An aerial of the Occidental Center with the Chamber of Commerce Building still intact.


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Below: Say goodbye to the Chamber of Commerce Building. :(

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Can you tell I had a lot of time on my hands today? lol
It was a snow day here in the midwest.

OK I admit, my last posts have been a little dry.


Below: Abbe Lane posing in front of Ciro's in 1954.


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Below: The Follies at 337 S. Main Street in 1946.

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Below: Mr. Muscle Beach 1957, Venice CA.

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Sex sells. ;)

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You sold me. And I was about to post something fascinating about Occidental apparently utilizing the C & C building before tearing it down-- the rooftop and cornice signs... anyway, I certainly don't mind having my attention diverted to another structure... Also love that in one of the other pics we see that Xavier Cugat was also at Ciro's...

:previous:

Ah, a bit of cheesecake and beefcake. Something for everyone. ;)

Those are great photos of the Chamber of Commerce building too, ethereal. I didn't know that that building even existed. I'm wondering what else was torn down to build what is now called the AT&T Center (I've always known it as the Transamerica Center). I'm wondering how that area evolved.

A bit of scholastica.

USC, 1940. Trousdale Parkway. This is back when USC wasn't an enclosed campus, but had actual streets with through traffic running through it.
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USC, circa 1946. The Bovard Auditorium, on the corner of Trousdale Parkway and Childs Way.
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This was captioned as "Student examining catalog card in Doheny Memorial Library, on the campus of the University of Southern California, ca. 1950s." Judging by his crew cut and the cut of his jacket, I would think this was the very late 1950s, maybe even 1960.
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Now this I recognize. On the left is the old Student Union, my very first job ever was in the bookstore, which was in that building (it has had it's own building further down Childs Way since 1989)

When I started at USC in the fall of 1976, they pretty much had the same sidewalks and street set up as in the above pictures, although by then, Trousdale Parkway had been sealed off from the outside, and access was pretty much limited to official University vehicles who used a key card to pass a gate set up at (I think) W. 34th St. Sometime later, they redid the streets and got rid of the sidewalks so that it was a continuous mall type deal (though vehicles could still drive on the street). I forget when it was done, but I know it was before the 1984 Summer Olympics. You can get an idea of what it looked like after that (and today) on Tommy Cam

sopas_ej, your photos of USC with streets running through it are great.
I just figured it was always a street free "campus"....I should have known better. duh


GylordWilshire, tell us your story of how Occidental Life utilized the old Chamber of Commerce building.
You mentioned something about the rooftop.

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Well, no story-- I just noticed that in a couple of your pics of the Chamber of Commerce that Oxy Life seems to have once occupied the old building--there is a painted OCCIDENTAL sign on the rear (ne) corner above the Examiner bldg (post #2248, third pic down), and a script rooftop sign (post #2251). The script sign replaced the WESTERN STATES LIFE sign seen in the second pic of post #2249. It seems logical that a company named Western States might have become Occidental, but a cursory Google doesn't bear that out.

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Another photo looking south showing an Occidental sign on the C of C on 12th Street.

OK, I see it now. I had completely missed it in this aerial photo. You have a good eye GW.

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The YWCA at 251-255 Hill Street.

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Above: Notice Angels Flight in the lower left corner, next to the vegetarian cafeteria.









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^It says "KENSINGTON."

Thank you "Mr. Downtown". I couldn't read that sign at all.

The Chamber of Commerce was John C. Austin and Donald Parkinson. Would be a pretty grand preservation fight were someone to try and knock it down today.

Nov. 6, 1967:

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More about the Occidental Center
http://www.lottaliving.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6109

It's funny to see this picture. Whenever I would drive on the 101 South and take it 5 South, I would look to my right and see a paved road. I always wondered what it was until one day, I don't know how, I uncovered it being a part of an interchange.

The long interchange connected to what is now a freeway that is a part of the 101, but then splits into the 60 East or the 5 south. It runs along the border of Boyle Heights.

Always loved this building. I think people don't see it enough because they're always looking at Julia Morgan's Examiner.

This was the Commercial Club of Southern California, a men's club with 1400 members when Mayor Cryer broke ground Dec. 31, 1924.

How can you not cotton to a brick & terra cotta Italian Renaissance high-rise replete with billiard and card rooms, lush lounges, paneled dining rooms, swimming pool, gymnasium and turkish bath on sixth floor, and a fifth floor just for ladies? The top six floors had rooms for all the leaders of industry, and whatever their needs may have been. The floor plans were executed by Edwin Bergstrom, the general plans, Curlett & Beelman.

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USC DigArch http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...NG-CIT-BUI-041

From what I can ascertain it became the Case Hotel just after the war. In 1965 the federal Office of Economic Opportunity turned it into a girl's vocational school. http://www.flickr.com/photos/auntylaurie/4980967684/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/7976130...n/photostream/

Never have been inside to investigate what may be left of its originality...

The shape of the rooftop sign, vis a vis the actual lettering, is a little odd, isn't it? I uncovered these, which show the structure of the signage as having an older origin:

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USCDigArch http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...arch/CHS-36024

February, 1932. Look at that massive sign -- do you see what it's doing? It has a star/rocket/firework, whatever, that shoots up from its left, makes an arc along the top, descends down to just above the lettering, and explodes into many (for lack of a better term) explody bursts! Obviously all done in hundreds of incandescent bulbs, probably of many varied colors. What I wouldn't give to go back and see that.

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(Captain Paul Chandler [l] and Louey Shuck [r] on the Chamber of Commerce rooftop.) http://jpg1.lapl.org/00081/00081873.jpg

For more than you could conceivably want to know about this building, see http://www.onbunkerhill.org/HotelBelmont

Can't help but wonder if the architect was hip to the '57 Armet & Davis Donly's (later Conrad's, now Astro)...

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http://www.you-are-here.com/modern/astro.html

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some images of the demolition of the old courthouse.

this image clearly shows the elevator machine equipment for the exterior "honeymoon" elevator that was hidden within the tower spire

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Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...03E0FE7C8?v=hr

the next two images are the newspaper photographic engraving plate and subsequent article image about the courthouse demolition

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sigh................:(

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this last image has nothing to do with the demolition of the structure. it's a very striking 1933 image that was taken with an infra red filter

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...ABF138662?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...ABF138662?v=hr

Ok all, Los Angeles Magazine (or so it became in April of '61, after having been named LA and then Prompter) has archived all of their covers. The vast majority are of celebrities or what then passed for celebrity, which is enjoyable in its own right. But as you can see, many, especially the earlier issues, are of a different bent...

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And they ooze with all the midcentury artwork appeal. Remember when Adolph Gottlieb attacked LA?

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See 'em all here:

http://origin-www.lamag.com/photopages/albums.aspx

That was the ramp from the westbound San Bernardino Frwy to the southbound Santa Ana Frwy. Once I-5 was built, it was redundant and probably came out when the El Monte Busway went in. HistoricAerials.com still shows it in 1980:
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NGZ--Noir Ground Zero--1948 and 2005


Thanks to MrDowntown for introducing me to historicaerials.com--the shots above are just a sample. The site itself allows for comparisons by splitscreen and overlays in various formats at various points from 1948 to 2005. Next stop, Berkeley Square.

When it comes to vanished L.A. neighborhoods, my personal favorite is Berkeley Square, written of here in a number of posts by gsjansen, myself and others. Briefly, Berkeley Square was a private, gated street in the West Adams district approximately parallel to 22nd Street between Western and Gramercy. Successful downtown businessmen, lawyers, doctors, etc, commissioned top architects to build sizeable houses of all sorts of designs. Among the designers were Alfred Rosenheim, Myron Hunt, Elmer Grey, Robert Farquhar, Merl Lee Barker, Arthur B. Benton, and no less than the Greene brothers. It began in 1904, with a few original families remaining until the (very) bitter end ca. 1962, when, after at least a decade of decline, the 10 came through. As these photos reveal, the 10 itself really only took out the houses on north side of the street, although those along the south side went along for the ride into oblivion by being demolished for a school, all this destruction leaving behind only a possible bit of curbing toward the Gramercy end. Pictures of the street and the individual houses are hard to come by. There are a few aerial shots around, but now that I know about historicaerials.com, thanks to Mr Downtown, we can have good side-by-side then-and-later comparisons of Berkeley Square, perhaps even more dramatic than the shots of Bunker Hill below. (I've chosen 1954 and 1972 for comparison because the images are the clearest.)


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1954: Berkeley Square is the wide street at center


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1954/1972


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1972/1954

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1972: I am actually amazed to see that the Lee Phillips house at #4 (right center below the ".COM") was still standing in 1972. Phillips was a Los Angeles lawyer who also built the house in Beverly Hills that became Pickfair. Subsequent owners included Haig Marquis Prince, an owner of downtown and Hollywood office buildings whose secretary once slapped him with a paternity suit. The last owner was Bishop "Sweet Daddy" Grace. The picture below is only the tip of an iceberg of amusements when it comes to the bishop--Sister Aimee was a shy nun compared to him. He's worth Googling.

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Top four photos historicaerials.com

Thanks very much for that photo, Mr Downtown. And thanks for that website! I'm all looking at different intersections now, from where I grew up, to where I live now, and everything else. Great resource. :tup:

Beaudry, great Los Angeles Magazine covers! I like the artwork for the November 1963 issue, and that topic: Downtown: Is it worth saving?

Beaudry, your posts are amazing.
I loved reading about the Commercial Club of Southern California (Case Hotel).




Below: The Broadway Hotel in the Wilson Block, 1910.


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Below: Looking north at Spring St. & Main, 1906.
This photo is a bit odd...to me it looks much earlier than 1906.
Also, I hope to god that girl is not choking a puppy.


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Looking north on Broadway from Fourth Street, 1905. Notice the beautiful streetlights.


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Below: The Occidental Hotel on the east side of Hill Street between Fourth & Fifth Street, 1910


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I'm not sure if these have been posted before.




The view west from City Hall showing Hill Street between 2nd & 3rd St. in 1900.

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Below: Another photograph of the same area.

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Below: This photograph is dated 1888.


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Below: A view from 1906.

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Below: The same general area in 1898.

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Below: On the extreme right is a portion of the sign Beaudry is describing.
Here it seems the firework/bursts are still there but the lettering is missing.



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The prop plane is an added bonus.

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Great photos, ethereal.

And wow, 10 cents to park in that lot all day? I would think that even back then, 10 cents to park all day would be a bargain, considering that 10 cents paid for a cup of coffee back then, no?

A view north from the roof of the Chamber of Commerce in 1932.

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Below: Another view north from the roof of the Chamber of Commerce Building in 1937.

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Below: Here is an undated view from the roof of the Chamber of Commerce Building.

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Hi Sopas: In the late 30's and into the 40's I believe that a cup of coffee was a nickel, as was a phone call or a bottle of Pepsi, and that ten cents bought a loaf of bread.

if it keeps on raining the levee's gonna break........
 

Charles Mallory Hatfield (c. 1875 – January 12, 1958) was an American "rainmaker". He was born in Fort Scott, Kansas in 1875 or 1876. His family moved to southern California in the 1880s. As an adult, he became a salesman for the New Home Sewing Machine Company. In 1904 he moved to Glendale, California.

In his free time he read about "pluviculture" and began to develop his own methods for producing rain. By 1902 he had created a secret mixture of 23 chemicals in large galvanized evaporating tanks that, he claimed, attracted rain. Hatfield called himself a "moisture accelerator".

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In 1904, promoter Fred Binney began a public relations campaign for Hatfield. A number of Los Angeles ranchers saw his ads in newspapers and promised Hatfield $50 to produce rain. In April, Hatfield and his brother Paul climbed to Mount Lowe and built a tower where Hatfield stood and released his mixture into the air. Hatfield's apparent attempt was successful, so the ranchers paid him $100.

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Contemporary Weather Bureau reports stated that the rain had been a small part of a storm that was already coming but Hatfield's supporters disregarded this. He began to receive more job offers. He promised Los Angeles 18 inches of rain, apparently succeeded, and collected a fee of $1000. For this effort, Hatfield had built his tower on the grounds of the Esperanza Sanitarium in Altadena, near Rubio Canyon.

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In 1915 the San Diego city council, pressured by the San Diego Wide Awake Improvement Club, approached Hatfield to produce rain to fill the Morena Dam reservoir. Hatfield offered to produce rain for free, then charge $1,000 per inch for between forty to fifty inches and free again over fifty inches. The council voted four to one for a $10,000 fee, payable when the reservoir was filled.

Councilman Walter P. Moore is to have commented, “If he fills Morena, he will have put 10 billion gallons into it, which would cost the city one tenth of a cent per gallon; if he fails to fulfill his contract, the city isn’t out anything. Its heads the city wins, tails Hatfield loses.”

Hatfield headed for Lake Moreno with his youngest brother Joel, not waiting for a written agreement. By Jan. 1, he built a large tower where he sent chemicals into the air via evaporation from a large shallow pan.

The Hatfield tower at lake Morena
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Source: San Diego History http://www.sandiegohistory.org/journ.../images/p8.jpg

On January 5, 1916 heavy rain began - and grew gradually heavier day by day.

Between the 15th and the 19th, the mountains east of San Diego received more than 17 inches of rain. Near Old Town, the San Diego River wiped out the concrete bridge and the Santa Fe Railroad bridge, which was weighted down with freight cars.

Flooding in the Tijuana River Valley wiped out a small community known as “Little Landers” killing two and leaving 100 people without homes.

The Sweetwater Dam in southeast San Diego County, built in January 1888, had overflowed safely during storms in 1895. But this time the spillway was not large enough to contain the water, and two sections of the abutments were destroyed.

The Lower Otay Dam, where water level rose more than 27 feet in 10 days, gave way on Jan. 27th. Thirteen million gallons of water were released, sending a wall 20-40 feet high toward the Tijuana River Valley. Farms, citrus groves and homes were swept downstream.


The tide is starting to rise at lower otay dam
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Lake Morena filled to the brim
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Source: San Diego History http://www.sandiegohistory.org/journ...mages/p20t.jpg

The remains of the sweetwater dam
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Source: San Diego History http://www.sandiegohistory.org/journ...images/p25.jpg

The remains of the concrete bridge in old town
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Source: San Diego History http://www.sandiegohistory.org/journ...images/p18.jpg

The next morning, the city treasurer and Naval Reserve officer Don Stewart, surveyed the damage where the river met the ocean. He found a delta several hundred yards wide. Debris from the dam 12 miles inland lay on the beach. He saw many Japanese residents who lived in the valley looking for their dead from small boats. Estimates of deaths varied from 18-65 in the aftermath.

Lake Morena received more than 35 inches of rain, enough to rise 18 inches above the crest of the dam. Hatfield had completed his part of the deal.

Downtown San Diego after the deluge
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Hatfield talked to the press on February 4 and said that the damage was not his fault and that the city should have taken adequate precautions. Hatfield had fulfilled the requirements of his contract - filling the reservoir - but the city council refused to pay the money unless Hatfield would accept liability for damages; there were already claims worth $3.5 million.Hatfield tried to settle for $4000 and then sued the council. In two trials, the rain was ruled an act of God but Hatfield continued the suit until 1938 when the court threw the case out.

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Hatfield with his brother
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By the end of the 20's, hatfield's rainmaking career in southern california was coming to an end. The Colorado River and the Boulder Dam Act of 1928 created water for a thirsty California, the Great Depression came, and scientists eventually learned to squeeze water from rain clouds by sprinkling them with silver iodide crystals. Hatfield’s career as a rainmaker had dried up. He settled in Eagle Rock, and once again began selling sewing machines as he had many long years before.

Charles Hatfield was offered large sums for his rainmaking process on several occasions. Hatfield decided the formula was "too devastating a force to unleash to any one individual, or to a group of bureaucrats who might misuse it. When Hatfield died in 1958, he took his secret to the grave

Charles Hatfield attends the opening of the Burt Lancaster movie, "The Rainmaker" in 1956

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Apropos theme gsjansen. Here are some more historic flood images in honor or our current deluge.

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February 27, 1938. Heavy rains caused by a storm from the Pacific Ocean led to the flooding of Santa Ana, San Gabriel and Los Angele’s rivers. 115 dead, 5,601 homes destroyed
http://www.247quoteus.com/general/67...ural-disasters


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A 1903 flood inundates Compton, California
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Flood damaged street, Los Angeles, California, USA, c1960. Artist: Unknown
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Los Angeles River and Victory Boulevard 1938.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Flood_of_1938

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Flower Street 1955.
http://www.americahurrah.com/Flood55/LosAngeles.htm


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1938, Los Angeles Street, Anaheim
Photograph donated by Ewold Schulz.
Anaheim Public Library Photograph Collection
http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt8199q44r/


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1938, Intersection of Los Angeles Street and Broadway, Anaheim
Anaheim Public Library Photograph Collection
http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt5w101897/


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Montrose: In this view, the photographer is standing where Mayfield Ave used to be, looking down toward the intersection of Rosemont and Montrose. The flood had spread out at this point, creating a wide moonscape where houses and streets had been the night before. The Los Angeles County Coroner’s Office collected 40 bodies and noted 75 people missing by January 4, 1934. Three years after the disaster, 45 persons remained unaccounted for.
Photo: Historical Society of the Crescenta Valley.
http://blogging.la/2009/04/23/songs-...woody-guthrie/

And, of course, the infamous Baldwin Hills Dam disaster in 1963.
• Video Link

The flood photos are very interesting.
I would love to know what was in Chas. Hatfield's "moisture accelerator" (only 23 ingredients...perhaps I can figure it out) ;)

I remember when I lived in L.A. an inch or two of rain created driving CHAOS.
The winter rains would arrive on schedule after many months of dry weather.
The rain would blend with the oil on the city streets and create a frighteningly slick surface.

Very interesting flood photos and story.

Ah, thanks. Still a bargain, I think. I would love to be able to park in a lot downtown for the price of a loaf of bread today.

Has anyone else looked at these great street scene pictures and caught themselves trying to "grab" them with the mouse cursor and move them around a la Google Street View?

Hmmm, "Google Past View", wouldn't that be cool?

two views looking north on main street past the temple block and temple street from the same spot (and altitude) of the se corner of main and market......62 years apart

1863

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-2821?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-2821?v=hr

1925

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Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-35903?v=hr

looking se across hill street from clay street and third street 1876......25 years before Colonel Eddy would build angels flight

the wolfskill orange grove is off in the distance

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Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-6955?v=hr

looking east from third street and clay street 1889. note the panorama skating rink on main street between 3rd and 4th, and the arcade train station off in the distance at 5th and central on the site of the old wolfskill orange grove

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Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-4303?v=hr

looking south down broadway from on top of fort moore hill 1906

wow!

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Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-7044?v=hr

Excellent finds gsgansen.

I especially LOVE this one.

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The Post Office looks very regal.....and you can also see the detailing on the Temple Block (lower left).

This is a great "then-and-then"! Could the latter pic have been taken from the very tip-top of the NW cupola of the U.S. Hotel? Is that the tower of the Amestoy that I see there in the right foreground?

And in the earlier view - it looks like the exact same vantage point. Can it be possible that the United States Hotel stood there as early as 1863?

-Scott

Construction of the Harbor Freeway, 1952.




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Construction of the Harbor Freeway, 1952.




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Ghost sign for the Mt. Lowe Railway.




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Photograph I found on ebay.

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Sott, when i saw the two images i immediately thought of you. your interest in not only this particular corner, but also the U.S. hotel and amestoy building is well known.........

i will try and find out as much as i can about the 1863 photo

Why thank you thank you. I cotton to anything about men's clubs because I warm to the idea of telling the wife I'm "at my club" playing billiards and smoking cigars, and of course having my club's name engraved on my calling card and printed in the social directory!

As for this photo, I think it's fascinating to consider it 1906 (above and beyond the puppy-strangling element). I'm sure there are light-pole and street-car-wire experts who can date this to the year-month-and-day; I just think that it's correct because after having read a stack of LA history books, especially the vintage ones, they all paint the same picture: Los Angeles was, until the 20s, basically a backwater, jerkwater place. That's of course oversimplified, we can argue boom and bust til the cows come home, but despite what anyone likes to believe about the city now, it was historically overwhelmingly white, Presbyterian, (need I mention it sided with The South in the Civil War), and lagged behind just about every other major metropolitan area in terms of providing services. That this may be 1906 and indicate an area that was ten-fifteen years out of date is spot-on.

This is the odd duck out of all those awesome shots of Bunker Hill shot up 3rd across Hill -- this is looking north on 3rd across Cinnabar (the Rageley is at the NE corner) and 3rd & Flower is left-center.