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odinthor Mar 30, 2019 6:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8519411)
[...]

Oscar Wilde did get to California on a tour--he made it to San Francisco--but I'm pretty sure the he never made it to LA, least not in the flesh. However...the Oscar Wilde Collection at the Clark Library is the largest in the world.

[...]

After San Francisco, Oscar made it as far south in California as . . . San Jose in early April, 1882, but then returned east shortly thereafter.

Then what about this cryptic item in the Times of June 25, 1882???, one might ask:

https://i.postimg.cc/436cLK6y/Oscar6-25-82.jpg
Los Angeles Times via ProQuest via CSULB Library


Another item on July 1, 1882, explains:

https://i.postimg.cc/MpkXC6KQ/Oscar7-1-82.jpg
Los Angeles Times via ProQuest via CSULB Library, latter portion of article lopped off æsthetically


https://i.postimg.cc/05FNSkSB/Oscar-Sunflower.jpg
pinterest

Beaudry Mar 30, 2019 6:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8524156)
Wonderful images, e_r--thanks!

The structure up on Fort Hill looks to me to be the early state of the building when it was Jake Phillippi's place The Gardens, which was, I believe, a beer garden. According to my notes, he established this place in or about 1883, the location being referred to in The Illustrated History of Los Angeles County as on the corner of Buena Vista and Rock Sts., "but on account of ill health sold the place to Mrs. Banning" (Mr. Banning had been his employer once upon a time when Phillippi was a teamster, about 1863?; but I don't have a date as to when he "sold the place"). Phillippi died November 14, 1892.

From the Herald it seems it was called the Buena Vista—July 14 1883:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7906/...3cd011e7_o.png

And it seems he sold it not to Banning, but to Carl Seidel, for here we are in May 1884:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7893/...986d88eb_o.png

Mary Hollister Banning purchased it from Seidel in 1887, lived there with daughters Misses Mary and Lucy. The 1900 census shows just Mary, 52, with Anna Pendergrast, her 26-yo servant from Ireland, and Soledad Fuentes, an 11-yo servant from Mexico. In 1910 she's still there, with her daughter Lucy Greenleaf and son-in-law Mace and three servants, two male, one female (1910 is also the year Lucy dumps Mace for the son of a prominent judge). Mary is last listed at the house in 1914, and it becomes apartments; in the 1920 census MHB is living in Pomona by her lonesome (her filling out the census being the last thing she ever did, apparently—she died in 1919).

odinthor Mar 30, 2019 4:05 PM

:previous:

Thanks, Beaudry! :tup: This place has always interested me.

CityBoyDoug Mar 31, 2019 3:45 AM

This is LA but I don't know where. Anyone know or can take a guess?

https://66.media.tumblr.com/9098bda0...px5vo1_400.gif


Its from the film "Gun Crazy",,,,,

ethereal_reality Mar 31, 2019 5:15 AM

Remember the Epworth League? (METHODIST ASSOCIATION)

The Question. 1915 decorated car

The Answer. Lorendoc / The Epworth League

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/wnhplv.jpg

I dug a little deeper, and arrived at a Social Justice website that has some fascinating photographs chronicling the birth of Goodwill.

Many of locations [of the PHOTOGRAPHS] are a bit vague, but a majority of them are in the vicinity of the Plaza and the nearby Methodist Mexican(?) Church.


I'll start with this mystery location.

"Three men stand next to a Goodwill Industries of Southern California truck, c. 1921"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/L06gdp.jpg
museumofsocialjustice


A good clue, obviously, is the 'El Camino Bell'

as well as... the haunted-looking house atop the hill.

THIS ONE.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/6qoM05.jpg
DETAIL

I should probably know.....but I don't.


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Beaudry Mar 31, 2019 5:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8524892)
This is LA but I don't know where. Anyone know or can take a guess?

https://66.media.tumblr.com/9098bda0...px5vo1_400.gif


Its from the film "Gun Crazy",,,,,

That's 123 S Fig. It became LAPD traffic division HQ in 1942. I wrote a bit about 123 here.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7903/...0607c4e0_b.jpggetty

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7850/...3b4130f0_o.png

Gun Crazy was the first noir I ever saw. I was, what, seventeen maybe. I think it warped me in all the ways you'd expect it to. Explains a lot.

ethereal_reality Mar 31, 2019 5:33 AM

OK, one more for tonight.


Mystery Adobe


Can anyone figure out...who lived in, [or] what business was located in the adobe building? (I don't know where to put my commas)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/O3dm4R.jpg
museumofsocialjustice

It's obviously in the process of being torn down. ( there is some writing on it, but I can't read it)



The adobe was eventually replaced by this...

"1917 Chapel Methodist Mexican"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/BmTxrq.jpg
museumofsocialjustice

"Two wooden portable buildings built in 1917 contained the Plaza Mexican Methodist Church and the Plaza Goodwill Store,
which offered medical, dental, employment, and general welfare services."


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Beaudry Mar 31, 2019 5:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8524932)
as well as... the haunted-looking house atop the hill.

THIS ONE.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/6qoM05.jpg
DETAIL

the Munsters?


.

...we were straight-up just talkin' about this one! That's the Buena Vista AKA Mary Banning's pad.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7888/...9497ce88_o.pngdwp

It's looming down on J M Gallegos's place at 324 Sunset. In the map below, 324 is at bottom right. The Banning place is at 535 Broadway, upper left, above the "A" in Broadway.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7801/...637f2cee_o.pngbaist
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/L06gdp.jpg

Lorendoc Mar 31, 2019 6:23 AM

Never Give a Sucker an Even Break
 
Last weekend I saw W.C. Fields' last starring movie: Never Give a Sucker an Even Break (1941 - original story credited to our own Otis Criblecoblis). Towards the end of the movie, there is a 5 minute chase scene which has excellent exterior shots of the warehouse district downtown, Atwater Village, and the Cahuenga Pass. At least 3 Noirish LA posters have commented on this chase: 3940dxer and GaylordWilshire back on page 1417, and Scott Charles elsewhere.

Here's a link to a brief 2 minute, 40 second clip from the first portion of the chase, well worth watching:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1VT...xYA0_LNIZi2Vtb

The most interesting to me are the downtown shots. And it is good I googled before putting effort into identifying each of them: last year, John Bengtson made a terrific and detailed blog post on these locations: In the comments section of Bengtson's blog, Scott Charles contributed a missing chase location ID.

The downtown venues were shot in the area bounded by E 6th, Alameda, E 7th, and the river:

https://i.imgur.com/tqN6LX0.jpg
Google Maps

Bengtson has some great "then and nows" - well worth seeing. Here's a "then" that he didn't include.

It fits between his location 16) and 17). Fields' car careens east down Produce Street past the Certain-Teed Products company warehouse and makes a quick jog south towards the California Warehouse building, then left to continue on the next east-west street which is Wholesale St. Here is the Sanborn map:

https://i.imgur.com/qrFi5VV.jpg
lapl.org

At 1:00 there is a scene of well-dressed citizens exiting south through an arcade from E 6th to Produce Street. They are immediately set upon by Fields' car and are forced to jump out of their shoes to get out of the way in time.

This is followed by a view of 2 confused motorcycle cops driving in circles outside an adjacent building with a sign "Beekeepers Supplies - Honey Beeswax."

https://i.imgur.com/6ravfgQ.jpg
Universal Pictures

I wondered if this were a real business or just something made up for the movie. I looked in the CDs and found that bee products actually were a thing, although the only business listed was several blocks away from where Bengtson placed these shots. But looking more closely at the Sanborn above, there is an "apiary supplies" building at 1300 Produce. Searching for that address yielded several entries for the Diamond Match Company, which does not appear to be insect-related at first sight.

This company, according to Wikipedia, continues to be the leading producer of matches (12B/yr) in the USA, and was controlled in the 1920s by Ivar Kreuger, the Swedish Match King - "a genius and swindler," the "Leonardo of larcenists," according to John Kenneth Galbraith. Kreuger operated Diamond Match as his personal Ponzi scheme until his (suspicious) death in 1932.

So what about these bees? Google provided the answer in an AP wire story from August 3, 2004:
CHICO, Calif. (AP) -- One of the original Diamond Match factory buildings in Chico has gone up in flames, apparently a victim of arson.
Firefighters found that doors and support timbers had been piled up near a staircase to feed the blaze that engulfed the building early Monday.
The 13,000-square-foot building constructed in 1905 was used to raise bees and to make honeycomb frames from wood left over from making match sticks. The bees helped pollinate the area's crops, and the company often purchased the resulting honey.
Operations at the plant ended in 1989, and the current owner of the 137-acre factory property had hoped to restore it and other original buildings to anchor a development to include single-family homes, townhouses, apartments, shops and restaurants.

CityBoyDoug Mar 31, 2019 8:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 8524940)
That's 123 S Fig. It became LAPD traffic division HQ in 1942. I wrote a bit about 123 .


Hey Beaudry.....thank you so much....you are in the know for sure.

Now I can relax. I will check out your link.

HossC Mar 31, 2019 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8524941)

Mystery Adobe

Can anyone figure out...who lived in, [or] what business was located in the adobe building? (I don't know where to put my commas)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/O3dm4R.jpg
museumofsocialjustice

It's obviously in the process of being torn down. ( there is some writing on it, but I can't read it)

Here's your mystery adobe. Murray & Ready was an employment agency at 127-129 S Los Angeles Street, although I can only find them there in the 1906 CD.

"View of the residence of Don Agustine (Augustine) Olvera on the corner of Los Angeles Street and Marchesault Street, ca.1880"

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Residence1.jpg
USC Digital Library

From the description:

Photograph of the residence of Don Agustine (Augustine) Olvera on the corner of Los Angeles and Marchesault streets, ca.1880. Built by Don Tiburcio Tapia in 1854(?--source Bill Mason lists Tapia as having died in 1847), the long, one-story house appears to be engaging in commercial interests: café tables are visible beneath its covered porch, at one of which several people are sitting. Signs adorn the outside of the house and read "Murray & Ready", "Other Offices", "Sohombres", "If your [...] call me early [...] for to morrow [...]". Both streets are unpaved. Telephone poles are visible to the front and side of the house, and man riding a bicycle can be seen at the extreme left with is back to the camera. The site would later become the location of the Mexican Methodist Church and Clinic.

ethereal_reality Apr 1, 2019 3:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 8524946)
...we were straight-up just talkin' about this one! That's the Buena Vista AKA Mary Banning's pad.

I had no idea. That's what you would call a coincidence. :)



re: 'Mystery Adobe'
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8524993)
Murray & Ready was an employment agency at 127-129 S Los Angeles Street.

"it was also the residence of Don Agustine (Augustine) Olvera on the corner of Los Angeles Street and Marchesault Street, ca.1880"

Built by Don Tiburcio Tapia in 1854(?).

Thanks Hoss. I appreciate it, buddy.





....................................................................................................................'Katherine Higgins holds baby Virginia Argilez, 1918."


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/OKZXEw.jpg
museumofsocialjustice

"Virginia's mother was sent to the Plaza Community Center for care, two weeks after giving birth to Virginia on the train from Mexico. Katherine and others brought them to the clinic for medical attention and promised the mother a job mending clothes in the Goodwill Industries. Virginia was the first child put in the Day Nursery and her mother "headed the list as the first employee at the Goodwill Industries.”

ethereal_reality Apr 1, 2019 4:20 AM

:previous:

Mystery building on Bloom St.


The following photographs show a building on Bloom St. that had some sort of connection to the early days of Goodwill Industries in Los Angeles.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/IgqERz.jpg
museumofsocialjustice.......................................................................................................................................................................................It resembles a mini-me alamo.

hrmmph. but no street address.







2nd photo.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/X65IRM.jpg
museumofsocialjustice

Supposedly, the woman standing second from the left is Katherine Higgins, the lady holding baby Virginia in my prev. post


All from museumofsocialjustice (direct link to this story)


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Noir_Noir Apr 1, 2019 1:04 PM

:previous:


https://i.imgur.com/syQ4Re7.jpg
rescarta.lapl.org


The Spanish (a.k.a. Mexican) Mission was established in 1903.

https://i.imgur.com/cgdI8GP.jpg
cdnc.ucr.edu - Los Angeles Herald - 9 January 1904


https://i.imgur.com/nSsaFtR.jpg
cdnc.ucr.edu - Highland Park News-Herald - 23 May 1908


"In 1914 the mission moved to a rented hall closer to the Plaza at 110 Commercial Street and was renamed the First Mexican Methodist Episcopal Church. Evangelistic meetings were held in the Plaza and Bloom Street was converted to a free clinic and welfare center."

https://www.museumofsocialjustice.org/about.html

Godzilla Apr 1, 2019 2:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4559276)

Above: The first station that caught my eye on this map was the Arcade Depot,
also on Alameda. I was able to find several photographs of this impressive structure.






Below: The Arcade Depot in 1900.


http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9...arcade1900.jpg
usc archive











http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7...rcadedepot.jpg
unknown




http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3...cadedepot2.jpg
unknown




http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6...onalamedas.jpg
usc archive





Below: And last but not least my favorite find.

This photo was listed under photographs showing vacant lots.
To my surprise when I enlarged it, there was the Arcade Depot in all it's glory.


http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/4...sopacificd.jpg
usc archive






Symmetrical red dots are always a nice touch.



https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...babaac13b4.jpghttps://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...babaac13b4.jpg

Godzilla Apr 1, 2019 2:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7433492)
Here's a 1973 (six years later) photo of this area.

http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/SB-101-2.jpgBruce Torrence Collection

Debbi's and Sherry's are still there. Googie's was east a bit of Sherry's, but I believe it was called something else by 1973.

Is that a rock group on the billboard above? Also, notice the bus bench that's toppled onto Sunset Blvd. Also, there's Schwab's.




1954? according to source. Maybe earlier. :shrug:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/a...1&d=1401359049https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/a...1&d=1401359049https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qRrR4arsbv4/maxresdefault.jpghttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/qRrR4arsbv4/maxresdefault.jpg

riichkay Apr 1, 2019 6:47 PM

As a 45 year resident and proud Angeleno, I have to say this one really stings...from the front page of a Madison WI. newspaper....dated May 7, 1937....



http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psy7axbh7h.jpg

Earl Boebert Apr 1, 2019 6:49 PM

Godzilla said:

"1954? according to source. Maybe earlier. "

Based on that Ford making a right turn, it's not earlier than 1952.

Cheers,

Earl

AlvaroLegido Apr 1, 2019 7:14 PM

Never noticed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8525571)
....................................................................................................................'Katherine Higgins holds baby Virginia Argilez, 1918."


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/OKZXEw.jpg
museumofsocialjustice

"Virginia's mother was sent to the Plaza Community Center for care, two weeks after giving birth to Virginia on the train from Mexico. Katherine and others brought them to the clinic for medical attention and promised the mother a job mending clothes in the Goodwill Industries. Virginia was the first child put in the Day Nursery and her mother "headed the list as the first employee at the Goodwill Industries.”

I am quite sure that we've never discussed the 2 stories building behind Katherine Higgins. On most of the Plaza photographs it is the one which turns on the right with Marchessault/Sunset. Great photo : it's like being there 100 years before.

Bristolian Apr 1, 2019 7:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8525589)

Mystery building on Bloom St.


The following photographs show a building on Bloom St. that had some sort of connection to the early days of Goodwill Industries in Los Angeles.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/IgqERz.jpg
museumofsocialjustice[SIZE="1"]

From the first photo, it looks like the building could have some connection to the early days of Taco Bell.

https://i.imgur.com/PE3AJeu.jpg?1
https://www.brandeating.com/2017/04/...ent-tacos.html

Lorendoc Apr 1, 2019 7:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 8526208)
As a 45 year resident and proud Angeleno, I have to say this one really stings...from the front page of a Madison WI. newspaper....dated May 7, 1937....


This article, being read on April 1, almost had me until the word "ecosystem." The photo's remarkably prescient for 1937 :D

Martin Pal Apr 1, 2019 11:29 PM

:previous:

You mean we're being fooled? :shrug:

Or should I say "I'm" being fooled?

Oops.

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 8526208)
I have to say this one really stings...from the front page of a Madison WI. newspaper....dated May 7, 1937....
_____________________________________________________


Yikes! Lots of vitriol in that column! The author's name or byline isn't listed, but the writer was probably someone who was told they were the best looking person in their hometown, came to make it big in Hollywood and their dreams were thwarted.

Quote:

someone who was told they were the best looking person in their hometown and told they should go to Hollywood
I don't recall where I heard that before, but if anyone asks me why I originally came to California I'd say:

"You've heard the notion that the best looking person in their hometown's always encouraged to go to Hollywood and make it big. That's what I was told." (...pause...) "Imagine what the other people in my hometown look like."

:laugh:


Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 8526208)
As a 45 year resident and proud Angeleno...
_____________________________________________________


Congratulations! I am a 42 year resident...as of today! I arrived April 1, 1977!

(Many of my friends seem to find that amusing.)

FredH Apr 2, 2019 12:17 AM

Nancy's Stand and George's Garage - Little Tokyo
 
http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/q.../nancys2_1.png

I found this L.A. Times article a few weeks ago it was written five days after I started working in Little Tokyo in 1985.

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/q...okyo%201_1.png
http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/q...0Tokyo%202.png

Nancy was friendly and seemed to know almost everyone. She served good fast food, but if you were looking for vegetables, your choices were potatoes (french fried) or pinto beans.

Mas labored away in incredibly tight quarters. You could fit maybe two vehicles in the shop. The rest was crammed with tools and spare parts. Our company had a Volkswagen pick-up that seemed to spend a lot of time in his garage, so I got to know Mas a little. He was always in good spirits and never seemed flustered by the amount of work he had lined up behind the shop.

When I read the article, I was surprised to learn that both Nancy and Mas had been interned as children during World War Two. Neither one seemed to hold a grudge or was inclined to play the victim. I don't know where they ended up after they closed up in Little Tokyo. They were both good people.

Little Tokyo back in the day:

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/q...Capture3_2.png
Earl Witscher, Modernage Photo Service


Little Tokyo now:

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/q...Capture2_2.png
Google Maps


As you can see, the old Brunswig Drug warehouse was right across the street from Nancy and Mas. In 1986, it was stripped down to the steel frame and rebuilt as a beautiful office building, now called Brunswig Square.

Yeah, I liked the old Little Tokyo better.

Godzilla Apr 2, 2019 2:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 8526211)
Godzilla said:

"1954? according to source. Maybe earlier. "

Based on that Ford making a right turn, it's not earlier than 1952.

Cheers,

Earl


Didn't mean to suggest that "much" earlier. I was focusing on the purported fact that most (maybe all) of the semaphore signals were being replaced around that time. I could have sworn I read on NLA that '56 was the "final" curtain, but for every rule there seems to be an exception. :shrug:


Previous NLA post:



Quote:

1923 traffic signal comes down. Traffic officials Lloyd Rush, Arnold Kunody and Arthur Butz, watch workmen at Sunset and Main Streets. Photo dated: December 27, 1956.
https://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...DMX=0&DMY=0&DMhttps://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...X=512&DMY=0&DM
https://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...X=0&DMY=512&DMhttps://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...512&DMY=512&DM


https://tessa.lapl.org/cdm/singleite...hotos/id/12717

ethereal_reality Apr 2, 2019 4:48 AM

Was it a Dream?
 
On one of my routes from Culver City (where I worked) to West Hollywood, I remember that I would pass Chippendales strip club. (this would have been around 1984 or 85).
It might have been their original location.


If I remember correctly, the street was Overland Ave. (I worked in a building just inside the Overland Gate at MGM) -so it makes sense.

This rather nondescript building...about a block north of Venice Blvd.... comes closest to what I remember as Chippendales.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/wb2ohI.jpg
GSV

The word, CHIPPENDALE'S...was painted in LARGE black lettering, horizontally across the top third of the bldg.

Before I found out it was a strip bar I thought it was a furniture store. (you know, Chippendale's..like the famous chairs) lol



Did I dream this location? :shrug: Was Chippendales really located in Culver City? (not exactly a hot spot back in the 1980s)


Here's an aerial to give you an idea of how the building is situated on the west side of street.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/x4Aogw.jpg

So far, I haven't found any proof that Chippendales was located in Culver City. (this would have been before they became world famous)



I eventually switched to Robertson Blvd. as my escape route. ;)


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HossC Apr 2, 2019 6:26 AM

:previous:

A 1982 episode of CHiPs, "Trained for Trouble", visited Chippendales - the storyline involved a stripper who looked like Ponch. According to this Wiki page about the episode, "...the club finally closed its doors on December 15, 1988, located at 3739 Overland Avenue...". That's only 100 yards north of the building you posted, e_r. It's now an adult day care.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ppendales1.jpg
GSV

Here's a screengrab I made of the sign.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ppendales2.jpg
chips-tv.com

FredH Apr 2, 2019 6:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8525571)
I had no idea. That's what you would call a coincidence. :)



re: 'Mystery Adobe'

Thanks Hoss. I appreciate it, buddy.





....................................................................................................................'Katherine Higgins holds baby Virginia Argilez, 1918."


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/OKZXEw.jpg
museumofsocialjustice

"Virginia's mother was sent to the Plaza Community Center for care, two weeks after giving birth to Virginia on the train from Mexico. Katherine and others brought them to the clinic for medical attention and promised the mother a job mending clothes in the Goodwill Industries. Virginia was the first child put in the Day Nursery and her mother "headed the list as the first employee at the Goodwill Industries.”


Does anyone know the history of the Brunswig buildings in Los Angeles?

In the photo above (behind Katherine), we have the original Bruswig warehouse next to the Plaza Church.




http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/q...y/download.jpg
LAPL



In this 1979 photo, the warehouse has been converted into a Juvenile Courts Building.

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/q...rts%20bldg.png
LAPL

This area is now a vacant lot.

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/q...nckley/lot.png
Google Maps

Just down the street is the old Brunswig office building/lab, which has been recently renovated

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/q...swig%20lab.png
LAPl

Lastly, we have the remodeled Brunswig warehouse/factory building in Little Tokyo that I noted in a recent post.

Does anyone have the dates (and or details) on all this? I have no idea why they went over to Little Tokyo to build their "new" warehouse.

CityBoyDoug Apr 2, 2019 8:55 AM

Gun Crazy .....dedicated to all the Noirishers

https://media.giphy.com/media/13k9ocbzdq5n2g/giphy.gif

GaylordWilshire Apr 2, 2019 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8525589)
:previous:

Mystery building on Bloom St.


The following photographs show a building on Bloom St. that had some sort of connection to the early days of Goodwill Industries in Los Angeles.

https://i.postimg.cc/rFvz1VRw/bloomsmaller.jpg



Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 8526309)
From the first photo, it looks like the building could have some connection to the early days of Taco Bell.

https://i.postimg.cc/k5CQyFRG/tacosmaller.jpg
https://www.brandeating.com/2017/04/...ent-tacos.html


And then there's this house

https://i.postimg.cc/ZYxLFYFT/2711-WBnow.jpg

Once at 2711 Wilshire Boulevard, now at 222 S Gramercy

Read all about it here: https://wilshireboulevardhouses.blog...e-see-our.html

Hollywood Graham Apr 2, 2019 4:10 PM

123 Fi.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8524981)
Hey Beaudry.....thank you so much....you are in the know for sure.

Now I can relax. I will check out your link.

Later photo, early in WW2 https://www.flickr.com/photos/hollyw...am/8262221187/

ethereal_reality Apr 2, 2019 5:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8526958)
The club closed its doors on December 15, 1988, located at 3739 Overland Avenue..."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/35fHuh.jpg
chips-tv.com

Thanks Hoss! I've been wondering about the Culver City location for quite sometime. I was beginning to think I imagined it!

I don't remember the sign at all.


obligatory
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/4861/mlLLLP.gif
SNL


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ethereal_reality Apr 2, 2019 6:08 PM

I thought I was seeing things.
 
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While I was driving around in the google-mobile, looking for the old Chippendales building, I happened upon this apartment building at 3374 Overland Ave.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/lu8TYN.jpg
GSV

Do you notice anything odd about it?









Let's take a closer look, shall we.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/kaIvr5.jpg

Do you see what I'm talking about now?


:lmao:












And right around the corner from the Crapi you'll find.......

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/zozCwb.jpg
GSV


The CheeZee Apartments

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/Mer2qO.jpg

at10617 Woodbine St.




I would wager a guess that both apartment buildings are owned by the same person. (with tongue firmly planted in cheek)


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Z9SSaU.jpg
google_earth





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Martin Pal Apr 2, 2019 6:39 PM

:previous:

There seems to be a lot of those "named" apartments in L.A. with the word "Capri." There are several named the Villa Capri. Maybe they were having some amusement with that idea/name? I can't believe it was just misspelled, but anything's possible! Heh!

Also, remember this restaurant, previously discussed, at 6735 Yucca Street?
https://i2.wp.com/martinturnbull.com...Capri-copy.jpg

That location is now the Hollywood Condos:
https://cdn2.condo.com/building/medi...3378b81_dt.jpgTop L.A. Condos

ethereal_reality Apr 2, 2019 6:43 PM

Yes Martin. It's a play on the word 'Capri'. That's what makes it funny. lol

Martin Pal Apr 2, 2019 7:02 PM

:previous:

I'm getting so used to stupidity permeating the culture, that even though it made me laugh, I was wondering if someone was just being dumb!

Martin Pal Apr 2, 2019 7:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8526918)
On one of my routes from Culver City (where I worked) to West Hollywood, I remember that I would pass Chippendales strip club. (this would have been around 1984 or 85).
It might have been their original location.

If I remember correctly, the street was Overland Ave. (I worked in a building just inside the Overland Gate at MGM) -so it makes sense.


Before I found out it was a strip bar I thought it was a furniture store. (you know, Chippendale's..like the famous chairs) lol

Did I dream this location? :shrug: Was Chippendales really located in Culver City? (not exactly a hot spot back in the 1980s)

So far, I haven't found any proof that Chippendales was located in Culver City. (this would have been before they became world famous)

I eventually switched to Robertson Blvd. as my escape route. ;)


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Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8526958)
:previous:

A 1982 episode of CHiPs, "Trained for Trouble", visited Chippendales - the storyline involved a stripper who looked like Ponch. According to this Wiki page about the episode, "...the club finally closed its doors on December 15, 1988, located at 3739 Overland Avenue...". That's only 100 yards north of the building you posted, e_r. It's now an adult day care.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ppendales1.jpg
GSV

Here's a screengrab I made of the sign.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ppendales2.jpg
chips-tv.com
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I worked in Culver City from about 1977-1983 and I recall going by the Chippendales place, but like E_R, I don't recall this sign! I don't think I was by there at night, though.

If memory serves, that area is the "Palms" section of Los Angeles.
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...StreetSign.jpgTierra Properties

Martin Pal Apr 2, 2019 7:48 PM

:previous:

Yes...

L.A. Times Mapping L.A. boundaries of "Palms."

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...California.pngWikimedia

Palms (originally "The Palms") is a highly diverse, densely populated community in the Westside region of Los Angeles, California, founded in 1886 and the oldest neighborhood annexed to the city, in 1915. The 1886 tract was marketed as an agricultural and vacation community. Today it is a primarily residential area, with a large number of apartment buildings, ribbons of commercial zoning and a single-family residential area in its northwest corner.

Under Attractions:

Palms has a large number of Indian and Pakistani restaurants and businesses. In addition, it is also one of the centers of the Brazilian community in Los Angeles, with a number of Brazilian-oriented restaurants and shops, and one nightclub. In 1979, the original Chippendales erotic male dancing club at 3739 Overland Avenue at McCune Avenue was started by Bengali immigrant Steve Banerjee when he turned his nightclub-disco, Destiny II, into a venue for male strippers.

http://www.tierraproperties.com/west...ty_profile.htm

HossC, notes in his above post it closed Dec. 15, 1988, which appears to be the result of a lot of turmoil, according to the wiki page: For Chippendales, the early 1980's were filled with major lawsuits pertaining to personal injury, alleged sexual bias against male guests, charges of racial discrimination and later in 1988 bankruptcy due to Banerjee's refusal to pay a $300,000+ (approx) printing invoice to Anderson Lithograph for a layout error created by a Culver City advertising firm, Haiku Advertising whereby the 1987 Chippendales calendar had 31 days in each month.

This L.A. Times article of September, 1988, describes it as "battling to keep it's doors open, after a judge upheld the closing of Chippendales' West Los Angeles club."

Apparently the club was battling fire regulations with the number of patrons etc. The article said they were planning to move to where the El Rey theatre was located on Wilshire Blvd.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...181-story.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8526918)
Before I found out it was a strip bar I thought it was a furniture store. (you know, Chippendale's..like the famous chairs) lol

Interestingly, E_R, from the wiki page:

The club name was suggested by Nahin, Banerjee's partner, as the Club had Chippendale style furniture.

In 2016, an Indian producer, Salman Khan, was announced to produce a biopic on Somen Banerjee, and the male striptease club Chippendales.

Except for the CHiP's episode, it's interesting there seem to be no photos taken of this club on Overland Avenue.

Mstimc Apr 3, 2019 1:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 8526765)
Didn't mean to suggest that "much" earlier. I was focusing on the purported fact that most (maybe all) of the semaphore signals were being replaced around that time. I could have sworn I read on NLA that '56 was the "final" curtain, but for every rule there seems to be an exception. :shrug:


Previous NLA post:



https://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...DMX=0&DMY=0&DMhttps://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...X=512&DMY=0&DM
https://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...X=0&DMY=512&DMhttps://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...512&DMY=512&DM


https://tessa.lapl.org/cdm/singleite...hotos/id/12717

Speaking as a retired Public Works guy, there's nothing as annoying for field employees as being "helped" by the bosses. :D

Scott Charles Apr 3, 2019 7:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8524960)
Last weekend I saw W.C. Fields' last starring movie: Never Give a Sucker an Even Break (1941 - original story credited to our own Otis Criblecoblis). Towards the end of the movie, there is a 5 minute chase scene which has excellent exterior shots of the warehouse district downtown, Atwater Village, and the Cahuenga Pass. At least 3 Noirish LA posters have commented on this chase: 3940dxer and GaylordWilshire back on page 1417, and Scott Charles elsewhere.

Here's a link to a brief 2 minute, 40 second clip from the first portion of the chase, well worth watching:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1VT...xYA0_LNIZi2Vtb

The most interesting to me are the downtown shots. And it is good I googled before putting effort into identifying each of them: last year, John Bengtson made a terrific and detailed blog post on these locations: In the comments section of Bengtson's blog, Scott Charles contributed a missing chase location ID.

The downtown venues were shot in the area bounded by E 6th, Alameda, E 7th, and the river:

https://i.imgur.com/tqN6LX0.jpg
Google Maps

Bengtson has some great "then and nows" - well worth seeing. Here's a "then" that he didn't include.

It fits between his location 16) and 17). Fields' car careens east down Produce Street past the Certain-Teed Products company warehouse and makes a quick jog south towards the California Warehouse building, then left to continue on the next east-west street which is Wholesale St. Here is the Sanborn map:

https://i.imgur.com/qrFi5VV.jpg
lapl.org

At 1:00 there is a scene of well-dressed citizens exiting south through an arcade from E 6th to Produce Street. They are immediately set upon by Fields' car and are forced to jump out of their shoes to get out of the way in time.

This is followed by a view of 2 confused motorcycle cops driving in circles outside an adjacent building with a sign "Beekeepers Supplies - Honey Beeswax."

https://i.imgur.com/6ravfgQ.jpg
Universal Pictures

I wondered if this were a real business or just something made up for the movie. I looked in the CDs and found that bee products actually were a thing, although the only business listed was several blocks away from where Bengtson placed these shots. But looking more closely at the Sanborn above, there is an "apiary supplies" building at 1300 Produce. Searching for that address yielded several entries for the Diamond Match Company, which does not appear to be insect-related at first sight.

This company, according to Wikipedia, continues to be the leading producer of matches (12B/yr) in the USA, and was controlled in the 1920s by Ivar Kreuger, the Swedish Match King - "a genius and swindler," the "Leonardo of larcenists," according to John Kenneth Galbraith. Kreuger operated Diamond Match as his personal Ponzi scheme until his (suspicious) death in 1932.

So what about these bees? Google provided the answer in an AP wire story from August 3, 2004:
CHICO, Calif. (AP) -- One of the original Diamond Match factory buildings in Chico has gone up in flames, apparently a victim of arson.
Firefighters found that doors and support timbers had been piled up near a staircase to feed the blaze that engulfed the building early Monday.
The 13,000-square-foot building constructed in 1905 was used to raise bees and to make honeycomb frames from wood left over from making match sticks. The bees helped pollinate the area's crops, and the company often purchased the resulting honey.
Operations at the plant ended in 1989, and the current owner of the 137-acre factory property had hoped to restore it and other original buildings to anchor a development to include single-family homes, townhouses, apartments, shops and restaurants.

Good stuff, Lorendoc! And thanks for the mention.:)

Did you submit your new info at John Bengtson's website? I'm pretty sure he'd “bee” interested in it...

GaylordWilshire Apr 3, 2019 2:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8527641)
:previous:

Yes...

L.A. Times Mapping L.A. boundaries of "Palms."

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...California.pngWikimedia

Palms (originally "The Palms") is a highly diverse, densely populated community in the Westside region of Los Angeles, California, founded in 1886 and the oldest neighborhood annexed to the city, in 1915. The 1886 tract was marketed as an agricultural and vacation community. Today it is a primarily residential area, with a large number of apartment buildings, ribbons of commercial zoning and a single-family residential area in its northwest corner.


I was curious to compare the LAT's Palms boundaries to those of the 1915 annexation...

https://i.postimg.cc/fyc0Hpbq/palmsannexation-bmp.jpg
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CityBoyDoug Apr 3, 2019 7:37 PM

We've seen this gif before but its always good to see it again.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/xDxh8Byj1MzpS/giphy.gif
Peggy 'shoot'em up' Cummins

ethereal_reality Apr 3, 2019 9:15 PM

re: W.C. Fields - Matches - Bees


I agree with Scott_Charles, your post was great, Lorendoc! -very sleuthy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc
CHICO, Calif. -- One of the original Diamond Match factory buildings in Chico has gone up in flames, apparently a victim of arson.
Firefighters found that doors and support timbers had been piled up near a staircase to feed the blaze that engulfed the building early Monday.
The 13,000-square-foot building constructed in 1905 was used to raise bees and to make honeycomb frames from wood left over from making match sticks.

I had no idea beekeeping was a side product of match making. (file this under: "You learn something everyday."]


also...

"The Diamond Match factory was apparently a victim of arson.
Firefighters found that doors and support timbers had been piled up near a staircase."


I wouldn't think a FIRE at a MATCH FACTORY would need any additional help.
(I just noticed the fire was in 2004. ..so the match factory had been out of business for over twenty years when the fire occured.)







Here is the old Diamond Match factory in Chico, Ca.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/2g47bl.jpg
scu-chico_

postscript:

I thought Chico was in the Inland Valley. I didn't realize it was north of Sacramento!

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BDiH Apr 3, 2019 9:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8528852)
We've seen this gif before but its always good to see it again.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/xDxh8Byj1MzpS/giphy.gif
Peggy 'shoot'em up' Cummins

Was this filmed in Reseda? I know some of the street scenes were.

ethereal_reality Apr 3, 2019 9:35 PM

Yes, it was!

HERE is a short list of locations. (very short list...of two)

I thought we had covered them on NLA but I wasn't able to find the previous posts. (still looking)

sopas ej Apr 3, 2019 9:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8528992)
I thought Chico was in the Inland Valley. I didn't realize it was so far north.

You might be thinking of Chino, and its offshoot, Chino Hills.

Chico is home to the Sierra Nevada Brewing Company, and that "party school" Cal State Chico.

ethereal_reality Apr 3, 2019 9:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 8529033)
You might be thinking of Chino, and its offshoot, Chino Hills.

Thanks sopas. You made me feel better.

ethereal_reality Apr 3, 2019 10:01 PM

Here are a couple mystery locations from the UMC Digital Archive. (found while researching the EPWORTH LEAGUE)


#1
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/AuI1a1.jpg

The church looks, somewhat, familiar...but I don't recall a "Norwegian-Danish Home for Girls".





#2
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/sonXZF.jpg

Would this be the old Hollenbeck Home? (if so...I don't recall the gazebo)


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odinthor Apr 4, 2019 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8529055)
Here are a couple mystery locations from the UMC Digital Archive. (found while researching the EPWORTH LEAGUE)


#1
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/AuI1a1.jpg

The church looks, somewhat, familiar...but I don't recall a "Norwegian-Danish Home for Girls".

[...]

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e_r, it's a thing (or at least was in 1923):

https://i.postimg.cc/yYzJ6bLt/norwegiandanish.jpg

from the 1923 publication

https://i.postimg.cc/xdq8FDdJ/norwegiandanish1923.jpg

But where in L.A. was it???

In 1923, the Episcopalians were considering a home for girls:

https://i.postimg.cc/pyNKPVp6/homeforgirls1923.jpg
LA Times 1/25/23 via ProQuest via CSULB Library

Both L.A. and San Pedro have such an address (1422 W. 3rd St.) . . . and San Pedro comes to mind because there was long a strong Norwegian presence there. But . . . I dunno . . . :shrug:

Noir_Noir Apr 4, 2019 12:50 AM

:previous:


Or maybe? :shrug:



"The Western Norwegian Danish Conference was founded in 1888 when many Scandinavians migrated to the United States and settled on the Pacific Coast. There were nine churches from San Pedro in the south to Bellingham, Washington in the north. The Annual Conference met in different location each year. Members of the host congregations would provide housing and meals. The summer family camps for the California churches were held at Mt. Herman, near Santa Cruz.

The Los Angeles Church was at Olympic Boulevard and Bixel Avenue and had a church building, parsonage, and a Girls Home, which provided a home away from home for the many single women who had found employment in the Los Angeles area.

In 1939, the church joined the Southern California Conference and changed its name to Bethany. A decade later when there was no further need for services in the Scandinavian language, the property was sold and members joined First Church, Trinity or Wilshire."


documento.mx


https://i.imgur.com/E5I0Tat.jpg
cdnc.ucr.edu - Los Angeles Herald - 31 December 1921


The original address at 1025 W. 10th Street changed to -

https://i.imgur.com/0uZMT53.jpg
rescarta.lapl.org

ethereal_reality Apr 4, 2019 4:43 AM

:previous:
Thanks for your help odinthor and Noir Noir. I really appreciate it.

I've been searching for another photograph of the church but haven't had much luck.


Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor

San Pedro comes to mind because there was long a strong Norwegian presence there.


San Pedro had crossed my mind as well, odinthor.

Remember this place...
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/eo8JW0.jpg
skyscraperpage

Still there. GSV


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