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Scott Charles Sep 16, 2020 11:35 PM

Here's the pic with the keystoning removed, e_r:

https://i.imgur.com/MjBbYpL.jpg

BDiH Sep 17, 2020 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9043815)

The famous Hollywood Ranch Market was next door (to the north / across La Mirada) so Steve Allen would often do skits at the market. (or, as you can see, in front of the market)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/IXwb3h.jpg
hauntedstudio

I was born in 1960 so I don't remember The New Steve Allen Show. (or for that matter the original Steve Allen Show)

I'll end with this sweet snapshot from Alison's site.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/JZlKIX.jpg
martinostimemachine

In front of 1228 Vine Street.

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Around that time, 1961, I used to hang out at the Hollywood Playground's (now the Hollywood Recreation Center) public swimming pool and basketball courts. Afterwards, I would walk east on Lexington to the Baskin-Robbins on Vine and often see Steve Allen out on the street with a crowd around him doing live shots for his TV program. He used the Ranch Market and the Villa Elaine Apartments across the street as foils for his skits. Steve and his troupe, Louis Nye ("Hi-ho, Steverino"), Don Knotts, Tom Poston and Bill Dana were always around. Simpler times. Good memories.

Snix Sep 17, 2020 1:41 AM

Duperrault told the 1910 census that his profession was home builder and that he owned 434 Lake Ave. In 1916 he built shops at 3909 – 3911 S. Vermont Ave. and 3639 – 3641 S. Vermont Ave. The business address on the permits is 230 S. Soto St. which ran real estate ads in the Herald without addresses.

Los Angeles Herald, Volume XLII, Number 11, 14 November 1916

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9043696)
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mystery location

I happened upon this fine looking rppc a few days ago on eBay


California Home of A. Duperrault ...Los Angeles, Cal.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/gJ9PY9.jpg

I cropped this one a bit to reduce the slant. ........................................................................................................................................................................................................I couldn't decide which one to use.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/AE7Z7b.jpg
eBay

There's a hand-written arrow pointing to one of the windows. . .(perhaps a visitor pointing out the guest room) :shrug:


A. Duperrault moved & moved & moved & moved.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/AGOTAT.jpg
lapl

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/YwDrTv.jpg
lapl

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/GT7p7E.jpg
lapl

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/mfuQGC.jpg
lapl

So how do I decide which address is the correct one?


Easy.

I didn't realize until after I looked through the directories that the address is on the back! :duh


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/27Qd4f.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/EfSuwA.jpg

Adolphe Duperrault hasn't previously appeared in the thread. Does anyone know who he was?


For search purposes:.....Adolphe Duperrault..... 434 Lake Street..... Los Angeles
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ethereal_reality Sep 17, 2020 4:05 PM

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noirishers -

who wants to bite the bullet & translate this?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/tWnbRF.jpg
duperrault postcard

...other than "glacial Detroit" it's in French.

. . .devenir des serviteurs occupes! :superwhip

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Godzilla Sep 17, 2020 6:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 9043939)
:previous:

I too remember seeing 446 N Lake Street on NLA, and probably the little courtyard next door too, but I also failed to find them.

BTW. The property sites given a build date of 1916 for the current 434 N Lake Street house. That's just five years after Mr Duperrault was there.




:shrug:

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...postcount=4580
https://farm7.static.flickr.com/6079...97f37143_z.jpg

AlvaroLegido Sep 17, 2020 6:09 PM

Difficult to read
 
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9044691)
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noirishers -who wants to bite the bullet & translate this?
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/tWnbRF.jpg
duperrault postcard
...
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" […] The health is good since we are here. Please write sometimes. [X] works in a store from 8 to 6 every day. We always think to you  […] We have a very good climate and a radiant sun very appreciated after getting out of the freezing Detroit. Thousand kisses to share."

HossC Sep 17, 2020 6:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rick m (Post 9043996)

Rick M. writes---
Well I did post my own photo of this glorious apartment at Lake street -- About eight years ago-- no one commented about it as I remember---!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 9044039)

I couldn't find your post, rick, but here's one from five years ago. The building at 446 N. Lake was moved there from 624 S. Alvarado in 1924.


Thanks, rick m, Flyingwedge and Godzilla. I knew I hadn't imagined it. I'll just have to look harder next time!

riichkay Sep 17, 2020 7:48 PM

Because whenever I think of hair styling, the first name that always comes to mind is Redd Foxx....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
Getty/Ed Ruscha

7561 Sunset Blvd., August 1975.



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odinthor Sep 17, 2020 7:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6331369)

[...]


The apartments include this archaic garage located behind the building on Zalvidea Street (what a name!).
http://imageshack.us/a/img703/1548/yqqr.jpg

[...]

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e_r, from my notes:

Zalvidea, Jose Maria (Padre) March 2, 1780, born at Bilbao, Spain; August 31, 1805, arrived in California at San Francisco; February 1, 1806, to August 31, 1806, assigned to Mission San Fernando Rey; December 19, 1806, to January 15, 1827, served at Mission San Gabriel; ca. 1821, noted by eventual centenarian Eulalia Perez at San Gabriel as treating the Indians very well, and much beloved; his enthusiastic efforts at grapevine cultivation at Mission San Gabriel, undertaken without the approval of his superiors, at length brought about his forced transfer to Mission San Juan Capistrano, thus March 4, 1826 (overlaps service at Mission San Gabriel) to November 26, 1842, at Mission San Juan Capistrano; as the years went on, increasingly mystical, and some thought him mad; “There were those who tried to brand him insane, but they had no basis in fact. They were just reacting to the Father’s habit of telling them the bitter truth about their abuses and disorderliness”; end of November?, 1842, to ca. the latter part of June, 1846 (when he died), served at Mission San Luis Rey.


By the way, those interested in California history as well as partying might wish to celebrate today September 17 as the (1776) day the San Francisco Presidio was established!

CaliNative Sep 18, 2020 3:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9044691)
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noirishers -

who wants to bite the bullet & translate this?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/tWnbRF.jpg
duperrault postcard

...other than "glacial Detroit" it's in French.

. . .devenir des serviteurs occupes! :superwhip

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I understand a little French but the cursive script is quite illegible. Amazing we used to write this way. Sometimes I have trouble reading my old longhand. Good luck to any brave soul who wants to plunge into the cursive spaghetti. Amazed the post office was able to deliver these nearly every time.

ethereal_reality Sep 18, 2020 5:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido (Post 9044870)
[…] The health is good since we are here. Please write sometimes. [X] works in a store from 8 to 6 every day. We always think to you  […] We have a very good climate and a radiant sun very appreciated after getting out of the freezing Detroit. Thousand kisses to share.

Thanks for the translation, AlvaroLegido.

I was hoping the message would contain some intriguing clues but I see it was the usual generic postcard message.

_______________________________________________________________________________________





& I appreciate the information on Zalvidea Street, odinthor.

At first I didn't realize you were talking about the street behind N. Lake Street.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/BP7PMh.jpg
google aerial


If the street number for the house, once it became apartments, was 446 1/2 - 448 1/2 (a duplex)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/UVc4rk.jpg
1950 Sanborn Map


Why so many garage spaces?


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/PO5mr8.jpg
gsv


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/NwzMVw.jpg
gsv

A total of six. (when I started this post I actually thought there were more than that)

________________________________________________________________________




& while I'm thanking people. . :)

Thanks for straightening the Duperrault house, Scott Charles. It looks great!

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ethereal_reality Sep 19, 2020 1:28 AM

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...A mystery parade showing a delegation of men wearing white suits and carrying white umbrellas!


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/pnBPnv.jpg
eBay

The contingent makes me thinks of New Orleans or the Caribbean. It's possible the men are of African or African-American descent but it's a bit difficult to tell for sure.



the reverse.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/SCG9DB.jpg

.... "Swobd" :shrug:

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odinthor Sep 19, 2020 2:06 AM

:previous:

Swobdi Millinery...

https://i.postimg.cc/gJh4FXwm/Swobdi-Her-17-8-29.jpg
Los Angeles Herald, 8/29/1917

CaliNative Sep 19, 2020 6:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9046698)
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...A mystery parade showing a delegation of men wearing white suits and carrying white umbrellas!


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/pnBPnv.jpg
eBay

The contingent makes me thinks of New Orleans or the Caribbean. It's possible the men are of African or African-American descent but it's a bit difficult to tell for sure.



the reverse.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/SCG9DB.jpg

.... "Swobd" :shrug:

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^^^
Looks like an early version of the Doo Dah Parade. But seriously, many labor organizations long ago had men in white suits carrying umbrellas in parades as a symbol of labor unity (workers under the umbrella/protection of a union). Here is another example from Indiana in the early 20th century--again men in white suits with umbrellas, in this case a baker's union; click on the photo in the link below and you see the umbrella men in white suits:

https://indianaalbum.pastperfectonli...D-933439182128

So, in all likelihood the parade in your photo is some sort of union parade, probably on Labor Day. I don't know what SWOBD means, but maybe it was some sort of millinery union (hatmakers). The word millinery is on the back of the postcard.

odinthor Sep 19, 2020 2:00 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/yNDJYxMG/Swobdi-LAT-04-4-16.jpg
LA Times, 4/16/1904

Earl Boebert Sep 19, 2020 2:58 PM

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Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9047024)

The dark store sign at the upper left reads "Swobdi."

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality Sep 19, 2020 3:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative
Labor organizations long ago had men in white suits carrying umbrellas in parades as a symbol of labor unity (workers under the umbrella/protection of a union).

:previous: That solves the white suits / white umbrellas mystery! Good sleuthing, CaliNative. If I had known I would have posted the parade photograph on Labor Day.

odinthor. . . so 'Swobdi' is the store. I can see it now in the photograph. (that's the reason millinery was written on the back of the pic) :duh


I've never heard of Swobdi as a surname. If you search for it on the internet you get zip. (nothing)
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ethereal_reality Sep 19, 2020 4:08 PM

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mystery location. (1965)...

Does anyone recognize this beach? It's in the Los Angeles area. :shrug:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/WPU6TS.jpg
rediscovered in an old file of mine (I hope I haven't posted it some years back)

As you can see there's an antique store on the left and a Mobil gas station on the right.




UPDATE:

I just noticed the answer is right there in the photograph....Does anyone else see it?

. . .or have any idea what's going on in the photo?

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unihikid Sep 19, 2020 4:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9047159)
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mystery location. (1965)...

Does anyone recognize this beach? It's in the Los Angeles area. :shrug:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/WPU6TS.jpg
rediscovered in an old file of mine (I hope I haven't posted it some years back)

As you can see there's an antique store on the left and a Mobil gas station on the right.




UPDATE:

I just noticed the answer is right there in the photograph....Does anyone else see it?

. . .or have any idea what's going on in the photo?

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Huntington Beach ... I mean "hcaeB notgnitnuH";)

ethereal_reality Sep 19, 2020 5:04 PM

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Yep. Good eye, unihikid....lol







OK, here's a mystery location that I don't know the answer to.

I found it on a website honoring the child actress Lassie Lou.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...922/LXVH4b.jpg

"The Helen Holmes Serial (1924)"










https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Gk0mof.jpg
younghollywood

As you can see it shows a woman and a child (Helen Holmes? and li'l Lassie Lou) on an old wooden tressle. There is a small settlement on the far side of the bridge.





Super-duper LARGE.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/IU8gN7.jpg
younghollywood

I spy a doggy too.



Here are the episodes if anyone wants to check them out.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/iUtpRc.jpg
imdb

........................................................................................:lmao:








these episodes are actually from an earlier serial, Hazards of Helen....(Lassie Lou wasn't born until 1920)


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