the Temple Block, and 20 is the Temple Clocktower Courthouse.
Number 12 is the Allen Block, on the SW corner of Spring and Temple, with that same angled drainpipe on its west wall:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...l.jpg~original
CHS-7179 @ USCDL

Splendid sleuthing, Flyingwedge!--and the house with prominent window frames, visible in both pix, bears out your thoughts. Views of any part of New High St. north of Temple, in any era, are pretty uncommon.

HossC Aug 1, 2016 11:44 AM

Here's a noirish tale I found in an LAPL picture description. The title is "Rattlesnake bandit" apartment building.
"In August of 1933, 19-year-old Burmah White, a hairdresser and former Santa Ana High School student, and her husband of less than one week, twenty-eight year old Thomas White, an ex-con, spent their honeymoon on a crime spree. The couple perpetrated ten stick-ups, seven in a single evening; but the worst of their crimes was the shooting of a popular elementary school teacher, Cora Withington, and a former publisher, Crombie Allen, who was teaching her how to drive his new car. They were stopped at a light when a car driven by a young blonde woman pulled up alongside them, and a man brandishing a gun jumped out of the vehicle. The bandit pointed his weapon at Withington's head and said, "Shell out, sweetheart..." Just as Withington and Allen were handing over their valuables there was a gunshot - and it tore through Miss Withington's left eye, came out near the right eye and ripped a hole in Allen's neck. Despite his injury, Allen memorized the license plate number of the bandit's car. Both victims survived their wounds, but Allen was permanently blinded. White's lack of remorse and abrasive demeanor were great fodder for the press, but earned the young widow a guilty conviction on eleven felony counts, and she was sentenced to a term of from 30 years to life. She began serving her time at San Quentin, but was ultimately transferred to the Women's Prison at Tehachapi where, in 1935, Aggie Underwood interviewed her and a few of the other inmates for a multi-part series on women in prison. Underwood noted that her attitude had completely changed and White even wrote an open letter to young women entitled "Crime Never Pays." White was denied parole a few times before she was discharged on December 1, 1941. She'd served less than eight years for her part in the 1933 crime spree. Upon her release, White vanished from public view."
The summary gives the address: "Rear of apartment building at 236 So. Coronado Street, where Thomas and Burmah White lived; he on the 3rd floor and she on the ground floor. Photograph dated September 6, 1933."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...aDelMonte1.jpg
LAPL

The description with the picture above did leave me wondering what became of Thomas White. I think this picture answers the question.
Photograph caption dated September 7, 1933 reads, "Here is the end of the trail for Thomas N. White, described by police as the 'rattlesnake' bandit, who shot down his helpless victims 'for no reason at all.' This photo shows his body in the shadowy hallway of a South Coronado Street apartment house where he was felled by two straight shooting police officers, Detective Lieutenants Arthur Bergeron and B. G. Anderson. White fired first, but as Bergeron said: 'He turned yellow and missed us.'" This is the apartment building at 236 So. Coronado Street.
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...aDelMonte2.jpg
LAPL

A couple of days later and Mr White's middle initial has changed. As well as showing us Thomas White's body, this picture also gives us a look at Burmah White.
Photograph caption dated September 9, 1933 reads, "This photo shows the cold-eyed blonde viewing bullet-riddled body of Thomas D. White, her husband of five days, who was trapped and killed by detectives last Wednesday after a 2-night reign of terror. With her are her attorney, Donald Mackay, at left, and Detective Lieut. Leroy Sanderson. She haughtily walked into the morgue and posed with icy indifference, then like an actress going into a 'sob scene' she managed to sniffle a bit." Upon his death, White was taken to Edwards Bros. Colonial Mortuary, located at 1000 Venice Boulevard.
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...aDelMonte3.jpg
LAPL

Regarding who was injured, the record is set straight with this picture. I'm assuming that "20-night reign of terror" is a typo, as the description above says "2-night reign of terror".
Photograph caption dated September 9, 1933 reads, "In this picture the body of White, whose 20-night reign of terror was ended by two police bullets, is being viewed by a group of robbery victims in an attempted identification. Many of them recognized him. Yesterday Crombie Allen, publisher, who was wounded at the same time the rughless bandit blinded Cora Withington, school teacher, said: 'Yes, that is the man. It serves him right.' As a result District Attorney Fitts, convinced that the evidence is positive, is preparing to mete out swift justice to White's alleged 'moll.'" Here White lies in state at Edwards Bros. Colonial Mortuary, located at 1000 Venice Boulevard.
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...aDelMonte4.jpg
LAPL

I'm not going to overload you with pictures, but LAPL has a couple of dozen photos of Burmah White (née Adams) on trial and in jail. It even has a couple of her as a brunette from a year earlier. You'll also find pictures of the murder weapon with bullets, some of victims, a reconstruction of the hold-up, and Thomas White while he was alive.

Here's the back of 236 S Coronado Street looking remakably similar today.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...aDelMonte5.jpg
GSV

The building records give a build date of 1927 for the 100-room 236 S Coronado Street. The CDs show that at the time of the Whites' crime spree it was known as the Casa Del Monte Apartments.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...aDelMonte6.jpg
GSV

GaylordWilshire Aug 1, 2016 5:48 PM

:previous:


236 South Coronado seems to have had more than its fair share of noirish happenings... and it looks it might have had its name changed after the White story...


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0...6%2BPM.bmp.jpg


A few more items of interest:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-h...1%2BPM.bmp.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-R...7%2BPM.bmp.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-B...5%2BPM.bmp.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1...5%2BPM.bmp.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-s...1%2BPM.bmp.jpg
LAT 12-24-29/10-27-31/7-12-36/12-23-41/6-21-46

oldstuff Aug 1, 2016 6:32 PM

Re : The radio station. There was an article in the Daily Breeze, dated April 26, 2012, which referred to an article run in the LA Times on April 15, 1922 concerning KHJ radio. It said that KHJ was one of the oldest radio stations in LA, and that it was owned by the Times and had to share a frequency with KFI, which was owned by Earle C. Anthony. They noted that they both went on the air in April of 1922. That article refers to KFI being located at 1000 Hope Street. KFI first broadcast on Easter Sunday 1922. KHJ initially transmitted from atop the Times building.

Phil-AFN Aug 1, 2016 7:01 PM

Hollywood Casket Co.
 
Interesting screen still from "Bodyguard", 1948 RKO film starring tough guy Lawrence Tierney with the Hollywood Casket Company and the Yellow Cab Co. in the background. I could not find much information or an address for Hollywood Casket Co. but a website sells their old stock certificates. The location looks to be several blocks south of the Hollywood Hills.

https://im1.shutterfly.com/ng/servic...077332/enhance

https://im1.shutterfly.com/ng/servic...077292/enhance
scripophily.net

Another interesting aspect to the scene is the spiffy 1948 Chrysler Town and Country woody that Tierney drives.

https://im1.shutterfly.com/ng/servic...077242/enhance
Bodyguard

https://im1.shutterfly.com/ng/servic...077258/enhance
BoldRide

GaylordWilshire Aug 1, 2016 7:26 PM

:previous:


The Hollywood Casket Company was at 1024 N. Orange...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7...4%2BPM.bmp.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U...8%2BPM.bmp.jpg


Looks like the building above Tierney's T&C and the Ford cop car was on the NE corner of Orange & Romaine and is now a parking lot. The casket building is still there, with some deco detailing. Assume the film scenes were shot right outside the studio, although I didn't look up production info for "Bodyguard" to find out what studio did it.

oldstuff Aug 1, 2016 7:36 PM

Re: the first Radio church. There is a photo on E-Bay which shows the sign clearly. It has a man on the railing of the porch pointing to the sign which says "First Radio Church"

HossC Aug 1, 2016 8:02 PM

:previous:

Here's the picture.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...dioChurch1.jpg

It also comes with this newspaper clipping on the reverse which mentions an address at Silver Lake and Lake View Avenues. I'll have to see if the house is still standing.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...dioChurch2.jpg

Both from eBay

HossC Aug 1, 2016 8:41 PM

I know that these Julius Shulman pictures show Barker Bros' store in Santa Monica, but I couldn't find an address. Is the building still standing? This is "Job 449: Barker Brothers (Santa Monica, Calif.), 1949".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

The other shot shows a close-up of the entrance, but I can't even see a street number.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Both from Getty Research Institute

GaylordWilshire Aug 1, 2016 10:25 PM

:previous:

Hoss-- Barker Bros was at 209 Wilshire... assuming this is that store... don't go look, it'll just make you sad.

ethereal_reality Aug 2, 2016 3:56 PM

The sign!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/MNssUV.jpg
eBay
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 7518639)
Re: the first Radio church. There is a photo on E-Bay which shows the sign clearly. It has a man on the railing of the porch pointing to the sign
which says "First Radio Church"

:previous: Great find oldstuff! -thanks for your efforts in solving the mystery.:)

HossC wrote:
"It also comes with this newspaper clipping on the reverse which mentions an address at Silver Lake and Lake View Avenues."

I've been snooping around in the area but Silver Lake Blvd. doesn't intersect with Lake View Avenue, so it's been rather difficult finding anything
relevant to the old eBay photos. (it appears Lake View Avenue becomes India Street at some unspecific point)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/SUdjFq.jpg
Google_Earth

Next, I thought I'd hunt for the major power-line that appears in the first "Radio Church' photograph...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/aENt8r.jpg
eBay

but the nearest power-lines I could find in the area are over toward the Los Angeles River. -so that was pretty much a dead-end.
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ethereal_reality Aug 2, 2016 4:41 PM

Last week I found a couple of interesting negatives of Pershing Square dated July 10, 1966.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/iI1HiH.jpg
eBay

look at that measly haircut place (waste of a prime location facing Pershing SQ)


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/BIrKzR.jpg
eBay

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ethereal_reality Aug 2, 2016 7:47 PM

'mystery' location

Original Negative "Pacific Electric Engine 1615 + Caboose, Long Beach July 24, 1949."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/H3GckQ.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/orig-1949-2-...wAAOSwqfNXnohu


If anyone can read the name of the oil company on the tank please let me know.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/PDbYnI.jpg
detail





And as you can see from the sign, there's a cafe over in this general area, below the Mobil Gas Pegasus.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/hykLE6.jpg
detail

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written on the negative sleeve
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...921/fPsT8m.jpg

Phil-AFN Aug 2, 2016 8:02 PM

Romaine St.
 
Right on the location. It makes sense inasmuch as Howard Hughes owned RKO at the time. His headquarters building is located on the Southwest corner of Romaine and Orange. It was used for "Cry Danger" in 1951 another RKO film.


Rambler with Dick Powell and Rhonda Fleming rounds the corner from Orange onto westbound Romaine. The large natural gas storage tank on Formosa St is visible.
https://im1.shutterfly.com/ng/servic...166300/enhance
RKO

Hughes' office building was used as the supposed office where Fleming works.
https://im1.shutterfly.com/ng/servic...166176/enhance
RKO

Hughes former headquarters today.
https://im1.shutterfly.com/ng/servic...166304/enhance
GSV

CityBoyDoug Aug 2, 2016 9:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7517660)
I found this color slide in an old file of mine and I believe it might be new to NLA.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/2LK38q.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/vokoba...n/photostream/

I'm not sure what is built into-the-wall over there on the right----->....a computer?......wall safe?.....television?......Radar-Range?;)




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ER Here's a more direct view of the TV on the right side wall. I guess having an installed-in-wall TV was considered cool in 1970. Anyway it is an outstanding macho man office.

Is the outside view rear-projection? Matte work is usually a painting.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pskpepfhhv.jpg
MGM studio

ethereal_reality Aug 2, 2016 10:00 PM

:previous: Excellent find CityBoyDoug! also interesting is the shape of the edge of the blue wall.

& thanks for the information on the Eames chair.

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GaylordWilshire Aug 2, 2016 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7519323)
The sign!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/MNssUV.jpg
eBay

:previous: Great find oldstuff! -thanks for your efforts in solving the mystery.:)

HossC wrote:
"It also comes with this newspaper clipping on the reverse which mentions an address at Silver Lake and Lake View Avenues."

I've been snooping around in the area but Silver Lake Blvd. doesn't intersect with Lake View Avenue, so it's been rather difficult finding anything
relevant to the old eBay photos. (it appears Lake View Avenue becomes India Street at some unspecific point)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/SUdjFq.jpg
Google_Earth

From the Times, Feb 28, 1925
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-b...9%2BPM.bmp.jpg


Well, the church went missing...sort of.

None of the directions in this item make much sense to me-- Wilson Foster is listed at 2521 Silver Lake Court in the 25CD... the only Silver Lake Court I've found is one that's the subject of stair walks--

http://climbingla.blogspot.com/2010/...ake-court.html

https://lifeabsorbed.com/2012/09/19/...er-lake-court/


Couldn't find a map of the Court--- maybe you can, ER.

HenryHuntington Aug 2, 2016 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7519634)
'mystery' location

Original Negative "Pacific Electric Engine 1615 + Caboose, Long Beach July 24, 1949."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/H3GckQ.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/orig-1949-2-...wAAOSwqfNXnohu


If anyone can read the name of the oil company on the tank please let me know.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/PDbYnI.jpg
detail





And as you can see from the sign, there's a cafe over in this general area, below the Mobil Gas Pegasus.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/hykLE6.jpg
detail

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written on the negative sleeve
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...921/fPsT8m.jpg

If anyone can read the name of the oil company on the tank please let me know.

*******

The first line reads "Hamarson Oil Co." I'm mostly guessing that the second line reads "Long Beach".

I found a couple of Google hits for Hamarson Oil, the more promising one from the Long Beach Independent Press-Telegram from June 14, 1953. If anyone has a newspapers.com subscription, feel free to explore. At least we've verified that the name on the tank is plausible.

The sign on the building might read "B.F. Goodrich".

I suspect that the photo was taken along PE's Daisy Ave. line, which provided a freight-only entrance into Long Beach. Most of this line was abandoned by late 1945, but the segment from Fairbanks Yard (south of Anaheim St.) to Pacific Coast Highway remained in service as of the date of the photo.

Today, the neighborhood along that stretch of Daisy Ave. is light industrial, with most structures post-dating the photo, and no sign of the oil tanks. (However, there's a quasi-moderne office building at 1645 Daisy if anyone wants a look.) If I were to climb even further out on this limb, I'd guess that the Mobil/Goodrich dealer-cum-cafe would've been located on either PCH or (more probably) Anaheim St.

HossC Aug 2, 2016 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 7519774)

Well, the church went missing...sort of.

None of the directions in this item make much sense to me-- Wilson Foster is listed at 2521 Silver Lake Court in the 25CD... the only Silver Lake Court I've found is one that's the subject of stair walks--

http://climbingla.blogspot.com/2010/...ake-court.html

https://lifeabsorbed.com/2012/09/19/...er-lake-court/

Couldn't find a map of the Court--- maybe you can, ER.

Wilson Foster's address is listed as 2521 Foster Place is earlier CDs. This apparently became Silver Lake Court. It still didn't help me to find radio station! While I was checking out the area in the Googlemobile, I found the stairs that GW mentions above. One flight now has this statue, reminiscent of the Easter Island heads, at its base. Amusingly, Google blurs the face in the longer views.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...verLakeAv1.jpg
GSV

HossC Aug 2, 2016 10:44 PM

Thanks for locating Barker Bros in Santa Monica, GW, and also for the follow-up on 236 S Coronado Street.


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If anyone's after some hardware in the Long Beach area, and can make it back to 1949, I have a couple of choices for you. Both are courtesy of Julius Shulman. The first is "Job 424: Howard's Hardware (Long Beach, Calif.), 1949".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

A slightly different angle.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Both from Getty Research Institute

The 1951/1952 Long Beach CD lists the Howard Hardware Co at 4134 Orange Avenue. Could this building have been a 1949 hardware store?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
GSV

Your second choice is Dooley's Hardware. This is "Job 415: Dooley's Hardware, 1949".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

Getty Research Institute

There's no location with this picture, but the same Long Beach CD lists Dooley's Hardware Mart at 5075 Long Beach Boulevard. That's now the address of the Dooley Elementary School. From schoolloop.com:
Dooley Elementary School opened its doors for the first time to students on September 5th, 2007!

The campus is as beautiful as ever. The construction is set on approximately five acres of land, formerly the home of Dooley's Hardware Mart. The school is located at the intersecting Long Beach and Del Amo Boulevards. More than fifty state of the art classrooms are laid out for up to 1,200 students taught by talented and highly qualified teachers.
Does anyone have an exterior picture of the hardware store?


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