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ethereal_reality Jul 8, 2014 6:55 PM

I found some black and white snapshots from a 1940's photo album on ebay.

Here's one:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/855/glf6.jpg

Dr. Jones Dog and Cat Hospital, 9080 Santa Monica Boulevard.

This little art deco building stands empty today.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/819/f2k4.jpg
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entrance/nice deco street numbers
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/853/ho70.jpg
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..as it appeared on ebay.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640.../834/jakx8.jpg

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ethereal_reality Jul 8, 2014 6:59 PM

Here's another...

436 Loring Avenue, circa 1940
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/853/l8ft.jpg




today
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/822/4h5t.jpg
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What architectural style is this? I think it's rather unattractive.



..as it appeared on ebay.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/820/xdvh.jpg


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srk1941 Jul 8, 2014 7:03 PM

This Wurdeman and Becket Cat and Dog Hospital is threatened with demolition...

https://www.laconservancy.org/issues...iangle-project

Did you buy this photo album on eBay? I wonder if this house on Loring is also Wurdeman and Becket?


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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6645968)


gsjansen Jul 8, 2014 7:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6645431)
The first post on the Brown Derby was back in 2009, and there have been dozens since. The gist of it is, the BD in your shot opened, facing due south at 3427 Wilshire between Mariposa & Alexandria, in 1926; in 1931 a branch opened at 3927, as seen in your second shot, in the 1930 Bilicke Building (on the site of the Harrington house at 646 S. Gramercy). This BD replaced the short-lived Hi-Hat (apparently also owned by Herbert Somborn, aka Mr. Gloria Swanson) and only lasted a year or so itself. The 3927 branch may not have lasted long, but was too early to have been any kind of "temporary" location during the move of the BD hat. Enlarged into the bookstore space to the west, 3927 became the first Perino's in 1934. The hat-shaped Derby moved half a block east to 3377, oriented to the northeast corner of Alexandria, in 1937.


An ad shows the 3427 and 3927 BDs operating at the same time:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-r...2520AM.bmp.jpgLAT Feb 29, 1932


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-K...2520AM.bmp.jpgUSCDL

A pretty Lincoln in front of the short-lived Hi-Hat...

I have to admit, I always thought that the Derby had to vacate it's original location 3427 Wilshire between Alexandria and Mariposa, due to the construction of the women's Olympic village on the site of the future Chapman Park Hotel, and thus was the reason for the BD opening up at the Gramercy Place location 3927 Wilshire.

However, this photograph dated 1932, (which I had never seen before), clearly shows what seems to be elements which are to become part of the Chapman Park hotel villas.

http://imagecache5d.art.com/Crop/cro...maxh=814&q=100

So, if the BD shared the site with the women's Olympic village, why on earth did it relocate to the ne corner of Wilshire and Alexandria? :shrug:

a photo I previously posted showing the BD at it's new location of Alexandria and Wilshire with the construction of the Chapman Park Hotel beyond at the Derby's original location.

http://waterandpower.org/1%20Histori...rown_Derby.jpg

MartinTurnbull Jul 8, 2014 8:24 PM

[QUOTE=GaylordWilshire;6645431]The first post on the Brown Derby was back in 2009, and there have been dozens since. The gist of it is, the BD in your shot opened, facing due south at 3427 Wilshire between Mariposa & Alexandria, in 1926; in 1931 a branch opened at 3927, as seen in your second shot, in the 1930 Bilicke Building (on the site of the Harrington house at 646 S. Gramercy). This BD replaced the short-lived Hi-Hat (apparently also owned by Herbert Somborn, aka Mr. Gloria Swanson) and only lasted a year or so itself. The 3927 branch may not have lasted long, but was too early to have been any kind of "temporary" location during the move of the BD hat. Enlarged into the bookstore space to the west, 3927 became the first Perino's in 1934. The hat-shaped Derby moved half a block east to 3377, oriented to the northeast corner of Alexandria, in 1937.


Thanks so much for firming up that timeline for me (and before you even had your coffee!). And on the subject of Brown Derbys, someone sent me this photo of a (rather half-hearted attempt at a) Brown Derby on the NE corner of Hollywood and Vine. Apparently, it's from the 1980s which puts it outside my area of research, but I'm still surprised I'd not come across it before.

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...IY92AHV2H6.jpg

ethereal_reality Jul 8, 2014 8:56 PM

1948
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/855/jctq.jpgebay
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/841/wu096.jpg

"Designed in South American Modern." ...if you say so.


today
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/820/1xnx.jpg
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-interesting mid-century design.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/841/l811r.jpg
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Today the Beverly-Carlton is the...Avalon Hotel, Beverly Hills.
http://www.viceroyhotelgroup.com/en/avalon
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ethereal_reality Jul 8, 2014 9:18 PM

A bit of noir.

..usherettes arrested.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/823/e2t5.jpg
ebay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320.../853/0vxah.jpg
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ethereal_reality Jul 8, 2014 10:24 PM

..simply beautiful.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/829/zuci.jpgebay
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/850/al4i.jpg

Anyone here from the Encino area? I'd love to learn more about this amazing tree.


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HossC Jul 8, 2014 11:28 PM

:previous:

It survived until 1998:

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The Encino Oak Tree, also known as the Lang Oak, was a 1,000-year-old California live oak tree, Quercus agrifolia, in the Encino section of Los Angeles, California. It was designated as a Los Angeles Historic-Cultural Monument (HCM #24) in 1963.

...

On February 7, 1998, an El Niño storm "delivered the death blow, felling the ailing tree with storm winds." As news of the tree’s demise spread, onlookers gathered, some crying and taking branches as mementos.

Wikipedia
More info can be found in articles on Big Orange Landmarks and latimes.com.

GaylordWilshire Jul 9, 2014 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6646172)


It made an appearance as the Beverly Palms when the Ricardos and Mertzes arrived in Hollywood.... We've seen it here before in that context.

Mstimc Jul 9, 2014 3:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6645968)
Here's another...

436 Loring Avenue, circa 1940
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/853/l8ft.jpg




today
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/822/4h5t.jpg
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What architectural style is this? I think it's rather unattractive.


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If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say knock-off French Provincial, given the central mansard roof and window treatment. Emphasis on the "knock-off". :yuck:

3940dxer Jul 9, 2014 5:26 AM

North end of Griffith Park, then and now
 
I'm very fond of this evocative old shot, which is described as North side of Griffith Park, 1898. I've spent many days hiking and biking around the park, and while I couldn't quite place the location at first, it seemed very familiar. So, photo in hand, I took a leisurely ride around it's northern edge, and found what I think is the same spot.

Of course, the L.A. River had a major make-over in the 20's, and the 134 and 5 freeways were built through this area. There's little to recognize now, but I think the little hills in the old photo are part of a small ridge line opposite the "Glendale Narrows Riverwalk", west of where the river makes its 90 degree turn.

I wonder who the contemplative gentleman in the photo was, and I wonder what happened to him in the years after the photo was taken.

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/GriffithPark1998.jpg
http://www.taschen.com/pages/en/catalogue/photography/all/05705/facts.los_angeles_portrait_of_a_city.htm


http://wwww.dkse.net/david/GriffithPark2014.jpg
My photo

GaylordWilshire Jul 9, 2014 1:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6645968)


436 Loring Avenue

..as it appeared on ebay.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/820/xdvh.jpg


today
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/822/4h5t.jpg
GSV

What architectural style is this? I think it's rather unattractive.


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-i...2520PM.bmp.jpgLAT June 3, 1984


Even before it was badly remodeled with the columns everyone seems to think connotes a certain status, the house looked like a small apartment house from the '70s. According to real estate information, it was built in 1940. The "Dr. Rabin" referred to was Dr. A. H. Rabin, who was president of a drug manufacturing company. I don't know when the building was built, but the company was once at 700 N. Sepulveda Blvd, El Segundo (now part of a Boeing complex):


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-o...2520AM.bmp.jpgGSV


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Originally Posted by srk1941 (Post 6645977)
Did you buy this photo album on eBay? I wonder if this house on Loring is also Wurdeman and Becket?

Digging a little, I couldn't find any connection of Wurdeman & Becket to 436 Loring. I wondered about a possible connection to the office building, but also found no connection...

ethereal_reality Jul 9, 2014 1:58 PM

:previous: srk1941, I didn't buy the photo. It's included in this album.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Phot...item20e8881a1a

Lwize Jul 9, 2014 2:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 6646872)
I wonder who the contemplative gentleman in the photo was, and I wonder what happened to him in the years after the photo was taken.

He was probably swept away in the great floods of the 1930's, prompting the encasement of the LA River in concrete.

ethereal_reality Jul 9, 2014 2:20 PM

Here's another snapshot from one of the 1940's photo albums.

Beverly Hills, 1940s
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/853/myeu.jpg
ebay

I'm curious about the buildings in the background. -Time to gas up the google-mobile. :)


..as it appeared on ebay
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/850/rqov.jpg

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ethereal_reality Jul 9, 2014 2:25 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102.../842/qagjv.jpg
ebay

reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/822/g1pq.jpg

-no address.
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ethereal_reality Jul 9, 2014 3:15 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/823/pahx1.jpg
ebay



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/855/qjia.jpg
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ethereal_reality Jul 9, 2014 4:25 PM

Santa Barbara, 1940s
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...0/829/4xxn.jpg



Unlike Encino's Lang Oak, this Moreton Bay Fig tree in Santa Barbara is thriving, with a span of just under 200 feet!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/856/93vi.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5005/...961bd6c7_b.jpg

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BifRayRock Jul 9, 2014 4:55 PM




Glenn L. Martin



1952 - Martin Elementary School 939 W. Wilshire Ave., Santa Ana
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...tin&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...tin&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...tin&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...tin&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/103172/rec/1




But why? (One hopes that those who attended Martin Elementary know the answer.)

=> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_L._Martin



Avaition pioneer Martin had some interesting SoCal connections. Some of the dates are a little hazy. It is said that by 22 years of age (1908?) Martin owned a Ford and Maxwell dealership in Santa Ana. http://www.mdairmuseum.org/history-research.html In 1909 he rented a "disused" Santa Ana Methodist Church as his first SoCal manufacturing base. (Where was the Church and any photos?) On August 1, 1909 made the first powered flight in California, 8' above the Irvine Ranch in Orange County. http://www.ocregister.com/articles/m...ine-plane.html It may have been mentioned on this thread that Martin participated in the famous 1910 Dominguez Hill Aero Meet. (Or maybe it was only Glenn Curtiss that was mentioned.)

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Even before the first air meet at Dominquez, a young auto mechanic, Glenn Martin, was at work developing his first airplane at Santa Ana. In 1909 he completed a small pusher biplane of the Curtiss style with which he taught himself to fly. After perfecting his aircraft, he embarked on an ambitious exhibition schedule over the next two years, which earned him $12,000. In May 10, 1912, he set records in a Newport Beach-Catalina Island flight. Seeing a future in the manufacture of aircraft, Martin formed his company in 1912. http://generalaviationnews.com/2011/...-air-heritage/

Read somewhere that in 1912 Martin employed another SoCal-connected aviation pioneer, Donald Douglas (who has a 1921 CD listing: David-Douglas Co., Aircraft Manfs. 421 Colyton.**) In 1915 Martin's residence was listed at 431 W. Seventh Street (LA Athletic Club) and the "factory" at 943 S. Los Angeles Street. For those with an itch regarding other aviation luminaries:
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The Martin Company provided training and experience to a remarkable number of other aviation manufacturers who later struck out on their own. William Boeing, . . . Lawrence Bell, and James S. McDonnell founded companies that bear their names. Charles Day, chief designer for Standard Aircraft in World War I, and Charles Willard, co-founder of L.W.F. Engineering in 1917, were both former Martin employees as were J.H. Kindleberger and C.A. Van Dusen, who ran North American and Brewster, respectively, during World War II. http://www.mdairmuseum.org/history-research.html

1912 (Anyone decipher the name or headline from the newspaper payload?)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...er-biplane.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...er-biplane.jpg


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In 1913, pioneering aviator Glenn L. Martin took [85 lb.]Tiny up in his biplane over Griffith Park in Los Angeles, where, at a height of 2,000 feet, she released herself from a trap seat, becoming the first woman ever to parachute from an airplane. http://www.earlyaviators.com/ebroadwi.htm
http://www.hendersondispatch.com/arc...86231df62d.jpghttp://www.hendersondispatch.com/arc...86231df62d.jpg



1913 (Martin and James H. Irvine)
http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocre...iv1dkg0r.1.jpghttp://images.onset.freedom.com/ocre...iv1dkg0r.1.jpg


1915 "A Girl of Yesterday" with Mary Pickford and Glenn L. Martin (No surviving negative)
http://images.wisconsinhistory.org/7...07000102-l.jpghttp://images.wisconsinhistory.org/7...07000102-l.jpg


http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/mobile/images/1915.jpghttp://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/mobile/images/1915.jpg



Davis-Douglas Co. 1921 headquarters
**421-427 Colyton Street, LA
http://s.lnimg.com/photo/poster_768/...51c804a636.jpg http://s.lnimg.com/photo/poster_768/...51c804a636.jpg






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