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Sebisebster Jul 31, 2011 8:14 AM

The Exiles, a film by Ken Mackenzie
 
Hey guys!
I read the Malumot post on The Exiles film, and I wanted to post some captures of the film.
All info is taken from: http://www.exilesfilm.com/, the website of the movie.

There, we can read this:

'THE EXILES chronicles one night in the lives of young Native American men and women living in the Bunker Hill district of Los Angeles. Based entirely on interviews with the participants and their friends, the film follows a group of exiles — transplants from Southwest reservations — as they flirt, drink, party, fight, and dance'


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'Filmmaker Kent Mackenzie first conceived of The Exiles during the making of his short film Bunker Hill—1956 while a student at the University of Southern California. In July 1957, Mackenzie began to hang around with some of the young Indians in downtown Los Angeles. After a couple of months, he broached the subject of making a film that would present a realistic portrayal of Indian life in the community.'

Here we go.
Here are some captures of the film:

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(Can anyone name the streets? I can't)

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I guess this might be Clay Street.


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And now, some of the characters of the film:

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Finally, my curiosity took me to Youtube, and to my surprise, I could check out that a sort of trailer of the film is available:


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Enjoy!
And thanks to Malumot for his post about The Exiles!

Ninja55 Jul 31, 2011 6:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5364416)
Hey, Handsome Stranger, (and anyone else who wants), you can view the full sized Leuschner's map at this locale

Los Angeles the Wonder City 1932

enjoy

gsjansen......your my hero for the day. I've spent the last couple of years trying to find info and pics on my uncle Bert's place the Paris Inn (other than what I've already got from my dad's albums) and needless to say I'm ecstatic over this map showing the Paris Inn in it's rightful place on e. Market. Awesome. Thanks again. This is why I check the thread three times a day for info!!

Handsome Stranger Aug 1, 2011 5:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5364416)
Hey, Handsome Stranger, (and anyone else who wants), you can view the full sized Leuschner's map at this locale

Thanks gsjansen! There are a few landmarks on this map that I've never heard of, like the Hollywood Japanese Gardens, Crystal Pier Nude Sun Baths, Mesmer City, and the Home of Mentalphysics. Fun stuff!

gsjansen Aug 1, 2011 10:42 AM

:previous:

Mesmer City

from the l.a. times

There's the mysterious "Mesmer City," shown in 1924 as prosperously thriving between Culver City and Mar Vista. It turns out the detailed map was a subdivision promoter's dreamy depiction of what life could be like at homesites "in the direction of Los Angeles' growth toward the ocean."

That growth eventually arrived, but Mesmer City didn't.


it was a pipe dream of the geo a. bray co., a city adjacent to culver city.

there is not a lot of information, (at least that i can find), giving all the details about mesmer city, and it's eventual fade from memory, but there is this 1924 informational map and brochure put out by the geo a. bray co.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/maps/lg//MAP_0005.jpg
Source: LAPL Map Collection

http://jpg1.lapl.org/maps/lg//MAP_0004.jpg
Source: LAPL Map Collection

cleats Aug 1, 2011 5:40 PM

There are essays on both the Mesmer map and the Leuschner map in the recent book "Los Angeles in Maps" Unfortunately, you cannot read them on Google books but it is out there. I admit I wrote it and never could solve the riddle of the Frostonya. Looking at this website is like eating chocolate cake for me...fantastic stuff and knowledgeable folks posting.

ethereal_reality Aug 1, 2011 7:22 PM

Excellent post on 'The Exiles' Sebisebster!

ethereal_reality Aug 1, 2011 7:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 5365289)
Thanks gsjansen! There are a few landmarks on this map that I've never heard of, like the Hollywood Japanese Gardens, Crystal Pier Nude Sun Baths, Mesmer City, and the Home of Mentalphysics. Fun stuff!

The Bernheimer Japanese Gardens overlooking Hollywood.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6751/bernheinerjg.jpg
postcard from ebay

Handsome Stranger, here's a link to an earlier post on the gardens.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1088

A couple of the other places were new to me as well...like Mesmer City and Home of Mentalphysics.
Although I see the Home of Mentalphysics' arrow is pointing to the dome atop Trinity Auditorium (see below).

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/474/9thgrand.jpg
usc digital archive

This beautiful building at 9th & Grand still exists!

______________

Fab Fifties Fan Aug 1, 2011 8:18 PM

Paris Inn
 
Hey Ninja55,

Don't know if you already have this in your collection, but this postcard is currently on e-bay.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4572/parisinnpc.jpg

~F3

Fab Fifties Fan Aug 1, 2011 8:42 PM

.....and for Scott
 
Here's a cute, probably 30's, linen postcard of Silverlake Auto Court that is also on e-bay right now.

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/9307/slautocourt.jpg

~F3

Los Angeles Past Aug 1, 2011 11:46 PM

:previous:
Very cool! Thank you!

-Scott

Handsome Stranger Aug 2, 2011 12:48 AM

Out of curiosity I've got a question for all and sundry here: do you regularly read and/or participate in other websites or blogs that focus on Los Angeles? If so, what are they?

There are three or four others in my bookmarks that I look at now and then, but I don't visit them quite as often nor enjoy them as much as I do Noirish Los Angeles.

Ninja55 Aug 2, 2011 1:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Fab Fifties Fan (Post 5365740)
Hey Ninja55,

Don't know if you already have this in your collection, but this postcard is currently on e-bay.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4572/parisinnpc.jpg

~F3

Thanks FFF, I've got the original photo of the group shot, but not the rest or the post card itself. Awesome.

GaylordWilshire Aug 2, 2011 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 5365964)
Out of curiosity I've got a question for all and sundry here: do you regularly read and/or participate in other websites or blogs that focus on Los Angeles? If so, what are they?

There are three or four others in my bookmarks that I look at now and then, but I don't visit them quite as often nor enjoy them as much as I do Noirish Los Angeles.


NOT in any particular order, mind you ;)


http://berkeleysquarelosangeles.blogspot.com/

http://baldwinhillsvillageandthevill....blogspot.com/

http://socalarchhistory.blogspot.com/

http://urbandiachrony.wordpress.com/

http://laeastside.com/

http://militantangeleno.blogspot.com/

http://silentlocations.wordpress.com/

http://morethanredcars.com/?p=189

http://homesofpalosverdes.blogspot.com/

http://dearoldhollywood.blogspot.com/

http://oldhomesoflosangeles.blogspot.com/

http://www.laobserved.com/

http://www.franklinavenue.blogspot.com/

http://www.esotouric.com/


Not about L.A., but excellent models:

http://www.oldlongisland.com/

http://vanishingnewyork.blogspot.com/

gsjansen Aug 2, 2011 5:15 PM

Hey GW,

this past week i watched on TCM the 1947 Red Skelton movie Merton of the Movies. The plot centers around an aspiring movie actor named Merton who is a terrible actor, when the movie executives see how funny that Merton's over-acting is, they cast him in a comedy, but tell him that he's acting in a drama.

the movie also stars Virginia O'Brien in probably her only starring vehicle in which she doesn't sing with her trademark stone faced expression.

there is a scene when Merton 1st arrives in Los Angeles, and he is at the house of a big star. I am pretty sure that the house, and the on location shooting that took place on the street is Berkeley Square.

unfortunately i did not record it, nor can i find any images of that particular scene.

maybe you've already seen it and can comment whether or not it was indeed filmed in berkeley square.

anyway, it's scheduled to show again on September 13th at 6:am. (this time i'll record it, and see if i can snag a screen cap of the street to post here)

the movie is fun skelton fluff, and virgina o'brien is terrific in it. and as an added bonus, great noir femme fatale, Gloria Grahame, plays the silent movie star who virgina o'brien stunt doubles for in the movie.

GaylordWilshire Aug 2, 2011 8:41 PM

:previous:

gs--- Thanks for the heads up. I've caught glimpses of MoftheM a few times but never could stick with it. Even if the great Grahame is in it, I've never been much on Skelton. I tried to get it from the NYPL and was surprised that even its film archive at Lincoln Center doesn't have it-- neither does Netflix. (Not feeling much like spending $20 on a copy.) Anyway, I'll try to catch it in Sept and if it's a house on the Square will get some screen caps too for this thread and the blog. Btw there are some shots of the southwest pedestrian gate, including a few partial shots (very partial) of Hall Roach's house at #22 (plus a couple of quick distance shots of #18) in Roach's Charley Chase silent Crazy Like a Fox. One title card refers to the Roach house as "22 Mozart Square." My post on #22 on berkeleysquarelosangeles.blogspot.com will be up next Tuesday. The gate I mentioned looks like the one below....

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-J...BSqpedgate.jpgLAPL

Handsome Stranger Aug 3, 2011 12:34 AM

Nice list of sites, GaylordWilshire! And I see that at some of the blogs in your list there are links to even more blogs about Los Angeles. I'm going to enjoy scanning through the lot of them.

This afternoon I was lucky enough to have located a DVD of Merton of the Movies, and I borrowed it just long enough to make frame grabs of the scene (actually one single shot) that gsjansen mentioned. It appears to be the only location shoot in the entire film.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--...Q/Merton01.jpg
[source: DVD issued by Warner Home Entertainment]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-u...g/Merton02.jpg
[source: DVD issued by Warner Home Entertainment]

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-c...c/Merton03.jpg
[source: DVD issued by Warner Home Entertainment]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-p...k/Merton04.jpg
[source: DVD issued by Warner Home Entertainment]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-u...I/Merton05.jpg
[source: DVD issued by Warner Home Entertainment]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T...U/Merton06.jpg
[source: DVD issued by Warner Home Entertainment]

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-A...s/Merton07.jpg
[source: DVD issued by Warner Home Entertainment]

I wonder if anyone has ever attempted to compile a list of all the movies Hollywood has made about the movie business?

cleats Aug 3, 2011 1:23 AM

I look at LAObserved regularly, LAist, HiddenLA on Facebook, and VintageLA on Facebook, a lot. I do go to others and find great things about places and stories of LA. Just recently discovered noirish, recommended by a real Bunker Hill buff and get lost in a lot of these images.

cleats Aug 3, 2011 1:34 AM

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085744.jpg

Photo has several interesting angles: taken by Ansel Adams showing a billboard erected by Anne Morrow Lindbergh "a Plea for Peace" at an unidentified street corner...with the Observatory in the background
Lapl photo collection

GaylordWilshire Aug 3, 2011 1:53 AM

Well, HR, I think you just saved me $20--I wasn't sure I could wait until September to see Merton of the Movies and was about to order it from Amazon. When I saw your screen caps I looked at the houses, and while they are of similar scale, and the palms are like those of Berkeley Square--what caught my eye is that the streetlamps differ from the ones I've seen in pics of Berkeley Square. They look to me like those of the original part of Windsor Square, which also had concrete streets (the later part of Windsor Sq to the west had concrete lamps and the streets are asphalt--you can see the change in street surface on some streets, like 5th, between Plymouth and Lucerne)... and I knew that Plymouth still has long rows of palms... After then looking on Google Earth, I think this is the street. The house the actors are coming out of appears to have been replaced (would have been about 447 S. Plymouth), but the two to its north are still there. Some chimneys are lower, as many have gotten over the years; but judging by the rooflines, the lamps, and the palms, I'd say it's the west side of the 400 block of Plymouth. The street looks wider in the movie, but I think that's more to do with lenses. See what you think:


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-o...2%252520PM.jpg



https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g...0%252520PM.jpg


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b...7%252520PM.jpg
This is 425 S. Plymouth, which according to one website, is Virginia Hill's house in Bugsy--haven't checked on that though.

Edit: DVR'ed Merton on TCM this a.m. 9-14-11--fast fowarding revealed another scene of the street, with clearer shots of the two houses to the north of the house Merton goes in & out of (the one with the lions)--it's definitely Plymouth. As substantial as the house featured in the film appears--445/447 S Plymouth--it has been replaced by two MUCH less attractive houses that appear to be circa late '50s or early '60s.

GaylordWilshire Aug 3, 2011 2:07 AM

Cleats-- Re that sign-- sounds like Mrs. Lindbergh is defending Nazi aggression to me, which would be no surprise considering her husband. Anyway, looks like that intersection might be the nw corner of Vermont & Franklin. Somewhere online there are old maps that indicate the old route of El Camino Real through Los Angeles--note the bell.


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