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GaylordWilshire May 31, 2017 8:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7820849)
This building is on the NW corner of Estrella and 23rd Street, just across from the north entrance to Chester Place.
The Chester Place Apartments is called the Chester Arms in the descriptions of the following undated LAPL photos.

The 23rd Street entrance is on the left:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...9.jpg~original

00026768 at LAPL



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/cY...Q=w600-h389-no


A corner of the Chester Place Apts is seen in this view from an ancient post: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1775


I suppose tenants got used the the U car grinding around the corner every 10 minutes....



That house is still there too--

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/mm...A=w878-h648-no

ethereal_reality May 31, 2017 8:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7820973)

In the first photo you originally posted, E_R, it says HAM underneath the mannequin.

You're right Martin, not sure how I missed that.

enlarged / Barney and Ham
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/bN5kcR.jpgdetail




Barney becomes Jocko by the time he reaches New Jersey. ;)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/Bp4SL1.jpg
Playland detail

Ham was one of Noah's sons, right?
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update:

"The Curse of Ham is a misnomer for the curse upon Canaan, Ham's son, that was imposed by the biblical patriarch Noah.
The curse occurs in the Book of Genesis and concerns Noah's drunkenness and the accompanying shameful act perpetrated by his son Ham,
the father of Canaan (Gen. 9:20–27)."
Curse of Ham

So what was the shameful act? Was Noah drunk or Ham? (if it was Ham that would explain the inebriated mannequin)

odinthor May 31, 2017 9:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7821034)
[...]
Ham was one of Noah's sons, right?
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update:

"The Curse of Ham is a misnomer for the curse upon Canaan, Ham's son, that was imposed by the biblical patriarch Noah.
The curse occurs in the Book of Genesis and concerns Noah's drunkenness and the accompanying shameful act perpetrated by his son Ham,
the father of Canaan (Gen. 9:20–27)."
Curse of Ham

So what was the shameful act? Was Noah drunk or Ham? (if it was Ham that would explain the inebriated mannequin)

Noah got blotto and sprawled out in his tent, showing his junk I guess. Ham comes by, sees Noah's stuff, and blabs about it to his brothers. The non-Ham brothers go to N.'s tent without looking, and cover N. up. N. finds out about Ham's disrespect, and gets p.o.'d against Ham. Selah.

ethereal_reality May 31, 2017 9:44 PM

:previous: thanks odinthor. You certainly have a way with words. ;) lol




This afternoon's 'mystery' photo.

At first I wasn't 100% sure it was Los Angeles until I noticed the streetlight.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/EPfINk.jpg
old file / originally from jalopyjournal


The sign on the left appear to start with 'Wa'.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/vYiarq.jpg
detail

Waveside (but there's no 'e')....Wayside (but there's no descender for the Y)

The second word appears to begin with a 'C'. (Club perhaps)




frustratingly, the sign on the right is too blurry to be of any help :(
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/bCEmqj.jpg
detail

jalopyjournal

ethereal_reality May 31, 2017 10:32 PM

"Night view from one of the Park LaBrea towers, Los Angeles California, June 1954"


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/N8gGCM.jpg
caliboy101 / flickr

I love this amateur snapshot.

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ethereal_reality May 31, 2017 10:36 PM

Mitsuba Training Company, Los Angeles.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/nczaUz.jpg
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/snapscot/14072283707/

:previous: "Fumio, Yukio and Jenel Nakaya pictured" [1938/1939]

As you can see in the reflection Toyo Printing Co. is across the street.



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/AiNGRk.jpg
lapl

I believe all the buildings you see in the pic are gone. :(
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HossC May 31, 2017 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7821103)

This afternoon's 'mystery' photo.

At first I wasn't 100% sure it was Los Angeles until I noticed the streetlight.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/EPfINk.jpg
old file / originally from jalopyjournal

The sign on the left appear to start with 'Wa'.

Waveside (but there's no 'e')....Wayside (but there's no descender for the Y)

The second word appears to begin with a 'C'. (Club perhaps)

The image seems to originate from LAPL. Their description is "Exterior view of the Wayside Art Colony store in Long Beach on May 17, 1939. Cars are parked on the street in front."

There's also a second image.

"Exterior view of the Wayside Art Colony store in Long Beach on May 17, 1939. A sign indicates rugs and knitting are among the items for sale, and visitors are welcome."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ideColony1.jpg
LAPL

BTW - the original Jalopy Journal post is here (about three posts down). Jalopy Journal often have interesting photos with little/no description and no trace of a source - it can be frustrating at times!

ETA: Here's a better look at the sign (image enlarged). The site says it was at the "Southeast corner of 1st and Atlantic".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ideColony2.jpg
longbeachheritagemuseum.org

tovangar2 May 31, 2017 10:57 PM

:previous:

The site now has a Travel Lodge on it.

ethereal_reality May 31, 2017 10:58 PM

:previous: Excellent sleuthing Hoss. -and tovangar2.

The only 'Wayside' I could think of was the Wayside Inn in Studio City.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7821193)
The site now has a Travel Lodge on it.

Corner of 1st and Atlantic, right?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/OE5QHS.jpg
google_aerial /south is at top


There are some nice art deco apartments behind the travelodge (facing Lime Ave.)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/uRjK3a.jpg
gsv

They were built in 1925.
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ethereal_reality Jun 1, 2017 1:54 AM

When everyone was posting 'snow' photos a couple weeks ago I should have included this edition of the Herald Express from 1949. (I forgot I had it)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/3ZJNCA.jpg
ebay

The Black Dahlia still making front page headlines in 1949...two years after the fact.


bottom half
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/922/HsKWdr.jpg
ebay

:previous: I wish the article about the Black Dahlia was clearer. (can anyone make heads or tails out of it?)


additional pages.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/lBZGdi.jpg
ebay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/0uXtOv.jpg
ebay

:previous: I just noticed the Mitchum/Marijuana article.

and a smaller blurb about a 'Mitchum' sofa for sale. (was Lila Leeds trying to raise money for her attorney bills?)

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tovangar2 Jun 1, 2017 7:04 AM

Robert Mitchum sat here
 
The type was a tad small for me, so I zoomed in, but I'll just repost this one:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/T8...w=w504-h515-no
e_r

Martin Pal Jun 1, 2017 5:14 PM

:previous:

Many noteworthy things in that paper besides the "snow"! Thanks for posting it, E_R!
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From a December 2016 article:

Quote:

Snow once fell on the Los Angeles coastal plain with some regularity – on average, about once per decade. Since official records were first kept in 1877, the downtown Los Angeles weather station observed measurable snowfall three times, in 1882, 1932, and 1949. A Jan. 12, 1882, snowfall left the town’s “old timers … perfectly thunderstruck,” the Los Angeles Times reported, although the paper did acknowledge two previous snowfall events over the preceding twenty years. News reports recorded snowfall elsewhere in the Los Angeles Basin in 1913, 1921, 1922, 1926, 1944, 1957, 1962 – and then never again, for 55 years running.

Los Angeles is in the middle of a 55-year snow drought and with each passing year snowfall becomes increasingly less likely – although it’s still technically possible in 2016. (And indeed, snowfall at higher elevations and in inland valleys is more common; a 1989 system dropped several inches on the San Fernando Valley but missed the coastal plain, and a 2007 storm dusted the canyons above Malibu with powder and dropped hail-like graupel on L.A.'s Westside.)

Los Angeles today is roughly five degrees Fahrenheit warmer than it was a century ago. Minimum temperatures have been especially sensitive to the warming trend. We routinely see them breaking records more so than high temperatures. Our nights, in other words, are getting even warmer than our days. Five degrees of warming may have pushed a weather phenomenon from the margins of possibility into the realm of pure fantasy.
_________________________________________________________________

I referenced this link before when I recently posted some winter photographs. What I noticed on reading the above again is that the first paragraph (above) doesn't reference the 1948 snowfall at all, even though there are photos on the article site dating some of them as 1948. (On another site I read someone speculates that the 1948 snow was probably in December, preceding the January 1949 storms, so it's been lumped together with that winter season.)

https://www.linktv.org/shows/lost-la...les-since-1962

Martin Pal Jun 1, 2017 5:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7821896)

From a December 2016 article:

[...] a 2007 storm dusted the canyons above Malibu with powder and dropped hail-like graupel on L.A.'s Westside. [...]
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I had to look this up. Word for today:

graupel

Precipitation that forms when supercooled droplets of water are collected and freeze on falling snowflakes, forming 2–5 mm (0.08–0.20 in) balls of rime. Also called soft hail or granular snow pellets. The term graupel comes from the German language.

I also had to look up:

rime

Frost formed on cold objects by the rapid freezing of water vapor in cloud or fog.

3940dxer Jun 1, 2017 6:14 PM

Looking for 3rd & Vermont/New Hampshire images
 
Can anyone offer any interesting old images of the 3rd & Vermont/New Hampshire area? I've seen aerials showing the old used airplane dealership where Ralph's is now located, and the handsome old apartment building at 4th and New Hampshire but would like to know of any others. This is for a group I often meet with in that area, that is interested in L.A. history (and for my own interest). Thanks!

Flyingwedge Jun 1, 2017 6:16 PM

The Ryer aka The Stevens Apartments @ 321 S. Grand
 
This apartment building first appears in the 1904 LACD:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...o.jpg~original

fold3.com


This photo may have been taken soon after The Ryer opened. In the rear at left is The Castle at 325 S. Bunker Hill Avenue:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...s.png~original

SCWHR-P-005-N0345 at Seaver Center


This undated photo is misidentified as "700 W 1st Street," but it obviously shows The Ryer and its apartment house
neighbors, the Kenneth and Fleur de Lis. At far left is 347 S. Grand:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...o.png~original

SCWHR-P-005-N0323 at Seaver Center


In 2009 e_r posted this c. 1960 Arnold Hylen photo of The Ryer, by then remodeled and renamed The Stevens Apartments:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4611225)

Below: The Stevens Apartments in 1960.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/836...illstevens.jpg
Cal State


This is The Stevens Apartments on July 20, 1962:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...9.jpg~original

408084 @ Huntington Digital Library


Here is the south side of The Stevens Apartments on December 30, 1962. At left is the rear of 318-22 S. Bunker Hill Avenue:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...s.jpg~original

408107 @ Huntington Digital Library


The demo permit for 321 S. Grand is dated September 3, 1964.

Flyingwedge Jun 1, 2017 6:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 7822007)
Can anyone offer any interesting old images of the 3rd & Vermont/New Hampshire area? I've seen aerials showing the old used airplane dealership where Ralph's is now located, and the handsome old apartment building at 4th and New Hampshire but would like to know of any others. This is for a group I often meet with in that area, that is interested in L.A. history (and for my own interest). Thanks!

Well, Photobucket seems to be having issues displaying the images in my July 11, 2014, post on the Park Lane at 4th and
New Hampshire, but the links to the old pics are still OK.

tovangar2 Jun 1, 2017 6:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7821940)
I had to look this up. Word for today:

graupel

Precipitation that forms when supercooled droplets of water are collected and freeze on falling snowflakes, forming 2–5 mm (0.08–0.20 in) balls of rime. Also called soft hail or granular snow pellets. The term graupel comes from the German language.

That 2007 storm was a gift. We were all out playing in it. "Soft hail" is a good description. WLA was coated in white, but it didn't last long at all.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Po...Q=w542-h392-no
wxbrad

HossC Jun 1, 2017 6:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7822034)

Well, Photobucket seems to be having issues displaying the images in my July 11, 2014, post on the Park Lane at 4th and
New Hampshire, but the links to the old pics are still OK.

It looks like my Photobucket images aren't showing either. I'll have to hold my Julius Shulman post and hope it starts working again soon!

Flyingwedge Jun 1, 2017 7:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7822041)
It looks like my Photobucket images aren't showing either. I'll have to hold my Julius Shulman post and hope it starts working again soon!

As of just now, the images are displaying again.

HossC Jun 1, 2017 8:57 PM

Thanks for letting me know that PB photos are working again, FW.

I showed a 1951 Julius Shulman picture of Pereira & Luckman's staff drafting room about a month ago in post #41604. There's still no sign of an exterior shot, but "Job 1552: Pereira & Luckman, Pereira & Luckman Offices, 1953" gives us four more interior views.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

Some beautifully framed designs.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

On the desk, Master Project File, Volume 16, California Institute of Technology.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original

I wonder who left their glasses behind?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

The magazine on the desk in the last photo is the July 1953 issue of Fortune.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original
eBay


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