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CaliNative Sep 23, 2020 3:01 AM

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ethereal_reality Sep 23, 2020 3:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 9050515)
Or a "3"?

How did I not see that as a 3 :duh It's the name of the damn place



hmmm. . I wonder what the circle in the top left hand corner of Hoss's aerial could be?


A big ol' vat of gin?

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BillinGlendaleCA Sep 23, 2020 5:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9050628)


I wonder what the circle in the top left hand corner of Hoss's aerial could be?

Alian landing zone.:cool:

transitfan Sep 23, 2020 2:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9048787)
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Here's one more.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/kA5F39.jpg
eBay


cheerio gifts - dept. store



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Love the 1961 Buick LeSabre in the pic (unless that was an Invicta).

My parents first car was a '61 LeSabre (but black instead of white).

ethereal_reality Sep 23, 2020 4:55 PM

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re: Three G Distillery / Lockheed Manufacturing Site, Burbank.

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Originally Posted by HossC

The image is a detail from a 1938 aerial view.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/nqDCOe.jpg

:previous: Great find, Hoss. When I first happened upon the eBay photo of the 3 G Distillery I thought it was mislabeled.






But now I find myself confused:...The following quote is from an article at KCET ..."Lockheed opened its operations in February 1928 with 50 employees."....... 1928! quelle surprise


and this aerial, from the same article, is dated January 1, 1928.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/z5SHKx.jpg
KCET


The article implies this is the early Lockheed Plant. (there is no mention of the distillery)

So are we looking at the 3 G Distillery or the Lockheed Plant? :shrug:






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ethereal_reality Sep 23, 2020 6:36 PM

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Here's an amazing cabinet card just listed on eBay

I'm going to place the description of the photograph below the image to see if anyone can guess the occupation of the three gentlemen....Good luck!


. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Frank Merriweather. . . . . . . .T. W. Jones. . . . . . . .Dad

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/bfaw5J.jpg
eBay







. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ."Operating table in Veterinary Hospital - About 651 So. Broadway"...1900 - 1904.




The reverse.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/a3bfnZ.jpg



This is an amazingly rare find. Let's try to dig up some information about the hospital and the three men!

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HossC Sep 23, 2020 6:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9051139)

But now I find myself confused:...The following quote is from an article at KCET ..."Lockheed opened its operations in February 1928 with 50 employees."....... 1928! quelle surprise

and this aerial, from the same article, is dated January 1, 1928.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/z5SHKx.jpg
KCET


The article implies this is the early Lockheed Plant. (there is no mention of the distillery)

So are we looking at the 3 G Distillery or the Lockheed Plant? :shrug:

Here's a wider view of the 1928 aerial that KCET used (full resolution at link below the image). I've marked the future site of the distillery with the red box. The first Lockheed buildings were a few blocks to the south-east. The diamond-shaped park in the center at the bottom is still there - it's now known as Vickroy Park.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
mil.library.ucsb.edu

Ten years later, this is a wider view from the 1938 aerial that I posted yesterday. On the left is an early layout of what-is-now Hollywood Burbank Airport. At the time it would've been the Union Air Terminal. I can only see one plane there. There's also a drive-in theater below the distillery, with a whole block to itself. It survived until at least 1972, but was gone by 1977.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
mil.library.ucsb.edu

BillinGlendaleCA Sep 23, 2020 6:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9051139)
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re: Three G Distillery / Lockheed Manufacturing Site, Burbank.


:previous: Great find, Hoss. When I first happened upon the eBay photo of the 3 G Distillery I thought it was mislabeled.






But now I find myself confused:...The following quote is from an article at KCET ..."Lockheed opened its operations in February 1928 with 50 employees."....... 1928! quelle surprise


and this aerial, from the same article, is dated January 1, 1928.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/z5SHKx.jpg
KCET


The article implies this is the early Lockheed Plant. (there is no mention of the distillery)

So are we looking at the 3 G Distillery or the Lockheed Plant? :shrug:






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The distillery is about a mile to the northwest. Empire is the street at the top of your photo.

https://i.postimg.cc/Gmtk4S3w/Screen...-Annotated.jpg

Martin Pal Sep 23, 2020 8:24 PM

:previous:

Right, E_R's link has the photo caption: An aerial view of Burbank, between Buena Vista Street (left) and the intersection of Burbank Boulevard, Victory Boulevard and Victory Place (right).

This Thomas Guide Map of Lockheed after WWII shows how the area grew. Where it says "To Palmdale" on this map is where the Distillery/Lockheed P-38 addition was located.

https://i.imgur.com/rs7Rsi1.pngMsFLights

For a larger version click on the above photo.

Lwize Sep 24, 2020 12:57 AM

Video Link

JimCraig Sep 24, 2020 1:15 AM

Great film! I knew about "Eat in the Hat" (Brown Derby) but I never knew about the Hardware Store in the Pumpkin.

CaliNative Sep 24, 2020 6:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 9051309)
The distillery is about a mile to the northwest. Empire is the street at the top of your photo.

https://i.postimg.cc/Gmtk4S3w/Screen...-Annotated.jpg

My mother used to work at Lockheed in the 1960s. Most of their Burbank operations, including the headquarters buildings were located adjacent to the Hollywood Burbank airport (Bob Hope AP, originally known as Lockheed Field or Airport) on the left side of the pic, near Hollywood Way and Vanowen. Some operations were east of Hollywood Way as you show. Now Lockheed is long gone from Burb.

Hollywood Graham Sep 24, 2020 3:51 PM

Pumpkin Hardware Store
 
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Originally Posted by JimCraig (Post 9051751)
Great film! I knew about "Eat in the Hat" (Brown Derby) but I never knew about the Hardware Store in the Pumpkin.

Never heard of it but here is some info I found...http://last1onthebus.com/picture-thi...pkin-building/

RudyJK Sep 25, 2020 1:40 AM

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bb/2b...2088c7c1d4.jpghttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/bb/2b...2088c7c1d4.jpg

Explicably, two images that I will most associate with the intrepid band of Noirishers that have brightened my evenings so much during the mayhem of 2020. Thank you! (Monkey on the back...monkey staring you in the eyes.)

ethereal_reality Sep 25, 2020 4:45 PM

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riichkay, I found a small nugget of information related to your interesting post on Burl's and Moy's but I'm not ready to post it yet.



In your post you referred back to previous NLA posts a bunch of times. It would have helped if you turned them into links.

When you refer back to a previous post, right click & copy the 'whatever it's called' (page address?) at the top of the post.


This thing - - - - > ...https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...ostcount=55540


Then copy & paste it into your current post and add urls. (as shown below)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/cszpKA.jpg
I changed the link name from 'interesting post' to 'Burl's and Moy's' after the fact.


That way... what you're referring to becomes a link that we can easily check out.

Ta Dah!


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ethereal_reality Sep 25, 2020 5:27 PM

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I don't believe we have visited the Klein & Simpson Fruit Company on NLA but even if we have, we haven't seen each & everyone of their employees! ! !


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/3TpzYm.jpg
eBay

hmmm. . .maybe the people are fruit growers & vendors.

also note the gas-o-meter at far right - - - >



Here are some close-ups.


#1
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/hCrCUO.jpg






#2
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/FvysrJ.jpg






#3
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/WnaVW8.jpg


The seller included the address..... Ninth and San Pedro St. (I haven't confirmed it)

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HossC Sep 25, 2020 8:27 PM

:previous:

The photo below comes with the following caption:

"This circa late 1910s photo from the Homestead’s collection shows employees of the Klein-Simpson Fruit Company, Los Angeles’ largest wholesale fruit and produce firm, in the warehouse."

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
The Homestead Blog

It's from an article about Klein-Simpson which also says:

"The company was originally two separate entities. Frank Simpson, a native of New York, operated a fruit company under his own name from about 1890 to 1910, and the firm was considered one of the largest produce and fruit businesses on the West Coast, according to a 1911 isue [sic] of California Fruit News.

Meantime, Arthur Klein, who hailed from Hungary, began his fruit retail and wholesale business on the historic Plaza about 1893. As the industrial area to the southeast expanded, Klein moved his operation to Ninth and Los Angeles streets by the end of the century.

The Simpson firm was one of the prime movers in the establishment of the Los Angeles Public Market Company, which built a large commercial structure on East Sixth Street near Alameda Street. A City of Los Angeles historic resources report also indicated that the Frank Simpson Fruit Company was instrumental in the creation of another public market at 9th and San Pedro streets. This was a massive six-acre project called the City Market of Los Angeles spanning from 9th to 11th and from San Pedro to San Julian and the facility exists today more than a century later."


The 1911 CD lists the address as "cor Produce and Mill", but by 1912 it's become "1338-1360 Produce". It then contracts to "1442-1360 Produce" before changing to "750 Market ct" in 1918.

odinthor Sep 25, 2020 8:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9053670)
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I don't believe we have visited the Klein & Simpson Fruit Company on NLA but even if we have, we haven't seen each & everyone of their employees! ! !


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/3TpzYm.jpg
eBay

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e_r, it is interesting to compare the structure with that at 848 Stevenson, not too far away:

https://i.postimg.cc/59Sn4jBp/848-Stevenson.jpg
odinthor archive

ethereal_reality Sep 25, 2020 8:51 PM

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Here's a rare look inside one of the rooms in the old Wilcox Hotel in Hollywood. (Sept. 4, 1942)


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/O7MZbm.jpg
eBay (link coming)

I believe the three buddies are in the military because, unless I'm mistaken, their hats are on top of the credenza.


The reverse
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/x5XHrH.jpg


Here's a closer look. (there's one of their hats)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/I9XkF2.jpg

They're drinking 7-UP and, what looks like, some kind of whiskey. :shrug:









The Wilcox Hotel around the time of their visit.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/FBGR9t.jpg
historicconsultants

As you can see, the hotel entrance is actually on Selma and not Wilcox.

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BillinGlendaleCA Sep 25, 2020 9:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9053670)
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I don't believe we have visited the Klein & Simpson Fruit Company on NLA but even if we have, we haven't seen each & everyone of their employees! ! !


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/3TpzYm.jpg
eBay



The seller included the address..... Ninth and San Pedro St. (I haven't confirmed it)

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I'm skeptical about 9th and San Pedro based on the gasometer in the background. Klein Simpson was at Mill and Produce in the teens and in the 20's at 750 Market. I'm favoring the Mill and Produce location, the gasometer would be in the right location.


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