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ProphetM Feb 3, 2013 5:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5999076)

LOL.

"I believe every cemetery in populated sections of Los Angeles should be closed and the bodies disinterred and removed to sections where they will remain forever undisturbed."

So... let's dig up these bodies from resting places where they were meant to lie undisturbed forever, and move them somewhere else... where they are meant to lie undisturbed forever. We really mean it this time. Because there's no chance that the city will continue to grow and the next place we put them might one day become valuable, you know, just like the first place we put them.

How hilariously myopic and sad.

tovangar2 Feb 3, 2013 5:54 PM

"It's about the water."
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5563855)
... and now the owners are the controversial Resnicks of Pom juice and Fiji water (totally not "green", no matter how they spin it) notoriety. Opinions on the current chatelaine vary, but perhaps so they did of Marie Antoinette of a previous Petit Trianon. (I bet Marie, for all her cluelessness, was less full of herself.) Anyway, I'm sure the windows are never opened, so traffic noise isn't a problem. The Resnicks apparently spent a fortune replicating the original fence--though it doesn't look quite the same to me--and bringing it out to Sunset. But then we have the great leveler... garbage. Just like the humblest bungalow elsewhere in town, the grander than grand Resnicks have to put up with wheelybins in front of the house.

9481 Sunset, Beverly Hills
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-W...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-p...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View

It's a tad more complex now and the crooks are more clever and working on a bigger scale, but remember Jake, it's still Chinatown...

http://exiledonline.com/how-limousin...-water-supply/

sopas ej Feb 3, 2013 6:03 PM

Here's what that corner looks like today, via Google Street View:
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2...etaand37th.png

Only now Moneta is called Broadway Place. I'm not sure when the name of the street changed; 1950s, maybe?

It looks like the same streetlamp on the corner. I doubt that's the same utility pole, though, but where it's placed looks very close to the same spot.

tovangar2 Feb 3, 2013 6:16 PM

Potter Park Drive and the "Phantoms"
 
Thank you so much FlyingWedge for the great post. I like the look of the Parkinson building, that was a loss, now replaced by rubbish. And of course that's Abigail Stark's little house pictured just to the north of the Flower Street First Baptist church:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=11101

And thx too to FredH and GaylordWilshire for the background on the "Phantoms". I knew Cathedral High was built on a graveyard, but not the whole story.

Really interesting posts.


P.S.
Some of you may remember that Cathedral High almost got disinterred too:
http://articles.latimes.com/1985-12-...chool-graduate

ethereal_reality Feb 3, 2013 6:46 PM

Fanastic post on the Potter Park Street area Flyingwedge!
I had no idea the Beck Hotel/Apts used to be The Schermerhorn. Good detective work.

The Brownstein-Louis building had a couple impressive skylights. I would love to see those two atriums.

http://imageshack.us/a/img338/3007/a...verallbldg.jpg
posted by flyingwedge

Hopefully we uncover interior views of the Brownstein-Louis building someday.
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Godzilla Feb 3, 2013 6:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 5999167)
Here's what that corner looks like today, via Google Street View:
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2...etaand37th.png

Only now Moneta is called Broadway Place. I'm not sure when the name of the street changed; 1950s, maybe?

It looks like the same streetlamp on the corner. I doubt that's the same utility pole, though, but where it's placed looks very close to the same spot.



What could have been?

1931 - Proposal. Different configuration suggests different address.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0USC Digital

Another fascinating Sock shop is Theme in Glendale. (San Fernando Road and Fletcher Drive) According to notes, it became a parochial school in the '60s.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0USC Digital

Godzilla Feb 3, 2013 6:52 PM

More on Theme. :previous: Notes and Photos from http://www.lagenealogy.com/themehosieryphotos.htm

http://www.lagenealogy.com/photos/Th...ofBuilding.jpg



Wonder if anyone was wearing Mission Hills' reinforced toe?
http://www.lagenealogy.com/photos/ThemeHosiery1926.jpg

http://www.lagenealogy.com/photos/THschoolArticle1.jpg

http://www.lagenealogy.com/photos/THbuilding.jpg



http://www.lagenealogy.com/photos/Th...inThisYarn.jpg

http://www.lagenealogy.com/photos/THgrounds.jpg

ethereal_reality Feb 3, 2013 6:57 PM

Here's a Theme Hosiery Co. building before and after Godzilla. The basic form is still there...but nothing else,
and the color scheme is green and red...arrrgh.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2661

an interesting comment on the Ribet Academy (in the old Theme building) by sopas_ej here

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2667

I love the Mission Hosiery illustration Godzilla. -great find.
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GaylordWilshire Feb 3, 2013 7:06 PM

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3...ysrobcompl.jpgLAT

GaylordWilshire Feb 3, 2013 7:06 PM

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/9...empledualb.jpg

The Temple/Pico mausoleum at the El Camp Santo Cemetery, City of Industry


http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4...ainsnewtop.jpg
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/9...snewbottom.jpg


http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/967...ectedcompl.jpg



Photo source and more info on El Campo Santo: http://homesteadmuseum.org/ElCampoSanto


Articles: LAT

tovangar2 Feb 3, 2013 7:37 PM

Studebaker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alester young (Post 5998964)
G

Check out the 1936 Studebaker President and Dictator Coupes with the batwing rear window. One was shown in a 1937/8 photo of Wilshire Boulevard, but unfortunately I can not now find the post.

Had never heard of these until reading this blog. Very cool looking.

alester

It was the Studebaker Starlight, Champion and Commander (below) that we thought were cool as kids, b/c we thought they looked like rocket ships. These were the ones later used on Max Headroom: Twenty Minutes Into the Future (1987-88):

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-W...638%2520AM.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G...913%2520AM.jpg
cruise news

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-c...911%2520AM.jpg
encarsglobe.com

ethereal_reality Feb 3, 2013 7:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 5998781)
I was cruising around Baist's 1921 Real Estate Atlas (thank you ProphetM) and I came across this cemetery on
North Broadway next to the Southern Pacific Rail Yard.

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2...rycemetery.jpg
www.historicmapworks.com

http://imageshack.us/a/img89/4447/aabcalvarynewsgw.jpg

I found these photographs on an old cd of mine. Most of the images on the disk were from calisphere so I'm guessing these were too.

"The Workmen Monument in the old Catholic Cemetery of the Pueblo Los Angeles on North Broadway." Shown in 1925 shortly before the cemetery's desecration.

http://imageshack.us/a/img202/6016/a...eteryworkm.jpg
http://www.calisphere.universityofcalifornia.edu/

Note the makeshift wood & chicken-wire fence. (and the severe ground erosion at right)





below: The overgrown old Calvary Cemetery on North Broadway in 1920.

http://imageshack.us/a/img841/8043/a...etery1920o.jpghttp://www.calisphere.universityofcalifornia.edu/





below: The Pico Family Tomb in the old Calvary Cemetery on North Broadway.

http://imageshack.us/a/img831/1721/a...eterypicof.jpg
http://www.calisphere.universityofcalifornia.edu/



below: The old Calvary Cemetery in complete disrepair, date unknown.

http://imageshack.us/a/img716/7124/a...etery1880t.jpg
http://www.calisphere.universityofcalifornia.edu/

I can easily visualize the three boys desecrating the tomb of Capt. Bell in 1921.

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Godzilla Feb 3, 2013 7:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 5550711)
Still in a Rosslyn state of mind, I thought I'd post a few more articles and photos.

The Rosslyn underwent many expansions and changes over the years. At one point I think 7 stories were added, then destroyed by fire, and then removed. Anyway, here's an 1917 article about the major early expansion, which made it the 4th largest hotel in the world. This is the original Rosslyn location on Main between 4th and 5th.

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Rosslyn/1...ds.biggest.jpg
http://search.proquest.com/hnplatime...ccountid=11124

While preparing for my visit yesterday I was surprised by the number of suicides, murders, and other crimes that I found. I guess it makes sense though, since the place was around for about a century and had 1100 rooms at its peak.

On December 16, 1906 a "rich madman" brandishing 2 revolvers robbed the desk clerk.
http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Rosslyn/1...ich_madman.jpg

http://search.proquest.com/hnplatime...ccountid=11124

The first documented suicide seems to have taken place in 1912. From the L.A. Times, dated December 10, 1912.

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Rosslyn/12.10.12.suicide.jpg
http://search.proquest.com/hnplatime...ccountid=11124

A man jumped from the roof in 1920. Looks like the expansion discussed in the 1917 Times story had not begun yet. I think the graphic was posted here long ago, but not the L.A. Times story.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...G-ROS-002?v=hr
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...G-ROS-002?v=hr

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Rosslyn/12.4.20.plunge.jpg
http://search.proquest.com/hnplatime...ccountid=11124

Thought this had been seen before, but seems missing.

1917 - Main Street looking north. Mighty big Rosslyn sign.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0USC Digital

tovangar2 Feb 3, 2013 8:05 PM

Brownstein-Louis building
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5999222)
Fanastic post on the Potter Park Street area Flyingwedge!

The Brownstein-Louis building had a couple impressive skylights. I would love to see those two atriums.

http://imageshack.us/a/img338/3007/a...verallbldg.jpg
posted by flyingwedge

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A little background on the Brownstein-Louis Building (not to be confused with the other Brownstein-Louis building on Los Angeles St):
http://urbandiachrony.wordpress.com/...-st-1929-2011/

Godzilla Feb 3, 2013 8:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5999240)
Here's a Theme Hosiery Co. building before and after Godzilla. The basic form is still there...but nothing else,
and the color scheme is green and red...arrrgh.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2661

an interesting comment on the Ribet Academy (in the old Theme building) by sopas_ej here

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2667


1959 - Theme building and environs

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0

USC Digital


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0



Cinnamon rolls smell pretty good right now.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ery&DMROTATE=0

tovangar2 Feb 3, 2013 8:24 PM

Pio Pico
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5999283)

below: The Pico Family Tomb in the old Calvary Cemetery on North Broadway.

http://imageshack.us/a/img831/1721/a...eterypicof.jpg
http://www.calisphere.universityofcalifornia.edu/
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Thank you so much for the terrific pix e_r. I was curious to see the original iron tomb:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j...837%2520PM.jpg

More:
http://www.ulwaf.com/LA-1900s/02.01.html
http://www.ladowntownnews.com/news/t...f0ed1c0d3.html
http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_fo...your-dead.html


More great pix:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-u...039%2520PM.jpg
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics48/00073986.jpg

BifRayRock Feb 3, 2013 9:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5082457)
Another small gem of a lost downtown building is the Maddux Air Lines ticket office, which once stood at 636 S. Olive, near the 7th Street Silverwoods, on the site of what is now a parking lot:

http://www.nileguide.com/destination...HARRIS_SUN.jpghttp://www.nileguide.com/destination...HARRIS_SUN.jpg
Sun Realty Bulding, 629 S. Hill St., 1930. It's by Claude Beelman, who also did the Union Oil Building recently discussed. It seems that all design in L.A. in this period is interconnected, and very local.

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...G2EH8QJFGL.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...4QNKG73JX3.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...L8X58A323V.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...V6B2CNQV3T.jpg


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...ITTPMLLDNP.jpg All from CalStLib




1920 - Harris and Frank do Broadway
http://www.plummersearch.com/blog/wp...1_edited-2.jpg


http://www.plummersearch.com/blog/wp...3_edited-1.jpg

http://www.plummersearch.com/blog/wp...4_edited-1.jpg

http://www.plummersearch.com/blog/wp...5_edited-1.jpg
http://www.plummersearch.com/blog/wp...2_edited-1.jpghttp://www.plummersearch.com

Godzilla Feb 3, 2013 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 5985704)
According to David Gebhard and Robert Winter in Guide to Architecture in Los Angeles in Southern California 5401 Wilshire was originally a Spanish Colonial Revival Building from the 20s. (I've spent way too much time over the years staring at the filigree-embossed chimney pot at the apex of the tower tying to figure it out.) They list Marcus P Miller as the architect for the 30s remodel as opposed to Anderson & Norstrom listed by the you-are-here web site. I don't know which is correct.

I always thought the deep recess high on the Wilshire facade may have originally been a window.


I can't make out the sign in this highly airbrushed and colored view:
http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_fo...8-d3e12667.jpg
Werner von Boltenstern Postcard Collection, Department of Archives and Special Collections, Loyola Marymount University Library

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4098/4...6d8618c2_z.jpg
jasperdo/flickr



Attributed date is 1952. I think the sign reads "Bank of America."

http://www.plummersearch.com/blog/wp...yerSiegel2.jpg

http://www.plummersearch.com/blog/wp...yerSiegel2.jpg

http://www.plummersearch.com/blog/wp...er-Siegel1.jpghttp://www.plummersearch.com/blog/wp...er-Siegel1.jpg

ethereal_reality Feb 3, 2013 10:27 PM

tovanger2, I hope you don't mind if I post a couple items from the links you provided.
(sometimes people skip the outside links)


Absolutely horrible what was done with Maria Ygnacia Pico's remains. Truly sad.

http://imageshack.us/a/img688/8042/a...underlined.jpg
http://www.ladowntownnews.com/news/t...f0ed1c0d3.html

I was trying to visualize Andres Briswalter's extravagant tomb when I realized it was pictured in one of the other links T2 provided.
No wonder they took to calling it a chapel!

http://imageshack.us/a/img842/8093/aabcalv1link1.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img845/7161/a...link2ulwaf.jpg
http://www.ulwaf.com/LA-1900s/02.01.html
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Here's another photograph of the old Calvary Cemetery, this time with a spirit ascending to heaven. :)

http://imageshack.us/a/img195/9981/a...emteryfami.jpg
http://www.calisphere.universityofcalifornia.edu/
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BifRayRock Feb 3, 2013 10:42 PM



1910 - Huntington Beach is populated with campers and their tents. One of the photos is labeled: "The Dream of Summer." "Winnifred don't forget Theodosia's smelling salts!"

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...X5RK2EF8P5.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...3LRAJT6QI2.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...7GNNLQ4H2F.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...RV2872RA3X.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...Y1SI7HM5FV.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...7LDQJKAPDP.jpg All from Cal.St.Lib


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