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sopas ej Jan 29, 2011 4:23 AM

A rainy day in 1952, 7th and Broadway.
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/416...ndbroadway.jpg
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Wrightguy0 Jan 29, 2011 4:36 AM

@ MikeD i've been following this one since 2007, and rockstar has painstakingly recreated 1947 LA as best as they can, i've seen screen shots from the game and i swear they've been lifted from this thread, it's so accurate and gorgeous

sopas ej Jan 29, 2011 5:50 AM

Broadway, 1957
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/2...oadway1957.jpg
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Main Street, looking at old Plaza, Pico House, Merced Theater and Masonic Hall, 1957
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/368...edtheaterm.jpg
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Spring and Temple, 1957. The LA Times Building, old State Building, old Hall of Records, retaining wall of the old County Courthouse with temporary courthouse bungalows on the site and Hall of Justice building.
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/3...temple1957.jpg
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Looking west from 2nd and Broadway, 1957
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5...oadway1957.jpg
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The Jonathan Club at 6th and Figueroa, 1957
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/380...gueroa1957.jpg
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Los Angeles Past Jan 29, 2011 7:24 AM

:previous: Love these city views. Love the cars even more! :tup:

-Scott

Los Angeles Past Jan 29, 2011 7:25 AM

Hill and First, then & now
 
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/v...southonhil.jpg
USC Digital Library

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/v...andhillnow.jpg
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Sebisebster Jan 29, 2011 2:42 PM

More then and now
 
I love this kind of pics (thanks to Los Angeles Past for his incredible and awesome work with his 'then and now' images)


Some of the next following pictures could have been already reposted. Please correct me if I'm not correct with locations and dates:

-3rd St intersection with Flower St. 1952 and 2009.


http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/2...er1952andm.jpg

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West mouth of the 3rd St tunnel (or west side of the tunnel). Does anybody know about those beautifull victorian homes on Bunker Hill?


-Figueroa St, looking south, 1970 and 2005:

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/8...st19702005.jpg

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-Hope and Wilshire, 1951 and now.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2...re1951andn.jpg

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-Northbounds of the Harbor Freeway, 1973 and now:

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/4...1974andnow.jpg

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The tower in construction in the picture above might be the Aon Center Tower. The present day view shows a very dense skyline, and we can not see the Aon Tower anymore, as new towers are seen in the foreground, like for instance the 777 Tower.


-More northbounds of the Harbor Freeway: aerial views and some Google Earth help:


http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1...borfreeway.jpg

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First picture on the left shows a perfect view of the Statler Hotel, and the old art-decó, now vanished, Richfield Tower. Also we can see Bunker Hill far in the distance. The next one on the right, dated by 1968, shows the first works for the construction of the Union Bank Plaza. The lower picture on the left, dated in 1970, shows the 'bunkerhillization' aftermath: Union Bank tower completed, vacant lots, and no more Bunker Hill homes. The Richfield Tower is gone. And finally a 3d skecth from Google Earth: welcome to L.A.!


-Bunker Hill towers as seen from LADWP in 1988 and now:

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7...rs1988andn.jpg

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The picture above shows a thin building under construction: The Library Tower taking shape. The present day photo give us a new tower: a little difficult to see, it's the Two California Plaza, behind his little brother, on the left part of the picture. The Walt Disney Concert Hall is also seen.


-Bunker Hill as seen from the City Hall deck observation, in 1939 and in 2009:


http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6696/bunkerhill.jpg

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Los Angeles Past Jan 29, 2011 4:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebisebster (Post 5144207)
I love this kind of pics (thanks to Los Angeles Past for his incredible and awesome work with his 'then and now' images)


Thank you for the compliment! Personally, I'm a big fan of gsjansen's and sopas_ej's "then & nows" in this thread. Time after time, their stuff just makes me go "Wow!" :ohyeah

I'd also like to put in a plug for Brian H. Hu's excellent "Urban Diachrony" blog, which I check every day. Lots of great time-comparative images there! :tup:

-Scott

ethereal_reality Jan 29, 2011 6:58 PM

Apablasa Street in 1921. This is the first time I've noticed the planters with palm(?) trees in the center of the street.


http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1...street1921.jpg
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ethereal_reality Jan 29, 2011 7:30 PM

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/4774/1916im21916.jpg
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Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 5143890)
Actually ethereal the Richfield Building would be on the block just west from there, out of frame (at the bottom of the pic). What this picture does show is the site of what is currently the Standard Hotel and the surface parking lot behind it, and the California Club.

Thanks for the explanation sopas_ej.





This photograph is of the site shown in the above photo (except from a different angle).
The year is 1930 and the brand new building is the California Club. The Bible Institute can be seen in both photos.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8...niaclubbld.jpg
usc digital archive





below: I also found this photo of the California Club in 1928.
This is the previous location at the northwest corner at Fifth & Hill Street.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/809...niaclubbld.jpg
usc digital archive







below: Before the Fifth & Hill location (above), the California Club was located on the top two floors of the Wilcox Building
at the southeast corner of Spring and Second Street. The Wilcox Building was the first building in Los Angeles to have
TWO elevators-one for the public and one for the members of the California Club.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9...1905spring.jpg
usc digital archive




________________

The original location of the California Club was in the second floor rooms of the Tally-Ho Stables at the northwest corner of First and Fort (now Broadway) Streets.

I thought I had a photo of the Tally-Ho Stables....but I can't find it. :( ......still looking.




I FOUND IT!!

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/7438/aaatallyho.jpg
usc digital archive

The Chamber of Commerce and the Board of Trade also met in rooms above the stables.
This view is looking northwest from the Nadeau Hotel.

Those Who Squirm! Jan 29, 2011 9:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malumot (Post 5143846)
Squirmy - You may want to judge people on other factors besides looks. Personally, I gave that up around age 15.

Well, if I had formed a judgment about her looks and then condemned her actions because of them, you'd have a stronger point. I read all about her in Estrada's book, and only then came across the portrait.

With the exception of the Olvera merchants, she was very much opposed to any kind of commercial use of any of the Plaza property, which is why all the buildings in the area--that is, all the ones that weren't knocked down for parking lots--decayed over the years. Now that may just be opinion of mine, but I don't think it's a completely unfounded one. The effective decision was to banish the kind of activity that makes a neighborhood live, like shops and cheap restaurants. The whole area might have become something like the French Quarter in New Orleans; instead, it became the biggest ghost town south of Bodie. Just the Placita church and the Olvera Street merchants--often at cross purposes with the original owners of the buildings on that block of Main--was not enough to ensure the ongoing viability of the area as a living community.

To the best of my memory, for a very long time none of the buildings were really used for anything, not even Park offices. They were padlocked by the State in 1953, and that was that for a very long time.

What was done to the Plaza neighborhood is in many ways the same as what happened a few blocks south. By replacing so many historic buildings not only with parking lots, but also "plazas" and "malls" that seem more than a little sterile like something out of a Di Chirico painting--except between 12 and 2 on weekdays, when the office workers come downstairs to have their brown bag lunches --much of Downtown was really given a suburban feel. There's lots of open space, lots of (expensive) surface parking, lots of green. But there's little in the way of coffeeshops, bookstores, pubs and restaurants. To find those, you have to go to the old financial district which was saved by the developers' and city fathers' preoccupation with "cleaning up" Bunker Hill, the Plaza, and the Civic Center.

ethereal_reality Jan 29, 2011 10:44 PM

The Theme Hosiery Building then and now.


http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/5...sierybuild.jpg
usc

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/910...ouarethere.jpg
you_are_here

http://www.you-are-here.com/building/hosiery.html

ethereal_reality Jan 29, 2011 11:17 PM

I love the advertisements in this photograph.....especially the giant hand reaching for the Lily Cream.

Looking north along Main Street from the roof of the Pacific Electric Building, ca. Jan 1, 1905

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1...ongmainfro.jpg
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malumot Jan 29, 2011 11:58 PM

I love both as well......



http://thebayarea.thistv.com/view/se...ghway%20Patrol


Quote:

Originally Posted by Los Angeles Past (Post 5144081)
:previous: Love these city views. Love the cars even more! :tup:

-Scott


GaylordWilshire Jan 30, 2011 1:08 PM

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TU...0/stocking.jpg
Bettmann/Corbis http://lh4.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TU...0/stocking.jpg

Los Angeles, August 6, 1949: "Marie Wilson is hoisted thigh-ward in a bosins chair to compare gams with a 35-foot model of one of the famous Wilson legs. The two-ton plaster statuary, designed to advertise hosiery, was unveiled by Marie amid the fanfare of a Hollywood-type premiere."


ethereal-- your shot of the Theme Hosiery building reminds me of the leg above--I know I've seen a shot of the building on which this leg was perched, maybe even on the forum, but cannot find it now. I believe the building was in West L.A.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5144663)
The Theme Hosiery Building then....


http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/5...sierybuild.jpg
usc


Another shot of the Theme Hosiery Building:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00084/00084210.jpg
LAPL http://jpg1.lapl.org/00084/00084210.jpg

GaylordWilshire Jan 30, 2011 3:25 PM

Before Rockingham, Before the Fall
 
While searching for the building on which sat the giant leg (so far unsucessfully), I found a few interesting items. (Not sure why a search for "leg" turned this one up, which appeared among many weird photos of diseased legs....)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TU...576/oj1970.jpg
USC Digital Library http://lh.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TUW...576/oj1970.jpg

USC caption: "GRACIOUS LIVING--O.J. Simpson, his wife, Marguerite and daughter Arnelle, enjoy the luxury of their new $100,000-plus home in the Sky Crest section of Bel-Air. The former USC star, recently named the outstanding college football player of the 60s, will start second pro season with he Buffalo Bills July 17. Los Angeles Times, July 3, 1970"

GaylordWilshire Jan 30, 2011 3:41 PM

Another scene of "Late Noir" L.A.
 
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TU.../s576/mels.jpg
UCLA Library http://dlproj.library.ucla.edu/deriv...0327862a_j.jpg

UCLA caption: "VANTAGE POINT--Van across street from Mel's Sporting Goods in Inglewood shows view Patty Hearst would have had during alleged shoplifting and shooting incident there on May 16, 1974. Los Angeles Times, July 13, 1976"

Mel's was at 11425 Crenshaw. It's now a parking lot. Here's an interesting piece describing the day Patty visited and the store's ultimate fate: http://www.rickross.com/reference/sy...bionese43.html

sopas ej Jan 30, 2011 4:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5144663)

Ah, very interesting. I've driven by the Ribét Academy on the 2 Fwy (Glendale Freeway), a freeway I rarely ever use, and one that seems like it never gets fully packed, not that that's a bad thing. So is the school building, I wonder, the same factory building, extremely remodeled, or is the school building a completely different building? I'm going to assume it's the same; the proportions look right.

Seeing this post made me look up the Ribét Academy online. The Academy itself was founded in 1982, and the school has been at that current location since 1992. Before that, from 1960 until its closing in 1991 because of declining enrollment, it was an all-boys Catholic high school called Pater Noster. And then of course, prior to that, it was the Theme Hosiery factory; kind of funny to me that a women's stocking factory would become an all-boys school.

This article actually answers my question of the building being the same building; it is indeed the same. From lageneology.com:
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4...olarticle2.jpg


When looking at old maps of the Los Angeles area, it's interesting for me to learn that sites I always assumed were there from the start, turn out to have been something else originally. Example, some years ago I saw an old map of Long Beach, and was surprised to learn that where the VA Hospital is now, was once the Long Beach Naval Hospital (interesting to me, because my mother worked at the VA Hospital there, and I'm an alumnus of Cal State Long Beach, which is right next door to the VA Hospital). And, according to the 1943 Renié Atlas I have, what is now the campus of Mt. San Antonio College in the city of Walnut used to be the site of a sanitarium called the Pacific Lodge State Hospital.

Hmm, looking at the Mt SAC website right now, it doesn't mention that it was once the site of a state hospital; on the history link, it says that the site was once part of the 48,000-acre Rancho La Puente, and that during World War II, the "facility" was converted into an Army hospital and then later into a Navy hospital. Hehe.

MikeD Jan 30, 2011 4:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malumot (Post 5144737)
I love both as well......

which is why I like Highway Patrol so much :D

http://thebayarea.thistv.com/view/se...ghway%20Patrol

Thanks for that link to Highway patrol! So far I've only watched the intro but I foresee a "wasted" afternoon. I haven't seen HP in over 45 years but can still remember Brod Crawford growling up and down the highway.

gsjansen Jan 30, 2011 4:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5145179)
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TU...0/stocking.jpg
Bettmann/Corbis http://lh4.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TU...0/stocking.jpg

Los Angeles, August 6, 1949: "Marie Wilson is hoisted thigh-ward in a bosins chair to compare gams with a 35-foot model of one of the famous Wilson legs. The two-ton plaster statuary, designed to advertise hosiery, was unveiled by Marie amid the fanfare of a Hollywood-type premiere."


sanderson hosiery company 1949
barrington and olympic west los angeles

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/...455e88db_b.jpg

and very noirish to boot!


Actress Marie Wilson participating in a stunt ad unveiling the 34 foot sanderson hosiery leg 1949

http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/880...b03e0c_landing
Source: Life http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/880...b03e0c_landing

happy lookin' she ain't.....sheeesh, what's a girl gotta do to get a part in this town?

GaylordWilshire Jan 30, 2011 6:08 PM

:previous:

Thanks, gs. There it is--Sanderson at Olympic and Barrington. Maybe I never have seen a picture of the actual building (the plinth itself can't have been big enough to contain the factory, or even offices, could it?). What do you suppose ever became of the leg? My guess is that it became a prop in one of my favorite movies of all time:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TU...50ft-woman.jpg

mdiederi Jan 30, 2011 10:36 PM

Some early fire fighting shots.

Fire at Broadway & 3rd Street, 1913.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...HS-7636vhr.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1296423229339

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...HS-7635vhr.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1296423229339

Broadway and 2nd Street, ca 1914
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...HS-8213vhr.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1296423229339

I don't know what buildings are on fire, and I also suspect that the last photo dated circa 1914 might be from the same fire as the first two photos in 1913, just shot looking south from Second Street and the first two are shot looking north from Third Street.

ethereal_reality Jan 31, 2011 12:24 AM

^^^Great fire fighting photos mdiederi!

The O.J. Simpson photo is surreal.

The giant LEG is amazing.

;)

ethereal_reality Jan 31, 2011 12:36 AM

Charles E. Miles......the last volunteer Chief of the Los Angeles Fire Department, ca. 1870s

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/9...emileslast.jpg
usc digital archive

I admire his uniform and fire helmet.
I notice it says 38 on his belt buckle. This must be the number of his Engine Company. ?




below: LAFD demonstration on Hill Street north of 2nd Street, ca. 1915

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/582...lstnorthof.jpg
usc digital archive

ethereal_reality Jan 31, 2011 1:07 AM

The Wright & Callender Building at Hill & 4th Street. Further up 4th Street you can see the Fremont Hotel.

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1...t1909wrigh.jpg
usc digital archive






below: Another view of the Fremont hotel at Olive and 4th Street, ca. 1920.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6...tholive192.jpg
usc digital archive

above: I know this image has probably been posted before...but the Fremont Hotel is such a great building I couldn't resist.
You would be hard pressed to come up with a more "noirish" looking building in all of L.A.







below: I don't believe this angle of the Fremont Hotel has been posted before.
The Fremont is far right and the multi-storied Wright & Callender Building is at the left.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9...ntoverview.jpg
ebay...if I remember correctly.




below: This is a close-up of the small building behind the Wright & Callender Building at 4th and Hill Street.
If you look closely at the above photograph you can spot this building.

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/4606/aaafree.jpg

It's easy to imagine a down on his luck "gum-shoe" renting a room in this building partially hidden by the much larger Wright-Callender Building.

gsjansen Jan 31, 2011 5:43 PM

whilst mindlessly parusin' the dick whittington collection at the usc archives, (hey a fella's gotta have a hobby, and since i don't golf.............), anyway, i happened upon this photograph which was confusing me, as i couldn't quite pin down from where it was taken, and what it actually was looking at....

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...4443-ISLA?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archives http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...4443-ISLA?v=hr

because of the angle of mount lee in the background, i knew it had to be downtown....but where.

of course searching for the most obvious element in the photograph, (hotel knickerbocker), i obviously kept ending up on ivar north of hollywood boulevard (i'm sure i don't have to to tell anyone here). searching for the st. paul hotel didn't fare much better.

then i stumbled upon this photograph;

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...4441-ISLA?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...4441-ISLA?v=hr

i realized that what appears to be the hotel victoria, (or victor....can't quite tell), at the right center of the image is visible at the left of the image that i was trying to locate.

the rex arms was located west of figueroa on wilshire, and at the lower right of the 2nd photograph, the roof of the Jonathon club at the nw corner of 6th and figueroa is visible.

so with that bit of information, i went back to the 1st photograph, and nearly gasped in my realization that both photos were most probably taken from the roof of the richfield building!

the two streets on the right side of the 1st photo is 5th and 4th streets, (they were narrowly spaced at this point, remember, 5th street didn't used to go past the state normal school to the west).

the convergence of streets in the 1st photo is 6th street, boylston street and beaudry avenue.

the street that the hotel knickerbocker is on is fremont avenue. the center of both photographs is where the harbor freeway runs today........yoiks!

gsjansen Jan 31, 2011 6:15 PM

another great image which appears to have been taken from the richfield building looking north east

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...4426-ISLA?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archives http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...4426-ISLA?v=hr

at the lower right, you can see the edison building under construction in front of the sherwood apartments. the fremont is visible to the right of the rose mansion. the zelda apartments is front and center. the ems is visible to the right of the casa alta, and the astoria at 3rd and olive is poking it's tower above the casa alta.

gsjansen Jan 31, 2011 9:39 PM

then (1938), and later (1954) image looking west from union station across alameda street towards the plaza

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5175/...c63a6da2_b.jpg

GaylordWilshire Jan 31, 2011 9:59 PM

South on Olive from 9th, 1956
 
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TU...4908_large.jpgLife

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TU...40256%20PM.jpgGoogle Street View

And to think that Ike defeated native Angeleno Adlai Stevenson not once, but twice.
(Stevenson was born just south of here on Monmouth Street in West Adams.) I'm surprised
to see the old five-globe streetlamps still standing this late. The low-rise building at right in both
shots is at Olympic and Olive and was designed by Parkinson. It was once the Federal Reserve
Bank and has now been converted into lofts.



http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics37/00038276.jpgMushet/LAPL http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics37/00038276.jpg
The Federal Reserve under comstruction, 1930


In the distance of the contemporary shot is the Occidental Center tower--now the AT&T Center--at 1150 S. Olive, discussed previously:
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2...tallifebld.jpg
USC Digital Library http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2...tallifebld.jpg

westcork Jan 31, 2011 10:09 PM

All,
Thank you for the wonderful posts. I found this thread a few months ago while looking for information on the Richfield building. I have finally made it through the whole thread. You guys are a wealth of information.

Since we are approaching tax season, I would like to remind you all to:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics26/00032529.jpg

Or if you like:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics27/00033428.jpg
LAPL.ORG

ethereal_reality Feb 1, 2011 12:33 AM

Welcome to the thread westcork! :)

I really enjoyed your recent posts gsjansen, especially post #2675.
It's so sad how the Harbor Freeway ripped through that very interesting area.



Can anyone tell me what the white building under construction is. The year is 1910.

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7868/aaapano1910.jpg
usc digtal archive




below: Looking west across Pershing Square, ca. 1910

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3...rshingsqua.jpg
usc digital archive

ethereal_reality Feb 1, 2011 1:19 AM

A couple of postcards I found on ebay.



Does anyone know where this Fraternal Brotherhood Building was located?

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/9...albuilt190.jpg
ebay




http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4870/la1113yamapc.jpg
ebay

gsjansen Feb 1, 2011 1:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5147193)
Welcome to the thread westcork! :)


Can anyone tell me what the white building under construction is. The year is 1910.

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7868/aaapano1910.jpg
usc digtal archive

Metropolitan building, nw corner of broadway and 5th

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-42057?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-42057?v=hr

by the way, your photo E_R is amazing on so many different levels! a great find! i don't think i've every seen a single photo that contains the hildreth mansion, zelda apartments, rose mansion, fremont hotel, olive school, and brunson mansion all within!

truly amazing

GaylordWilshire Feb 1, 2011 1:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5147193)
Can anyone tell me what the white building under construction is. The year is 1910.
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7868/aaapano1910.jpg
usc digtal archive

That's the Metropolitan Building at the NW corner of Broadway & Fifth (as opposed to the Metropolitan Theater--later Paramount--at the NE corner of Hill & 6th).

GaylordWilshire Feb 1, 2011 1:58 AM

Great minds, gs.... Speaking of buildings that at one time held the Los Angeles Public Library (as the Metropolitan Building did from 1914 to 1926), here are a couple of shots of the Homer Laughlin Building, 315-17 S. Broadway, which housed the library from 1906 to 1908 (and which is now better known as the home of Grand Central Market):

http://www.csulb.edu/~odinthor/Laughl.jpgCSULB Library http://www.csulb.edu/~odinthor/Laughl.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00078/00078926.jpgLAPL http://jpg1.lapl.org/00078/00078926.jpg
A shot of the library's outdoor reading room. Not sure what possessed the photographer to take
the picture of what is quintessentially a Southern California idea on what appears to be a rainy day....


I have Homer Laughlin on my mind today--I bought some dinner plates at Fishs Eddy here in NY last week, and only just today noticed that they were produced by the Homer Laughlin China Company. (Fiesta Ware is among its product lines.) I didn't know it was still in existence, and I mistakenly thought that it was always a Los Angeles company. Turns out that it never was an L.A. company--Homer sold his interest in the Ohio business in 1897 and only then moved to L.A. and began investing in real estate.

sopas ej Feb 1, 2011 2:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5147256)
That's the Metropolitan Building at the NW corner of Broadway & Fifth (as opposed to the Metropolitan Theater--later Paramount--at the NE corner of Hill & 6th).

The Metropolitan Building is being converted into residential lofts (or has been already). They really did a good job of restoring the upper floors on the outside, it's all cleaned up and beautiful. The ground floor, however, is still occupied by a Fallas Paredes and doesn't really match the grandeur of the rest of the building.

ethereal_reality Feb 1, 2011 2:42 AM

Thanks for the info gsjansen, GaylordWilshire and sopas_ej.

Several pages back we discussed the Metropolitan Building. I didn't realize it was the same building.

Again...thx

ethereal_reality Feb 1, 2011 2:48 AM

Here's that earlier post concerning the Metropolitan Building.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5116528)
The Metropolitan Building at the northwest corner of 5th & Broadway in 1938.

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/2...litanbldgn.jpg
usc digital archive

Can any one tell me what's going on with the sign at the top of this building?
The top part looks like a silhouette from Dante's Inferno.


Beaudry Feb 1, 2011 7:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5147253)
A couple of postcards I found on ebay.



Does anyone know where this Fraternal Brotherhood Building was located?

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/9...albuilt190.jpg
ebay

Ain't she something? This one has always fascinated me in no small reason because it was replaced by LA's ugliest building. Or so the story goes. That is:

1904, and the Fraternal Brotherhood gets Theodore Eisen (of '88 Courthouse fame, and that Boyle Heights orphan asylum, and who of course sired Percy Eisen) to design this:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5138/...655ca326_o.jpgproquest

at 845 S Fig, the NW corner of Fig and Lincoln (Lincoln now "W Eighth Place").

I know the FB building lasted through the early 50s but but I haven't poked around every photo to see if it stood past then. Maybe it was a parking lot for some time before the late 60s -- what we do know though is that in 1969, voila:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5174/...fd9ab23d_o.jpggoogle maps

Max Linder (who later in the early 70s tears down the Gates Hotel at 6th and Fig and to put up "Linder Plaza") builds this Bank of California/computer service center (Robert Clements & Associates, archs). Now, don't get me wrong, I happen to like 60s Corporate Modern. But according to this article http://blogdowntown.com/2007/05/2629...-ugliest-crown the overgrown, pockmarked, long-abandoned structure is considered DT's ugliest.

That said, some more of the Brotherhood, in rememberance:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5260/...8a691dde_o.jpghttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...chs-m2079.html

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5294/...bb5d8bdb_o.jpghttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...chs-m2080.html

gsjansen Feb 1, 2011 1:21 PM

oh those boys in the news room over at the examiner. ya gotta love a daily with a sense of humor. :jester:

this is the caption to the 1946 photo below;

"Mystery solved! Well folks, the secret is out. That big building which was dedicated back in 1927 down in the Civic Center is - the City Hall! To make it official, they finally got around to putting a name on it"

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...T-BUI-623?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...T-BUI-623?v=hr

psssst..hey buddy, city is spelled with a "Y";)

GaylordWilshire Feb 1, 2011 1:24 PM

Love this night shot:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TU...zanuo1_500.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TU...zanuo1_500.jpg

gsjansen Feb 1, 2011 1:50 PM

a cool 1926 image looking east across the city hall construction site. temple block is in it' last waning days. by following a straight edge line from temple block you can really see in this photo how city how city hall was built on top of the old spring street angle.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-35192?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-35192?v=hr

a few months later

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-35193?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archives http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-35193?v=hr

gsjansen Feb 1, 2011 3:53 PM

wooo wooo! a really great photograph of train traffic in the union station depot yard from 1939

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5300/...de3b1d4a_b.jpg
Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-31173?v=hr

GaylordWilshire Feb 1, 2011 6:57 PM

Pure '40s:
 
The 300 phone, the open-toe slingbacks, the Graphex camera: three prosties get busted, Los Angeles, 1948

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TU...seprostyLA.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TU...seprostyLA.jpg

MichaelRyerson Feb 1, 2011 8:41 PM

Somehow tastefully appropriate I'll say hi to the thread
 
under this stark photo of a couple of working girls just trying to get along. Perfect image of L.A. in the post-war years. I found this site/thread in a web search a couple of days ago looking for an image of the Bellevue Apartments. Just a typical idle hour surfing around following one lurid story to another. What a great thread. I'm reading the whole thing now and had to register just to say hello and thanks for all the wonderful pictures and commentary.

westcork Feb 1, 2011 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5148278)
under this stark photo of a couple of working girls just trying to get along. Perfect image of L.A. in the post-war years. I found this site/thread in a web search a couple of days ago looking for an image of the Bellevue Apartments. Just a typical idle hour surfing around following one lurid story to another. What a great thread. I'm reading the whole thing now and had to register just to say hello and thanks for all the wonderful pictures and commentary.

Sopas EJ has a great picture of "The Bellvue Arms Apartment/Hotel" on post 657 here. I used to live across the street from this building in the 1990s. It has recently been renovated. It also appears in an episode of Reno 911 where an old lady was throwing plant pots from the roof at the officers.

There is another great post by ethereal reality on page 95 / post 1883 here

MichaelRyerson Feb 1, 2011 10:46 PM

Thank you, Westcork...
 
Yes, I'd seen the first reference. My initial search brought me directly to that image and replies. But I hadn't seen the second, and frankly more interesting, set of pictures. I'm up to page 14 of the thread. Probably go through page 95 in about a week. Thanks again.

ethereal_reality Feb 2, 2011 12:39 AM

Welcome to the thread MichaelRyerson! :)




below: I don't recall seeing this great image before. Hopefully it's new to this thread.

A view from 4th & Grand in 1913.

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/738...hgrand1913.jpg
usc digital archive





below: This was the companion photo...also from 4th & Grand, ca. 1913.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8705/repeat1913.jpg
usc digital archive



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I almost forgot...thank you Beaudry for the information about the Fraternal Brotherhood Building. Your post was great!

mhdantholz Feb 2, 2011 1:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4375402)
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6...igueroa195.jpg
unknown


6th & Figueroa in 1932.

Hotel Clinton...I'd love to know what has gone on there.

NOT 1932---check cars, 2nd from right; NO running boards (Only cars made after about 1939) and the grill mark this as 1940s.

ethereal_reality Feb 2, 2011 1:54 AM

Facing north on S. Hill Street....Vendome Hotel. (no date)



http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/4...orthonsout.jpg
usc digital archive

mhdantholz Feb 2, 2011 1:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 4395873)
1952, Four-level interchange. Where the Hollywood/Santa Ana Freeway meets the Pasadena/Harbor Freeway. This interchange is the first 4-level interchange ever built in the world. Note the route signing; US Route 99 is now Interstate 10; the Hollywood Freeway is still US Route 101. Of course US Route 66 doesn't exist, the Pasadena/Harbor Freeway now being California State Route 110/Interstate 110, respectively. California already had an extensive highway/freeway system which predated the Federal Interstate system; this was the reason why California was exempt from having exit numbers until fairly recently.
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8...rlevel1952.jpg
From the USC archive.

The Four-level, 1953
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/653/fourlevel1953.jpg
From the USC archive.

Aerial view of the four-level, 1970
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics17/00008249.jpg
From LAPL

The four-level under construction, late 1940s
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics48/00058615.jpg
From LAPL

Wilshire and Bonnie Brae, 1937. From the USC archive.
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/475...nniebrae19.jpg
By the 1920s, LA already had the most cars per capita than any other city on earth at the time. I'm sure it was scenes like this that led to the encouragement of the building of freeways. Reading through old LA traffic plan books from the 1950s at the LA Central Library, it's funny to know that back then, freeways were really seen as a salvation for many, as they would "forever free up traffic from surface streets and cut down travel times across the city."

I simply MUST have that car 2nd from right, license plate 2C 92 41. It is TOO COOL for this planet. And scope out the license plate mounts.


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