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Los Angeles Past Sep 8, 2011 2:15 AM

Mystery car
 
F3 and GaylordWilshire,

Speaking of stylin' 1940s automobiles, can you maybe ID this car? All my life I've wondered what make it was, but this photo from our family album gives no indication. As I've said before on this thread, my mom worked for the popular baritone singer John Charles Thomas during the war years, and he bought this fancy new station wagon at the end of 1945. (The photo was taken Christmas 1945 at JCT's home at 2100 Mandeville Canyon Rd.)


https://otters.net/img/lanoir/johnch...gon_xmas45.jpg


-Scott

unihikid Sep 8, 2011 3:26 AM

that is for sure a packard i want to say a 42 but i may be wrong,its rare because its a custom car,it looks to be a wagon.packard offered ac in 1937!the way it worked was that the faster you went the colder the ac compressor got.sorry to get off subject.

charlie

Fab Fifties Fan Sep 8, 2011 4:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Los Angeles Past (Post 5403920)
F3 and GaylordWilshire,

Speaking of stylin' 1940s automobiles, can you maybe ID this car? All my life I've wondered what make it was, but this photo from our family album gives no indication. As I've said before on this thread, my mom worked for the popular baritone singer John Charles Thomas during the war years, and he bought this fancy new station wagon at the end of 1945. (The photo was taken Christmas 1945 at JCT's home at 2100 Mandeville Canyon Rd.)


http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/v...gon_xmas45.jpg


-S

Beautiful! That is a 1941 Packard 120 but it is in a woodie style I have not seen before. The normal 120 woodie is a typical station wagon. I am sure this is a Darrin customization (Packard factory ordered), but I really want to find out if it is a one-off.

With your permission Scott, I would love to send this picture to my Packard club to get further information?

~F3

Los Angeles Past Sep 8, 2011 4:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fab Fifties Fan (Post 5404025)
Beautiful! That is a 1941 Packard 120 but it is in a woodie style I have not seen before. The normal 120 woodie is a typical station wagon. I am sure this is a Darrin customization (Packard factory ordered), but I really want to find out if it is a one-off.

With your permission Scott, I would love to send this picture to my Packard club to get further information?

~F3


Absolutely! Please do. Like I said, I've been curious about this car forever. What do you think the chrome lettering says? Seems to start with an 'O' and end with a 'rty'. I could never figure that out.

Thanks to you and unihikid for the replies!

-S

PS: On the back, John Charles typed, "Lest ye forget the new station wagon....." I wonder why he'd call a '41 Packard "new" in 1945? Maybe that's when he had the coachwork done? I guess we'll never know.

Fab Fifties Fan Sep 8, 2011 4:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Los Angeles Past (Post 5404043)
Absolutely! Please do. Like I said, I've been curious about this car forever. What do you think the chrome lettering says? Seems to start with an 'O' and end with a 'rty'. I could never figure that out.

Thanks to you and unihikid for the replies!

-S

PS: On the back, John Charles typed, "Lest ye forget the new station wagon....." I wonder why he'd call a '41 Packard "new" in 1945? Maybe that's when he had the coachwork done? I guess we'll never know.

That is a mystery as the body style is quite different from the 1945-46's. The script says One Twenty, believe me its hard to read even close up!

I will let you know what I find out from the Packard Geeks.

~F3

gsjansen Sep 8, 2011 6:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristinaR (Post 5387838)
Hi gsjansen,

All the Bunker Hill assessor log photos have be scanned, but are still in the queue to be cataloged.
Cheers.

Christina! good to your word, i jes' happened to stumble upon these rarely seen bunker hill gems, (as well as others), today. it's not like i've been checkin' everyday or anything.................;)

Court Apartments, located at 629 Court Street, this is the northwest corner of hope and court

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00091/00091438.jpg
Source: LAPL

621 court street, north side of court street between hope and bunker hill

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00091/00091442.jpg
Source: LAPL

Looking east across N. Hope Street showing two Queen Anne Revival style homes at 212 (far left) and 210 (center), and an American Foursquare style residence at 206 (right)

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00091/00091440.jpg
Source: LAPL

Once again, thank you Christina for the heads up........(don't worry, i'll keep looking)..........

btw.....can you give me a clue as to how the catalog numbers work.....the last new ones were gpc_b27, and these are gpc_b10:???:

ChristinaR Sep 8, 2011 7:29 PM

Yup, keep searching for GPC_b10 and they'll come up as they are cataloged and uploaded. I don't recall offhand how many there are total and I am out of the library this week, but there are many many more, so keep checking!

gsjansen Sep 8, 2011 8:07 PM

:previous:

don't need to be told twice!!!!!!!!!!!


:tup:

ChristinaR Sep 8, 2011 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5402097)
tending to the garden once again...........................

an authur by the name of Martin Turnbull has written several novels that revolve around the garden of allah. on his web page he has posted the following aerial image of the complex that i had never seen before.

http://www.martinturnbull.com/wp-con...unsetariel.jpg
Source: The Garden of Allah Novels by Martin Turnbull

I could be mistaken, but I always thought this was an image of the miniature model of the complex that used to be on display inside the bank where there Garden of Allah once stood. It is definitely the same photo that was used for the cover of Sheilah Graham's book.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/ima...283155&s=books

Cheers!

gsjansen Sep 9, 2011 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristinaR (Post 5404984)
I could be mistaken, but I always thought this was an image of the miniature model of the complex that used to be on display inside the bank where there Garden of Allah once stood. It is definitely the same photo that was used for the cover of Sheilah Graham's book.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/ima...283155&s=books

Cheers!

wow! i had always heard about the model, and that it once was displayed in the bank that now sits where the garden of allah was. i wonder where the model is now..............i had no idea that the image i posted from martin turnbull's site was actually the model. now that i look at it more closely, i have to agree with you christina, this is indeed a photo of the model!

thanks so much for your educated eye in pointing this out!


very cool :cool:

gsjansen Sep 9, 2011 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentLocations (Post 5405539)
IMG]http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6202/...9dbec163a0.jpg Stan and Ollie and a Drive Through Bunker Hill by SilentEchoes57, on Flickr[/IMG]

The footage not only provides a wonderful glimpse of post-WWII Bunker
Hill, now lost to civic redevelopment, but illuminates Los Angeles
during the silent film era as well.

As I explain in my book Silent Visions, Harold Lloyd filmed scenes for
seven different movies at the intersection of 3rd and Grand, on Bunker
Hill, more scenes than at any other location in Los Angeles. It was a
popular place for Laurel and Hardy, and other Hal Roach Studio stars to
film as well. The Prelinger film drives twice by Lloyd’s intersection of
3rd and Grand, providing razor sharp images of where Lloyd and other
silent stars filmed.

You can see where several Roach silent comedies were filmed along the Prelinger film route on my blog below.

http://silentlocations.wordpress.com...h-bunker-hill/

SL! you never cease to amaze me! that stan and ollie shot at the corner of grand and 4th is astounding.

the screen cap you posted is literally taken from this exact same vantage point in 1954 when the 4th street viaduct was being slammed through the hill

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00092/00092842.jpg
Source: LAPL

gsjansen Sep 9, 2011 11:02 AM

some more of the newest crop.........(these are incredible, particularly as you rarely see homes and buildings in the north section of bunker hill)

the ethel 223 s. grand

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00091/00091463.jpg
Source: LAPL

237 n.bunker hill

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00091/00091457.jpg
Source: LAPL

the earlcliffe 231 s. bunker hill

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00091/00091465.jpg
Source: LAPL

north hope and temple

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00091/00091459.jpg
Source: LAPL

gsjansen Sep 9, 2011 11:06 AM

omg! the Lima, or is it Majestic Apartments, or is it the Rossmore Apartments?...whatever!

amazing image of 1st and hope!

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00091/00091470.jpg
Source: LAPL

gsjansen Sep 9, 2011 11:15 AM

a building that i am not familiar with, the sunny crest at 201 n. grand. intersection of court and grand.

how is it that i had never seen this building before??!!??

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00091/00091462.jpg
Source: LAPL

ChristinaR Sep 9, 2011 4:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5405576)
wow! i had always heard about the model, and that it once was displayed in the bank that now sits where the garden of allah was. i wonder where the model is now..............i had no idea that the image i posted from martin turnbull's site was actually the model. now that i look at it more closely, i have to agree with you christina, this is indeed a photo of the model!

thanks so much for your educated eye in pointing this out!


very cool :cool:

The model was actually up for auction earlier this year! It's one of those questionable L.A. stories, so proceed with caution.

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2011/0...g_for_500k.php

No clue what the resolution was on this one.

Glad you're enjoying the North Bunker Hill photos. My heart stopped when I first came across them. I think there are in the ballpark of 140 images from the Appraisal logs. The cataloger usually has time to work on photos on Fridays, and it looks like she's burning through them, so there may be more goodies posted today.

Cheers!

Fab Fifties Fan Sep 10, 2011 1:33 AM

Angels Flight revisited
 
Just grabbed this wonderful youtube video off of one of my favorite Facebook pages "Vintage Los Angeles". A great 1950's film clip of Angels Flight in its original location with neighboring buildings in tact.

I remember feeling cheated when I moved to LA in '75 and it no longer existed. I had ridden it once during a vacation, when I was 12, and had no clue that it had gone away. I am so glad its back!

Enjoy!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Yzy5OxuMnxE

If, perchance, this has already been posted here and I missed it, my apologies:D

~F3

ethereal_reality Sep 11, 2011 3:56 AM

That video is great F3!


below: The last night of service, 1969.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/380...tlastnight.jpg
MTLA archive




below: ditto 1969

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/8...t1969lastn.jpg
MTLA archive


__________

I am loving your posts SilentLocations. :) I can't wait to hear more from you.

ethereal_reality Sep 11, 2011 4:40 AM

The Queen Apartments at 529 California Street displaying an exuberant mixture of architectural styles.
This fantastic concoction was lost to the 101 Freeway.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/987...ts529calif.jpg
lapl



http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4302/...29californ.jpg
lapl


At what point did the architect decide to include silhouettes of moorish domes in the lower/middle pediment?
Did an anvil drop on his head?

___________

GaylordWilshire Sep 11, 2011 2:15 PM

:previous:

e_r: What a find--what a building. I think the architect--and I use the term loosely--was either inspired on a visit to a movie set or the builder had gotten a good deal on the salvage of one.

The Queen--which was demoted to the Princess Apartment Hotel ca. 1940--might be in this shot somewhere:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics43/00041080.jpgLAPL


Then there is this:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics43/00041084.jpgLAPL

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-J...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-e...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View

ethereal_reality Sep 11, 2011 5:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5407472)

e_r: What a find--what a building. I think the architect--and I use the term loosely--was either inspired on a visit to a movie set or the builder had gotten a good deal on the salvage of one.

LOL... perfect description!


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