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AlvaroLegido Jun 27, 2014 8:37 PM

Collars and ties
 
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Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6633587)

Have a look to the shirt collar and tie of the second man starting from the right. He's dressed in 1930 like in the 1910's fashion. Old people often keep on dressing like when they were young or mature men. At the same time the man on the right who is not quite as elderly is dressed very elegantly in the 1930s fashion and even 1940s.
This contrast between the two men made me think of an advice in a book which studies screenplays : « Think to characterize visually a (bad or not) mature character who has a stiff an obtuse mind dressing him 20/30 years well before the other characters who are in the fashion of the time of the action. »
I remember in « Quai des Brumes » (a classical french movie of 1939) where the bad and stiff (Michel Simon) is dressed 1910' (same collar and tie than in the photo above) and the smart and very flexible gangster (Pierre Brasseur) has the same suit than the man on the right. I guess there are lots of examples. One example I fondly remember (to stay on the noirish side) is in « High Sierra » (Raoul Walsh) which action takes place in 1940. There is a doctor who helps the mob, he's dressed like in the 1870s ! His haircut too. It has to be a wink of the eye to the brotherhood of westerns and noirish movies...

ethereal_reality Jun 27, 2014 9:04 PM

:previous: Interesting observation AlvaroLegido.
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nice house, 1910
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/850/1mz2.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...0/820/qgnu.jpg
ebay
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ProphetM Jun 27, 2014 9:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6634579)
That is one beautiful sign. Congratulations.

:cheers:

If anyone here is interested in getting reproduction road signs, here is where I started:

http://shields.aaroads.com/sales.php

The guy who makes them uses vintage equipment to produce accurate custom reproductions, including the appropriate colors, logos (auto club, CA div. of highways,) etc., porcelain enamel on nice heavy gauge steel.

ethereal_reality Jun 27, 2014 9:20 PM

This is the first time I've come across an ad like this.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/840/fkq6.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/849/hp5v.jpg
ebay



The New World Silver Fox Co. offices were located here, in the Brockman Building.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/855/zw8j.jpg
lapl
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By coincidence, I happened across this photograph that shows a sign for Schleicher Silver Foxes.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/855/fmt9.jpg
ebay

I guess I never stopped to think where the fur for all the fur coats in Hollywood came from.


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Earl Boebert Jun 27, 2014 9:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6634837)

I guess I never stopped to think where the fur for all the fur coats in Hollywood came from.


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And then there was the great chinchilla bubble of the 1950s ... it was hard to find a magazine back then that didn't have an ad in the back touting the $$$ that could be made by raising chinchillas in your back yard.

I often wondered where all those little critters ended up when it burst.

Cheers,

Earl

andilinks Jun 27, 2014 9:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 6634877)
And then there was the great chinchilla bubble of the 1950s ...

Earl

New World Silver Fox Company contracts for a guaranteed return on investment looks like some of the speculation craziness that just preceded the bursting of the 1929 bubble. I suspect they didn't survive the earliest part of the depression even though Hollywood kept dressing in furs for another 50 or so years…

ethereal_reality Jun 27, 2014 10:34 PM

...early fashion in Los Angeles, 1910s.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/829/0v6b.jpg
ebay


shoe department
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/856/s57j.jpg
ebay






http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102.../843/w48um.jpg
reverse



enlargement/detail
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/841/5jrh2.jpg

Can you imagine shopping here on a hot summer day. I don't see a fan anywhere in the store.

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ethereal_reality Jun 27, 2014 11:18 PM

...speaking of Silver Foxes.

I just came across this blog.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/822/bax6.jpg

Go here: http://furglamor.com/tag/silver-fox/


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sadykadie2 Jun 28, 2014 7:00 AM

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Originally Posted by andilinks (Post 6633940)
Hello wonderful noirish Los Angeles Forum! I discovered this thread weeks ago with a Google image search and have been slowly making my way from page ~180 to 400 and have realized it will take months to get to the current postings this way so I will join you on page 1112 now and begin working my way backwards while staying current hoping to eventually read every post and view every picture.

I was born in Los Angeles but only spent my teen years on the West Side. I unfortunately have no personal pics to share, but I have a keen interest in the entire history of LA, the movie industry, and the noir era. I hope to eventually make some contributions here.

I'm very impressed with what I've seen so far. :)

Andrea

Exactly what I started doing, Andrea. After about 2 months, I had to go to the front

ethereal_reality Jun 28, 2014 7:23 PM

Hill Street north from Jefferson, 1925

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/853/jll3.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/15962/rec/93




a closer view/west side of street
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/840/nuav.jpg




east side of street

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/841/ihls8.jpg

Not sure what that 'base' is. It looks like it's missing a traffic light.

I also wondered what that was a little further up the sidewalk.
-on closer inspection/ it's three kids playing marbles, or reading a fragment of newspaper that's littered on the ground.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/856/ubwk.jpg

If you what to explore the photograph yourself go here:
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/15962/rec/93

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HossC Jun 28, 2014 7:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6635547)

east side of street

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/841/ihls8.jpg

Not sure what that 'base' is. It looks like it's missing a traffic light.

Looks like a car hood to me.

ethereal_reality Jun 28, 2014 8:05 PM

:previous: Hmmm...I think you're right HossC. I wonder what that 'stand' with the letters KO is on the right? (for oil cans?)
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posted earlier-
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/840/n5xl.jpg
ebay




I found a couple postcards of Schleicher Silver Foxes/

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/823/ei9u4.jpg




Is this a lynx?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/834/82sr8.jpg





Here's a great view of Inspiration Point that I don't believe we've seen here before.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/820/9jx7.jpg
www.mountlowe.org

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ethereal_reality Jun 28, 2014 8:26 PM

On the 100th anniversary of the Mt. Lowe Incline this guy drove his car up the mountain.

Here he is driving through Granite Gate on July 4, 1993. Pretty cool huh-:)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/850/d6up.jpg
Paul Rippens photo at http://www.mountlowe.org/


interesting comment/explanation.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/822/9ejn.jpg
http://www.mountlowe.org/


Here's an earlier view of Granite Gate, showing a Pacific Electric Mt. Lowe Railway car.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/853/wdtn.jpg
ebay

I'm pretty sure we've seen this postcard before/I'm reposting it for comparison to Mr. Rippens 1993 foto-
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ethereal_reality Jun 28, 2014 9:00 PM

I never knew there was a fire in the Herald Examiner Building. -1951

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/829/wlvy.jpg
ebay
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ethereal_reality Jun 28, 2014 9:19 PM

I found this earlier this week on ebay.

Venice Beach 1915
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102.../841/y5jyn.jpg

I'm guessing that contraption near the building is an amusement ride. (at first I thought it was a pump for the plunge)



reverse/info.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/849/mldu.jpg
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ethereal_reality Jun 28, 2014 10:37 PM

There's been progress at the former California State Building site.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/834/bi6fg.jpg


-yes, still waiting for them to dig up that cache of art deco chandeliers and lighting fixtures. ;) -fingers crossed.


Beaudry's recent excursion down to the site.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=21802

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GaylordWilshire Jun 28, 2014 10:43 PM

Remember the goat-gland doctor?


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Y...olorFBaddr.jpgUSCDLWBH


I've done a little more investigating into Dr. Clayton E. Wheeler's goat-gland clinic at 3173 Wilshire Boulevard. After genteel beginnings and questionable medical practices, the house just got weirder, and that's even before Nixon darkened its doors. The full story of the Emilie Brodtbeck house is now here: http://wilshireboulevardhouses.blogs...e-see-our.html


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9...COMPLREVSh.jpgLAT

ProphetM Jun 28, 2014 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6635692)
There's been progress at the former California State Building site.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/834/bi6fg.jpg


-yes, still waiting for them to dig up that cache of art deco chandeliers and lighting fixtures. ;) -fingers crossed.


Beaudry's recent excursion down to the site.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=21802

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That's a strange angle on the remaining structure, more akin to the alignment of the old hall of records and the funky-angled streets that once ran nearby, than the State Building. That corner of the State Building property was mostly lawn. Could this be the remains of an earlier building?

I've been Googling for a good picture and this is what I came up with:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/...de7a363c_o.jpg

From a gsjansen post WAY back in the thread.

Looks like the third Times Building was on that corner spot, from 1912 to 1938.

From a post by FredH, here is the third Times Building in 1936, with the State Building right up next to it at the left edge of the photo. The side of the Times Building is clearly angled funny.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/598...buildings9.jpg
FredH's post, photo source LA Times

So, what do you think? Is that the basement of the 1912 Times building in the new photo? I'm thinking that it is. I guess they just tore it down to ground level in 1938 and left the rest!

Edit: One more photo:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-x...s_angeles2.jpg
LA Daily Mirror

The State Building is under construction while the Times Building sits on the corner, with other smaller buildings next to it filling out the rest of the block along 1st Street. The Times Building is clearly shaped just like that basement in the modern photo, including that extra chunk protruding in the back corner.

GaylordWilshire Jun 29, 2014 12:01 AM

:previous:

Fantastic find, Prophet. It looks like that is the foundation of the old Times building. Or...what was on the site before the Times? I suppose it will be bulldozed without anyone but NLA noticing.

Another shot show the angled north side of the Times...
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics26/00047858.jpgLAPL

ConstructDTLA Jun 29, 2014 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 6635745)

So, what do you think? Is that the basement of the 1912 Times building in the new photo? I'm thinking that it is. I guess they just tore it down to ground level in 1938 and left the rest!


Whoa! Great detective work, it seems like it could be.

Glad my images could be of help guys, feel free to use them on this thread (with credit) anytime:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/


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