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Martin Pal Feb 19, 2016 2:05 AM

Speaking of Frank Gehry, have we posted this KFC designed by Jeffrey Daniels,
who once worked for him? It was completed in 1990, over twenty-five years ago.

This is located at 340 N. Western Ave. in Koreatown.

http://images1.laweekly.com/imager/3...0/ugly_002.jpgL.A. Weekly

John Maddox Roberts Feb 19, 2016 2:12 AM

I wonder if calling your place the "Garden of Allah"would make you the target for a terrorist attack these days? I know it was named for a woman named Ala, but terrorist types arent into subtleties like that.

Lwize Feb 19, 2016 3:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7339173)

In for my dissenting opinion:

I love Gehry designs, and would whole-heartedly welcome this design for the site.

:tup:

Martin Pal Feb 19, 2016 6:03 AM

:previous:

To me it looks like three buildings after a 7.1 earthquake.

I just feel the lowness of this specific intersection where people can appreciate the canyon around them from street level is one of the few "central" spots in Los Angeles. This specific intersection feels like it should always be left open with low buildings rather than taller ones that eat up the natural airspace. Tall is fine in other places but this specific intersection really feels like it should remain low.

Forget about the increased traffic we can’t handle on the narrow Sunset Blvd. streets, forget about the water we don’t have enough of already, or the sewer system that is ancient and in need of repair/replacement…the thing is inappropriate,
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Something I heard, anyone know if this is true?

--In the years between 2000 and 2010, Los Angeles added only 97,801 people. Yes, that is for an entire decade. Not since 1890 to 1900 did L.A. add so few people.

haiku99 Feb 19, 2016 8:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7338307)





then it was Mardi Gras Ballroom for a little while before becoming Zucca’s Opera House in 1948 and more of a theater again. Betty Rowland is one of the first acts booked.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...le/zucca48.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...ttyrowland.jpg Betty R.; previously on nla



As Zucca’s, it burned down in February 1950.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...-21-50fire.jpg 2-21-1950 lat. Shows the Art Deco addition of 1938

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...21-50zucca.jpg 2-21-1950. Looks like it still had some of the English Tudor touches in 1950.

BTW, Betty Rowland is still alive at 100 :cheers:...good article below...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leslie...b_9065388.html

Earl Boebert Feb 19, 2016 3:32 PM

If you haven't seen this before:

http://www.theonion.com/graphic/fran...dwiches-f-8716

Cheers,

Earl

Martin Pal Feb 19, 2016 5:52 PM

:previous:

:haha:

GaylordWilshire Feb 19, 2016 8:09 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9...85_n.jpg?gl=USimbuedwithhues


Ran across this colorization of a photo we've seen on NLA before (117 E 6th St)-- not sure about the color of the Chevrolet, but interesting....

HossC Feb 19, 2016 8:12 PM

I posted a trio of 1952 Julius Shulman photos of the Tishman Building at 3440 Wilshire Boulevard in post #31069. These two are from a year later. The full set contains four images, but they basically only show two views, so I picked the two landscape shots. This is "Job 1447: Claude Beelman, Tishman Building (Los Angeles, Calif.),1953".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

Here's a close-up of Veloz & Yolanda's at 3500 Wilshire (see below). By 1954, Normandie Avenue was re-routed to come out next to the Tishman Building.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

The other Shulman shot is probably too bright, shiny and clean to be noirish, but it's the closest I get :).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

Both from Getty Research Institute

GW posted a similar image of Veloz & Yolanda's in post #30805. It included a link to his Wilshire Boulevard Houses blog on the subject, and was a response to e_r's post #30804, which has a then-and-now of a later building at 3500 Wilshire Boulevard.

ethereal_reality Feb 19, 2016 8:57 PM

:previous: I think it's quite noirish Hoss. I mean, just look at the lights and shadows playing together on that shiny car. (and I bet there's a body in the trunk ;))



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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 7340619)

Interesting-- I forgot about the Beverly Arms-- in ER's color view,
I was at first seeing the octagonal Standard station office as the corner of a two-story building....


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g...2520PM.bmp.jpg

:previous: I thought it was the corner of the building as well GW.
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Here's an interesting amateur slide I found on eBay last month; it's new to NLA.


Wilshire Blvd. [no date]
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/rueJUB.jpg
eBay

That's a great looking Mobil station over there on the right-------> :previous: I don't remember seeing it before (in vintage aerials...etc.)

The name of the hotel/apartment building escapes my mind at the moment.

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ethereal_reality Feb 19, 2016 9:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7341052)

340 N. Western Ave., Koreatown.
http://images1.laweekly.com/imager/3...0/ugly_002.jpgL.A. Weekly

I'm speechless......almost.

What could possibly be in that huge bulbous part? The design doesn't make any sense what-so-ever.
Surely this was designed as something other than a KFC. Is that right M P?


*OK, after I looked at the photo again, I realize that the "bulbous' area is actually shaped like a 'bucket of chicken'. -my bad.
That said, the clumsy spaces sitting on top of the 'bucket' are quite awful.
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the colonel's iconic bucket
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/hf7oce.jpg
http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...conic-Original

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Tourmaline Feb 19, 2016 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7341951)
.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

Both from Getty Research Institute

GW posted a similar image of Veloz & Yolanda's in post #30805. It included a link to his Wilshire Boulevard Houses blog on the subject, and was a response to e_r's post #30804, which has a then-and-now of a later building at 3500 Wilshire Boulevard.


:hi:Thanks for doing so much heavy lifting on these Shulman images. They are appreciated.


Somewhat geographically related to :previous:. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=31210

GaylordWilshire Feb 19, 2016 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7342013)
Here's an interesting amateur slide I found on eBay last month; it's new to NLA.


Wilshire Blvd. [no date]
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/rueJUB.jpg
eBay

That's a great looking Mobil station over there on the right-------> :previous: I don't remember seeing it before (in vintage aerials...etc.)

The name of the hotel/apartment building escapes my mind at the moment.

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The apartment building is the Park Wilshire at the SE corner of Carondelet; the Mobil station is on the site of 2520 Wilshire Boulevard; HossC showed us the station recently in one of his Julius Shulman posts, number 32988

ethereal_reality Feb 20, 2016 12:12 AM

Thx GW. Here's a postcard of the Park Wilshire.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/6Bb7BU.jpg
eBay

The Mobil station looks quite different in Hoss's Shulman post. It's missing the tower/pylon.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=32988

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ethereal_reality Feb 20, 2016 12:32 AM

I believe the following four slides were taken on the same day as the Park Wilshire/Mobil station slide.

#1

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/q5zVWs.jpg
eBay





#2

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/4dyGOD.jpg
eBay





#3

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/tQt7k8.jpg
eBay




#4

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/UoRkHy.jpg
eBay

:previous: It's a bit difficult to read, but I believe the plaque says Pierre(?) Crest.
I haven't figured out where this apartment building (hotel?) is located as of yet.


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HossC Feb 20, 2016 1:03 AM

:previous:

The Pierre Crest Apartments were at 673 Shatto Place. The building still stands, but I think the name has gone. It's also lost its basement windows.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...t.jpg~original
GSV

GaylordWilshire Feb 20, 2016 1:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7342289)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/UoRkHy.jpg
eBay

It's a bit difficult to read, but I believe the plaque says Pierre(?) Crest.
I haven't figured out where this apartment building (hotel?) is located.
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Yes, it's the Pierre Crest at 673 Shatto Place:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-k....bmp.jpg?gl=USGSV

GaylordWilshire Feb 20, 2016 1:10 AM

:previous:

Great minds...

broadwy_central_bldg Feb 20, 2016 1:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7342045)
I'm speechless......almost.

What could possibly be in that huge bulbous part? The design doesn't make any sense what-so-ever.
Surely this was designed as something other than a KFC. Is that right M P?


*OK, after I looked at the photo again, I realize that the "bulbous' area is actually shaped like a 'bucket of chicken'. -my bad.
That said, the clumsy spaces sitting on top of the 'bucket' are quite awful.
________

the colonel's iconic bucket
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/hf7oce.jpg
http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...conic-Original

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It is also shaped like an actual chicken! The 'clumsy spaces' are its neck and head, and it even has wings! I used to live near this building, and I actually like it. It's garish, but I've never seen such adventurous design for a lowly fast food restaurant. Clearly a nod to "programmatic" architecture of LA's past...

haiku99 Feb 20, 2016 8:20 AM

A big list of classic film noir on YouTube, and many are set in L.A.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...1IZkSGswEXDNQ1


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