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BifRayRock Feb 28, 2016 2:36 AM

1932 - Glimpse of Hammel Street School


unihikid Feb 28, 2016 3:11 AM


Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 7335510)
Ill try and look for a photo. It was a ranch style building that was in ok condition (it had a bad elevator..the scout executive at the time got stuck in it). I want to say it was built around 1954, at least that's when the phone booth was installed. The copper roof building is what replaced it.

Here is the old council office. My former scoutmaster sent me his pics of it a few minutes ago. These were taking a few weeks before the demoed the place.

Photos by Me C/O R. Arnold and N. Schnable

SilentSleuth Feb 28, 2016 5:39 AM

Prison in Intolerance (1916)?
D.W. Griffith's 1916 masterpiece Intolerance features this scene of a prison. I've never been able to identify it, and wonder if it could possibly be outside of Southern California. Blu-ray 70 by SilentEchoes57, on Flickr

This image late in the film is the LA County Jail on Temple. Blu-ray 18 by SilentEchoes57, on Flickr

The jail (not the prison) appears in many early movies. Here the jail appears from my Silent Locations blog in Harry Houdini's The Grim Game https://silentlocations.files.wordpr...ps_page_15.jpg

Thank you for any ideas you may have.

Cheers, John

CityBoyDoug Feb 28, 2016 5:53 AM


Originally Posted by SilentSleuth (Post 7351818)
D.W. Griffith's 1916 masterpiece Intolerance features this scene of a prison. I've never been able to identify it, and wonder if it could possibly be outside of Southern California.

My first post - the image link isn't working for me, but here's the URL to my Flickr photos. Any tips for getting the [IMG] to work with Flickr?

This image late in the film is the LA County Jail on Temple.

Thank you for any ideas you may have.

Cheers, John

Welcome to the forum Silent Sleuth.!
A photo upload URL must look like this sample below:
[I use the free photobucket site.]

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silent film locations

GaylordWilshire Feb 28, 2016 1:48 PM


Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7351630)
A handful of original homes still exist on the 900 block of South Gramercy Pl. (From USC Digital "926 S. Gramercy.")

Have we seen these apartment houses from two different eras at the north corners of Ninth and San Marino?

GaylordWilshire Feb 28, 2016 1:57 PM

ER posted this mystery shot four years ago in post 9214....

Wonder if anyone has any new thoughts on where this might have been taken....

BifRayRock Feb 28, 2016 3:18 PM


Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6492023)

Before the formal advent of the Farmer's Mkt. at Third and Fairfax (:previous:) there was the "makeshift" road side market. The area was dotted with real estate'ers, including Guy M Bunch at 301 S. Fairfax. It seems Mr. Bunch moved with the times since he has a 1934 CD listing at 351 Fairfax.

1931 - The seeds of the Farmer's Market on the side of Fairfax?

NE view featuring the Gilmore name and Mary Pickford's favorite Formosa gasometer.

~E x SE view of Third and Fairfax. (That Mailbox is gov't property.)

1931 - Open

1931 - A closer look

1931 - Pay Pay Pay

BifRayRock Feb 28, 2016 3:44 PM

1932 - Melrose and Vine. Safeway and Carl Bussjaeger?

Cause of mess - unknown. Perhaps someone did not heed WigWag's advice: "obey all traffic laws, including no texting while traversing Melrose and Vine?" :shrug:

1932 - Safeway, featuring Carl B's meat cutting skills, was located at 5786 Melrose.

Sewer cover distraction?

Keeping the Sidewalk clean

Noircitydame Feb 28, 2016 3:49 PM


Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7351693)

Want some lead with that? I don't mean in the gasoline.

Bella Napoli, 711 N. Vermont at Melrose. The building was built in 1931 and they opened May 1, 1932. lat

Bella Napoli had the bad luck of being the scene of a double gangland shooting not long after it debuted. New York gangsters “Harry Mackley” (Abe Frank) and “Frank Keller” (Fred Kitty, aka Fred Harris) were having spaghetti dinners here with a couple of unidentified girlfriends at booth in the back here on the night of Aug 28, 1933. About 8pm 3 men entered and walked over to the booth, pulled out .45 automatics and opened fire on the men, killing them. They fled out the front door where they got away in a black sedan. None of the diners were able to provide a good description. Later the murder weapons were found in a storm drain at Van Ness and Franklin: a Colt Army .45, another Colt .45 with a silencer and a Remington 12 gauge shotgun.

Mackley and Keller were thought to have been in LA since July having fled New York after the murder of gang leader there Morrie Moll. They lived in a “fashionable Wilshire Blvd. hotel” then moved to an “exclusive apartment house” at 570 N. Rossmore (the Ravenswood). Their most recent address was a large house at 2760 Hollyridge Dr. in Hollywood. The killings were thought to have been revenge by members of Moll's gang. lat listing the address as 721. Aug 31, 1933 the cafe owners appealed to the public to not let a couple of eastern gangster murders keep them away.

No one was ever prosecuted for the crime (surprise), but Bella Napoli survived the notoriety. It closed c. 1940. The space became Savant restaurant July 1, 1941. In September 1945 the Braille Institute next door expanded into this space then that building was demolished in 1969. lat

Beaudry Feb 28, 2016 4:12 PM


BifRayRock Feb 28, 2016 4:12 PM

:previous: NCD: You posted a mouthful!:)

Bf Langer's aroma enveloped the neighborhood?

In 1928, Seventh and Westlake was wok-full of Asian-Style cuisine. Was the arrow borrowed from Liemert or vice versa?

2013 W 7th St. (Gaylord Street View? :no: ) gsv GSV

John Paul Feb 28, 2016 4:44 PM

Boulevard Stops, Los Angeles
At main cross-streets where there existed no traffic light or stop sign a motorists was obliged to make a full stop. Strangers to town had to be warned of this.

BifRayRock Feb 28, 2016 4:48 PM

For anyone who has suffered the embarrassment of a dirty radiator, this post is for YOU!

It appears that embarrassment can be a thing of the past (1931) if you were to visit 1425 W Pico, home of the Kleenator. Sadly, this product/service has not yet been fully embraced by a skeptical public, but with the right endorsement . . ."


But wait.

There's more.

1931 - (Inspections, top to bottom.) The inspection is free, but what about the service?

Please pay no attention to the treadless tires. (Obviously not Paul Whiteman's Vogue's)
1931 -

Specially treated water! (Prior to the repeal of Volstead, some specially treated water, may have tasted like radiator fluid. :no: )

Martin Pal Feb 28, 2016 6:04 PM

Yes, dear readers, it's time again for the OSCARS.

88th Annual Academy Awards!

And these days not much about it is on the QT or very HUSH - HUSH.


In their 88 years, the Oscars have only occupied 10 different Academy Awards theaters.

Designer Arnold Schwartzman created a set of old-fashioned postcards depicting every stop along the way. Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel

The Roosevelt only played host to one Academy Awards: the very first one, in 1929.

Ambassador Hotel

The Ambassador was the site of six Oscar shows between 1930 and 1943. Hotel

The Biltmore in downtown Los Angeles was the setting for eight ceremonies between 1931 and 1942.

Grauman's Chinese Theatre

The Chinese took over for a more subdued Oscars during World War II, handling three shows beginning in 1944. Auditorium

The biggest of the Oscar venues, at 6,000 seats, the Shrine was the site of two shows in the '40s and then eight more between 1988 and 2001.

Academy Awards Theater

When the studios withdrew their financial support, the Oscars had to downsize to the
985-seat theater in its Melrose Avenue headquarters in West Hollywood for one year, 1949. Theatre

Back in the money, the Oscars moved to Hollywood's spacious Pantages for the entire decade of the '50s.

Santa Monica Civic Auditorium

From 1961 to 1968, the Academy went to the beach, and to the 3,000-seat Santa Monica Civic. Chandler Pavilion

Much fancier digs beckoned in 1968 when the Oscars went back downtown to the newly constructed Chandler, home to the L.A. Philharmonic and site of 19 consecutive shows, and 25 in all.

Kodak Theatre / Dolby Theatre

In 2002, the Oscars moved into a venue built just for them: the Kodak Theatre, which has since been renamed the Dolby.

Noircitydame Feb 28, 2016 7:43 PM

Olympic & Western
I don't remember seeing this drive-in before. It's Christy's at the corner of Western & Olympic.

This photoset is from the Los Angeles Daily News collection at UCLA digital, c. 1937

neon sign for Christy's drive in here

The neon fabulousness of the exterior. Can see the reflection of the Uptown Theater sign from across the street. here

Carhop delivering a tray. There's a man eating at the counter inside and a pay phone on the wall. here

Coming back. Billboard for mayonaise. The Uptown Theater (1008 S. Western) is showing They Gave Him A Gun. It came out in LA theaters July 1937. Was at the Uptown the week of August 12, 1937. here

Beaten by the carhop in heels. All that rural area behind the car. ?

in case you were wondering what the high-heeled carhop looks like: here

customers in their car and the Bank of America on the NW cornerer of Olympic & Western here

carhops reporting for work here

LAPL has this view of the corner showing the Uptown building here

and looking the other way lapl

unihikid Feb 28, 2016 7:57 PM

The Uptown sure does look an awful lot like the Golden Gate over in east la

LAPL has this view of the corner showing the Uptown building

and looking the other way lapl[/QUOTE]

HossC Feb 28, 2016 8:07 PM

I posted a postcard of Wilshire Terrace in post #27217. There's a follow-up by tovangar2 in post #27223. This is Julius Shulman's "Job 2735: Victor Gruen Associates, Wilshire Terrace (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1959".

I didn't try to identify the cars in the other images, but the one on the left of this shot is a 1957 Oldsmobile, and across the street is a 1957 Buick Century convertible.

The set also includes these two night shots.

All from Getty Research Institute

Noircitydame Feb 28, 2016 8:33 PM


Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 7352150)
The Uptown sure does look an awful lot like the Golden Gate over in east la

LAPL has this view of the corner showing the Uptown building

I see what you mean. The Golden Gate building at Whittier & Atlantic dates to 1927. The theater survives as a CVS, but per L.A Conservancy the retail part of the building was demolished in the 1990s.

1950s view lapl

1938 view when the theater was showing Swing Your Lady lapl

The Uptown's building was done by Everett H. Merrill in 1925 lat 12-5-1925 lat 1925 image

The theater had its gala opening 12-29-1925 when Olympic was still 10th. lat

Sad image of the Uptown with demolition signage, November 1964. The site became a Ralphs market. The Bank of America roof sign was still there. lat

AlvaroLegido Feb 28, 2016 8:49 PM

Spanish type survivor

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7352081) Hotel

The Biltmore in downtown Los Angeles was the setting for eight ceremonies between 1931 and 1942.

Surprising to see this Spanish style survivor on the left by the Early Twenties at the earliest. The cars are Thirties. Could it be fake to provide a folkloric touch ?

ethereal_reality Feb 28, 2016 10:20 PM

AlvaroLegido wrote:


AlvaroLegido, the building you pointed out is the Pacific Mutual Garage annex built in 1925/26. (shown above, viewed from Grand Avenue)

Today, it's Olive St. facade (visible in Martin Pal's vintage postcard) is mostly hidden behind a tree.

it's the long narrow building below.


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