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Martin Pal Jul 11, 2015 7:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7091666)
Found some sailors- not at the 7 Seas after all, but down the block at Hollywood & Vine.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...2997e5245c.jpg
here

Nice series of photos and thanks for pointing out some of the details.

In the above photo, I like the stance of the woman crossing the street. She's
almost angled backwards, though she might be trying to avoid being hit by
the car.

Is that sailor's cap the wrong size?

I thought spelling words incorrectly (not cleverly as they seem to think it is)
was a newer phenomenon. Notice the spelling of "thoroughly" on the billboard
above Melody Lane.***

The headline on that vendor's paper looks huge. I wonder what happened that day?

(Though on looking at some of the other photos the headlines on most of the
papers look huge. Maybe it was standard then, or every headline was huge
during the war.)

By the way, it was either cloudy or a bad case of smog in those other great
pictures taken for LIFE magazine. You can hardly see down the boulevard.

***Thoroly is listed, however, in some dictionaries:

1.) (rare) Alternative spelling of thoroughly.
Usage notes: This spelling is seldom found nowadays.
However, the spelling is occasionally employed as shorthand.
Origin: Proposed as a phonetic spelling of thoroughly in 1898 by
the American National Education Association.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7091666)

Notice in this photo is a lamp post advertisement for the Pilgrimage Play. As
it's pointing north, I am assuming it was for the Pilgrimage Play presented
each summer at the Pilgrimage Theatre in the Cahuenga Pass, renamed the
John Anson Ford Amphitheatre in 1976, near the Hollywood Bowl, built in 1920
for the purpose of presenting that play. A brush fire destroyed it in October
of 1929 and it was rebuilt, opening again in 1931.

I say I assume the sign is for this because on the theatre's current website's
history page, HERE, it states:

After re-opening in 1931, The Pilgrimage Play was again performed here until
1964, interrupted only by World War II.


This photo would make that debateable.

Martin Pal Jul 11, 2015 7:50 PM

We've visited Hollywood Blvd. (during WWII) several times lately and in looking for something
else I came across this 1941 photo. Well, it's a screengrab from the film "1941" of one of the
miniatures of Hollywood Blvd.

https://hustonsite.files.wordpress.c.../05/1941-8.jpg

Warner backlot of Hollywood Blvd.:

https://images.static-bluray.com/reviews/10792_4.jpg

Though movie recreations are often meant to be general rather than historically accurate, I wondered
if anyone had ever seen Hollywood Blvd. decorated with anything other than Christmas Trees along
the street, rather than the Santa Claus option chosen by the art director of this film?

If anyone doesn't know, this film is loosely based on several Los Angeles and Los Angeles area events
from the time period including the shelling of an oil tank by a Japanese submarine near Santa Barbara,
the Zoot Suit riots, and the February 1942 panic attack when people thought we were being raided
by the Japanese--or by UFO's according to some "Alien Files" program I saw recently.

The film used other miniatures as well, like an aerial view of the city with the HOLLYWOODLAND sign featured
so that one character can shoot off the "LAND" part, and a miniature of the amusment park (Ocean Park) pier
in Santa Monica.

I enjoy many of the quirks of this film, but as a whole it can give you a headache. To me it's more like
a wind-up toy that spurts and sputters and entertains you for a bit before you move on. On revisiting
it awhile ago it was nice to see a film with all of the special effects done in camera and not one obvious
CGI moment to interrupt it.

ethereal_reality Jul 11, 2015 7:53 PM

:previous: When I first glanced at that photograph I thought it was from Blade Runner. (squint & you'll see what I mean)






I came across this interesting building quite by accident the other day.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/vz60tl.jpg
gsv

It reminds me a bit of the vintage buildings at Venice Beach, but this building is located at 2517 Pasadena Avenue in Lincoln Heights.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...911/am6PRK.jpg
detail / gsv



view showing the side of the building
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/YjjZfH.jpg
gsv

I haven't found a build date yet (it's oddly missing from the real estate sites I looked at),

but I found this interior photo of what looks like a hallway.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/6F18Ml.jpg
http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/16072...os-Angeles-CA/

*I just realized it's the same space as the photo below. (so no, it isn't a hallway)



Several sites mention 30 ft. wood beamed ceilings (see below)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/g48zu7.jpg
https://foursquare.com/v/reincarnati...b0b13f4c7786ba



One of the real estate sites had this interior photograph. I'm having a hard time picturing this layout in this building. Did the real estate site make a mistake?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/Iar2VA.jpg
http://www.loopnet.com/Property-Reco...031/XKT1Vzz5Q/
:previous: click the link to check it out.


I re-checked the aerial to see if there was any circular aspects to the design.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...537/Tk4Cv6.jpg
google_earth

Nope..

ethereal_reality Jul 11, 2015 9:47 PM

Man Leaps From 21st floor of City Hall.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/D7WUEq.jpg
eBay

"Michael Roomanoff, who was acquitted in Los Angeles three years ago on chargers of being a 'Hollywood Ponzi', today leaped to his death from the 21st floor of the city hall.
Roomanoff left a note directing that his debts be paid off by a $30,000 policy. Police had to retrieve the body from the roof by means of ropes."

"The body struck the tile on the roof about three stories from the ground."
12/14/1934

-note the crushed tiles...and then he rolled to the edge.

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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...910/Yv1GSg.jpg
eBay

ethereal_reality Jul 11, 2015 10:05 PM

Lupe Velez impersonating Adolf Hitler.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/H1RFV9.jpg
eBay

reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/NrvxQI.jpg

1941
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...538/jagu8J.jpg
http://hawaiiana.us/contents/en-us/d13.html

ethereal_reality Jul 11, 2015 10:08 PM

Babe Ruth has a BIG bat!


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/QB9L1C.jpg
eBay

CityBoyDoug Jul 11, 2015 10:23 PM

I Can Hold A Position.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7092141)
:previous: When I first glanced at that photograph I thought it was from Blade Runner. (squint & you'll see what I mean)
I came across this interesting building quite by accident the other day.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/vz60tl.jpg
gsv

It reminds me a bit of the vintage buildings at Venice Beach, but this building is located at 2517 Pasadena Avenue in Lincoln Heights.

.

Cool building design....ER...that's connected a local artist's model.

I did find out that Dave The Model was somehow associated with this building at one time.
http://www.meetup.com/LosAngelesFigu...nts/120437032/ He and a group of other models wanted to start a modeling something in this building.

LA's only contortionist male art model, with nine years' experience. Naturally flexible, yoga trained, sculptor background and a narrative posing style.
He also runs drawing workshops from time to time. ArtModelDave.com

"I CAN HOLD DIFFICULT POSES FOR HOURS IF NEED BE.
AS A CONTORTIONIST, YOU MIGHT BE SURPRISED
AT WHAT I DEEM COMFORTABLE. AS A MODEL,
YOU WILL FIND THAT I AM..."

Here is Dave Larson ...Model, who's motto is "Hire me". Here's his website..he sounds serious and he lets you know he's
interested in ''ladies''.

http://www.artmodeldave.com/index.html

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psptpyifsg.jpg
http://www.artmodeldave.com/index.html

Noircitydame Jul 11, 2015 10:38 PM

:previous:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7092122)
Nice series of photos and thanks for pointing out some of the details.


The headline on that vendor's paper looks huge. I wonder what happened that day?

(Though on looking at some of the other photos the headlines on most of the
papers look huge. Maybe it was standard then, or every headline was huge
during the war.)

Notice in this photo is a lamp post advertisement for the Pilgrimage Play. As
it's pointing north, I am assuming it was for the Pilgrimage Play presented
each summer at the Pilgrimage Theatre in the Cahuenga Pass, renamed the
John Anson Ford Amphitheatre in 1976, near the Hollywood Bowl, built in 1920
for the purpose of presenting that play. A brush fire destroyed it in October
of 1929 and it was rebuilt, opening again in 1931.

I say I assume the sign is for this because on the theatre's current website's
history page, HERE, it states:

After re-opening in 1931, The Pilgrimage Play was again performed here until
1964, interrupted only by World War II.


This photo would make that debateable.

That is a big pack he's got and a huge headline. Must've been mighty big doings. I have some bound volumes of LA Times and LA Daily News from the war years, chucked by the libraries when they went to microfilm so I tried to find the biggest headline, but nothing comes close. This morning edition of the Times' 7-10-44 morning edition is typical, at 3/4 inch. And Saipan Conquered is big news I'd say! The Daily News typically ran to a double headline like this one from 2-17-44, 4-1/4 inches combined.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/IMG_1764.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/IMG_1765.jpg

The Pilgrimage Play- apparently they had ceased it for a while, but it just happened to have been revived for the first time since the war when those photos were taken. It opened July 31, 1944, was supposed to close the week of Aug 20 but due to demand they held it over until the week of Sept 3.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...belle/8144.jpgLAT 8-1-44 http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...lle/9-3-44.jpg LAT 9-3-44

:previous:
the 1941 blackout situation being referrenced above was a reaction to the immediate war emergency, not related to the west coast dimout regulations in place 1942-Oct 1943 that I cited earlier;

Noircitydame Jul 11, 2015 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otis Criblecoblis (Post 7091843)
I think the truth of the matter is that with the accelerating newyorkification of our fair city, land is becoming too valuable for freestanding restaurants to abide much longer. It's not just coffee shops that are going away; here in Pasadena, the always-crowded Beckham Grill, a nice restaurant and a local institution, has lost its lease and is closing early next month, no doubt to be replaced by yet another high-density mixed-use development.

I guess this is what progress is, but I sure don't like it.

Yeah. Unfortunately nothing can be done about the eventual loss of one feature of these great old places, my favorite feature- the regular clientele. Elderly folks, men mostly, who look like retired gangsters and are talking about their poker game the night before, or the fights and swapping jokes. Once they aren't able to get about anymore or die off, the places, even if they survive development, won't be as fun.

mrfredmertz Jul 12, 2015 12:23 AM

Re the great photo on the previous page with Burgess Meredith:
Victor Moore's partner-in-crime William Gaxton is standing to the left of the pillar and Walter Huston, father of John is to the right. Wynn Murray is the blonde woman just to our left of Huston and am I totally mistake, but is that Lou Costello in the foreground left?

CityBoyDoug Jul 12, 2015 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7092221)
Man Leaps From 21st floor of City Hall.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/D7WUEq.jpg
eBay

"Michael Roomanoff, who was acquitted in Los Angeles three years ago on chargers of being a 'Hollywood Ponzi', today leaped to his death from the 21st floor of the city hall.
Roomanoff left a note directing that his debts be paid off by a $30,000 policy. Police had to retrieve the body from the roof by means of ropes."

"The body struck the tile on the roof about three stories from the ground."
12/14/1934

-note the crushed tiles...and then he rolled to the edge.

__

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...910/Yv1GSg.jpg
eBay

Here is your previous post on the man who leaped from City Hall....Michael Roomanoff...dreadful!

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=15881

http://imageshack.us/a/img15/1232/ekr1.jpg
ebay

GatoVerde Jul 12, 2015 4:19 AM

I went to a party at this site a couple of years ago. The occupants told me it had been a funeral home.


Cheers,
Jack[/QUOTE]

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7092141)
:previous: When I first glanced at that photograph I thought it was from Blade Runner. (squint & you'll see what I mean)






I came across this interesting building quite by accident the other day.



It reminds me a bit of the vintage buildings at Venice Beach, but this building is located at 2517 Pasadena Avenue in Lincoln Heights.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...911/am6PRK.jpg
detail / gsv



view showing the side of the building
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/YjjZfH.jpg
gsv

I haven't found a build date yet (it's oddly missing from the real estate sites I looked at),

but I found this interior photo of what looks like a hallway.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/6F18Ml.jpg
http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/16072...os-Angeles-CA/

*I just realized it's the same space as the photo below. (so no, it isn't a hallway)



Several sites mention 30 ft. wood beamed ceilings (see below)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/g48zu7.jpg
https://foursquare.com/v/reincarnati...b0b13f4c7786ba



One of the real estate sites had this interior photograph. I'm having a hard time picturing this layout in this building. Did the real estate site make a mistake?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/Iar2VA.jpg
http://www.loopnet.com/Property-Reco...031/XKT1Vzz5Q/
:previous: click the link to check it out.


I re-checked the aerial to see if there was any circular aspects to the design.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...537/Tk4Cv6.jpg
google_earth

Nope..


ethereal_reality Jul 12, 2015 4:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Workman (Post 7079879)
It DID snow in So CA in 1949.

The 1949 Los Angeles Snow Storm.

Daily News
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/x3UhA5.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/L-A-DAILY-NE...item4d32e8b1eb

:previous: note that the Black Dahlia is still in the news two years later.

Who is Jack Sands?

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ethereal_reality Jul 12, 2015 5:15 AM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/633/VdQ9Wn.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrfredmertz (Post 7092321)
:previous: Wynn Murray is the blonde woman just to our left of Walter Huston.


Winifred Murray
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...911/QsV39I.jpg
http://ifyoucanplayscranton.blogspot...ed-murray.html



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Otis Criblecoblis Jul 12, 2015 6:50 AM

Parenthetically. . .
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7092260)

Edwin Schallert is the father of actor William Schallert, a familiar face on television whom you may recall as Patty Duke's father, and before that Dobie Gillis' homeroom teacher. Father Edwin was the longtime drama critic of the LA Times.

Otis Criblecoblis Jul 12, 2015 6:56 AM

mrfredmertz, thank you for identifying William Gaxton! That face was so familiar, but I couldn't quite connect it with the name, because I am only really familiar with him in his silent-film days. It was driving me nuts!

Beaudry Jul 12, 2015 7:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7092141)



I came across this interesting building quite by accident the other day.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/vz60tl.jpg
gsv

It reminds me a bit of the vintage buildings at Venice Beach, but this building is located at 2517 Pasadena Avenue in Lincoln Heights.

No build date on Zimas, but I think it's pre-1905 since there's no record of new construction at LADBS there after. It looks pretty much the same in 1920 and 1951:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/295/1...6b016c40_c.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3720/...8147e847_c.jpg

It had been Woodsmen of the World lodge rooms, until (from what I can tell) Los Angeles Undertaking, Inc. moves in in the early '20s. They do some major work in 1933, including, according to permits, "Install stone & concrete at entrance" so I'm guessing that's when the Gothic tracery went in.

Interestingly, in 1926 a permit is granted for 2517, all the way to the corner to 2525, 23,000sf, $125,000, John Paxton Perrine-designed theater for West Coast Theaters, Inc. Which is apparently never built.

It's Los Angeles Undertaking from the early '20s until, at some point between '41 and '43, it becomes part of the Pierce Brothers chain, and remains so until the early '60s from what I can tell, and then it's a number of outfits, e.g. Funeral Consultants of America, and, at least since the early '90s, the A. Chau Funeral Home. It's de-mortuaried about ten years ago, I think

Beaudry Jul 12, 2015 8:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7091197)
"1924 Original LOS ANGELES Photo WEST ADAMS STREET Palm Trees California."


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/LAY2nC.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1924-Origina...item35ed552aaf

Does anyone recognize this apartment building?

The Holton Arms! Which JScott immediately pointed out naturally. I've got a little bit more about the Holton Arms, if you'll indulge me...

First off, a couple images that I think are new to the USCDL. Whittingtons:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/257/1...ec8392d2_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/348/1...976a3e21_b.jpg
USCDL

She's 1916, her architect, J F Kavanaugh.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/483/1...6bd34816_o.png
southwest contractor, 1916

Flash-forward to January, 1971. The Holton Arms is owned by the Orthopedic Hospital behind it. Some notes from Cleveland Wrecking:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/344/1...ddf5f703_b.jpg
ladbs

ethereal_reality Jul 12, 2015 3:04 PM

Beaudry, thanks for the information on 2517 Pasadena Ave.
"it's been de-mortuaried about ten years ago." lol :)

and for the additional information and photographs of the Holton Arms.

tovangar2 Jul 12, 2015 3:50 PM

2517 Pasadena Avenue, Lincoln Heights
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 7092508)
It had been Woodsmen of the World lodge rooms, until (from what I can tell) Los Angeles Undertaking, Inc. moves in in the early '20s. They do some major work in 1933, including, according to permits, "Install stone & concrete at entrance" so I'm guessing that's when the Gothic tracery went in.

Interestingly, in 1926 a permit is granted for 2517, all the way to the corner to 2525, 23,000sf, $125,000, John Paxton Perrine-designed theater for West Coast Theaters, Inc. Which is apparently never built.

Thank you Beaudry. Here's part of that 2 January 1926 building permit that was never used:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b...20512%2BAM.jpg

It had me confused as the building looks like it could have been a theater, with the round room being the "lobby" and the space with the 30' ceilings the "auditorium" (with room for a balcony).

The timber-work hints at the long-vanished ceiling:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3...15318%2BAM.jpg
loopnet

Viewed from the back, one sees modern(?) windows:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-k...30903%2BAM.jpg
gsv

(Terrific street lamps in that part of town. They go on for blocks and are in pretty good nick.)

That was a Richfield station to the east of the Woodmen of the World building:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 7092508)

Some history on Woodmen of the World, AKA W.O.W., is here and here.

Members of the Pasadena W.O.W. lodge show off traditional Woodmen regalia (1897):
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-e...94027%2BAM.jpg
lapl



Thank you e_r for the very interesting find. I had a lot of fun trolling through the seven pages of permits for that corner and reading up on W.O.W..

CityBoyDoug Jul 12, 2015 5:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7092660)
Thank you Beaudry. Here's part of that 2 January 1926 building permit that was never used:


Members of the Pasadena W.O.W. lodge show off traditional Woodmen regalia:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-e...94027%2BAM.jpg
lapl



Thank you e_r for the very interesting find. I had a lot of fun trolling through the seven pages of permits for that corner and reading up on W.O.W..


The W.O.W. had meetings for kids at my grade school in the 1950s. I went to a meeting and joined the ''fraternal'' club. You were required to buy a ''W.O.W. life insurance policy'' to be a member. I bought the policy, which is kind of ridiculous for an eleven year old kid! I went to a few corny ''woodsy'' meetings and finally dropped out. I figured it was just a scheme to sell life insurance. I had the policy for a few years until it finally expired due to my non-payment. I think the policy was $8 a year.


Even today in 2015 Ripoff Report has a large file on this insurance company:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Woodme...policie-154740

tovangar2 Jul 13, 2015 12:46 AM

Vincent Lamouroux at the Sunset Pacific
 
Remember the Sunset Pacific Motel at Sunset and Bates?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6999143)

Martin Pal did a terrific post about its history and its temporary incarnation as a work of art:

Well, in current photographs, the palms look like they're in recovery
and coming along just fine
(the motel itself is still bright white):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I...50801%2BPM.jpg
IAmNotAStalker (<--- more pix at the link)

Martin Pal Jul 13, 2015 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7092998)
Well, in current photographs, the palms look like they're in recovery
and coming along just fine
(the motel itself is still bright white):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I...50801%2BPM.jpg
IAmNotAStalker (<--- more pix at the link)

Thanks for that update! I was near there a couple weeks ago (at the Vista Theatre)
and wanted to walk a few blocks over there to see it, but my friend did not.

Martin Pal Jul 13, 2015 1:11 AM

NoirCityDame, you had mentioned that your father signed up for the Navy in WWII out of Fairfax High School
(at 17!) and I wondered if you have any Los Angeles related photos of him you could share with us? Did he ever
visit the Hollywood Canteen or any U.S.O.'s in L.A.? I hope you don't mind the query.

Also, you have found alot of good newspaper items to add to many posts and I wondered if you
have, or can find anything about this (below) that I inquired about once? Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7019410)
Speaking of Union Station, a couple months ago when I was looking up information about the First Interstate Bank
building fire in 1988, I found this LINK which had this intriguing item:

"A Yuletide Disaster at Union Station" -- The fire that took place at Union Station on December 12, 1942, may not
have caused the same sort of damage the First Interstate blaze did, but it must have put a damper on Downtown's
Christmas spirits. 7000 bags of mail -- more than 35 tons -- went up in smoke that day when a carelessly tossed
cigarette set fire to a canvas tent under which they were being stored. Both incoming and outgoing mail was included.
Sleds, dolls, baby buggies, boxes of candy, clothing and jewelry were found when fire crews sorted through the packages
looking for any lingering embers.


I haven't had any luck finding anything else about this occurrence (especially photos) which must have been covered
in the newspapers. I had never heard about a fire at Union Station before, has anyone else?

Again, thanks NoirCityDame for the post with info about the newspaper headlines and
clarification about dates for The Pilgrimage Play.

As an aside, I noticed in the ad you posted that "The Hollywood Pilgrimage Bowl" has it's address as
2580 N. Highland Ave. and, I'm assuming, when the freeway was built, the address changed to
2580 Cahuenga Blvd E. as the Ford Amphitheatre's now addressed.
(Hollywood Bowl is still 2301 N. Highland Ave.)

Some Pilgrimage Theatre photos and related info:

Here's a 1931 photo showing the beginnings of construction for the Pilgrimage Play Theatre
after the previous structure built in 1920 had been burned in a brush fire in October, 1929.
http://waterandpower.org/Historical_...nstruction.jpgLAPL Image Archive

Front entrance to the Pilgrimage Theatre in Hollywood, ca. 1931.
http://waterandpower.org/3%20Histori...ge_Theatre.jpgCSL Image Archive

Postcard view of the Pilgrimage Play Theatre seating and stage, ca. 1931.
http://waterandpower.org/A%20Histori...e_Interior.jpgLAPL Image Archive

Here's a daytime photo of the way the Pilgrimage Play Theatre and the Hollywood Bowl looked during 1944.
http://waterandpower.org/2%20Histori...ge_Theatre.jpgCSL Image Archive

Additional information says:
--During WWII the Pilgrimage Play Theatre was deeded to Los Angeles County and converted into dormitories for servicemen. (It was?)
--In 1942, Hollywood Bowl audiences were limited to 5,000 due to war-related safety concerns.

http://waterandpower.org/Historical%...Bonds_1944.jpgTable Magazine: L.A. Observatory

One or both of these may have been posted before.

Spotlights abound at a War Bonds event at the Hollywood Bowl.
On June 14th, 1944, radio actors and actresses performed at the
Hollywood Bowl during a war bond program. CBS broadcast the
event live.

http://waterandpower.org/Historical%..._War_Bonds.jpgLAPL Image Archive

By the way, the Pilgrimage Play Theatre, now called the John Anson Ford Amphitheatre since 1976, is
closed this summer.

From an L.A. Times article:

The rumble of construction machinery and the thwack of carpentry will be the summer sounds for
2015 at the 1,196-seat county-owned outdoor John Anson Ford Amphitheatre, which is closing for
at least a year and a half for a [near] $20-million renovation project. While the makeover is underway,
the dancers and musicians who usually hold sway at the theater will fan out to other, as yet undetermined
venues around Los Angeles County.

ethereal_reality Jul 13, 2015 2:39 AM

:previous: Very interesting post Martin.






Have we seen this on NLA before?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/yMDp36.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/o7e0vS.jpg
found in an old file of mine.








The so-called 'slums, blight - crowded' were to be replaced by this $200,000 apartment complex. (what is that in today's money CityBoyDoug?)

1950
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/901/yLG8tn.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=34631

"Eileen O. Laverty shows model of $200,000 apartment complex to be built on Bunker Hill,
called one of the greatest developments in downtown Los Angeles." (unrealized)

I believe it says 'coliseum on the white round building. (*actually it says Auditorium)
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ethereal_reality Jul 13, 2015 3:18 AM

"1924 Original PASADENA Photo HOUSE on SO. EL MOLINA & ALPINE ST. California."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/nFaAw9.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...907/MbokDz.jpg


reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/Zoiy0C.jpg



I drove the google-mobile in the vicinity and located the house at 979 S. El Molino.http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...910/1NmqTb.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/uAHz77.jpg
gsv

..and it's a Greene & Greene!


"Located in Pasadena's Madison Heights neighborhood, this historic Greene & Greene Craftsman was commissioned by Dr. Samuel Crow in 1909. The house was subsequently purchased by Edward Crocker, who was responsible for doubling the size of the property by purchasing land to the west of the residence and enhancing it with extensive gardens and out buildings designed by Henry Greene. Built on a U-shaped plan with a center courtyard, the 3,168 square-foot bungalow features four bedrooms, three baths, formal living and dining rooms, two fireplaces, a sunroom with stained glass skylights, wood-paneled halls, a separate guest cottage, swimming pool, and detached garage with caretaker's quarters."

The property has been owned by the same family since 1958!
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the garage, mentioned above, is very large.

here it is
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...661/RjCExc.jpg
redfin


aerial
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...909/WYtdnb.png
I think this must be the garage (red arrow)
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979 S. El Molino's neighbor is an attractive Craftsman as well (below, on the left)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/iGmmbq.jpg
gsv

Perhaps it's a Greene & Greene as well.
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Thanks for the additional information on 2517 Pasadena Ave. tovanger2. I tried to locate a photograph of the 'Woodmen' without success.
I noticed the street lamps too. I'm glad you mentioned them.

ethereal_reality Jul 13, 2015 3:51 AM

Early entrances to the Hollywood Bowl (no specific dates :(, sorry)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/MxvGKK.jpg
eBay



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/KTvAmg.jpg
http://www.californiarestorationandw...ollywood-bowl/






...and finally,

the model for the Streamline Modern/Art Deco entrance designed by George Stanley (commissioned by the WPA)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/PGw40T.jpg
http://artdecosociety.squarespace.com/
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CityBoyDoug, I somehow missed your earlier post about the contortionist model working out of 2517 Pasadena Avenue.
The building seems to attract 'bohemians' as of late. ;)

tovangar2 Jul 13, 2015 4:11 AM

There's something very dear about the "Hollywood Bowl" signboard propped up in the dirt.

Interesting lamp post / utility pole combination.

BDiH Jul 13, 2015 4:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7092461)
The 1949 Los Angeles Snow Storm.

Daily News
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/x3UhA5.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/L-A-DAILY-NE...item4d32e8b1eb

:previous: note that the Black Dahlia is still in the news two years later.

Who is Jack Sands?

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Jack Sands aka Leslie Dillon


ethereal_reality Jul 13, 2015 4:54 AM

:previous:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/VJdlmG.jpg
http://www.dialmurder.com/2013/03/02...ct-number-one/

ethereal_reality Jul 13, 2015 5:17 AM

FIVE POINTS
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/sJA3IB.jpg
google_earth



This impressive old garage (red arrow above) is just a block south of 2517 Pasadena Ave (outlined in blue).


-street view June 2009 (in later views the façade is partially covered in vines)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...633/O6qc04.jpg
gsv

It's located at 2450 Daly Street.



note the impressive art deco detailing around the large doors. (the folding metal screens might be original as well)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/aM9w64.jpg
gsv

I need some help on it's history.

tovangar2 Jul 13, 2015 6:07 AM

:previous:Telephone Company garage, building permit dated 26 Aug 1935

(Pac Bell is still across the street)

It's now the Daly Lofts per LA. curbed
http://la.curbed.com/archives/2010/0...ln_heights.php:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V...10608%2BPM.jpg

Video of one unit

Loopnet calls them the "Telephone Company Lofts"

Lane Barden lives there:
Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6182188)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-I...25039%2BAM.jpg
gvs july 2007

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F...25407%2BAM.jpg
gsv july 2014

Noircitydame Jul 13, 2015 6:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7093009)
NoirCityDame, you had mentioned that your father signed up for the Navy in WWII out of Fairfax High School
(at 17!) and I wondered if you have any Los Angeles related photos of him you could share with us? Did he ever
visit the Hollywood Canteen or any U.S.O.'s in L.A.? I hope you don't mind the query.

Also, you have found alot of good newspaper items to add to many posts and I wondered if you
have, or can find anything about this (below) that I inquired about once? Thanks.



Again, thanks NoirCityDame for the post with info about the newspaper headlines and
clarification about dates for The Pilgrimage Play.

Hi Martin,
I don't mind at all. It was my grandfather, the 17 year old. I'm sad to say I don't have any LA related photos from his navy days (only some shipboard ones) or stories of him visiting the USO. I suspect when he was in town he had to make the rounds to the relatives houses. It was hard to get him to talk about old LA or WWII, though I was interested in both. I'll look through my mom's photos anyway. I know she does have one of the boys at some unknown nightclub posing with bandleader Dick Jurgens and Johnny "the Phillip Morris midget." One of the sisters got the bulk of the familty photos; I got to glance through them once only- a certain coolness exits between her family and ours, stemming apparently from my mom calling her daughter "Sleeping Ugly" at a slumber party in 1962. The phrase "get over it" comes to mind, but I know I'll not likely ever see those pictures.

My grandmother Lorraine was also an LA/Hollywood girl and her friend was dating a local sailor boy, Jack Howell, who came to their apartment with some of his buddies one afternoon and they posed for some photos.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...obelle/011.jpg
Lorraine and some sailor buddies.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...obelle/009.jpg
Jack Howell. His girlfriend, Flo, wrote on the back of this one "He took some cuter ones but I'm stingy!"
I wish I knew Jack's family; I have pictures from their wedding June 29, 1946.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...obelle/008.jpg
I don't know his name but it's so LA with the white stucco and huge poinsettia. I see he has a comb in his pocket.

The fire in 1942. I did find a report of it in the LA Times, 12-13-42.It didn't take long to finger the suspect for it- Jimmy Jordan, age 16. Poor Jimmy- I hope the FBI wasn't too hard on him.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/12-13-42.jpg http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/12-14-42.jpg LAT 12-14-42

This was the only picture I came across, via eBay. Not the greatest and has the dreaded watermark.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...-12-42fire.jpg ebay


Nice information about the Bowl and the Play. I've been trying to track down some recordings from those Bowl rallies. I came across the mention of a plan to turn the place into dorms for servicemen, but not confirmation that it was acted on.

so-cal-bear Jul 13, 2015 1:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7093068)
:previous: Very interesting post Martin.
"Eileen O. Laverty shows model of $200,000 apartment complex to be built on Bunker Hill,
called one of the greatest developments in downtown Los Angeles." (unrealized)

I believe it says 'coliseum on the white round building. (*actually it says Auditorium)
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According to, http://www.westegg.com/inflation/

$200,000 in 1950 is really not that impressive! I expected a more substantial number as well.

What cost $200,000 in 1950 would cost $1,940,689.04 in 2014.
Also, if you were to buy exactly the same products in 2014 and 1950,
they would cost you $200000 and $20733.68 respectively.

Noircitydame Jul 13, 2015 2:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7089884)
NANCY'S again.


Here's another great slide from the 1940s looking toward Hollywood and Vine.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/AwsbRk.jpg
eBay


*hmmmm...I just noticed the Luther (Lutheran?) Service Center sign at far right. (was this like an USO organization?)


Another photo E-R posted, in post #27163 give a broader look at the Lutheran Service Center, upstairs in the Schwab's menswear store building.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...vicecenter.jpg

oldstuff Jul 13, 2015 2:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7093139)
FIVE POINTS
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/sJA3IB.jpg
google_earth



This impressive old garage (red arrow above) is just a block south of 2517 Pasadena Ave (outlined in blue).


-street view June 2009 (in later views the façade is partially covered in vines)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...633/O6qc04.jpg
gsv

It's located at 2450 Daly Street.



note the impressive art deco detailing around the large doors. (the folding metal screens might be original as well)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/aM9w64.jpg
gsv

I need some help on it's history.

The assessor's office has its build date of 1935 and it is designated as commercial/industrial. Zillo indicates that the building is divided into lofts which are called "Telephone Company Lofts". Curbed LA has an article listing them as the Daly Lofts and a notation there says that the building was a garage for phone company vehicles.

tovangar2 Jul 13, 2015 4:49 PM

Los Angeles Alligator Farm
 
As we're out in Lincoln Heights, I thought I'd add one or two more pictures of the Los Angeles Alligator Farm. The Farm was on Mission Road from 1907 to 1953 when it moved to Buena Vista, across from Knott's Berry Farm, and renamed "The California Alligator Farm". It closed in 1984, after a 77 year run, and (per wiki) the critters were shipped to a private estate in Florida.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6914851)
-the Ostrich Farm and the Alligator Farm were next door to each other (see map below)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...661/B2Q4U9.png

As well as e_r's posts on the Alligator Farm, 3940dxer provided a charming postcard and BiffRayRock pretty much had the last word with a memorable and exhaustive post:
Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5818472)

The public face of the farm. "Drop In":
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8...92513%2BAM.jpg
lapl Herman J. Schultheis Collection

And the dark underbelly of the alligator business. LOL. Alligator Farm workers, exhibiting a variety of facial expressions, package babies for sale / shipment:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V...83643%2BAM.jpg
lapl

Interesting neighborhood, even had a Natatorium:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-B...03744%2BAM.jpg
1921 Baist

Today (note Selig Place):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G...04250%2BAM.jpg
google maps

------------------------------------------------------------

Wonderful post NCD re wartime romances and the Christmas mail fire. I really enjoyed it. Thank you.

ethereal_reality Jul 13, 2015 5:11 PM

Thanks tovanger2 and oldstuff for the information on the old telephone co. garage on Daly Street.



Close Call.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/tT4uNl.jpg
eBay


"Elysian Park's moving mountain finally collapsed on the night of Nov. 26th. The 'avalanche' carried some one million tons of earth down above a viaduct
demolishing the re-enforced concrete structure. Here is a big boulder that which 'pressed' against an automobile which had been parked on the street below the mountain."
11/28/1937

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/f4pgmn.jpg





This is my favorite. Amazing
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/908/0fz9tA.jpg
http://digital2.library.ucla.edu/vie...198/zz0025gn14

:previous: Can anyone read the name of the hotel?

*never mind. I just realized I could enlarge the photograph further.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/Qhs8sv.jpg


And there's a train I didn't see before.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...673/AQNMTN.jpg




originally posted by Martin_Pal back in March 2015.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/Axzr1g.jpg

Martin's post includes many other photographs and information on the event.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=26980
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Here are a few more recent finds that I don't think we've seen on NLA.

below: A week before the massive slide.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/HJZevY.jpg
eBay
info.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...538/4p2zEf.jpg




"rapidly widening"
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/YAujtr.jpg
eBay
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/aIINv5.jpg








close up of Dayton Street viaduct damage
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...912/07fjOh.jpg
eBay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...661/ztEwoq.jpg


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ethereal_reality Jul 13, 2015 5:24 PM

1924 Original Photograph Rooming House 432 N. Hill St. Los Angeles California Chas. Brown.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/UE9PE2.jpg
eBay




enlargement
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/6aidzR.jpg

two 'twin' houses?

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ethereal_reality Jul 13, 2015 5:43 PM

'mystery' man with the bedroom eyes.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...633/40DG8t.jpg
eBay

I think he's sweet on Beverly.





detail
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...537/NbjPV3.jpg
:previous: the photographer was 'Bruno of Hollywood'



Gerry spelled with an I...I bet he was in show business. ;)
Does anyone recognize him?
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Earl Boebert Jul 13, 2015 7:36 PM

Some shots of 1971 LA, grabbed from the "Cannon" series.

We start at the Hotel Always Open, because evil, like rust, never sleeps:

http://www.bitsmasherpress.com/LANoir/Cannon1.jpg

Evil hits the street, and the game's afoot. Oops, this LA: the game's a-wheel.

http://www.bitsmasherpress.com/LANoir/Cannon2.jpg

Our hero stealthily picks up the tail of an innocent:

http://www.bitsmasherpress.com/LANoir/Cannon4.jpg

Whom he prepares to rescue in the sumptuous courtyard of the Hotel Always Open:

http://www.bitsmasherpress.com/LANoir/Cannon3.jpg

Meanwhile, in the better part of town:

http://www.bitsmasherpress.com/LANoir/Cannon5.jpg

And after making all well, our hero reflects on what it must be like:

http://www.bitsmasherpress.com/LANoir/Cannon6.jpg

Thought the crew might get a few moments of amusement from locating the locations :-)

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality Jul 13, 2015 7:38 PM

Leo Katz mural "Youth Arisen", Frank Wiggins Trade School, Los Angeles, 1935.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/aJuHKZ.jpg
http://digital2.library.ucla.edu/vie...198/zz002883gp

I posted this is because I was wondering if the mural was still intact at Abram Freidman Occupational School (formerly the Frank Wiggins Trade School)

but then I noticed this side-note in the description:

" The central panel (the one pictured above) was removed from the Frank Wiggins Trade School lobby and returned to the Public Works Administration in 1935.
The other two panels were returned in 1939."
-UCLA Archives

Does anyone know...is there a repository for WPA artwork? I'd really like to know if "Youth Arisen" has survived.






As a reminder, here's the school.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6499826)
The Frank Wiggins Trade School. (southeast corner of Venice Blvd. and S. Olive Street)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/69/krt7.jpg
www.vimeo.com/14429162


Here it is today from pretty much the same angle.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/703/qk46.jpg
gsv


Martin Pal Jul 13, 2015 9:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7093498)
Wonderful post NCD re wartime romances and the Christmas mail fire. I really enjoyed it. Thank you.

:previous:

I second the motion, NCD, thanks for sharing the photos and family intrigue!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7093173)
a certain coolness exits between her family and ours, stemming apparently from my mom calling her daughter "Sleeping Ugly"
at a slumber party in 1962. The phrase "get over it" comes to mind, but I know I'll not likely ever see those pictures.

Interesting how one little remark can be a thorn in the lion's paw for so many years. (All family's have at least one of those, I'd say.)
Though a point of contention for your family, sharing it with us made me laugh, thank you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7093173)
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...obelle/009.jpg
Jack Howell. His girlfriend, Flo, wrote on the back of this one "He took some cuter ones but I'm stingy!"
I wish I knew Jack's family; I have pictures from their wedding June 29, 1946.

It's probably mundane, but do you have any idea what that object is by "Sailor Jack's" foot?

The other sailor, with the comb, stunned me a bit because he's a spittin' image of my young neighbor, Lenny!
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Thanks for the Union Station fire info and photo...I didn't know they'd found the cause of it! I guess they put 16 year olds
to work overnight back then. And smoking, too! I guess I hadn't realized the fire was in a tented area. Imagine some of the
stories caused by 35 tons (!) of holiday mail during World War II disappearing? Lost letters and gifts. Burnt photographs.
Hurt feelings. Confused children. Missed opportunities. G.I. mail that wasn't delivered. Information never to be known. "It's
the thought that counts." Most people probably would never have known about the fire and wonder about what happened
to their mail. Some may have used it to their advantage: "I bought you this expensive gift...it must've been in that fire!"

:tup: to you!

Martin Pal Jul 13, 2015 9:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7093009)
By the way, the Pilgrimage Play Theatre, now called the John Anson Ford Amphitheatre since 1976, is
closed this summer.

From an L.A. Times article:

The rumble of construction machinery and the thwack of carpentry will be the summer sounds for
2015 at the 1,196-seat county-owned outdoor John Anson Ford Amphitheatre, which is closing for
at least a year and a half for a [near] $20-million renovation project. While the makeover is underway,
the dancers and musicians who usually hold sway at the theater will fan out to other, as yet undetermined
venues around Los Angeles County.

Since the Ford Amphitheatre is so close to the Hollywood Bowl and both are outside venues, they really do try to schedule events
so that they don't or won't interfere with each other. That didn't happen when I attended the Bowl on a Friday night sometime
in the 90's. One of the featured performers that night was Rosemary Clooney. Playing at the Ford Amphitheatre was a punk
rock group, I believe. So, throughout the concert one also had the occasional background track of a completely opposite musical
style. It was a hot summer night and, reminiscent of Streisand's famous rendition of "Silent Night" sung in her summer night concert
in Central Park back in the 60's, Rosemary sang "White Christmas" from the popular film she had starred in, but it was a disonant
version you'd never want to hear again. The Bowl management profusely apologized, on stage, and said they were trying to
do something about it. (But what could they do at that point?)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7093097)
Early entrances to the Hollywood Bowl (no specific dates :(, sorry)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/MxvGKK.jpg
eBay

Traffic hasn't changed around there one bit, I guess! It always seems like that! (Even undated, lol!)

Loved these photos, E_R, particularly the unusual "model" one of the new entrance,
which opened in 1939. They should've put more cars in it, though! :P

A couple interesting Hollywood Bowl notes I found along the way:

View of the Hollywood Bowl as seen from the top of the seating, looking down towards the stage, 1923.
http://waterandpower.org/Historical_..._Bowl_1923.jpgLAPL Image Archive

In 1923, the Hollywood Bowl’s first 150 boxes were built. Also in 1923, the Hollywood Bowl’s debt
was paid off and the mortgage was burned (!) on the Bowl’s stage. Among the donors who helped retire
the debt were three-time presidential candidate William Jennings Bryan, who made a $100 donation.Info from: L.A. Philharmonic Bowl Moments

Also from L.A. Phil's Bowl Moments: In 1923, with the re-paving of Highland Avenue sure to disrupt the Hollywood Bowl’s season,
Bowl leader Artie Mason Carter [AMC-heh!] took to the streets to protest the city’s work. She and another woman manned “battle
positions” in rocking chairs (with their knitting) in the middle of Highland Avenue and refused to allow crews to break up the street.

Protesting roadwork on Highland Avenue, 1923.
http://waterandpower.org/3%20Histori..._Bowl_1923.jpgHollywood Bowl Philpedia

The result? Paving was rescheduled for the 1923 Bowl’s off-season.
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I didn't know this:

Hollywood High School held its first graduation at the Hollywood Bowl in 1920 and has continued to do so each year since then.

Undated:
http://waterandpower.org/Historical_...graduation.jpgLAPL Image Archive

oldstuff Jul 13, 2015 9:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7093779)
Leo Katz mural "Youth Arisen", Frank Wiggins Trade School, Los Angeles, 1935.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/aJuHKZ.jpg
http://digital2.library.ucla.edu/vie...198/zz002883gp

I posted this is because I was wondering if the mural was still intact at Abram Freidman Occupational School (formerly the Frank Wiggins Trade School)

but then I noticed this side-note in the description:

" The central panel (the one pictured above) was removed from the Frank Wiggins Trade School lobby and returned to the Public Works Administration in 1935.
The other two panels were returned in 1939."
-UCLA Archives

Does anyone know...is there a repository for WPA artwork? I'd really like to know if "Youth Arisen" has survived.






As a reminder, here's the school.

Here is the link to a book which references the painting and indicates why it was taken out: https://archive.org/stream/californi...8cali_djvu.txt
but there does not seem to be any indication of where it went

tovangar2 Jul 13, 2015 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7093932)
...do you have any idea what that object is by "Sailor Jack's" foot?

A very early Kodak Duaflex or similar?

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-q...33818%2BPM.jpg
wiki

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7093173)


Martin Pal Jul 13, 2015 11:09 PM

:previous:
Thanks, tovangar2, it dawned on me after I'd made the inquiry it might be a camera!
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There's been a dozen or two posts showing incarnations of Carpenter's Drive-In's.


HossC's post #17962 has photo's of Carpenter's Drive-In and links to some other posts of the same.

Segments from the above post:


Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6357272)
I know there were several Carpenter's restaurants (the 1936 CD lists them at 6285 and 6290 Sunset Blvd., 667 S Western Av., 1250 S Vermont Av. and 3201 Wilshire Blvd.)

the [Sunset/Vine] image below, taken in 1932, shows the original octagonal design.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ersDriveIn.jpg
Huntington Digital Library

The [Sunset/Vine] circular drive-in dates from after its redesign. The picture below is dated 1945.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rsDriveIn3.jpg
army arch on Flickr

Nighttime view of Carpenter’s Sandwich at the S/E corner Sunset and Vine. 1940's.
http://waterandpower.org/4%20Histori...e_In_1940s.jpgDWP

What caught my eye is this:

This Carpenter's Drive-In replaced the one located near the northeast corner of Sunset and Vine (6265 Sunset Blvd),
which was torn down in 1938 to make room for the new NBC Radio City building.

I looked through most all of the posts on NLA concerning this Carpenter's at Sunset and Vine and I don't
think it's clear that we 1.) knew the Drive-In was remodeled (rebuilt) because it moved across the street
to make way for the NBC Building that was being constructed, or 2.) that there were two Carpenter's for
awhile across the street from each other.

At least I didn't know that.

The info that HossC posted: "The 1936 CD lists [Carpenter's] at 6285 and 6290 Sunset Blvd." indicates
two locations, then, maybe they did have one on both corners for a time? (And the info I posted says
the address was "6265", slightly off the CD list.)

And speaking of the NBC Radio City building being constructed, I have no idea what this was originally
published in, but I found this link to a three page 1938 article titled "Is Radio Moving to Hollywood?" and
it's about the NBC building construction and the possibility of radio moving to L.A. from N.Y and what
will Hollywood do? There's a few photos and some tidbits like: "The construction was delayed by the
recent floods." (1938.)

http://www.durenberger.com/resources...LYWOOD0638.pdf

Tetsu Jul 14, 2015 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7093068)
:previous: Very interesting post Martin.






Have we seen this on NLA before?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/yMDp36.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/o7e0vS.jpg
found in an old file of mine.








The so-called 'slums, blight - crowded' were to be replaced by this $200,000 apartment complex. (what is that in today's money CityBoyDoug?)

1950
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/901/yLG8tn.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=34631

"Eileen O. Laverty shows model of $200,000 apartment complex to be built on Bunker Hill,
called one of the greatest developments in downtown Los Angeles." (unrealized)

I believe it says 'coliseum on the white round building. (*actually it says Auditorium)
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It's always equal parts amusing and saddening to see photos of the Bunker Hill low-cost public housing sham that LA was duped with. :hell:

Tetsu Jul 14, 2015 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7093082)
"1924 Original PASADENA Photo HOUSE on SO. EL MOLINA & ALPINE ST. California."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/nFaAw9.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...907/MbokDz.jpg


reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/Zoiy0C.jpg



I drove the google-mobile in the vicinity and located the house at 979 S. El Molino.http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...910/1NmqTb.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/uAHz77.jpg
gsv

..and it's a Greene & Greene!


"Located in Pasadena's Madison Heights neighborhood, this historic Greene & Greene Craftsman was commissioned by Dr. Samuel Crow in 1909. The house was subsequently purchased by Edward Crocker, who was responsible for doubling the size of the property by purchasing land to the west of the residence and enhancing it with extensive gardens and out buildings designed by Henry Greene. Built on a U-shaped plan with a center courtyard, the 3,168 square-foot bungalow features four bedrooms, three baths, formal living and dining rooms, two fireplaces, a sunroom with stained glass skylights, wood-paneled halls, a separate guest cottage, swimming pool, and detached garage with caretaker's quarters."

The property has been owned by the same family since 1958!
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the garage, mentioned above, is very large.

here it is
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...661/RjCExc.jpg
redfin


aerial
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...909/WYtdnb.png
I think this must be the garage (red arrow)
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979 S. El Molino's neighbor is an attractive Craftsman as well (below, on the left)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/iGmmbq.jpg
gsv

Perhaps it's a Greene & Greene as well.

I don't think the Crow-Crocker's neighbor is a Greene & Greene, but it may have well been the work of one or both of the Heineman brothers, Arthur & Alfred, who did many (if not most) of the great Pasadena Craftsmans that weren't designed by the brothers Greene. There's a Michael Locke photo gallery with some of their works to be found here. They're also credited with the development of the bungalow court, though I've also heard that the first bungalow court was the St. Francis Court in Pasadena, designed by Sylvanus Marston.

Arthur Heineman is also credited with designing the first motel, Motel Inn in San Luis Obispo. My apologies if we've covered all this stuff already.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...2880459%29.jpgWikipedia

CityBoyDoug Jul 14, 2015 1:05 AM

Fresh from Muscle Beach, Venice, CA
 
;)
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7093779)
Leo Katz mural "Youth Arisen", Frank Wiggins Trade School, Los Angeles, 1935.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/aJuHKZ.jpg
http://digital2.library.ucla.edu/vie...198/zz002883gp

I posted this is because I was wondering if the mural was still intact at Abram Freidman Occupational School (formerly the Frank Wiggins Trade School)

but then I noticed this side-note in the description:

" The central panel (the one pictured above) was removed from the Frank Wiggins Trade School lobby and returned to the Public Works Administration in 1935.
The other two panels were returned in 1939."
-UCLA Archives

Does anyone know...is there a repository for WPA artwork? I'd really like to know if "Youth Arisen" has survived.

Thanks ER for posting this grand exposition. It gave me some food for thought!

Its very easy for me to see why this mural didn't really sit well with the cultural mores of the 1930s. Its the central figure that goes over the edge
and sits squarely in the realm of what is called today ...soft core porn.

His ''proportions'' are wildly off key and for some reason... just plain kinky.

Its one thing to be classically nude and its another to be in your face as this fellow appears to be. It doesn't bother me but I can see why a lot of 1930s people would say..."I don't think so."

The various symbolisms scattered throughout the saga are harmless and excruciatingly vague. Even the pendulous breasts eagerly echo the Daliesque women of that era. But its that precursor of a
Speedo that leaps at you, as if to assault, and wants to collide with your face.

Now, if the artist wanted to achieve the effect I describe above....he achieved it in spades.:tup:


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